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I have just unlocked my tilt with Kaiser SimUnlocker. I put my T-Mobile sim card but no connection. Always searching... I put my friends Cingular sim card (old at&t) and still no connection. So I thought my phone was broken so I took it to local AT&T store and one of the rep says 'maybe it's the sim card'. And he grabs one of his new AT&T sim card and voila! connected. Have anyone had that problem? What can I do to fix this? My T-Mobile sim card is says 38.01e on the card next to my sim serial number. Is it my sim card? Do I have to get a new sim card? I've just got this sim card about 2 months ago. Any suggestion?
I assume you reflashed an appropriate radio after unlocking?
I would try flashing a new radio anyway to see if that sorts your problem.
I've tried severa different radio roms with no luck. Right now I've reflashed back to US At&T rom. I still no clue why my T-Mobile sim will not connect to the network...
On AT&T, the tilt requires the newer AT&T 3G cards - thus probably why the Cingular card didn't work. Are you sure the SIM unlock process worked for you? If your T-mobile SIM is that new, I can't imagine you needing a new T-Mobile SIM. The T-Mobile SIM has worked in another phone?
Guilf said:
On AT&T, the tilt requires the newer AT&T 3G cards - thus probably why the Cingular card didn't work.
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That's strange b/c my Cingular card works on my tilt.
I unlocked my AT&T Tilt and then put in my (almost 1 year old) t-mobile sim card and it worked immediately without any problems. I used the original radio as directed in the unlocking tutorial. So it sounds like maybe you should do the unlocking procedure again. ?
Hope this helps,
stacy
did you even try putting ur sim into another phone and see if it works? just making sure u covered everything here
Maybe you are locked into 3G
Go under Phone/Options/Band and make sure the top is either set to Auto or GSM
Thanks for all the replys...
I have tried just about everything...
I know it's unlock b/c it does not ask for unlock code no more. I have hp hw6945 that is also unlocked and works perfect in there. It connects almost instantly so I know my sim card works too. Also tried changing band setting to Auto and 900/1800 and everything and no luck... Going crazy and frustrated... about to just sell it to some at&t user and buy a new one, try again.
Just to let you xda'ers know that when I tried to unlock it for the first time I tried with spl-1.56 on it as a factory (dummy me) then tried SuperCid unlock which changed to spl-1.0 then proceded with rest of the unlock. Maybe that messed something up?
I've had that issue but my sim card with t-mobile was 4 years old. Had to purchase a new sim card and everything worked fine after that. With my old sim card, the tilt wouldn't even recognize the card.
Anybody want to donate an old T-Mobile SIM to me
buddy had same issue just happen.. he had to go to tmobile and show them the sim wasnt working they gave him a new @ no charge
I had a old cingular card that came with my Razr and it worked fine in my 8525 Hermes, but it said no service in my 8925 tilt. I would try a new t-mobile card.
I generally understand how SIM cards work in the GSM world, but I am curious as to how it works within Verizon. I know Verizon uses both SIM/4G and CDMA in one phone.
So my question is, if anyone has two Thunderbolts handy:
Can you swap the SIM cards between the two units and will the phone number and data usage STAY with the SIM? Or will the phone number STAY and the data usage MOVE with the SIM? Or some other variant? Or will you need to get a new SIM and/or call Verizon to reactivate the SIM when you move it?
AND, are you swapping between two Thunderbolts on the same account or different accounts?
Thanks.
Verizon told me it works just like GSM.
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From my experience yesterday with swapping my dinc and bolt numbers you can not swap cards. Had to get a new sim card to swap numbers.
SIM card is assigned to your phone number, and not to the phone itself. If you exchange your phone, but you keep your phone number, you can use the same Sim with new phone. If you put your Sim into a different phone with different phone number, even on the same account, and even it would be a TB, it would not work.
I only believe half of what comes out of a VZW CSR and about 10% that comes from a sale rep at a VZW store.
Looking for hard examples.
youneek said:
Verizon told me it works just like GSM.
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DINC doesn't have a SIM, but interesting info.
Looking for a hard example that is two Thunderbolts on the same account or separate accounts.
ripster said:
From my experience yesterday with swapping my dinc and bolt numbers you can not swap cards. Had to get a new sim card to swap numbers.
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The TB is there first sim card phone.
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I'm confused. At first you say the SIM is assigned to your phone number and not the phone. Later on you say the SIM in another phone with a different number, does not work.
"If you put your Sim into a different phone with different phone number"???
You can only have 1 SIM card in a thunderbolt at a time. Are you speaking from experience or is this what VZW told you?
fuzio1963 said:
SIM card is assigned to your phone number, and not to the phone itself. If you exchange your phone, but you keep your phone number, you can use the same Sim with new phone. If you put your Sim into a different phone with different phone number, even on the same account, and even it would be a TB, it would not work.
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Never said dinc has a Sim card. In order for me to change the number on the TBolt i had to get a new Sim card. So you can't swap cards like gsm.
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Never said dinc has a Sim card. In order for me to change the number on the TBolt i had to get a new Sim card. So you can't swap cards like gsm.
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Why does being unable to change your number without getting a new sim mean you can't swap the sim card into a different phone.
You can move your sim into whichever phone you choose, which as of now would be from one tbolt to another tbolt, no need to call verizon or anything. You will be able to simply move your sim from tbolt to the samsung droid charge or the bionic when they come out if you wish.
Actually you can swap the sim cards between phones, I have done it. The reason you had to call was to activate your number on the sim.
bunklung said:
So my question is, if anyone has two Thunderbolts handy:
Can you swap the SIM cards between the two units and will the phone number and data usage STAY with the SIM? Or will the phone number STAY and the data usage MOVE with the SIM? Or some other variant? Or will you need to get a new SIM and/or call Verizon to reactivate the SIM when you move it?
AND, are you swapping between two Thunderbolts on the same account or different accounts?
Thanks.
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The phone number is tied to the SIM like GSM. I got a replacement shipped to me and swapping the SIM back and forth did all the activating.
When I got a new droid shipped to me I always had to call and tell them the MEID of my new phone before it would activate.
So, when you stick your SIM in another phone, that phone get's your phone number, data, etc. the same as a GSM phone.
bunklung said:
DINC doesn't have a SIM, but interesting info.
Looking for a hard example that is two Thunderbolts on the same account or separate accounts.
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In other words.....he has dinc, and he wants his dinc ph number on his new TB. He never said, dinc had sim.....
bunklung said:
I'm confused. At first you say the SIM is assigned to your phone number and not the phone. Later on you say the SIM in another phone with a different number, does not work.
"If you put your Sim into a different phone with different phone number"???
You can only have 1 SIM card in a thunderbolt at a time. Are you speaking from experience or is this what VZW told you?
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When you change the phone, you are "taking" your phone number from old one to the new one. Then, you don't need a new sim card, cus you still have the same phone number on your new phone. But, lest say, your friend has TB as well....if you put your sim into his phone (and vice versa), your sim will not be working. (it won't recognise his ph number as yours - the one it has been assigned to).
Morkai Almandragon said:
Actually you can swap the sim cards between phones, I have done it. The reason you had to call was to activate your number on the sim.
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Yeah, true!! But you have the same phone number on you new/next handset, right?
I switched from T-Mobile and a Nexus S to a TB hoping that the SIM card swapping works the same. A couple year ago Verizon had a press release about being more open to devices so I hope that it means the same deal as I used to be able to pop my SIM card to any upcoming LTE phone
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jinvox said:
I switched from T-Mobile and a Nexus S to a TB hoping that the SIM card swapping works the same. A couple year ago Verizon had a press release about being more open to devices so I hope that it means the same deal as I used to be able to pop my SIM card to any upcoming LTE phone
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No, T-Mo is a GSM, and VZW is CDMA. Verizon SIM is only for DATA.
Darn oh well
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Have you tried this between two Thunderbolts or are you just assuming this works?
I assume it to work too, but I want to know if someone has actually tried this.
shaddix2 said:
Why does being unable to change your number without getting a new sim mean you can't swap the sim card into a different phone.
You can move your sim into whichever phone you choose, which as of now would be from one tbolt to another tbolt, no need to call verizon or anything. You will be able to simply move your sim from tbolt to the samsung droid charge or the bionic when they come out if you wish.
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Between two Thunderbolts?
Morkai Almandragon said:
Actually you can swap the sim cards between phones, I have done it. The reason you had to call was to activate your number on the sim.
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Yesterday i called *611 CS and tried to swap numbers between my dinc and tbolt. He did in fact switch numbers but the sim in the tbolt was deactivated. He might have screwed up something but told me he could send me a new one or i can take it to a verizon store. I was still able to make calls with the tbold but didnt have any data until they program a new sim card.
Missed this one. Thanks for responding directly to my question.
My last question is, can you swap it between different accounts? The phone sent to you was to be activated on your account. Can you take any strangers phone and SIM swap?
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The phone number is tied to the SIM like GSM. I got a replacement shipped to me and swapping the SIM back and forth did all the activating.
When I got a new droid shipped to me I always had to call and tell them the MEID of my new phone before it would activate.
So, when you stick your SIM in another phone, that phone get's your phone number, data, etc. the same as a GSM phone.
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Since the droid charge uses a sim card, can I still switch to it form another verizon phone via the website? Like this: http://www.ehow.com/how_5046976_switch-phones-easily-verizon-wireless.html
I currently have an Iphone and I want to buy a droid charge off-contract and switch to it.
My guess is you have an AT&T iPhone since the Verizon iPhone doesn't have a SIM in it. The 4G LTE phone(s) as of right now its just the ThunderBolt (we are still waiting on the Droid Charge, LG Revolution and the Droid Bionic) all use a 4G LTE SIM, but that is only for LTE their current voice calls are on 3G which is CDMA and doesn't use a SIM.
So if you were swapping one 4G LTE Verizon phone to another yes you could the same SIM but not otherwise.
I have the verizon iphone. Since the charge uses a sim card, I was wondering if I could still switch from a verizon phone that does NOT use a sim card (the iphone).
i'm not talking about switching sim cards. On the verizon website, you can switch phones by inputting the ESN/MEID of the new phone.
I hope I made myself clearer (probably not).
You would need a new sim card. The sim cards are 1 time use so if you activate the iphone you will need a new sim to activate the Charge again.
I am a bit confused on this. The Verizon iPhone takes a SIM card, that isn't something I had heard before. In either case if the VZW iPhone takes one, it would be a 3G only SIM and the Charge requires a 4G LTE SIM.
I have also read from a user who had the ThunderBolt and took his 4G LTE SIM out and put it into the Charge and it worked for them. That I also found odd since it was supposed to be a one time use, per phone which seems like a waste, but its Verizon.
Its not per phone. The sim is a one time activation that once deactivated it can never be activated again. You can swap the sim to other devices but if you ever deactivate it it can never be used again.
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The Verizon iPhone takes a SIM card.
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The verizon Iphone does not take a sim card, only the AT&T one does. That's the problem. I am hoping that I can buy a new verizon sim card and have my current number transferred to it.
Verizon will give you a new SIM for free when you activate a 4G phone (currently TBolt or Droid Charge) and will transfer your number to it. You can then swap the SIM between different 4G phones without having to call Verizon, do *228, or any other maneuvers-- it just works.
However, if you ever switch back from your 4G device to a 3G device on the same number, your SIM will become "retired" and you need to go get another one from Verizon (again, free, at least so far) if you want to switch back to a 4G phone. Or, they will mail you a SIM.
I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
Thanks.
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I'm (hopefully) going to be getting the M8 today/tomorrow. I presently have an iPhone 5s. Question is, can I use my current nano sim with the M8 or do I need to use the one that it comes with? I know the new SIM has to be used if I want to use NFC or whatever, but Verizon tells me if I activate the new SIM my old one (in my 5s) will expire. I am sure I'll want to swap back and forth quite a bit, so having 900 sims on hand won't be convenient. One rep says I can use my 5s sim, another says no -- so big question is, can I, or can't I? I don't care if NFC won't work, and IDK what the M8 sim would do (if anything) if I tried it in my 5s.
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The way verizon works, I think the sim is sort of tied to the account. You still need to have the ESN on your account as verizon is not purely sim based. Therefore, I do not think you can switch sims, and if you do you MIGHT get purely LTE service, but no cdma.
You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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You shouldn't have any problems swapping Sims. I had no problem putting the micro SIM in my HTC one m7 into my droid bionic. I did have to use an adapter since Bionic uses standard SIM but I had no problem.
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Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
boxermansr said:
Did you have to call in, or were you just able to swap the SIM and everything was working? I recall when I had my Razr, and swapped to the Razr Maxx all I had to do was swap the SIM, and I was good to go. Verizon has confirmed with me that the SIM will work, but I guess I won't have NFC, which again I don't care about either way. Just want to make it as simple as possible, and not have Verizon fiddle with my plan.
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Nope I never had to call. I even noticed that it changed my phone on the My Verizon website which was neat.
You shouldn't have any issues and no you don't have to call. I have a micro sim cut to a nano and I switch it between my M7 and 5S every now and then. If I plan on switching between my 5S and M8 it'll be easier since they both use nano.
I'm using my nano Sim from my 5s in my new M8 now. Didn't call VZW, did nothing on line, just popped it out of the iPhone and into the One.
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Assuming you're switching between devices that have like provisioning(which the two phones will) you will for sure be fine, no need to call. The devices will check in with the platform when they first boot up and the device ID on the account will change on it's own after a short while without you needing to do anything.
Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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Well it is good to be corrected then. I take my statement back, I had no idea verizon started making sense.
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They did as soon as they switched to 4g sim cards.
As long as devices you swap between are 4g I haven't had an issue. The problem is when you go from 4g to 3g back in the gnex to iPhone 4s days. Every time you did that you'd burn a sim card on Verizon.
Now iI can swap from my m8 to my iPhone 5 with a quick sim swap.
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
boxermansr said:
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. Will be off to get my device in a few hours. One more question, since we already established the SIM from my iPhone 5s will work in the M8, will the reverse apply as well (the SIM from the M8 working in the 5s) - I'm guessing not, since (at least from what Verizon has told me) that sim is different? I know I'll be switching back and forth between devices, so I just want to make sure I know which sim/sims will work accordingly.
Thanks again.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
Burned??
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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You'll go get your m8 and it will come with a new sim. The old one in your iPhone will be burned after they activate the new one and Verizon won't let you use it again. Just swap the new one that comes in your m8. Don't listen to Verizon. I'm using my new sim in my m8, m7, and iPhone 5.
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Well I'm adding a new line, so they'll have to activate it on the new line. Then I plan to throw my sim from my 5s in the M8. Was just curious if the one from the M8 *would* work in the 5s, in case I decided to get a new SIM before I swap (since I know once I throw a dumb phone on the new line, the SIM from the M8 will be toast).
I'll just use my 5s one, since it seems the easiest. I hate going to Verizon so I just wanna be in and out
You won't lose NFC capability when swapping SIMs. NFC is part of the phone's hardware. What you will lose is ISIS capability, since that relies on the SIM.
You can use Google wallet just when swapping SIMs.
I modified my micro sim from the DNA and it works perfectly. The ISIS loss isn't a problem for me, as google wallet works.
Icyman said:
What do you mean by Burned?
That it's unusable in the future?
I have reactivated a sim card before but maybe it was a different situation. I'm on a business account too. So we can change phones online without calling in. I don't know if non-business accounts can do that or not.
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As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
meest said:
As in Verizon normally won't reactivate them. I've had wonderful arguments about this on my work side also. More often than not they've made me switch to a new SIM when reactivating something that had a SIM in it already. Say when someone loses their phone, and I have another verizon phone with a SIM already in it from a terminated Employee.
I've had it the other way to where they will. But when I was switching between a Gnex and an iPhone 4s. Every time I wanted to reactivate the Gnex I would have to go get a new SIM as they wouldn't reactivate the previous one. something about going between 3G to 4G systems.
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Yes. you are correct. I did experience that once when going from iphone 4 to my Rezound but once you go 4g you never go back. It's un-explainable.
I activated the nano SIM that came with the M8 and put it straight into an adapter and into my S4 (I haven't got the chance to copy files and settings over to the HTC yet so I'm still using the S4 as my phone for now) and my S4's running fine on it!
So in answer to the OP's question, just activate the new SIM and you can use that in both your iPhone and HTC (then the current SIM you have is useless). You shouldn't have any issues switching back and forth.
there's adapters on amazon to take your new nano sim and put it in phones that require a micro sim or other size. But i switch between my phones all the time and all it takes is putting in your current SIM card
So after much research deciding between a new Moto X and a Z3 I found a great deal on a D6633 and pulled the trigger and should have it later this week.
My questions is regarding the Nano SIM the phone uses, right now I have an HTC ONE M7 which uses a micro SIM. I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly). Most people just say to use your current SIM and don't say anything to ATT. So if I wanted to go that route my only option would be to cut my current SIM, I had tried to do that before and the cutter I used destroyed my SIM card.
So people with experience getting the D6633 working on ATT what route did you go, if I were to try and cut my SIM I would get a much better cutter this time around but it still makes me a bit nervous with my past experience trying it. If you got a new NANO SIM how much of a hassle was it to get working on LTE and do you have any tips to make my transition more smooth.
Thanks!
I can not speak for ATT, but I came from the Nexus 5 which also used a micro sim. I used a scissor to cut it and it works flawlessly!
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AT&T should be able to give you a nano sim, as the iPhone 6/6+ use the same, they should have some in stock. I do not see why it would cause LTE issues.
AT&T should be able to use the IMEI in their system for the M7 and assign that to the Nano sim. I had an AT&T micro sim in my T-Mobile unlocked Note 3, went into the store with my Developer edition Moto X and asked for a new nano sim. They didn't ask me for either of my phones - just transferred whatever IMEI was in their system to the nano, handed it over and then waited while I booted up the Moto X to confirm everything was working and didn't even charge me for the new sim card. If they run into issues just tell them to use an IMEI off one of the demo phones in their showroom.
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I have read many threads and people say if they request a new NANO SIM or if they go in the store and get a NANO SIM they have issues getting the phone working on LTE (I think its because ATT does ntot sell the Z3 so they have a hard time registering the IMEI correctly).
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I think that is based on old information. Back in the day when I was trying to get a micro-SIM provisioned for LTE with my (unbranded) Sony Xperia ZL, the store rep had to use the IMEI from his own AT&T Branded Xperia TL for me.
Last week I went in to get a nano-SIM for my Z3, the store rep just entered its IMEI into their system, and I got LTE right away.
One thing to be aware of is that you also need to enable LTE in the phone itself:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks/More... -> Mobile networks -> Network Mode -> LTE (preferred)/WCDMA/GSM
And of course you need a D6503/D6603, with support for AT&T's LTE frequencies.