Pc connection to htc fuze - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Im new to windows mobile and i noticed that everytime i connect my fuze to the computer it indicates that it is charging, is there anyway that i can turn the "charging" off? because like this it kills the battery slowly.

peste19 said:
Im new to windows mobile and i noticed that everytime i connect my fuze to the computer it indicates that it is charging, is there anyway that i can turn the "charging" off? because like this it kills the battery slowly.
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are you sure about that? i thought all these batteries and phones nowdays, were quite good at managing this all by themselves....
we're really still in an age where us as users have to actively baby sit our batteries?

peste19 said:
Im new to windows mobile and i noticed that everytime i connect my fuze to the computer it indicates that it is charging, is there anyway that i can turn the "charging" off? because like this it kills the battery slowly.
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Are you meaning it kills the battery on your pc? (i assume its a laptop if thats the case)
There is an option in start>settings>system(tab)>power to stop charging when connected via USB.
Charging via USB is a great feature and im positive it doesnt DRAIN the battery on your fuze?

mrvanx said:
Are you meaning it kills the battery on your pc? (i assume its a laptop if thats the case)
There is an option in start>settings>system(tab)>power to stop charging when connected via USB.
Charging via USB is a great feature and im positive it doesnt DRAIN the battery on your fuze?
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i thought perhaps he was under some sort of misconception that the battery on the FUZE keeps charging even after its full while plugged into USB, and this somehow 'damages' the FUZE battery, or slowly 'kills it' ... ur interpretation makes more sense though

Orbitrix said:
i thought perhaps he was under some sort of misconception that the battery on the FUZE keeps charging even after its full while plugged into USB, and this somehow 'damages' the FUZE battery, or slowly 'kills it' ... ur interpretation makes more sense though
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I thought so as well, I thought that the Fuze would stop the charging once full but I am not positive. I know most of my las Li-On devices still suffered from burnout but none were as fancy as the Fuze.
Makes sense that it could have just been draining his laptop faster though

i was referring to the battery of the phone, before baterries used to suffer i think the term is called "memory effect" which caused the batteries after a while hold the charge for less time, this was caused by always charging when not needed.
they say that the new batteries dont suffer so much this "memory effect" but from my experience that is not true

peste19 said:
i was referring to the battery of the phone, before baterries used to suffer i think the term is called "memory effect" which caused the batteries after a while hold the charge for less time, this was caused by always charging when not needed.
they say that the new batteries dont suffer so much this "memory effect" but from my experience that is not true
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Lithium-ion batteries do not suffer the "memory effect" that the older batteries do. They also do not need to be drained fully a few time when you first get them to condition the battery. Draining the battery fully actually is bad for the lithium ion batteries and can significantly effect the life of the battery itself.
The original question has been answered already, and the information regarding the batteries is already available elsewhere so i am closing this thread.

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Connect the charger without battery

Is it possible to connect charger without battery so that i can use device all day and avoid over-charge or possible battery damage?
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"Is there a way that i can use my Phone without connection so that i will have no bill charges ?"
Batteries in Tornado can (even should) be charged often Don't worry about it
Yeah, over-charging is no problem. It'll stop charging when it's full.
This does raise an interesting question, one I haven't really bothered to try but have just now become curious about. Can you plug the phone into the wall, sans battery, and use the phone still? Or will it only function, plugged in or not, with the battery installed?
Phone turns off when you get battery out :/
djsleepwalker said:
Yeah, over-charging is no problem. It'll stop charging when it's full.
This does raise an interesting question, one I haven't really bothered to try but have just now become curious about. Can you plug the phone into the wall, sans battery, and use the phone still? Or will it only function, plugged in or not, with the battery installed?
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LOL, I just tried that last night, and... ohh Noo it don't even turn the power light on w/o a battery... so @Amaric: Keep charging it!
I am aware that phone is not working if you take out the battery and connect it to a charger. I was wondering if there is some kind of a workaround.
My plan was to have phone switched on for months with wireles ON too. That just can't be good for battery and it could even be dangerous.
amaric said:
I am aware that phone is not working if you take out the battery and connect it to a charger. I was wondering if there is some kind of a workaround.
My plan was to have phone switched on for months with wireles ON too. That just can't be good for battery and it could even be dangerous.
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Do these tests, and post results
Turn off power savings on Wi-Fi and leave phone ON, doing something over the internet, just idling, so that the LCD is off. Say for example: acting as router.
Conditions:
1. Phone w/full battery -
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How long did he battery last? How did the phone temperature change? What would you guess would happen in 48hrs of usage?
EDIT: My experience with Wi-Fi is that it drains more power than the charger output. Temperature raises substantianlly w/o LCD, gets extreamly hot w/LCD on. So what would be the options?
wird
when im booting linux and the phone is charging you can take the battery out but the phone will still be on nice
bestever said:
when im booting linux and the phone is charging you can take the battery out but the phone will still be on nice
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Is this a joke? If not, then some change to a software (OS) could do the trick.
amaric said:
Is this a joke? If not, then some change to a software (OS) could do the trick.
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my opinion? If it does stay on after removing the battery, then it'll do the same if you have the phone on while running Windows, and charging and remove the battery. Battery charging is not handled by OS, its handled by Hardware.
markanthonypr said:
My experience with Wi-Fi is that it drains more power than the charger output.
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Does anyone else think this is true? I think it would be unlikely that having the screen off but wifi on would use more power than the wall adapter provides.
I suspect that you could jumper the battery connections to mimic a full battery, but I am not going to try.
I think you can put resistors to mimic the internal resistance of a battery, but I wouldn't recommend it. If anything goes wrong you might burn out the charging/power control circuit which probably would turn your phone to a brick.
Oh, and the whether it charges when plugged in and using WiFi depends on your charger. I've got a 6V 2.4A (15W) charger for my phone, good luck using up all that juice with a Tornado. That thing easily charges my TyTN with HSDPA (3G), WiFi, Bluetooth and screen active.
15W is more or less what my laptop uses under normal load

[REQ] An app to manage the battery charging for the HD2?

Hello everybody, I own an HD2 that is alway connected to a table cradle (connected via USB to a PC) during the day when I'm in Office. I wonder if exist an app that allows to manage the battery charging: I explain...I'd like that the HD2 AUTOMATICALLY "turns off" the charging when the battery is fully charged at 100% and automatically "turns it on" again when the battery charge reaches a given threshold (60-50-40% or something like that). If you own an IBM/Lenovo Laptop I'd like something like the power managment app. Of course the data syncronization HAVE ALWAYS TO STAY TURNED ON regardless the chargin of the battery.
Does it exist somehing like that?
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Andrea
There is a setting that allows for the battery not to recharge when connected to a PC. Other than that, I completely fail to see what would be the purpose of what you are asking.
pedmond said:
There is a setting that allows for the battery not to recharge when connected to a PC. Other than that, I completely fail to see what would be the purpose of what you are asking.
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thanks for your answer! I already know the setting you're talking about, but as I told early I'd like something that manages this setting automatically. The purpose is to avoid the decreasing of the battery lifetime caused by letting the battery itself "always" connected to a charging source. For example in the Laptop PCs it's better to unplug the battery when the laptop is conncted to an external power source/charging unit...
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Andrea
the dragonlord said:
thanks for your answer! I already know the setting you're talking about, but as I told early I'd like something that manages this setting automatically. The purpose is to avoid the decreasing of the battery lifetime caused by letting the battery itself "always" connected to a charging source. For example in the Laptop PCs it's better to unplug the battery when the laptop is conncted to an external power source/charging unit...
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Andrea
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Most modern devices (and, I believe the HD2) actually disconnect charging when the battery is at 100%. The green light doesn't mean that your HD2 is still charging, but that it's at 100%. Therefore I don't believe you actually shorten the battery life by keeping it plugged in.
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Most modern devices (and, I believe the HD2) actually disconnect charging when the battery is at 100%.
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I did believe it too but I have an app wich monitors the battery temperature and still when the battery charge is 100% its temperature remains "high" (35 grades degrees) as long as I keep the device plugged to the cradle. I see the same temperature value when the battery is actually charging...this fact have made me change my mind about the fact that the HD2 disconnect charghing when 100% is reached...
Its not the battery which is getting hot, it's the phone.
If I had a lithium-poly/ion battery that was reaching 35C I'd be very worried!
If your app is showing the battery at 35C, turn the phone off, remove the battery and it should be cool to the touch.
If it's hot then you have a problem.
xaccers said:
Its not the battery which is getting hot, it's the phone.
If I had a lithium-poly/ion battery that was reaching 35C I'd be very worried!
If your app is showing the battery at 35C, turn the phone off, remove the battery and it should be cool to the touch.
If it's hot then you have a problem.
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you're right, it's the device, not the battery....I'll throw away the temp app!!!
the dragonlord said:
you're right, it's the device, not the battery....I'll throw away the temp app!!!
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Heat will decrease the life expectancy of the battery, but so will deep charging rather than top ups, remember with non-NiCd batteries you don't get memory effect, so the only reason to do a deep charge is to recalibrate the software battery meter.
Of course leaving the battery sitting on a shelf will also degrade it's capacity, they start to degrade as soon as they're produced, so buying a spare and not using it until your original battery dies is not a good idea, better to buy a replacement battery when the original starts failing.
HTC's batteries actually seem very reasonably priced too which is refreshing.

Charging the battery

Do you only use the HTC charger that came with your phone? MicroUSB is MicroUSB and it will charge from any charger BUT I have heard that different milliamp chargers can cause undesired effects in the battery (of any phone) such as decreased lifespan or less battery life in the short term. Any truth to this? Only reason I ask is because A) I'm curious and B) I got my Sensation yesterday, charged it with the stock charger at work but left it by mistake. When I got home, I charged it with another charger I had lying around. After 8 hrs off the charger, I had dropped from 100% to 99% (awesome). I then made a phone call this morning for 6m and used the display for 15m and it dropped to 94%. I then left it in my pocket for another hour and it dropped to 90%. I don't get it! :-(
Two separate issues here:
hah2110 said:
Do you only use the HTC charger that came with your phone? MicroUSB is MicroUSB and it will charge from any charger BUT I have heard that different milliamp chargers can cause undesired effects in the battery (of any phone) such as decreased lifespan or less battery life in the short term. Any truth to this?
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The official HTC charger is 5V 1A. Some other chargers, such as car lighter chargers and USB ports only give out 0.5A, so charging takes much, much longer. In fact, if you use a 5V 0.5A charger whilst continuously using the phone for something battery-intensive like sat-nav, the charge will still drop, but not as fast as if it were not charging at all. You'll get a warning on the phone something along the lines of "the charger is not sufficient to charge the phone and use it at the same time" (can't remember the exact wording). make sure you use 5V 1A.
hah2110 said:
Only reason I ask is because A) I'm curious and B) I got my Sensation yesterday, charged it with the stock charger at work but left it by mistake. When I got home, I charged it with another charger I had lying around. After 8 hrs off the charger, I had dropped from 100% to 99% (awesome). I then made a phone call this morning for 6m and used the display for 15m and it dropped to 94%. I then left it in my pocket for another hour and it dropped to 90%. I don't get it! :-(
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There are a few threads discussing this already.
sjgore said:
Two separate issues here:
The official HTC charger is 5V 1A. Some other chargers, such as car lighter chargers and USB ports only give out 0.5A, so charging takes much, much longer. In fact, if you use a 5V 0.5A charger whilst continuously using the phone for something battery-intensive like sat-nav, the charge will still drop, but not as fast as if it were not charging at all. You'll get a warning on the phone something along the lines of "the charger is not sufficient to charge the phone and use it at the same time" (can't remember the exact wording). make sure you use 5V 1A.
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This much I know. But they aren't all 1a. My old Defy charger was like .8 and this is 1a. I'm not referring to charge times. I pointed out your GPS point to an OP in another thread. I'm referring to if using a different MA charger effects the quality of the battery or how long it can run on a charge.
There are a few threads discussing this already.
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Conclusions?
How many amps can one charge at?
I see car charger product that claim to output at 1a, 2.1a, even 5a.
Then I see that it may not matter what the output of the device is: that unless the cable you use to charge shorts the center two pins together, you will only get .5a.
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I've always understood that a "trickle charge" or a slower charge is better. I only charge via usb for this reason. It takes much longer to charge, but supposedly it charges the battery in a better way and it will discharge slower.
Any truth to the battery conditioning tips I've seen about letting the battery charge and drain 3 times completely when new? I have read that these lithium batteries dont require that but I keep seeing conflicting info.
GorillaPimp said:
Any truth to the battery conditioning tips I've seen about letting the battery charge and drain 3 times completely when new? I have read that these lithium batteries dont require that but I keep seeing conflicting info.
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In addition to that, I'm curious on how you all charged your phone the first time. I want to make sure that I do it right when I get my Sensation.
So where are these battery drain threads?
kevin2sick said:
In addition to that, I'm curious on how you all charged your phone the first time. I want to make sure that I do it right when I get my Sensation.
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I used the wall charger initially but then switched to USB which actually seemed to work faster. I used my N1 charger earlier.
Anyone going to advise on battery drain? Losing 4-5%/hr idle. No, it isn't an app.
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Anyone going to advise on battery drain? Losing 4-5%/hr idle. No, it isn't an app.
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How did you verify what's draining it?
GorillaPimp said:
How did you verify what's draining it?
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HuH????????
hah2110 said:
HuH????????
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How can you be so sure that it's not a rogue app?
I get a drain of about 2% an hour. That's with wi-fi on, google syncing, and twitter and facebook updating every hour.
sjgore said:
How can you be so sure that it's not a rogue app?
I get a drain of about 2% an hour. That's with wi-fi on, google syncing, and twitter and facebook updating every hour.
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Because I had no apps installed that would do that, there is nothing in battery use, etc. 2%/hour is high for the sensation.
hah2110 said:
Because I had no apps installed that would do that, there is nothing in battery use, etc. 2%/hour is high for the sensation.
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There are apps and processes that are part of the system that can drain power like that. Having a bad signal and constantly dropping connections can run down your battery. Did you pick up watchdog for free on amazon yesterday? That can tell you more about what is using the cpu.
hah2110 said:
Because I had no apps installed that would do that
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Well that's okay then. I was stupid enough to think you might have used something such as System Panel or Current Widget from the Market to actually verify the battery drain and the tasks/apps that were responsible.
hah2110 said:
2%/hour is high for the sensation.
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High? My HTC Desire drained 1.75% per hour with CM7, so 2% for a dual-core phone running HTC Sense is pretty impressive, IMHO.
sjgore said:
Well that's okay then. I was stupid enough to think you might have used something such as System Panel or Current Widget from the Market to actually verify the battery drain and the tasks/apps that were responsible.
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I could do that, but they generally don't report too much.
High? My HTC Desire drained 1.75% per hour with CM7, so 2% for a dual-core phone running HTC Sense is pretty impressive, IMHO.
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If you read up on the reviews, you will see that the Sensation has achieved <1%/hr drain with items syncing.
Im really anal and I dont open my phones accessories if I dont have to lol. I have been using a spare MT4G charger and its working fine. It is rated at 1 Amp like the factory Sensation charger is though.
For those wondering, as slow as these batteries discharge you will probably not see any gains in performance when you trickle charge a battery (for example over USB) over using the stock charger. It is recommended you fully charge the battery and fully discharge it the first time you use it. The battery life will get better after a couple cycles, yes they need to be "broken in". Like all rechargeable batteries they will degrade over time, it is inevitable. Since OEM batteries are so cheap these days I personally dont go too far out of my way to "properly" charge and discharge my battery. It will die when it dies, at that time I will just buy a new battery.

New device, how to deal with charge

Hi there, I own a Nexus 5 recently. The phone arrives soon and by everyone is know that battery comes with some charge. Should I leave discharge the battery complete and then charge back or how is this procedure in order to not kill the battery and gain a good calibration?
I have an extra question, is there any problem for battery if I leave the USB cable connected all the time even if battery is full?
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Just charge it, don't fully discharge it and use it normally. You don't need to worry about calibrating
jd1639 said:
Just charge it, don't fully discharge it and use it normally. You don't need to worry about calibrating
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You can use as normal..I normally drain it.
And in general, when dealing with lithium ion batteries, leaving them plugged in excessively when fully charged kills the battery in the long run
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You can use as normal..I normally drain it.
And in general, when dealing with lithium ion batteries, leaving them plugged in excessively when fully charged kills the battery in the long run
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Bad form on both counts. Li-ON batteries shouldn't be deep discharged. They have built in circuitry to prevent ACTUAL 0% (they shut down before getting to real 0%) but still not good to run it down to 5% all the time.
Unless you have some crappy charger & phone, the IC in the phone will instruct the charger to kill power when it's full so leaving it plugged in all the time wont make a difference - this is for a phone.
This is not the same and not for the same reasons in laptops. Reason it's not so good is if your laptop has crappy cooling system or like some people need it on "Performance" all the time because they don't want their CPUs "slowing them down". As a result of the heat from the system now going into idle state, the battery lifespan degrades. This is where your "plugged in all the time" stance comes from but it's not valid with all applications.
shotta35 said:
Bad form on both counts. Li-ON batteries shouldn't be deep discharged. They have built in circuitry to prevent ACTUAL 0% (they shut down before getting to real 0%) but still not good to run it down to 5% all the time.
Unless you have some crappy charger & phone, the IC in the phone will instruct the charger to kill power when it's full so leaving it plugged in all the time wont make a difference - this is for a phone.
This is not the same and not for the same reasons in laptops. Reason it's not so good is if your laptop has crappy cooling system or like some people need it on "Performance" all the time because they don't want their CPUs "slowing them down". As a result of the heat from the system now going into idle state, the battery lifespan degrades. This is where your "plugged in all the time" stance comes from but it's not valid with all applications.
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Well very true, and I have an electronics background, so I know what works and what's alright. Discharging it is fine.
Thanks to all of yours I'll learn something new and now I know how to handle battery lifetime for best
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Actually Shotta35 is 100% correct with regards to deep discharges and li-ion batteries. There is a write up I did in 2012 about battery care from a hardware prospective in my sig, and it has nothing to do with battery memory. teh roxxorz is also right about leaving batteries plugged in for extended periods of time. More energy = more heat = shorter lifesan.

IF the Lithium-ion battery in my phone was to die, would it still work plugged in?

A theoretical question... IF the Lithium-ion battery in any modern phone or tablet etc was to completely die, would it still work plugged in?
But more importantly I want to know IF the battery in my phone was being completely dead right now, because of wear and tear and charging it alot, could I still use my phone with a micro USB powerpack/battery bank constantly connected to it?
Thanks
simonwela said:
A theoretical question... IF the Lithium-ion battery in any modern phone or tablet etc was to completely die, would it still work plugged in?
But more importantly I want to know IF the battery in my phone was being completely dead right now, because of wear and tear and charging it alot, could I still use my phone with a micro USB powerpack/battery bank constantly connected to it?
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generally speaking, no and no.
bweN diorD said:
generally speaking, no and no.
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Alright. But I guess if there's like 10% of the capacity of the battery left, like a couple years from now, it could work maybe? If you have a phone with a non-changeable battery.
It is possible bro
Like the above said, if the battery is not completely dead and has some capacity left, it will work. But it case the battery is completely dead it will not.
simonwela said:
Alright. But I guess if there's like 10% of the capacity of the battery left, like a couple years from now, it could work maybe? If you have a phone with a non-changeable battery.
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yes, if there is any battery left it will work, but you asked if it were possible if the battery was "completely dead", in which case my answer of no is accurate.
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It is possible bro
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if the battery is "completely dead", no, its not.
If battery is 100% dead then.
Grab a charger and multiply the current written on it with 100.
If the value is somewatn very close ro the battery mAh then that charget could so the trick.
And charger above 1.8A is really hard to get. So to charge bayteries more than 2000mAh can be hard.
Who knows what will work try out the method with 2800mAh . may be it works
droid_god said:
If battery is 100% dead then.
Grab a charger and multiply the current written on it with 100.
If the value is somewatn very close ro the battery mAh then that charget could so the trick.
And charger above 1.8A is really hard to get. So to charge bayteries more than 2000mAh can be hard.
Who knows what will work try out the method with 2800mAh . may be it works
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your help is appreciated, but you shouldnt comment on such things you know nothing about.
i can get chargers over 1.8a all day no problem.
im not sure what you are trying to explain with all the charger vs battery stuff, but there was no question of an adequate charger.
you seem to be suggesting charging at a higher rate will some how revive a dead battery.
thats just not true. if the battery is dead from reaching the end of its life span as the op suggests in his query, it can not be revived.
further more, you could use a 1,000,000mah charger and it would do or fix nothing.
as long as the charger used can output the amount required by the phone, it doesnt matter how big the charger is beyond that.
there is a charging circuit in all devices that regulate the rate the batteries charge to prevent damage to the battery or device.
chargers dont push out the a or ma listed on them, that value of amperage is the maximum that can be pulled from it.
bweN diorD said:
yes, if there is any battery left it will work, but you asked if it were possible if the battery was "completely dead", in which case my answer of no is accurate.
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I understand. Thanks for the answer!
I have an old laptop (like 10 years old), that has a completely dead battery and won't boot if it isn't plugged in, but it does work when it's plugged in, so I thought that maybe it would be the same thing here, but of course not, it makes sense that it's different.
But even with a new, modern phone, I guess it would be hard to completely kill the battery, even when charging it alot?
I mean, even if I would charge it 2 times everyday for 5 years, maybe it would still have some percent left of it's battery capacity, maybe 10% or something, and then it would work.
simonwela said:
I understand. Thanks for the answer!
I have an old laptop (like 10 years old), that has a completely dead battery and won't boot if it isn't plugged in, but it does work when it's plugged in, so I thought that maybe it would be the same thing here, but of course not, it makes sense that it's different.
But even with a new, modern phone, I guess it would be hard to completely kill the battery, even when charging it alot?
I mean, even if I would charge it 2 times everyday for 5 years, maybe it would still have some percent left of it's battery capacity, maybe 10% or something, and then it would work.
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its fairly rare to see a battery go completely dead from just being worn out. usually users will replace it when it gets to some point of limited usefulness.
sure some times they die from defect, and some times they die from users running down until 0 and the phone shuts off.
the latter trips a safety in the battery and makes it all but useless. this can be fixed, but thats another discussion.
i dont know how laptop batteries work with respect to charge.
phones though, i have seen from experience. when the battery is completely dead the phone will not start even plugged in, until it takes a small amount of charge, to be able to sustain the device on the battery while charging.
as long as your battery can sustain this minimal amount of charge, it should work while plugged in.
there really is no way to tell if, or how long, it will be able to maintain this low charge state. any stress on the battery from heavy use is likely to cause it to shut off until it reaches the minimum threshold again.
also when the battery is this weak, its possible for some sort of internal fault, resulting in the loss of ability to accept even the smallest of charge.
if your battery gets to this weak state, its best to just get a new one. even if its a cheap knock off that doesnt work as good as the old one used to. at least you will have something to work with, and not be worried from day to day if it will work or not.
i hope this clears things up for you
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its fairly rare to see a battery go completely dead from just being worn out. usually users will replace it when it gets to some point of limited usefulness.
sure some times they die from defect, and some times they die from users running down until 0 and the phone shuts off.
the latter trips a safety in the battery and makes it all but useless. this can be fixed, but thats another discussion.
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Oh, that's good to know.
And I'm not so worried about that, I never let my phone drop below 10% and most often I charge it when it hits 20% and charge it up to 90%. I believe that's the best for the battery.
I am kinda regretting now that I bought a Xperia Z5C though, I don't like that the battery isn't changeable. But it's a great phone other than that, so I think it will be okay. And the battery is quite high capacity so I hope that it will work fine for at least 3 years, even if I charge it daily.
ETA: Interestingly, I had a Xperia Z1 before this phone, and I had the Z1 for a litte more than 2 years, and charged it almost everyday, and the battery on it was fine, or more than that, it was Good, I was getting 4-5 hours screen time on a charge just a month ago.. So??? I shouldn't be worrying about this anymore and instead enjoy my new phone
bweN diorD said:
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It did! Thank you.
simonwela said:
Oh, that's good to know.
And I'm not so worried about that, I never let my phone drop below 10% and most often I charge it when it hits 20% and charge it up to 90%. I believe that's the best for the battery.
I am kinda regretting now that I bought a Xperia Z5C though, I don't like that the battery isn't changeable. But it's a great phone other than that, so I think it will be okay. And the battery is quite high capacity so I hope that it will work fine for at least 3 years, even if I charge it daily.
ETA: Interestingly, I had a Xperia Z1 before this phone, and I had the Z1 for a litte more than 2 years, and charged it almost everyday, and the battery on it was fine, or more than that, it was Good, I was getting 4-5 hours screen time on a charge just a month ago.. So??? I shouldn't be worrying about this anymore and instead enjoy my new phone
It did! Thank you.
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many users run the phone to 0 often without issue, but its really a horrible thing to do. there are many documented cases of it not turning on any more, however likely small compared to the amount of times its done. i was just making the facts known that the safety is there, and there is a risk of tripping it.
the problem would be compounded on a sealed phone, as the only fix requires you to take the battery out.
your charging cycle is very good for getting the max life from your battery :good: not too low and not too high.
many will argue this, and claim the benefit is very small, but according to the experts at battery university, not too low and not too high is the best way to get max life from these types of batteries. it keeps the stress levels while charging out of the highest ranges.
simonwela said:
I understand. Thanks for the answer!
I have an old laptop (like 10 years old), that has a completely dead battery and won't boot if it isn't plugged in, but it does work when it's plugged in, so I thought that maybe it would be the same thing here, but of course not, it makes sense that it's different.
But even with a new, modern phone, I guess it would be hard to completely kill the battery, even when charging it alot?
I mean, even if I would charge it 2 times everyday for 5 years, maybe it would still have some percent left of it's battery capacity, maybe 10% or something, and then it would work.
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Laptop chargers are a bit different from the android chargers.
Laptop chargers are designed to handel heavy charges which charges the battery at at its rated voltage. Like a 12volt laptop charger will charge a 12volt battery. Thats why with battery dead charger can handel all the work.
Android is a bit different.
Its chargers are rated of higher voltagea than battery.
Thats a good thing because at higher voltages we requir less ampere of current per hour to charge it.
I mean to say in previous post that if you grab a charger for your device just pullout the battery and use any other device battery for first boot. And when it start booting then you can just remove that battery and device will run on chrger.
droid_god said:
Laptop chargers are a bit different from the android chargers.
Laptop chargers are designed to handel heavy charges which charges the battery at at its rated voltage. Like a 12volt laptop charger will charge a 12volt battery. Thats why with battery dead charger can handel all the work.
Android is a bit different.
Its chargers are rated of higher voltagea than battery.
Thats a good thing because at higher voltages we requir less ampere of current per hour to charge it.
I mean to say in previous post that if you grab a charger for your device just pullout the battery and use any other device battery for first boot. And when it start booting then you can just remove that battery and device will run on chrger.
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all batteries charge at a higher rate than they are rated at, phone, laptop, car, doesnt matter.
if they didnt, they would take a very long time to reach full charge, and could only do so if not being used.
i would like to see some proof that a phone will stay on booted, with no battery. post some links for me to review please.
I have done it i will send you a video ok
What about cpuZ?!
SofianeBlade said:
What about cpuZ?!
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"what about" you read the forum rules, particularly the part that says not to spam threads with off topic posts.

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