I got a XV6700 off of ebay,
worked pretty well for a few months. Eventually the keyboard went bad. The presses felt weird and some of the keys stopped working. Took it apart and I can tell there is no way to remove the keyboard without destroying it. UTStarcomm's support is pretty crappy. Sounds like a hand full of people in a small office in NY city. I called a few times and got the same two ladies. Was hoping they'd forward me to a real tech that could sell me the part for the keyboard.
Is there even a snowball chance in h e double hockey sticks that I can get a replacement keyboard? Going to just ebay it for parts if I can't.
Really your best bet is to look for a 6700 with a cracked screen and salvage it for your keyboard. Or just get use to using the on-screen keyboard. There is some s/w out there that the makes on-screen keyboard look better and easer to use.
so today was a good day. for one i was blessed to wake up this morning and to top it of i held a ATT FUZE in my hand. it was the best 10 plus minutes in my life while i was wearing clothes lol. yes people i was at the store today in Milford, CT. the sales associate there had a test model. and i must say it is everything you would have guessed it would be. first off both the stores i went to in the Milford, CT area said the phone will be available the first week in november. so the oct. 23 date is a farse. the guy at the store named weel call "joe the plumber" (cause he is so famous these days) said he had his training on this past tuesday. and most likely the phone will be in his words. "the same price as the tilt when it came out or price competativaly with the iphone. with the rebate if u get the data upgrade." im probally not going to say any thing about the phone you dont know but it reafems the fact that it is real and is as good as advertized. and in the Milford store i was told i was the only person to ask about the phone so i should be the only one with it for a while. im the 1st person in the list for the saleperson. i cant wait for that call in november.
the phone= it self has the diamond back like the unlocked version. i dont know i asked why cause sprints diamond has a soft touch back and he said "the test group didnt like that feture." but i said if ur typing on the table the phone will wiggle cause of the uneven back. i think att was lazy and told htc to change the keyboard and ship the phone out. lol. and the phone is so light. the tilt is a brick compared to this phone. i currently hava lg cu500 and it is bout .25" taller and not much thicker. and that is good cause you get a ful keybaord.
the keyboard= lost the upper top row of just numbers. but it has a lot of quick bottons for text and internet and such. also has a phone style number pad on the keyboard. the keys felt nice and the sliding was smooth. and the screen responded nice. though the accelerometer was not as resposive as he iphone when you moved the phone when viewing webpages. but the zoom was sick.
the camera= i didnt really take pics but the pics he toke and had on the phone was clear. he also showed me the card reader program. with this program you take a pic of a bussines card and it scans the info and make a new ocntact on your phone. it toke like 15 sec for it to scan i thought it froze but it was understandable and still amazinfg when all the info was pust in the correct name, address, etc. sections on the screen. the touch flo with pics are amazing and the screen is so nice. the phone had a led flash if i remember correct. i was so distracted by the pretty screen and touch flo i didnt take time to look much at the buttons and such on the phnone. but i temember a white/yellow thing below the camera lense.
what the phone comes with. the phone i looked at was a test phone so jow said all he got in his black unmarked box was cd, phone, usb, and charger. i know when i went to the sprint store in Hamden, CT where i live and looked at the diamond it came with that and a holtster, air buds, screen protector. i hope att add these things cause for the price i kinda expect it, and htc makes them for the unlocked phone so it should happen.
touch flo was sick. it works as adverticed. they obviously added a att store tab. the pics scrooled nice, and the music player was cool. the contact was scroolable too. i mean everything that you already know is there.
so in closing. the 1st week in november is the date to look for. not this oct 23 but im ok with being proved wrong lol. please excuse and grammer errors. the price should be $300- $400 with the rebate. its not the iphone so they are not going to make there money of volume. and if i remember correct it is a dark red color. i hope this was helpfull to someone cause i was excited when i saw it. though i played it cool. lol Thanks
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That's a loooong story... Here's mine:
Bought one on eBay, had it for 3 weeks, sold for $100 more than I paid, it was fun. The end.
yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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Jeez, don't get your panties in a bunch, loosen up a bit. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
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yes i have heard your story many times. i have been reading his site for a whole now. i was simply trying to give a full experience for those that care to read it. im sorry your attention span is limited. ill make my post shorter next time.
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I don't know if he was trying to be pejorative with his reply, but I enjoyed your long post and its little details.
I'm a bit disappointed with the ATT version of this phone from all accounts. There are really two big things for me. First, the top row of keys would be far more useful had it been left alone as numbers in my opinion. I'm sure I'll get used to it if I end up buying the Fuze, but it's still a disappointment.
The second issue is really just an annoyance, which may end up being completely null in the end. It's the Diamond back, and how prone to wobbling it seems it will be. However, without a tilting screen it is unlikely I would ever really be typing on it while on flat surface anyway (in fact, I normally pick up my Tilt to type even with the tilting screen). And ever since discovering Pocket Controller Pro I'm even less likely to even touch my phone while it's on my desk. So maybe the positives of the aesthetic Diamond back actually outweigh the probably minor negatives of its functionality.
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I don't know if he was trying to be pejorative with his reply, but I enjoyed your long post and its little details.
I'm a bit disappointed with the ATT version of this phone from all accounts. There are really two big things for me. First, the top row of keys would be far more useful had it been left alone as numbers in my opinion. I'm sure I'll get used to it if I end up buying the Fuze, but it's still a disappointment.
The second issue is really just an annoyance, which may end up being completely null in the end. It's the Diamond back, and how prone to wobbling it seems it will be. However, without a tilting screen it is unlikely I would ever really be typing on it while on flat surface anyway (in fact, I normally pick up my Tilt to type even with the tilting screen). And ever since discovering Pocket Controller Pro I'm even less likely to even touch my phone while it's on my desk. So maybe the positives of the aesthetic Diamond back actually outweigh the probably minor negatives of its functionality.
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It's odd, my Fuze actually sat on a table and stayed in one position, didn't lean either way, just sat there with the way the back was. I had no problems with it. Also, I'm surprised to see you didn't like the symbols on top, most people I've spoken with (myself included) like the functionality of the symbols. Oh well, to each their own.
Which store in Milford? I used to live there but i'm in college in NYC now. At the Post mall or next to the Starbucks and stuff?
yes the one in the mall. the one by starbuks had a guy that was going for the training but as far as i know there was no test phone at that store. which is weird cause that is the bigger store.
and also i did test typing with the diamond back and it in fact did wobble when typing on a flat surface. though ur right u probably would just hold it rather than type on a flat surface.
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Can you guys please tell me:
Did the phone make that shutter noise when you took a picture?
I find that noise annoying when using a camera.
thanks!
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Can you guys please tell me:
Did the phone make that shutter noise when you took a picture?
I find that noise annoying when using a camera.
thanks!
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Even if it does, you can remove it.
With 3rd party software or with a feature that is built-in?
There are countries passing out laws that a camera on a phone must make that noise so people in the area know a photo is being taken. I was just wondering if AT&T Fuze was on that list.
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With 3rd party software or with a feature that is built-in?
There are countries passing out laws that a camera on a phone must make that noise so people in the area know a photo is being taken. I was just wondering if AT&T Fuze was on that list.
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if the phone is on silent it wont or im sure you can do a tweak or registry change anyway
all right, thanks!
A friend of mine got the nokia n82 with a 5 MP camera. The problem that he finds with it is that the camera makes that noise through the speaker when he takes a picture with it. Even when his phone is on silent or when his headphones are plugged in. I don't think he's found a tweak for it yet.
I was just wondering if it was the same with the Fuze. If anyone who has it can confirm it, it will be greatly appreciated.
when "Joe" toke the picture for the business card it did make a flash sound. though i dont know if the feature can be turned off. but like posted before im sure someone here will be able to fix that no prob.
and on a side note has anyone got any new on the android OS working on the fuze.
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and if i remember correct it is a dark red color.
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Woah... I was unaware of this. The ATT Fuze is dark red in color? As in, not black but dark red or is that optional?
Damn, just googled Milford, CT, and it would be an hours drive... Guess I'll have to wait until release to play with the Fuze
P.S. To the guy with the camera questions, every HTC phone that I know of has had the option to turn off the camera sound...
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Woah... I was unaware of this. The ATT Fuze is dark red in color? As in, not black but dark red or is that optional?
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That's the same question I was about to ask. When you say dark red, do you mean as in the Blackjack II?
yes i do mean a dark red like the black jack II. it was ruby, dark burgundy color. i maybe mistaken cause i was blinded by the sole fact that i has the phone in my hand. lol
ill probably go look at i again this weekend or today. but i dont want to seem like that weird customer that comes in and never buys anything. i work sales and i hate that BS. lol
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It's odd, my Fuze actually sat on a table and stayed in one position, didn't lean either way, just sat there with the way the back was. I had no problems with it. Also, I'm surprised to see you didn't like the symbols on top, most people I've spoken with (myself included) like the functionality of the symbols. Oh well, to each their own.
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Well there are two reasons I would prefer the numbers. First of all, it's more like an actual computer keyboard. That would make it more comfortable and normal feeling - at least in theory. Second - and more importantly - I type numbers more often than I type symbols. Having the convenience of not needing to press the function key would be very nice.
I suppose it could go either way though. I'm definitely going to try out the keyboard before I buy, and I'll likely try out the Sprint version (or unlocked HTC version, if I can get my hands on one for a few minutes without purchasing it) also just to make sure. With a fifth row, I'm sure it's an improvement over the four rows on my Tilt no matter which configuration though, so it's not even close to a deal breaker. Just a little disappointment.
Out of curiosity, why would you prefer symbols? I really can't think of a reason why they would be better than numbers, so I'm wanting to know from someone who has that opinion.
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Well there are two reasons I would prefer the numbers. First of all, it's more like an actual computer keyboard. That would make it more comfortable and normal feeling - at least in theory. Second - and more importantly - I type numbers more often than I type symbols. Having the convenience of not needing to press the function key would be very nice.
I suppose it could go either way though. I'm definitely going to try out the keyboard before I buy, and I'll likely try out the Sprint version (or unlocked HTC version, if I can get my hands on one for a few minutes without purchasing it) also just to make sure. With a fifth row, I'm sure it's an improvement over the four rows on my Tilt no matter which configuration though, so it's not even close to a deal breaker. Just a little disappointment.
Out of curiosity, why would you prefer symbols? I really can't think of a reason why they would be better than numbers, so I'm wanting to know from someone who has that opinion.
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i think most people don't mind the number PAD because you can press Fn twice to do a number lock. And since the numbers are grouped together, theoretically it's easier to type series of numbers...ie. phone number
i didn't like the fact that 5th row # was removed (they added that 5th row for THAT REASON!), but then I can see other people's point as well...oh well, i've come to accept that fact, as long as Fuze doesn't make us wait any longer
It occurred to me that it may be possible to swap the keys from a Fuze with the keys from a Dummy Touch Pro in order to get a NAM GSM Touch Pro with the original layout. I remember playing with a CDMA Touch Pro dummy and the keys depressed like a regular keyboard. Normally I would order the service parts online, but there don't seem to be any available yet.
Note that I am talking about the physical layout. As you know it is easy to switch between Fuze and original layout in software.
Anyone care to comment on this idea?
Usually the parts on dummy devices won't work. As the cases aren't the real thing the few parts attach differently therefore would be problematic attaching to a real case.
Indeed, I would need to take the two apart to see how they compare. Most often keys are simply pieces of plastic that sit on either rubber or plastic and the functionality is not contained within the key itself.
I mean I could get little stickers to cover up the Fuze key symbols, but this may provide a fairly inexpensive (>$30) physical solution.
I'm also talking about taking the 60 or seventy keys and swapping them with the keys on the Fuze. It would require taking the keyboard completely apart.
OK, so I have obtained a Raphael service manual, so I should be able to disassemble it without destroying anything.
Am I the only one crazy enough to think this is worth while?
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OK, so I have obtained a Raphael service manual, so I should be able to disassemble it without destroying anything.
Am I the only one crazy enough to think this is worth while?
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If it does work, everyone will think you're a genius (and the cost of dummies will go through the roof). Make sure to let us know. The keyboard is my major annoyance with the FUZE. Why create a custom keyboard when everyone knows where the keys are on a QWERTY!
Just wanted to update this thread for historical purposes. Looks like I just had to give it some time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479273
Turns out the keyboard just sticks on. Had I went and purchased the dummy, I could very well have simply pulled off the keyboard and swapped it for the one on my Fuze. Buying the dummy would now be overkill since you can simply purchase the OEM keyboard for $10.
http://www.gsm4world.us/htc-touch-pro-htc-raphael-100-oem-inner-keyboard-d-02161_405.html
Cheers
I recently took apart my AT&T Tilt, actually, I took it apart about six times! (So, if anyone wants help and advice I can surely tell you how to do it).
The keyboard, certain keys have stopped working. The problem is some keys require firm presses started before I pulled the phone apart, but finally in the last pull apart, some keys stopped working altogether. I guess I just exacerbated or accelerated the deterioration of the keyboard.
I ripped out the keyboard (the qwerty keyboard, not the keypad on the front of the phone). The housing remains attached. After I did this, I read on xda that this is not what should have been done, because the keyboard itself is not the issue. I can verify this, because I now have the circuitry, for want of an apt description, lying underneath the keyboard exposed. When I depress those circuitry corresponding to the faulty letters on the keyboard that don't work, surprise, it doesn't work either, even though those circuits, respond in feedback as if I was depressing the keyboard. (I am wondering if ripping out the keyboard was a wise choice....................).
Prior to ripping out the keyboard, I pulled the phone apart and re-attached the keyboard membrane to the motherboard, so yes, I at least followed that procedure.
My conclusion is that I need a new keyboard with housing.
First question, would anyone concur with this conclusion? If not what could it be?
I am not having any luck finding just a keyboard with housing without having to pay astronomical amounts, i.e. prices allowing me to justify buying an iPhone! I have seen parts for sale in the xda marketplace. I have found a replacement keyboard and housing for a TyTnII/ Kaiser (from here https://www.gsm4world.us/htc-tytn-ii-p4550-oem-keyboard-w-flex-d-01433_297.html) , which I know has a different keyboard layout than the Tilt. However, this unit is for sale at a very competitive price and I am tempted to buy it.
Here's the challenge. I have a standard AT&T ROM. If I buy this keyboard, how do I get the keys to map correctly? I know that when I depress certain keys on this keyboard, it will respond as if it were an AT&T keyboard. If there is a keyboard driver I can load onto my Tilt that would be ideal. (I don't want to flash an entire ROM for the phone).
If anyone is aware of alternatives, such as a cheaper supply of AT&T Tilt keyboard with housing, or how to stick on a new keyboard and fix the non responding keys, I would be all ears. I have spent too many hours on this already, enough to justify buying a new phone outright!
Thanks all.
I changed my keyboard and I have orginal one I can trade my old one for reasonable price
Zombie.raised,
Can you confirm the keyboard is from an AT&T Tilt. If so, does it work? Do all the keys work?
I posted this as a question in an existing thread then realized that was a douche move, so here it goes:
As I was replacing a digitizer (which by the way is hell on this phone, so much adhesive ) I accidentally broke the tiny flex cable that connects to the navigation button. This was horrifically stupid considering the cable disconnects so easily, but I figured it was more efficient to leave it connected since I was working around it very well.
I contacted HTC, and they want me to send it in, which I find to be laughable since the part takes about a second to connect. The regular mytouch 4g button looks very similar in every way, except the flex cable is oriented in the other direction -- looking at the top of the button, the cable dips down and goes to the right versus the left on this phone. As it turns out, this is the most difficult part of the phone to find online! I failed to find it anywhere, and gave up after an hour on google.
So I am left with a dilemma:
1. Gamble and order the mytouch 4g button and try to twist it into submission, since the connectors are literally the same;
2. Find a broken mt4gs somewhere on the cheap. (hint hint, I check my PM's once in a while )
Hopefully a circuit like this would be a standard model, and HTC wouldn't need to change it.
Your thoughts? Any advice would be appreciated as this is a friend's phone, and while I have something (rooted) he can use, I feel like crap.
Thanks!
Well, here are my toughts:
Since the MyTouch button is fairly cheap, I would buy one and fight with it. It would great if it works, and there's really no reason they should have changed it.
I wonder why these navigation buttons are so hard to find?? I looked around too and couldn't find anything.
If you don't have an aversion to ebay, you can get parts phones there. Usually they have a trashed screen, or took a swim. The problem with the ones which someone decided needed a bath is that you really never know what parts are good. Don't these phones often have a problem with charging (that is, they plug in but now power). Those would be ideal for you because they work except for whatever is wrong with that charging.
Anyway, here's a search I started : http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cell-Phones..._dmpt=Cell_Phones&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=7000
I really hope you get this fixed. I can't help my friends with even the simplest of problems because I'm so afraid of making a tiny mistake. I'm glad you're a better friend than me. If the MyTouch button works be sure to write back!
If I remember right, there was a thread a while back about this. The regular MyTouch 4G buttons won't fit in it, unfortunately. The buttons are sized different.
Thanks for the replies!
I found it, FINALLY, after 2 hours of search engine hell. Had to not use Google for a change. The part is literally in one location on the internet I think, a site called mengtor.com... had to search for "trackpad replacement" instead of "navigation key".... and there is a $50 minimum. Sucks, but they also had a reasonable LCD/digitizer combo for the galaxy s 4g I needed, so it all worked out. I am swimming in broken phones and hand-me-downs
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