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ok i no this is been talked to death about. i am talking abou the new HTC. when can we expect it to be on o2 i have talk to o2 customer serivces and lets faceit they arent exactly informed about the subject. i asked em and they told me that i should expect the release of the XDAs! what dumb ppl. okay i found it halirious but thats not the point i would like to know when i can expect this machine! and when i can get my hands on 1!
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i have talk to o2 customer serivces and lets faceit they arent exactly informed about the subject. i asked em and they told me that i should expect the release of the XDAs!
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When the 2i came out I had the same exact thing. I did speak to one guy who was knowledgable but this was only because he wanted one as well. Everyone else refused to accept that it was even coming out at all, and refused to budge from their opinion was that the 2s was the highest I could go.
If the standard pattern is to be used here, I would reckon you'll see the Universal around Xmas / New Year and maybe pushing into Spring. I certainly hope so, cos in Janurary I'm due to contract renewal and I'll be hankering after one myself!!! The jump from 2i to Universal is more than that I did from XDA to XDA2. I can't wait!
Ant
but...
i get a contract renewal in august is it possible for me to get the phone even after i have contract renewed?!
AFAIK the contract will run after august without "renewal". And you can upgrade your phone anytime after. But be aware that as soon as you do you are locked into a further 12 months and won't be able to upgrade again until those 12 months are up.
Hope thats what you meant.
Anyone else order from Expansys?
I bought one from Devicewire.co.uk, and it is on its way, due here tomorrow,
BUT then I have this Expansys order....
The happily took my bank transfer....(so they have my money since December) told me multiple dates for shipping... have pushed and pushed and came up with excuses of why they havent sent it to me even when thay had it IN stock...
anyway, now i see that if i look at my order on their website it says 2 days until they get it, BUT on their website if you just look at the touch cruise product page it says 1 day...
WTF???
I pre-ordered and prepaid. some people already got the phone from Expansys, the came up with excuses for their mess-ups as to why i didnt get mine... these people are obviously not good to do business with.
Anyone know, by whatever means, if Expansys.se will actually have the Touch Cruise tomorrow? (or are their dates being pushed to Feb like everyone else, and they are just too chicken sh#t to admit it?)
bad business, bad bad business Expansys
Devicewire.co.uk is the best!!!
I've just got off the phone from O2 after ordering my XDA Orbit 2 on their new tariff. I am a little sceptical however. I called them yesterday and they said that the phone was released today, the guy I spoke to was adamant about this. So I called up this morning and spoke to a nice lady. She told me that the screen said the phone was not released until the end of February but thought that was wrong and was sure it was today and went to check with someone.
She came back and told me it was available and the original Orbit was not being sold and all orders would be dispatched as the Orbit 2. I was given a choice of whether I wanted it with or without co-pilot, I went without and was told the cost was £19.99 on an Online 35 18 month contract or free with the Online 45 18 month contract. Still dubious whether I would get the original Orbit, she said she's go and check with a manager and call me back. Got a call back 5 minutes later to confirm it will definitely be the Orbit 2 so I placed my order.
Still wonder which I'll get, anyone else placed an order?
ohh a big mistake.....!!!!
I just got told to call back on Monday.
Apparently Mine's on its way too.
I made sure they said it was the Orbit 2, so should be with me on Monday/Tuesday!
gareh said:
Apparently Mine's on its way too.
I made sure they said it was the Orbit 2, so should be with me on Monday/Tuesday!
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whats the number you people are calling? I was SAID on monday
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whats the number you people are calling? I was SAID on monday
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O2 Upgrades... 08706003009 Option2, Option2, Option2.
Ive just been told its out on the 31st February . Seems as though no-one really knows whats going on but thats just ridiculous. at least pick a date that exhists
woohoo!
Just ordered mine (by dialing 202 on my existing o2 phone) - will be delivered by DHL in 1-2 working days (so Monday or Tuesday next week)
I triple checked it was the Orbit 2 (rather than Orbit 1)
Just for info the deal I managed to get was:
Free phone
18 month contract
600 x-network minutes
500 texts
unlimited internet
without the satnav software (not sure how much extra that would have been)
£25/month (is the £35 tariff but went through the retentions team who knocked it down).
this is the best by far... does it mean, we newer gona get it?!
wow
how did you manage that?!
25/month with the new tariff??
sounds amazing
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how did you manage that?!
25/month with the new tariff??
sounds amazing
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Phoned up a few weeks ago asking for a PAC code. They offered me £15 off my current tariff (£35) if I also took the £7.50 data bolt-on taking it to £27.50. I said yes but wanted to wait for the Orbit 2 and he made a note on the system. So when I called again today they offered me the £35 tariff which now includes a free bolt-on. Told them about the previous offer which was still on their system so they offered my £10 off the new tarrif.
Might just have been lucky, but means they are willing/able to go down that much if you push them.
I spoke to Martin Peers ex 70682 in the retentions team initially. Not sure if dropping names and mentioning offers that other people have got helps but it might be worth a try.
just rang to order. there in stock, but the upgrade "shop" isnt working, need to call back later.
I N S T O C K ! ! !
i can confirm; they have it, just push them.
first i been told, it`s coming out on the 31 feb. i was laughing... quick recheck and i got the same tariff as nick666, but 35pm. i am a select customer, but couldn`t get any better
waiting for monday waiting for monday waiting for monday
thanks nick666
Guys!!! Please tell me what you said!!!! I called them 3 times. Here are my experiences;
1. Called upgrades. Not out till end of Feb sorry, can't help.
2. Called new buyers. Out on Monday (this was reconnaissance work to see if they had it). As it happens I want good upgrade offers!
3. Called the retentaion dept and said I wanted to leave. I said the I know for a fact that other people have bought the Orbit 2 and I had been denied. The guy sounded bemused and said, well let me check....end of Feb. I said but it's on your website under the business dept. He said ohhhh yes I'm afraid that's a diff. dept and only available for business users because it's a business phone. He did say they would knock £20 off my existing £30p/m tarriff however! But no phone!!!! How can I blag it? Normally it's 3rd time lucky!
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Guys!!! Please tell me what you said!!!! I called them 3 times. Here are my experiences;
1. Called upgrades. Not out till end of Feb sorry, can't help.
2. Called new buyers. Out on Monday (this was reconnaissance work to see if they had it). As it happens I want good upgrade offers!
3. Called the retentaion dept and said I wanted to leave. I said the I know for a fact that other people have bought the Orbit 2 and I had been denied. The guy sounded bemused and said, well let me check....end of Feb. I said but it's on your website under the business dept. He said ohhhh yes I'm afraid that's a diff. dept and only available for business users because it's a business phone. He did say they would knock £20 off my existing £30p/m tarriff however! But no phone!!!! How can I blag it? Normally it's 3rd time lucky!
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Sounds like the message hasn't trickled through to all the departments yet - so sounds like you've just been unlucky!!
When I ordered today, it was through the upgrade number, but because I mentioned that I'd already spoken to the retention team they put me through to them. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the girl I spoke to, but was definitely the retention team. She did take a while when checking if they were available so might not be on the screens yet?
Damn O2, why does it have to be so difficult?! I did speak to the retention team and I was on hold for 3 mins while he went to find out! Should I try again - what if I get the same guy? How embarrasing!!
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ohh a big mistake.....!!!!
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One more member for the petition. Hurray!!!!!!!
I called them back, systems are still down.
She first said they dont have them in stock, end of feb is release date. I told her no, its out today and they do have stock. she said "erm...hold on.....*types*....oh yes its out later today" lololool.
Systems still down though, have to call back again
Sounds like a lot of angst. I think I'll just wait until the 31st of Feb
just called upgrades told it was in stock but i wasn't eligible till 6th so i wanted the cancel that contract and take out a new one, he put me through to sales, was told not in stock till 31st feb, told him i was told by two people(including a manager) it was out today, started shouting at me saying if they had it why would they want stop people from buying it or something, wouldn't let me speak and then the w****r hung up on me . all i said was i was told it was out today, that was the last thing i said. Gonna ring upgrades back on the 6th because so far all the representatives there have been excellent. was offered £35pm, 400mins, 1000txts, 12 Month Contract and the phone for £39.99 and that was without haggling.
Google announced that they're making unlocked developer phones available. No sim lock, unlocked bootloader and all that.
http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html
$399 + $25 dev registration fee, with free shipping.
Oh, and check out the back cover
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/images/placeholders/dev3.jpg
Awesome! I am assuming Google will be doing separate OTA updates for the dev phones. That will be nice to have as well for existing rooted phones.
About time!
You can use any SIM in the device and can flash custom Android builds that will work with the unlocked bootloader. Unlike the bootloader on retail devices, the bootloader on the Android Dev Phone 1 does not enforce signed system images.
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Are they referring to the htc bootloader?
Is it possible to extract the data from these phones and use them on non-dev phones? Or am I asking a stupid question?
Yes. Per swetland on freenode/#android, it has the htc engineering bootloader.
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Is it possible to extract the data from these phones and use them on non-dev phones? Or am I asking a stupid question?
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Possibly.. we'll have to wait and see
I’d be really interested in where they’ll ship the handsets from…
The price is good, but if they ship it from the US, I’d have to pay VAT (19%), import taxes and shipping which would result in the package being 100$+ more expensive :-/
If they'd be able to ship them from inside the EU on the other hand, I'd immediately order one
Can I order one. I'm from Vietnam.
Who have G1 dev version please write a review, I want to know about battery life
at last what i was Emailing on Daily Basis.
Infact i was insisting them to release Developer Edition of Firmware
But they have come with Device
this is sweet...im gonna try to sell my current g1 and buy the dev one.
I buy the cover from a struggling dev
I'd give 25$ +shipping for that back cover with that funky bullsh1t on the back, looks 'leet
and donate sumthin to a dev, id also offer mine to replace...
its kinda just a joke but if anybody wants to take me up on it when they get one of these badboys, with the recent nand dump, we can now just dump the bootloader on the make nicenice with the devs phone and repalce our stock boot with it and whammo, RUN ANYTHING? and flash it to the handset, debian, ubuntu mobile, WM, even custom android could I say "distrubutions?
wholly open source tmobile , BatMan... If Im wrong please let me know but this seems like goog or andy or whomever is sympathetic to the plight of the enslaved tmobile G1s
bhang
This is in google's best interest. They want android to be a success, and in order to do that, atleast the most effective way to do that, is to give devolpers the most open of a door as possible to the system.
The big stick-in-the-mud as far as root goes has always been t-mobile. telcoms don't want people to have full control of their device.
The only thing surprising about this to me is that they didn't introduce the g1 with this edition as well.
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Well I can safely say, t-mobile employees aren't trained well enough, and they basically said that there is no way to updrade or downgrade firmware's, and rc 30 was "perfect", litterally.
well....not all t-mobile employees...
im a t-mobile employee, and from my experiences since september 23, have been that most of the people around me know their way around the device from a retail consumer standpoint. you cant assume that general customer care or even tier 1 tech support knows as much as the people that read/post here.
just looking out for my collegues....
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Well I can safely say, t-mobile employees aren't trained well enough, and they basically said that there is no way to updrade or downgrade firmware's, and rc 30 was "perfect", litterally.
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well, I don't fully agree. There are a number of employees that should be deemed legally retarded, but just because they are a t-mobile employee doesnt mean they should know how to work the phone. From a t-mobile standpoint, the rc-30 is the perfect (for now) as its a non-root that has no known security holes, htc I doubt would care one way or the other, and google would probably prefer completely open hardware (see the dev phones).
What would you want to know from a t-mobile employee about this phone that they can't answer?
You have to remeber, they don't design the phone, they don't hack the phone, they just sell airtime. So they have no reason to know alot of things that we find out, since they don't attempt to.
That is true I work in cs for VZW, I should probably have rephrased that the tier 2 tech ppl, especially the g1 support line have no clue how to work the g1. And the PDA/Smartphone tier 2 ppl say it's "perfect", and also have no clue how to work it, either. I called litterally everyone I could find a contact for to find a way to downgrade from RC30. HTC got mad and gave the # for cs at t-mobile. Google sent me to google.com/support. G1 suport sent me to HTC and PDA/Smartphone support, or told me they had no clue.
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That is true I work in cs for VZW, I should probably have rephrased that the tier 2 tech ppl, especially the g1 support line have no clue how to work the g1. And the PDA/Smartphone tier 2 ppl say it's "perfect", and also have no clue how to work it, either. I called litterally everyone I could find a contact for to find a way to downgrade from RC30. HTC got mad and gave the # for cs at t-mobile. Google sent me to google.com/support. G1 suport sent me to HTC and PDA/Smartphone support, or told me they had no clue.
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So you have one small problem... Tell me something since you say you work cs at VZW... do you think anyone at your company would tell you how even if you could? Do you really think they would handle any support about how to upgrade or downgrade software on any of their smartphones? Last I checked VZW was the worst when it comes to smart phones by locking out GPS and other functions unless you pay, and only allowing their phones on the network.
So far when I have called up I have got nothing but good results. Even if the problem couldn't be completely fixed over the phone they have always compensated me (I got about 40 dollars off my next bill)
And yea their CS department can't do much on the tech side... but I have gotten to Tier 3 numerous times on other devices and always been satisfied.
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So you have one small problem... Tell me something since you say you work cs at VZW... do you think anyone at your company would tell you how even if you could? Do you really think they would handle any support about how to upgrade or downgrade software on any of their smartphones? Last I checked VZW was the worst when it comes to smart phones by locking out GPS and other functions unless you pay, and only allowing their phones on the network.
So far when I have called up I have got nothing but good results. Even if the problem couldn't be completely fixed over the phone they have always compensated me (I got about 40 dollars off my next bill)
And yea their CS department can't do much on the tech side... but I have gotten to Tier 3 numerous times on other devices and always been satisfied.
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I don't care, I tell ppl what they need to hear not what they want to hear, yes I tell them things that aren't official. And I tell them google is their friend. Since I'm flex pay, they dn't care about keeping me there, I've been on my own acct since the G1 came out, that's the whole reason I switched from the Iphone. That thing about the GPS is only true on regular phones, the PDA/Smartphones/Blackberry's are a whole diff story. I'm also quitting that job soon, due to me being tired of screwing ppl oer the phone.
Woo! I've ordered my dev phone. Now I need to get rid of my G1. Luckily I can still take it back to t-mob for a refund (tomorrow is the last day though). I thought I would offer it to you guys first though. It's unlocked and has modified RC30 of course. I'll let it go for $400, including free shipping. If no-one says they want it by tomorrow at noon, it's going back to t-mobile. I'll even sign it if you want
Update: taken back to the t-mobile store. got a full refund, no restocking fee or anything. So I'll only be out about $20-25 for the dev phone.. got $430 back for the G1 and $455 for the dev phone ($400 + $25 market fee + $30 tax)
does anybody know if the credit card address can be different from the shipping address?
I'd love to be able to use the reasonable "free" shipping to the US and have a friend bring it over on his next visit to germany
There was a rumor going around the Radioshack might be giving the inspires out early - can anyone confirm a case of this? I had called two stores and they both said no, however if someone can confirm a positive on this - I will keep calling!
The stores were given strict instructions not to. Plus many of them have likely not received their stock yet.
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The stores were given strict instructions not to. Plus many of them have likely not received their stock yet.
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Thanks, this is what I thought. When I reserved mine the guy said that the system won't even allow them to sell them until Sunday... but then again on various message boards there were people saying the Radioshack sales rep that they pre-ordered their phone with said they would call them if they got them early. If the sales reps are unsure of information, they should just not say anything.
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If the sales reps are unsure of information, they should just not say anything.
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Keep in mind that a Radio Shack employee isn't much higher on the ladder than a McDonald's employee. So you can't expect much common sense from them. lol
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Keep in mind that a Radio Shack employee isn't much higher on the ladder than a McDonald's employee. So you can't expect much common sense from them. lol
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Well, maybe a little higher than McD's employee... but I haven't been inside McD's in about 12 years.
My Radioshack guy was way to "YEAH BRO, TOttalLy bro! Sick Phone Bro!!" for my taste. I'm not really a personable shopper... I kinda want to get in, take care of business and get out while in a store.
I actually just came from a radioshack after calling the store and she told me I could buy one...I was like are u sure?? She said yeah ..come over...I rushed over there to talk to her, she went back to get it and give it to me and her manager saw her...and said no! What a **** lol...anyways she atleast opened the box and let me play with it for awhile...thing is sexy! Feels so solid..camera is awesome ...and btw everyone *****ing about the battery cover being tough to come off is either a like girl or a retard...got it off in no time...can't wait till Sunday now! Ima pick one up first thing
Oh btw it booted up super fast, and asphalt 5 HD installed
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man I was just in radio shack today and they wouldn't let me pre order - they said they'll only have 4 left after the pre orders so I'd better be there when they open on sunday if I want one.
Went in my local Radio Shack yesterday, and they told me the pre order deadline was on Wednesday. Anyhow, they called me today and have one with my name on it for Sunday morning pick up. I doubt if these people will let one go early.
I also pre-ordered from RS and have been trying to get them to give it to me early, lol. When I pre-ordered on the 8th, guy said they were getting it in on the 10th and I could pick it up then!
So I went back on the 10th and unfortunately there was a different guy working and he refused to give it to me. Bah! I think it depends on the person there, some people seem to be more/less knowledgeable that others.
That being said, just heard Costco has them now and are being sold. I'm going over soon and see if they sell them off-contract. If not, then I'll swing by RS again and see who's working tonight, lol. Worth a try.
Looks like the only chance I have to get this a little early is to drop by RS before closing on Sat night, and hope they're cool enough to let me walk out with it...
I don't know why ATT is making such a big deal about the 13th release date. If a store has in stock, who cares!
Mine opens at 10...guess i'll go try my luck
I tried to get mine today but no luck. I even said that I'm flying for business and won't be able to make it tomorrow, but still.
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I tried with no luck. Radioshack has their sku locked so it won't even ring up. Very disappointing and a waste of a drive. Oh well 1030 tomorrow isn't too far off...
Called my radio shack today and no luck either. Was told they couldnt release them until tomorrow, and that they hadnt even got them in yet, truck was supposed to come later today.
WHERE IS THIS SURVEY ON THE RECEIPT? I can't find it anywhere - I think it might have been cut off? Do you enter your order information on the online survey site? If so, can someone please post the URL to the survey? Would be much appreciated, thanks!
I went in today and bribed the Guy to sell me one and he finally caved and went to ring me up....only to find out the sku wasn't recognized and it was literally impossible to buy guess I will be there bright and early. On a side note I also went in to att to ask about the price off contract as I heard it was 399 at corporate stores only for them to rudely tell me that because there wasn't a price tag yet that they couldn't tell me. Wtf att?? That kind of bull**** is probably why I will still buy at radio shack even if att is cheaper.
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Got mine today from Radio Shack. Got to know the tricks. I was buying outright so that may have been the difference. He rang me up with 481.49 in gift cards. He will use those gift cards to ring the actual phone tomorrow. I waled out with a phone and was happy. I do have to make a return trip to get my real receipt. Radio Shack is supposedly $50 higher than COR stores on an outright purchase. I had a Otterbox Defender IP4 that I was given from there for Christmas. He took that back which netted my price down to about the same as the COR stores. If I did not have the freebie $50 off, I would have just waited to get it at a COR.
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I went in today and bribed the Guy to sell me one and he finally caved and went to ring me up....only to find out the sku wasn't recognized and it was literally impossible to buy guess I will be there bright and early.
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Haha, I considered that also, slipping the guy a $20... but if the sku won't even take, then I guess I'll just have to wait until Sunday morning.
BTW, I was looking at my pre-sale receipt and it does not mention the 2/13 release date at all - it only says they'll hold it for 3 days after getting it in stock. I suppose if you wanted to be a giant PITA, you could make a fuss out of it, but whatever... I'll just wait.