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I know the difference between GSM and Non GSM, but other than that, is there a reason to get one over the other? I currently have cingular, but have a great offer to get the touch pro on sprint on a family plan for 20 bucks a month (using pooled mins). Ill stay with att if the Fuze has any advances over the Touch pro. Any suggestions.
Ditching my iphone 3g 16gb for it.
They do look slightly different, but the internals are pretty much the same when it comes down to it. I always stuck with AT&T because I love being able to put my sim card in whatever phone I want. I think, more than anything else, it comes down to the service the carriers have in your area, especially since you can flash them with similar roms and tf3d skins.
I agree that it all depends on service in your area. You could always do a trial to test it out. It doesn't look like the Sprint version has the GPS problems the Fuze does, unless I overlooked it.
I am a current Polaris user on T-Mobile. I am generally happy with the Polaris but am looking for the "next best thing", especially a bigger screen and 3G (T-Mobile flavor). Does anyone have any ideas based on what is coming down the track or should I stick with Polaris?
Hope this is not regarded as off topic.
I would say that the touch diamond 2, topaz would be the best replacement as it is only just been released in europe in the past days and will soon hit the us when is not known i think
Also consider Touch HD if you're multimedia oriented.
I'm still not sure which one I'd choose, Diamond 2 or HD
Thanks for the advice. My problem is being a T-Mobile customer. I like the look of both the Diamond 2 and HD but may hold off until the Pharos 137 is released as it will handle T-Mobile.
Why would that be a problem?
Just go to the shop and... oh... you want to get it provider-locked?
I always bought my phones in manufacturer, not provider shop.
I like my phones unlocked (or, better to say, never locked to provider).
Bodisson. I always buy my phones unlocked too. It is just that I like my T-Mobile $19.99/mth unlimited data plan so would like a phone that can work on T-Mobile 3G. There are not many out there that do that at this point owing to the unique bandwidth occupied by T-Mobile 3G in the US. But I know the Pharos Traveler 137 will, and it is supposedly due out soon.
I will choose the coming Touch Pro2 for it's large screen,additional slide Keyboard & TV connection ability
After a long thought on it i would say that the touch pro 2 is better due what d4rkkn16ht has listed and also that i was toying with the idea of getting a netbook. Now thinking about it if i had this then the reasons for a netbook really do get less, especially if the keyboard is as nice to type on as the early reviewers say
I was so looking forward to the TP2, & now that it's here, & I see the HD2 & its Snapdragon brethren (not to mention Tegra on the horizon), I'm not sure I can go through with buying a $300 (AT&T) phone that's still using that 528MHz Qualcomm chip.
I've gotta stick with AT&T because non other service can match my monthly payment right now ($50/mo for unlimited data & 200 txt), so my question is: what will be the next QWERTY slider that'll work on AT&T's 3G bands?
I saw PN's speculation last Friday - will this be it? Will AT&T carry any Android handsets that might fit the bill? I'm hoping that maybe I've missed something & there's a unit due for the holidays, but I'm starting to think that since I want that QWERTY action, I may have to just suck it up & go with the TP2....
You know, in another site, I asked why everyone was ragging on the new SE X2, while they thought the TP2 was so great, when in reality they are similar in processor, etc. The reply was basically that the X2 is a dinosaur, being released so much later than the TP2, so the X2 should be better, not the same. Well, I feel that ATT (and the others in the US) waited so long in releasing the Tilt2, that I feel like waiting, also, for in a couple of months, there will be something better down the road. My Omnia is still working fine, and I can wait for a hard KB and 3G for a little while (But only for a little while) Give us a WOW!!! machine, ATT
I have around $150 bucks I am willing to throw at a new phone.
I would like it to be able to use wifi, have a decent camera, and a physical qwerty keyboard.
Now I was reading some older threads that talked about buying an unlocked smart phone and then throwing your AT&T SIM into it and you would be good to go.
Is this still an option? Do you guys have any recommendations?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide, it is greatly appreciated!
I had my eye on the HTC S521.
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I have around $150 bucks I am willing to throw at a new phone.
I would like it to be able to use wifi, have a decent camera, and a physical qwerty keyboard.
Now I was reading some older threads that talked about buying an unlocked smart phone and then throwing your AT&T SIM into it and you would be good to go.
Is this still an option? Do you guys have any recommendations?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide, it is greatly appreciated!
I had my eye on the HTC S521.
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Any phone without AT&T branding will do. The way it works is they have a database of IMEI numebers of all the phones they sell. If the phone is not branded by them, it's not in their database, and therefore they wouldn't know what phone you're using. Try it out; When you get your new phone, pop in the SIM and log into your online account. Normally, it will show what phone you're using but now it should show a question mark or generic phone.
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Any phone without AT&T branding will do. The way it works is they have a database of IMEI numebers of all the phones they sell. If the phone is not branded by them, it's not in their database, and therefore they wouldn't know what phone you're using. Try it out; When you get your new phone, pop in the SIM and log into your online account. Normally, it will show what phone you're using but now it should show a question mark or generic phone.
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Thanks a lot for explaining that! So any unlocked phone would work? I suppose I can't use a Sprint Branded Phone or something right? I guess my only other question left is do you have a recommendation for a solid phone for my price range? I don't need anything too fancy.
If you know of a website with reliable reviews of phones that would be appreciated as well.
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Thanks a lot for explaining that! So any unlocked phone would work? I suppose I can't use a Sprint Branded Phone or something right? I guess my only other question left is do you have a recommendation for a solid phone for my price range? I don't need anything too fancy.
If you know of a website with reliable reviews of phones that would be appreciated as well.
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The only Sprint phones that I know of that would work on AT&T (or T-Mobile) are the Blackberry Tour (but has no wifi), Blackberry Bold 9650 (the SIM slot comes unlocked by default), and the Touch Pro 2. The Blackberries would run on EDGE though, not 3G, but the Bold has wifi built in. [Sprint is CDMA, not GSM]
But that aside, do you care if it's a smartphone or not?
Usually CNET.com and Phonedog.com (Phonedog also has a YouTube channel) do good reviews.
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The only Sprint phones that I know of that would work on AT&T (or T-Mobile) are the Blackberry Tour (but has no wifi), Blackberry Bold 9650 (the SIM slot comes unlocked by default), and the Touch Pro 2. The Blackberries would run on EDGE though, not 3G, but the Bold has wifi built in. [Sprint is CDMA, not GSM]
But that aside, do you care if it's a smartphone or not?
Usually CNET.com and Phonedog.com (Phonedog also has a YouTube channel) do good reviews.
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Basically I want the best bang for my buck while avoiding a mandatory data usage fee. I'm at college most the time and they have public WiFi spots that I can use.
The Touch Pro 2 really interested me but it was a bit pricey, although the Sprint Version is much cheaper. But I thought Sprint is only CDMA so how would that work with AT&T?
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Basically I want the best bang for my buck while avoiding a mandatory data usage fee. I'm at college most the time and they have public WiFi spots that I can use.
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Hmm...What about something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocke..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1301901933&sr=1-1
$150 for an unlocked smartphone is rare but Nokia's usually fall within that price range and are really good. Just search "Nokia" on Amazon. Also, you can hit up Craigslist. I know that you can unlock Samsung Vibrants from T-Mobile because the code is actually store inside the phone. Most technologically-illiterate people sell them for cheap because they don't know what they're worth.
EDIT: Also, if you want a slight upgrade to that Nokia, check this out. It's a little over your price range but not by much: http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-QWERTY-Camera-Navigation/dp/B003X26SLC/ref=pd_cp_cps_1_img
Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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As a rule, I prefer GSMArena for reviews and picture galleries, and ignore most else. Their Touch Pro 2 review will tell you a lot.
As far as custom OS' go, you'll want to steer very clear of Nokia if that's your intention. Their devices are built for Symbian (N900 excepted) and that's about it. The Touch Pro 2 has numerous builds of Android available, and came stock with Windows Mobile (not the new one).
Make four more posts and have a scour through the Marketplace here also, you'll find a good deal or two.
Good Luck!
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Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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If you can get an HD2 off eBay, get it. It can run Android, Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.x, Ubuntu, Maemo, and a lot more. It's also equivalent, spec-wise to an Evo. Get it over the Touch Pro 2!.
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If you can get an HD2 off eBay, get it. It can run Android, Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.x, Ubuntu, Maemo, and a lot more. It's also equivalent, spec-wise to an Evo. Get it over the Touch Pro 2!.
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Thanks for your help, I think the HTC HD2 at 150 is a pipe dream, but I'll keep looking haha.
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As a rule, I prefer GSMArena for reviews and picture galleries, and ignore most else. Their Touch Pro 2 review will tell you a lot.
As far as custom OS' go, you'll want to steer very clear of Nokia if that's your intention. Their devices are built for Symbian (N900 excepted) and that's about it. The Touch Pro 2 has numerous builds of Android available, and came stock with Windows Mobile (not the new one).
Make four more posts and have a scour through the Marketplace here also, you'll find a good deal or two.
Good Luck!
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I'm guessing the Marketplace is hidden to me until I make 8 posts then?
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I'm guessing the Marketplace is hidden to me until I make 8 posts then?
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Not sure but you can definitely snag an HD2 off of eBay or Craigslist for cheap. People don't know what these things are worth.
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Not sure but you can definitely snag an HD2 off of eBay or Craigslist for cheap. People don't know what these things are worth.
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Ya they seem to be worth upwards of $400 bucks and I'm pretty sure I can get one for under $250, just not sure I want to spend that much...
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Ya they seem to be worth upwards of $400 bucks and I'm pretty sure I can get one for under $250, just not sure I want to spend that much...
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http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-T-Mobil...Cell_Phones&hash=item1e62a66712#ht_500wt_1156
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http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-T-Mobil...Cell_Phones&hash=item1e62a66712#ht_500wt_1156
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Thanks man, I'll be watching this and see how it develops tonight.
Blah that HD2 went for over 200 when you count shipping. I know that is still probably a good deal but more than I want to spend.
I'm also thinking of just getting the Tilt 2 now and going with the $15 data plan so I can take advantage of the 3G.
I just dumped ATT a couple of months ago and moved us over to Verizon with Droid X phones. Prior when I was on I was given 7 ATT BB 8300 phones by a friend when their company upgraded. for about a year all was fine. We were not using data on them so the small data plan from our old phones was fine. then about 6 months back every month I would get a txt from ATT saying that they had changed my data plan to an appropriate one for the phones. That was $25 a phone per month. Every month i would call and complain and they would tell me that they were removing it. then a few days later they would add it back again.
So be careful because ATT will add data plans on You.
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I just dumped ATT a couple of months ago and moved us over to Verizon with Droid X phones. Prior when I was on I was given 7 ATT BB 8300 phones by a friend when their company upgraded. for about a year all was fine. We were not using data on them so the small data plan from our old phones was fine. then about 6 months back every month I would get a txt from ATT saying that they had changed my data plan to an appropriate one for the phones. That was $25 a phone per month. Every month i would call and complain and they would tell me that they were removing it. then a few days later they would add it back again.
So be careful because ATT will add data plans on You.
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Only if you use AT&T branded phones. If you don't, they won't know what phone you're using because it's not in their database.
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Only if you use AT&T branded phones. If you don't, they won't know what phone you're using because it's not in their database.
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I'm having a hard time finding a decently priced phone that isn't AT&T but that will still work on AT&T's 3G. From my understanding neither the HD2 nor the Touch Pro 2 will do this.
Which is what has swayed me to just forking over the 15 a month and getting the Tilt 2 (Which if I'm not mistaken is the AT&T version of the Touch Pro 2)
I've already checked AT&T's site and this phone only requires 15 a month for a data plan.
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I'm having a hard time finding a decently priced phone that isn't AT&T but that will still work on AT&T's 3G. From my understanding neither the HD2 nor the Touch Pro 2 will do this.
Which is what has swayed me to just forking over the 15 a month and getting the Tilt 2 (Which if I'm not mistaken is the AT&T version of the Touch Pro 2)
I've already checked AT&T's site and this phone only requires 15 a month for a data plan.
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Yeah, I googled it and that's what AT&T decided to call it; The Tilt 2.
Hope so...
Why not? SeaRay was already leaked so it should at least get a press release.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197224
wont be in US so really doesnt matter to me. Sad faise
I just want to hear about a CDMA device that will work on Sprint. But I have a feeling that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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I just want to hear about a CDMA device that will work on Sprint. But I have a feeling that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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I'm on Verizon, we'll be the last to hear of CDMA based devices...
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I'm on Verizon, we'll be the last to hear of CDMA based devices...
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I seriously hate this. I have sprint and I am fed up with Android. And there is one wp7 available for sprint. Everyone says Mango, but where is the damn fruit already?
I don't want a small screen with a keyboard. If sprint doesn't get a better phone before/slightly after Christmas, I'm probably going to pick up the GSII.
The GSM carriers are loaded with various WP7 phones. Where is the love with CDMA?
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I seriously hate this. I have sprint and I am fed up with Android. And there is one wp7 available for sprint. Everyone says Mango, but where is the damn fruit already?
I don't want a small screen with a keyboard. If sprint doesn't get a better phone before/slightly after Christmas, I'm probably going to pick up the GSII.
The GSM carriers are loaded with various WP7 phones. Where is the love with CDMA?
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Trust me, I feel your pain, there is only one device with Verizon...and I waited for ever for the base WP7 device.
The problem is that GSM covers about 85-90% of the world, not just the US.
When a company makes a phone for the global market, it will make the GSM models first because that is where the money is. After the profits start slowing down from the GSM models, then will go towards a CDMA market because there will be more profits to make.
Unless your carrier (Sprint in your case or Verizon in my case) wants a big OEM (HTC, Nokia, etc) to create them a custom phone for their network (and WP7 is not big enough for Sprint or vzw yet), you have to wait till the offer models and that does not show up for a year later.
Look at all the old flip phones, Moto for example, the razor, GSM had it over a year before CDMA carriers did, same deal.
So, if you want new phones on their release, you need to be with a GSM carrier or just wait, like most CDMA users have to....
I'm dreaming of a LTE (Verizon 4G) based WP7 device with a 4" SuperLCD/Super AMOLED display, a QWERTY keyboard, front camera with a good 10-12mp rear camera, dual core CPU and better GPU (for newer games), very slim design and a 2-3 day(real world) battery without making the phone huge. Who ever makes it, I'll buy it...
but, I guess one could dream......
That's y I left Sprint because of the lack of cdma love. Never will make that mistake again. T mobile service sucks in my area wish I had my DVP on Sprint Sero. But I hope Nokia shows us something today.
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Hope so...
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What else would they show, they've made it clear that it's WP7 or burst, they better have one.
When are they debuting it. I've been looking on pocketnow and haven't seen anything
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That's y I left Sprint because of the lack of cdma love.
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Yeah, wish I could leave Sprint, but $40 a month for unlimited data, text, mobile to mobile, nights and weekends, free roaming, 500 anytime. . . well you get the idea. As much as it pains me to not have as many hardware options, I don't feel as much pain when it comes to bill time.
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Trust me, I feel your pain, there is only one device with Verizon...and I waited for ever for the base WP7 device.
The problem is that GSM covers about 85-90% of the world, not just the US.
When a company makes a phone for the global market, it will make the GSM models first because that is where the money is. After the profits start slowing down from the GSM models, then will go towards a CDMA market because there will be more profits to make.
Unless your carrier (Sprint in your case or Verizon in my case) wants a big OEM (HTC, Nokia, etc) to create them a custom phone for their network (and WP7 is not big enough for Sprint or vzw yet), you have to wait till the offer models and that does not show up for a year later.
Look at all the old flip phones, Moto for example, the razor, GSM had it over a year before CDMA carriers did, same deal.
So, if you want new phones on their release, you need to be with a GSM carrier or just wait, like most CDMA users have to....
I'm dreaming of a LTE (Verizon 4G) based WP7 device with a 4" SuperLCD/Super AMOLED display, a QWERTY keyboard, front camera with a good 10-12mp rear camera, dual core CPU and better GPU (for newer games), very slim design and a 2-3 day(real world) battery without making the phone huge. Who ever makes it, I'll buy it...
but, I guess one could dream......
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I know this sucks lol. Do you think they will go towards CDMA this quarter or no? The phones are in high demand from what I've seen. People are just waiting.
I don't know, I might just go out and buy the arrive. Its just like the android shift, but with a tilting display and running WP7. I don't mind the 3.5" display, but coming from an EVO screen size, do you think that is too small or no?
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I know this sucks lol. Do you think they will go towards CDMA this quarter or no? The phones are in high demand from what I've seen. People are just waiting. ?
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No, unless Verizon/Sprint request(aka: Pay big $$$) for a custom phone, no, they wont rush out a model (Note: Carrier or MS, MS could request that CDMA phones are released on the same time).
Think about it, Sprint and Verizon are US companies only and on a global scale, CDMA accounts for around 10% but, I believe it's less. So Verizon and Sprint both combined would be about 4-6% of the worlds sold phones, if that. Even if everyone in Verizon and Sprint was requesting phones, would you as a company put all your effort to companies that account for less than 10% of your market ? I don't think so...
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I don't know, I might just go out and buy the arrive. Its just like the android shift, but with a tilting display and running WP7. I don't mind the 3.5" display, but coming from an EVO screen size, do you think that is too small or no?
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The 4.3" display ? Yea, it is a quite smaller and it might be too small for some people but, in the 3.5-3.8" is a good size for a phone that fits in your pocket.
Want my advice ? If you want WP7, pick up an Arrive off contract. You should be able to get one for under $300 (seen some used go on ebay for under $200 but, for the most part under $300, Just make sure you get one with a clean ESN). So if some new awsome model comes out for Sprint, you don't use up your 2 year contract and still can get a new phone.
That's what I did with my Trophy, still have a $100 credit towards a new phone and I'll hold it till there is a phone that I really want.
My Trophy is a nice phone and it will hold me out till then.....
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Yeah, wish I could leave Sprint, but $40 a month for unlimited data, text, mobile to mobile, nights and weekends, free roaming, 500 anytime. . . well you get the idea. As much as it pains me to not have as many hardware options, I don't feel as much pain when it comes to bill time.
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Same sero plan I was on. Didn't help that my tp2 was almost non functional either. But I sure do miss my sero plan. Sprint service is better in my area than Tmobile. And I sure wasn't going to wait for that Tp3. I was not at all impressed with It so i just went and got the dvp with no contract.
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No, unless Verizon/Sprint request(aka: Pay big $$$) for a custom phone, no, they wont rush out a model (Note: Carrier or MS, MS could request that CDMA phones are released on the same time).
Think about it, Sprint and Verizon are US companies only and on a global scale, CDMA accounts for around 10% but, I believe it's less. So Verizon and Sprint both combined would be about 4-6% of the worlds sold phones, if that. Even if everyone in Verizon and Sprint was requesting phones, would you as a company put all your effort to companies that account for less than 10% of your market ? I don't think so...
The 4.3" display ? Yea, it is a quite smaller and it might be too small for some people but, in the 3.5-3.8" is a good size for a phone that fits in your pocket.
Want my advice ? If you want WP7, pick up an Arrive off contract. You should be able to get one for under $300 (seen some used go on ebay for under $200 but, for the most part under $300, Just make sure you get one with a clean ESN). So if some new awsome model comes out for Sprint, you don't use up your 2 year contract and still can get a new phone.
That's what I did with my Trophy, still have a $100 credit towards a new phone and I'll hold it till there is a phone that I really want.
My Trophy is a nice phone and it will hold me out till then.....
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Yeah that is a really good idea... CDMA phones are always last for everything. If I can pick one up for 200 or less, I'll just do that then. But hopefully one comes out by then.
If not, I guess I'll buy the GSII. Unless I can buy an unlocked trophy and use it on sprint? Is that possible? I don't really like physical keyboards.
The Arrive is a great phone - you will be happy with it, and the screen is big enough, especially since you have a nice keyboard.
But I imagine you are like me, and want a nice candybar form-factor, like the GSII. Hopefully Sprint will get one this holiday season, but until then, the Arrive is a very nice phone.
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The Arrive is a great phone - you will be happy with it, and the screen is big enough, especially since you have a nice keyboard.
But I imagine you are like me, and want a nice candybar form-factor, like the GSII. Hopefully Sprint will get one this holiday season, but until then, the Arrive is a very nice phone.
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Yeah I am going to wait. I for sure do not want any other Android other than the GSII. I personally wish the hardware was up to date with WP7, but what can you do. At least it has a nice HD display.
Probably will check it out again tomorrow. I'm ready for a phone to actually "work" without a hassel of "oh **** I forgot the flash that fix", or "my battery is draining, I need to kill more apps, change kernels, switch CPU settings, blah blah blah blah blah."
Why are Androids even called "smartphones"? They have more problems than a farmer trying to grow crops in the winter. Its just pointless lol. I never play games, I go on facebook, (can't even sync anything = battery dead), check emails, and Reddit time to time.
WP7 would be perfect for me lol.
So, what happened to the Aug. 17th announcement?
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So, what happened to the Aug. 17th announcement?
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