What really makes a ROM fast? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi Guys,
Ever since I got my Fuze I've been flashing ROMs left and right. I've tried almost all of them, and I've become curious about what really makes the Cooked ROMs faster? What I've found so far is that the pagepool is supposed to make quite a difference, but I was wondering if there were any other factors.
Thanks

I would be curious about that two

I would guess that more registry tweaks. Also less software running in the background.

I was wondering the same thing but how does another ROM versus the stock ATT ROM? Is there that much of a difference?
I dont know if its worth the whole hard reset to flash another ROM from my stock ATT without the bloatware. Is it worth going to the ROMeO rom?
Also, how about the neccessory programs like Opera or IE or the settings of the phone?
Sorry for so many questions...

hipertec said:
I was wondering the same thing but how does another ROM versus the stock ATT ROM? Is there that much of a difference?
I dont know if its worth the whole hard reset to flash another ROM from my stock ATT without the bloatware. Is it worth going to the ROMeO rom?
Also, how about the neccessory programs like Opera or IE or the settings of the phone?
Sorry for so many questions...
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It really really REALLY is worth it. I mean its so much faster its ridiculous. Looking back, I can't even believe I put up with the stock AT&T ROM. ROMeOS so far is the fastest I've used, but NATF 2.2 is the one I've used with the least errors or problems. Right now I would recommend the stable build of ROMeOS, even though it is quite old, I've had some problems with the newer ones.

djcaston said:
It really really REALLY is worth it. I mean its so much faster its ridiculous. Looking back, I can't even believe I put up with the stock AT&T ROM. ROMeOS so far is the fastest I've used, but NATF 2.2 is the one I've used with the least errors or problems. Right now I would recommend the stable build of ROMeOS, even though it is quite old, I've had some problems with the newer ones.
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thanks for the feedback. can you recommend the version of the ROMeOS or the NATF ROM for the Fuze?
Which one is better for a newbie and I do like some of the ATT programs like quickgps, youtube, etc.

hipertec said:
thanks for the feedback. can you recommend the version of the ROMeOS or the NATF ROM for the Fuze?
Which one is better for a newbie and I do like some of the ATT programs like quickgps, youtube, etc.
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I'm running ROMeOS 1.51 right now. I highly recommend it. It's light-weight, fast, stable, and no-hassle.

after searching the ROMeOS ROM 1.51 there are two versions...1 for the FUZE and one for the Raphael.
I have the Fuze but read that its not too stable. For the people that have the ATT Fuze, which one are you using?

thanks for the answers maybe i will flash and do a ROMeOS, but on a stock At&t Rom how much does eliminating the bloatware help as far as speed

hipertec said:
after searching the ROMeOS ROM 1.51 there are two versions...1 for the FUZE and one for the Raphael.
I have the Fuze but read that its not too stable. For the people that have the ATT Fuze, which one are you using?
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The Raphael version of ROMeOS works just fine on the Fuze. 1.50.5/1.51 works great! Just remember to get the Fuze keyboard CAB

I still have the same question as the OP.
Someone posted registry edits and less software running.
Ok, well I can do registry edits easily on stock rom.
As far as less software running. What software exactly? Just leaving software out of the base install isn't going to speed anything else, it'll just save some device storage.
My VZW TP boots up and doesn't have any programs running. I see some services certainly are running, but I'd figure those are necessary to the OS.
So what exactly does a cooked ROM to do make the device faster?

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Whose ROM are you using and why?

SORRY I LEFT OUT Q-MOBILE! If you're using it or another unlisted custom ROM, just choose "other" and then post below to specify which ROM you're using.
In fact, even if you choose a specific "chef," please specify WHICH version/variation you're using and WHY.
I'm currently on Dutty #6 - tried #7, but I didn't find it quite as good. Waiting for 8! I might try other people's ROMs at some point, but that's partly why I asked this question - I want to know whose ROMs are most popular and why. Fast? Stable? Clean? Useful?
Dutty's Rom
I am using Dutty's Tilt Rom...uh on my tilt. It seems very stable and I have a bunch of apps running. It's been about 2 weeks and so far so good.
The only problem with loading one of dutty's rom's is that he never sleeps so you get addicted to flashing your Kaiser.: eek:
jollyroger973 said:
I am using Dutty's Tilt Rom...uh on my tilt. It seems very stable and I have a bunch of apps running. It's been about 2 weeks and so far so good.
The only problem with loading one of dutty's rom's is that he never sleeps so you get addicted to flashing your Kaiser.: eek:
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I've got to agree with you... I'm addicted now. But which version are you using?
I'm using Dutty's latest No. 7. For me, his ROMs have been very stable and fast.
XDA Live v1.2. I like the design goal of maximizing storage space and only installing what I want. It's almost like cooking my own rom, but much easier.
I'm using Dutty's No. 6 Lite HTC ROM.
I always want to have a clean, fast and stable ROM. I was running CUSTEL v2.1 first, but decided to turn to Dutty's ROMs because he has LOTS of updates! (I like flashing )
Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll! I looks like an interesting ROM.
johanromijn said:
Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll!
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Dangit - won't let me change it. I just noticed that myself. I guess people will have to choose "other" and type it in. I'd hate to start the poll over. :-/ Can a mod step in and help out?
Sorry Q!!!
Dutty's ATT touchflow ROM.
Full featured, has many of the extras already built in, minus that AT&T bloat crap. It runs very well for me.
drokkon said:
Dangit - won't let me change it. I just noticed that myself. I guess people will have to choose "other" and type it in. I'd hate to start the poll over. :-/ Can a mod step in and help out?
Sorry Q!!!
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No problem, besides...having just posted it last night the adoption rate would take a while anyway--and thats assuming people like it.
Was using Dutty's Tilt-Touchflo Beta but I ran into some issues and now I'm trying out Q's. Looks good so far, fast, stable.
XDA-Live 1.2 for me. It's very stable, everything works like it's supposed to, and I like how streamlined and fast it is. I wanted an ATT Tilt specific ROM, and of those choices, this one works the smoothest. I like to be able to customize what apps are on there too.
johanromijn said:
Maybe (if possible) you should add Q-Mobile ROM to the poll! I looks like an interesting ROM.
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Agreed. This is my current cooked ROM of choice after using 5 superb ROMS. Check it out. Simple, lightweight, fast and stable (for at least a full day of use)
Hat's off to all the chefs!
Currently using Dutty Touchflo 2 final non tilt edition on my tilt..... its the best for me till now... gave the no. 6 touchflo rom a try, but it was severely crippling my Tilt with random occasional freezing.... I am very happy with Touchflo 2.... its uber-fast and I simply love its freaky-fast responsiveness.....
i am using Helmi_C since day one, tried different ROM but i ended up going back, it's old, but it's quick, fast and big storage! most of all, it's quite stable and no problem whatsoever!
jakontil said:
i am using Helmi_C since day one, tried different ROM but i ended up going back, it's old, but it's quick, fast and big storage! most of all, it's quite stable and no problem whatsoever!
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I should have agreed with you a few weeks ago. Helmi_c had a very nice and stable ROM for a long time.
I've used Dutty's ROMs and CUSTEL ROMS but I still think Helmi_C had the best ROM for a long time.
Today I flashed Q-Mobile 1.0 ROM and I gives me the "Helmi_C" feeling!
It's clean, fast and seems to be stable! I think I'll stick with this one. (At least for a couple of days )
XDA Live 1.2
So far so good with this ROM. I didn't want to screw around with a non-at&t variant because I'm a noob. I loaded some SPB software and iGO for GPS and it's running great. There's loads of storage available since the ROM is smaller.
As far as stability goes, it works well enough when I reset every couple of days. Sometimes there are random freezes when it is unresponsive but these have gone down a bit since I figured out installing everything to the device works best. I had one SOD a couple nights ago when screwing around with finger-friendly friends but only that once. For now I am just going to use the stock contact supplemented with SPB contacts on Today.
The reason I plan on sticking with this ROM is that I figure Kyphur has a good chance of getting it completely stable easier than a ROM with a bunch of programs. It's already blazing fast and the radio version works well for me so far.
Q-Mobile 1.0 here - I've tried every rom, and each has its own strengths and weaknesses. Q-Mobile just seems to fit nicely in with what I expect the device to do, and how I think it should look. Fast, stable, no bugs that I've found, and a nice set of default apps.
I hate to reply to this one since it should be up to you to read up on it and try it out. But then again you want instant gratification so here DUTTY's rom no.6 or later. Why? Because no one else has put forth more time and effort into releasing these roms than he has and not to leave out his beta tester community too.
I'm not sure what it is, but I got that weird freezing on every rom I tried out. Right now, I'm using Alex cook your own rom and that is causing freezing, too. Any roms out there that don't have that freezing problem? I think its a normal thing cause the base rom.

I wish I can get touchflo this fast on the fuze!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WA-DdszBo0&feature=related
I know its the HD touchflo and its on the X1 but damn this runs fast. Is it the device thats doing this or the manila HD build? I know I have seen someone working on a port of HD Manila to run on VGA but the current built is very buggy and there has been very little updates on a more stable version. Out of the box, the manila runs pretty good on the fuze but as soon as you ad in some tweaks such as the original touch pro theme, it slows down big time. I have applied every tweak I know to improve touchflo 3d performance but its still not fast enough.
here the musicplayer starts in 3 seconds! and the pictures in 1 second and i have more than 2 gb of music
Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
is the only way to get the touch HD touchflo on the raphael by flashing another rom?
If you flash the roms, will you lose all the software that comes with the phone? Such as pocket office? That's my only concern--if I flash ROMs, I want to be able to keep Pocket Word and Excel and what not.
Thanks.
99% of ROMs keep Office inside with only extreme "Light" ROMs removing it(the description will state if it doesn't). The things that will be missing on a cooked ROM is the hundreds of useless apps and demos designed by your provider to part you from your cash. Without them, your phone will run a lot lighter and faster.
I'd suggest flash Hard SPL and then go try every ROM you like the look of! Every single one will be faster than the factory one.
mine seems as fast, or faster (ok, not "faster")
I'm using the RRE ROM, and it's the fastest I've used. The rotation is near instant on it.
why does the sprint rom run better then romeos on the fuze? it has almost 130 mbs free for program
Mine runs just as fast as in the video. I have customized manila, have tons of apps installed, etc. I am using romeos 1.40. Try flashing a rom that didnt come from your service provider, you should see an improvement too
AllTheWay said:
Mine seems to run that fast. What ROM are you using?
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hey,
i dont have a custom rom yet! all original
customized tf3d with the 3 extra tabs, did some registrytweaks for it runs smooth and very fast
i was thinking all the people is complaining about the speed of the TP but mine is really fast original what speed am i going to expect when i flash a custom rom :|
Is there a way to get a similar touchflo 3d for the touch pro? I especially like that you can customize tabs. Anyway?
My rom from NATF works just as fast or faster
NATF's ROM is very slow for me, I don't know why. I am going to look into flashing something else tomorrow. Looks like ROMeOS might have v. 1.50 by then
Yea, I may flash to another ROM. I just noticed that "out of the box" the sprint version is way faster than at&t (stock rom) Even after you bypass the bloat in at&t ROM. Thx for info guys.
yeah the sprint rom has tons of free memory i was shocked and when you end all programs it doesnt seem to leak it always goes back to like 32 pct used
but i like my fuze once i flashed it. no complaints

Which ROM and Radio? Opinions please

Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
legend0fthefall said:
Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
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Every radio seems to be different for everyone.
I, personally, like the Blackstone radios the best because they seem to give me better call quality than any other radio I've used, and I'm in an Edge only area.
LOTS of people seemed to like the 1.12 leaked AT&T radio, and quite a few people are using the official AT&T update 1.14 radio.
As far as a ROM, try to show her both TF3D and Titanium. Some people like WM6.5 (I'm one of them), while others hate it and prefer WM6.1.
Da_G has a bare-bones version of both. If you do the WM6.1 version, you'll have to install ALL of the HTC cabs yourself if you want TouchFlo and TF3D (Manila).
If you want WM6.5, I've been running RRE v6.3 and its very fast and stable. EnergyROM is also a good series, both 6.5 and 6.1.
So there's a lot of variables you need to figure out before you pick one to flash.
EDIT: Also, after flashing a ROM, remember to hard reset when you get to the "tap the screen..." prompt, this will help eliminate weird bugs that may popup.
I have very little experience with flashed roms and radios so far, so i won't comment on the radio, but for the rom, it sounds from whate everyone is suggesting for newbies go for the EnergyRom 2.0 WWE FINAL rom
use the Da_G basic roms then. just search around a bit.
don't use energyRom for this... they're made to be fast and tend to be slightly unstable.. if you're not a power user, it doesn't do you any good.

new to fuze, have rom questions...

i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
I'm just going to say that you need to find the answers to your own questions.
Start here.
Rick Chase said:
i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
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Welcome to forums
Energy ROM is great!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
im still iffy on going to a 6.5 rom cause i guess its still a beta version on winmo (i think) so i was more thinkin on 6.1, i dont need newest just something different from stock but stable as well.
i was lookin at this list (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs) and noticed energyrom 2.0 build 41609 was the newest but the thread link doesnt work.
i clicked the energyrom 1.0 build 32609 thread link and it brought me to a thread for energyrom 1.0 build 41609.....is that the same as energyrom 2.0 build 41609?
i also looked around and noticed the radio is untouched with just a rom flash so ill leave that alone for now. thank you for showing me how to use google anyway.
I am using 6.5 EnergyROM. It's very stable. Try it. The radio in my signature really works well in Northern California.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
aight, i think i will. thanks again for the info.
i flashed the rom to the energy 6.5 rom and am pretty amazed at people are willing to do for free. now ive only messed with it for about an hour but am loving it.
the only thing im worried about is how high the memory usage will go and how the battery life is affected..

User opinion for the best rom for Verizon's HTC TP2

I receive my replacement TP2 tomorrow for Verizon's network. Just wondering what the Verizon TP2 users feel is the best/stable rom. I know everyone's opinion is different, but I'll go with the majority for my TP2. Thanks in advance for your comments.
just be sure not to use one from the GSM forum (this one)
Use the Rhodium CDMA section
I'm also interested in this.
I want to try a rom, but only one that is stable as if it came officially and fast smooth UI too of course. But I've no idea which one would fit the bill. Same I think as the OP is looking for.
It'd be nice to have a stock 6.5 os rom to try and then it'd be neat to have another with added UI manilla or whatever that is or whatever HTC has done to their UI. Also a rom with the Sense UI on it would rock. I'd even like to try that.
I've been using SSK 3.0 for the past 3 or 4 days, and it's fast, reliable, has sense ui, and hasn't had a single problem so far.
I'd reccommend it on the Verizon tp2.
Just make sure you get the Verizon keyboard fix cab, also.
Does the SSK have the MMS issue like the Juicy rom??
Well, I'm using mine on Sprint, and I've no issues in or out with mms.
I actually just got one right after I read that lol
defiantone said:
I receive my replacement TP2 tomorrow for Verizon's network. Just wondering what the Verizon TP2 users feel is the best/stable rom. I know everyone's opinion is different, but I'll go with the majority for my TP2. Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Im using SSK 3.0. He is making an update to his rom for this weekend. It has been working great. He has added some new apps and utilities to the WinMo 6.5 Rom. I like it and will probably stick with his roms. Ive used them through the TP and TP2.
I use both Mighty Roms and Energy Roms and they both work great.
deviantirish said:
Im using SSK 3.0. He is making an update to his rom for this weekend. It has been working great. He has added some new apps and utilities to the WinMo 6.5 Rom. I like it and will probably stick with his roms. Ive used them through the TP and TP2.
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I agree... the SSK roms are great and he supports them very well through his website...
www.sskusers.net
I've had his ROMs way back on my verizon xv6800... my current TP... and I'll use his ROMs on my new TP2 that FexEx says should arrive in the mail tomorrow
what about roms that just work? no need to install anything extra to make it work?
Might ROM for me!
Energy Leo... the best
Calk's Kitchen works without anything additional installed and gives you the option to pick from 5 builds, and it's a KITCHEN!
I seem to hear a lot of good of SSK ROM's. Does SSK ROM fix anything on the TP2? What are the known issues with it so far? SSK website doesn't list issues, just what is included. I would be interested in knowing if any of the usb modem or internet sharing problems have been fixed. I know, I have been through this in another thread, I'm just a little strapped for cash when it comes to having to buy wifi hardware. I'd rather have the usb method working if possible.
I'm no newb to WM. but I am a newb to flashing. I didn't even flash my Q9M ... afraid of bricking the dumb thing with all the horror stories I heard.
One last here, I read about flashing via memory card. Is that possible with this? Thanks

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