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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

Warning XDA2i + Tom Tom 5 don't work together.

Hi Guys
Before you go and spend your money on tom tom 5, if you have an xda2i it's not compatible and tom tom won't supoort it. I've only found this out after buying the tt5 upgrade.
I can't get it to see the gps device on outgoing com port 6 on my xda2i.
Got a Fortuna Clip On BT GPS
Lost all the will to live with this now, feel like selling my xda2i.
Any help before it goes on ebay?
thanks
jase

Just got TomTom 5 for my XDA IIi as well. I've got the wired TT GPS receiver and all I get is no GPS device. I've set TT to the right receiver type but can't see anyway of changing the com port to use.
Any ideas? or like you am I screwed

I have an xda2i with TT5 and BT GPS receiver...works fine.
Or at least as good as with TT3. TT5 seems to turn off BT once it's been closed though, bit annoying.
Didn't have any problems with installing it though.
Ant

Ant
Which BT GPS Receiver are you using?
Can you go through which settings in TT5 did u use, what's your outgoing com port etc.
Thanks
jase

does this thread works for You?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=125456#125456
I'm thinking to mget the qtek2020i as wel with the tt5

Hi Goldenhands
I'll give it a go.
Thanks

I've tried this and it doesn't work.
Bluetooth app locks my outgoing com port to port 6. Does this need to be changed?
Thanks

AndyM said:
Just got TomTom 5 for my XDA IIi as well. I've got the wired TT GPS receiver and all I get is no GPS device. I've set TT to the right receiver type but can't see anyway of changing the com port to use.
Any ideas? or like you am I screwed
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untick recieve all incoming beams under connections

It was already unticked mate.

I have a QTEK 9090 with a BT antenna from TT3.
I simply installed TT5 over TT3 and everything worked right away.
Only problem is that in many screens, the onscreen keyboard is missing so I have to use the slideout keyboard. I expect them to fix that but it's really not that big a problem.

you have an xda2-s?
tom tom 5 is compatible with that but the xda2i isn't according to tom tom.

I am running Tom Tom 5 with the GreatBritain-Map on and XDA 2i with an "Aktronix" Bluetooth GPS reciever and it works absolutly with no problems whatsoever
My GPS reciever isnt paired and uses COM 6:
Tom Tom turns the bluetooth on by itself so my bluetooth is set to off usually.
I dont have a bluetooth headset.

Hi Danny
You saying that you didn't pair your gps receiver in with your xda2i first in the bluetooth manager?
Thanks

tomtom5 and xda2i
Have aked tomtom if it is a problem ,since have ordered upgrade,will let you know the response!

ok was just a suggestion ,as mine works fine ,with the phone off ,i got it to work perfectly with phone on made a call updated traffic until i put the phone in it's cradle and the gps locked it all up from then on

just had a look on TOMTOM site for unsupported devices for TTN5 here is the list
The following devices are not compatible with NAVIGATOR 5:
* Fujitsu Siemens (all models)
* Toshiba (all models)
Siemens SX 56
Acer N10
Eten P700
Mitac Mio 558
PackardBell Pocket Gear 3025
ViewSonic V37
Yakumo DELTA 300 , DELTA 400
ASUS MyPal (these do not have SD capabilities)
* We are working on achieving compatibility with the Toshiba and Fujitsu Siemens devices by Autumn 2005. For technical reasons, NAVIGATOR 5 will unfortunately not be made compatible for the other devices on the list.
the link is
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=24170bb816956c251a093199d55d42ea
So i am abit confused when you say TOMTOM 5 is not compatible. I have also emailed TOMTOM i awaiting their reply, i will post it on here once i get it.
I dont have a XDA IIi i have a XDA II .. i was thinking of upgrading to the XDA IIi but now i shall wait and see.
regards
Nya

just had a look on TOMTOM site for unsupported devices for TTN5 here is the list
The following devices are not compatible with NAVIGATOR 5:
* Fujitsu Siemens (all models)
* Toshiba (all models)
Siemens SX 56
Acer N10
Eten P700
Mitac Mio 558
PackardBell Pocket Gear 3025
ViewSonic V37
Yakumo DELTA 300 , DELTA 400
ASUS MyPal (these do not have SD capabilities)
* We are working on achieving compatibility with the Toshiba and Fujitsu Siemens devices by Autumn 2005. For technical reasons, NAVIGATOR 5 will unfortunately not be made compatible for the other devices on the list.
the link is
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=24170bb816956c251a093199d55d42ea
So i am abit confused when you say TOMTOM 5 is not compatible. I have also emailed TOMTOM i awaiting their reply, i will post it on here once i get it.
I dont have a XDA IIi i have a XDA II .. i was thinking of upgrading to the XDA IIi but now i shall wait and see.
regards
Nya

TOMTOM 5 Might be able to help you out IMPORTANT
Hi Guys & Gals!.. right might be able to help here... ive got a magician and I got tomtom 5 on saturday... I have the original bluetooth TOMTOM GPS and I had Tomtom 3 on the pda, I uninstalled tomtom 3 and then installed tomtom 5.. and it connected to the bluetooth reciever. Then I went off thinking it would work and it didnt connect (no GPS found), so I reintstalled again did all the bonding int bluetooth manager, and it still didnt work... so I did a hard reset which was a pain but then reinstalled tomtom 5 again.... went to work and it still didnt work so I was in the car messing about trying to get it to bond and did it all again and it didnt work!...
So just got to work (HERES THE IMPORTANT BIT) and went up to my mate whos a techie currently building the largest Oracle solution in the world) and said look this blinking things not working.. so he started proding the screen with the pen all over the place mumbling as he does and hey presto the screen was in the GPS status screen were it shows all the satelite data and he touched the bit thats says NO GPS device (its not a box its just the text) and it then came up to reset the device to finish installation and hey presto it worked!!!!! ....
SO try this if it works the bloke is a genius !....and TOMTOM have a serious floor in there software.
Post on here your findings :lol: I keep checking it every 5 mins to see if its connecting and it is fine now.. SO FAR!

Having said that
Having said what ive just said... ive just turned it on and its now doing it again and not finding the module... dont believe it! it seems very wierd... let me know your thoughts please!

Having said that again.. ive now changed to a wired one in the configuration and selected it then gone back to the bluetooth one waited 60 seconds and clicked on the no gps device again which has reset the device and its working again! wierd.......!

TomTom Mobile 5 & Imate SP5

Just recently purchased an Imate SP5 and TT5 Mobile. Both work really well with the Tomtom GPS unit.
I also have a Syson Sirf III unit, and I cannot manage to make it work with TT5. I've tried selecting "other Bluetooth GPS" in Tomtom settings with no luck at all.
Can anybody please help me???

Why don't you want to use the Tomtom GPS?

Don't use Other Bluetooth...
I assume that you know what COM port your GPS is accessible on, and what the speed is (presumably 38400). Use the Serial NMEA selection and then set the appropriate baud rate and choose the port. That usually works more reliably.
Hope this helps!

It's not that I don't want to use tomtom's GPS. I have two cars and I want to have a GPS installed in each car to the cigarrete lighter, so that I don't have to take the GPS unit with me every time (most of the time I forget).
As to NMEA selection, the Tomtom5 version for smartphone only lets you choose Tomtom GPS receive or Other GPS receiver. Period. No "other NMEA GPS" and then select the baud rate like in the PocketPC version.

I think that you can only use one GPS in your mobil phone, cause the first one you have paired is using the incoming com port, and the second one can´t reach that port becouse it is asociated with the first one.
I can´t use 2 identical GPS units in my C500. Only the first one that i have paired works.
..but maybe there is a solution for this.

TomTom disables BlueTooth on exit

Hi,
I use a BlueTrek earpiece (bluetooth) to enable handfree calling with my Qtek9100. I Also use TomTom Navigator.
When TomTom starts it enables the BlueTooth connections (if not allready active). This is usefull since I use a BlueTooth GPS with TomTom.
However, if I exit the TomTom Navigator application it is also disabeling BlueTooth, resulting in loosing the connection with the earpiece.
Does anybody know if this can be changed?
Perhaps a registry key I can change to solve this small, but annoyng, problem.
Gert-Jan

Turn on bluetooth before you start TomTom, then when you quit it should stay on. Does on my xda IIi anyway

The same on my magician. TT5.1 returns BT in the state it was before starting TT. TT5.0 however always shuts down BT on close.
Regards, M

I tested this last week, but came to the sam conclusion.
No matter what the state of BT, TomTom always disables BT on exit.
Gert-Jan

Ditto with my XDA2i running TomTom5 with a Qstarz BT-Q880. Slightly annoying.
However, if I press one of the hard buttons (such as the Contact List button), when the new window is brought up TomTom is minimised. Then, I can Switch (from hfrmobile.com) to Close All - and while this disconnects the GPS device, I've doublechecked and it doesn't disconnect my bluetooth headset, nor does it turn off the Bluetooth itself.
So, that in itself is a quick-and-dirty workaround hack, but I've not come up with any other solution thus far. Currently scouring the registry and the configuration files (what few there are) for a fix - it may be that someone with infinitely more coding ability needs to hack the TomTom .exe to disable this switchoff, though that's no mean feat.

You will probably find that if you reconfigure your GPS reciever in the Tomtom preferances as an "other wired receiver" select an appropriate baud rate, then select a Bluetooth com port, it will still work with a bluetooth GPS receiver but will completely leave your Bluetooth alone.
This does also mean it wont start it automatically if it's not allready on.

That doesn't work - the only way my Qstarz will work is if I configure it as Other Wired NMEA GPS and then run it on Bluetooth COM6, setting the baud rate appropriately (the Qstarz will accept any rate from 4800 to 115500 anyway, so that's rather irrelevant). Even if it's set as other wired GPS, the bluetooth is still disabled upon TT exiting.
This is also the info advised by the TomTom website if you're having problems getting your GPS to run with the software, so I'm guessing it's the only way. I'll have another look round the TT web site when I'm not so pushed for time.

What Tomtom version are you guys using? After a little play with mine I can say that with GPS setup as a bluetooth device. If bluetooth is on when I start Tomtom it stays on after I exit.
I use version 5.2 for Pocket PC

Well, small update - after having TomTom pop up the Bluetooth Manager box every time it starts up, and asking me which device I'd like to use as default, I managed to select the Qstarz Serial Port Connection shortcut which I created (had to manually create the link after setting up the device pairing) - I checked the option to Use this connetion by default, and now TomTom leaves the Bluetooth turned on after it exits!
Smashing stuff, means I can now use my headset and TomTom simultaneously in the car.
This is with TomTom 5.000 (4890) with GPS driver v1.20 and using the Great Britain Plus Map (v571). Bosh!

I get something different on my QTEK S100. When the QTek starts receiving the GPS signal (via bluetooth), TomTom freezes the screen for about 2 seconds and then closes TomTom.
Any ideas about this problem?
Is it because I had "MagicButton" installed? I uninstalled it, did soft reset... but the problem is still there. I can I know if it is MAgicButton doing that?
Thanks
DoubleW

iGuidance 4 Problem on HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris

I had been using iGuidance4 on my old Samsung i730 off a 4GB SD Card. It worked very well . I used it syncing with a BT iTrekM5+ BT GPS Receiver (MTK Chipset) in my wife's car and with a Parrot 3400 LS-GPS (it is an intergrated Hands free BT and GPS receiver).
I have recently upgraded my phone to a HTC Touch Cruise and am using iGuidance4 now on a 6GB MicroSDHC card. It works flawlessly with my Parrot and iTrek Receivers.
The problem that I am having is that iGuidance4 is barely working with the Touch Cruise inbuilt GPS. The phone runs on a Qualcomm MSM7200 (Chipset) @ 400MHz,and has bulit in GPS. The iGuidance program works in fits and starts with a very, very long lag time while running, so as to render the program unusable.
I thought that there may be a problem with the intergrated GPS on the phone, but I don't think that this is the case, because the inbuilt intergrated GPS of the Touch Cruise works perfectly with both Google Maps and Microsoft Live Search.
I wonder if anyone might have any thoughts
or suggestions on this problem.
I have also posted this on the PDAPhoneHome website (http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/pdaphone-discussion/100265-iguidance-4-htc-touch-cruise-polaris.html)
Thanks
Turnip

I would like to hear any updates on your problem as I intended to use iGuidance as well, mainly for its Text-To-Speech and Navteq maps.

Does anyone else have any other experience of getting iGuidance 4 to work with Touch Cruise? There seems to be a workaround using GPSGate described in pdaphonehome, but is this the only way to get it working?

nosnoop said:
Does anyone else have any other experience of getting iGuidance 4 to work with Touch Cruise? There seems to be a workaround using GPSGate described in pdaphonehome, but is this the only way to get it working?
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On the TC, open iGuidance, go to Tool, then GPS Options, then COM Port, and select Com4
Then, go to the same area and set the Baud Rate to 9600.
If for some reason you've changed your settings, on your TC go to the Start Menu, Settings, System, and then click on External GPS to find out what your settings are.
Dave