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Having fixed my SMS problem, I now have another question.
Should the GPS work out of the box? I have added the googlemaps app but can't seem to pull up my location.
Should I try hard reboot? Any suggestions on how to get this working?
No, don't try a hard reset. First download the satellite updates from Quick GPS and then your device should pick up a GPS signal.
I had to set mine to com port 4 before it worked. Any slow baud rate seems to work.
My first fix took me over 20 minutes, now it's faster, but nothing compared with my HTC 3300.
Yer the GPS takes the longest to get the first fix...same with most devices....if its been offline for a while again it takes a little longer.
For example my holux bt321 says it will get a fix in 6 seconds....but the first fix was around 4 minutes.
On the Touch Pro I also had the same problem, I switched to the GPD1 port (???) and then I got a fix in Google Maps. The location indicated was a good 100 - 200 meters away from where I was though, so could the GPS be wrong? I had already downloaded the QuickGPS data before leaving the house 15 minutes earlier, so that should not be the issue.
What are the GPD ports anyways? On which port does/should the internal GPS communicate with WM6.1 / GoogleMaps?
Also, is there somewhere to enable or disable the GPS in the first place (not in the navigation software that is?)
What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
Use the attached program to test the GPS.
It will search COM ports automatically
But I guess you can know the port from the settings tabs "External GPS" icon if it's like Kaiser
Anyway, I will be of further use in like 4 days
pjmiebach said:
What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
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ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
Great that it works
You need at least 4 though to get a fix
Kindly, post your radio info and your location and let me know how many satellites did you view (press up on dpad as the 1st screen shows only upto 8 and it can see more, hopefully)
pjmiebach said:
ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
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posting the number of satelites you receive is a bit pointless.
This will depend on many factors such as
1) The number of sats viewable at any given time in your area (the sats are not geostationary and therefore move around)
2) The location of the sats during the test - some could be close to the horizon and therefore have a week signal
3) Weather conditions, cloud rain etc,
4) Terrain
etc
etc
Basically, you are right.
But if you are fast enough, you can test several radios in the same 10 mins.
And you can judge by testing in the same place which radio is better for GPS (Fix & View).
A mention of your location will be a referrence for others.
There's a thread with more radio fuss to hold such info to be useful in the future.
Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
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Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
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errr It worked find with TOMTOM7 after taking like 15 min to find it's first fix. Never tried Google maps yet cause my data plan doesn't start until the 8th of Sept.
you can start google maps and check in the right menu for gps and tap that one so it uses the internal gps instead of internetconnection.
it is also a good idea to goto connectionsettings and wipe all existing connections as activesync wont require these and you can download them later from the provider website or by running the carriersetup
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
TT7 and google maps
My tt7 takes 2 - 3 minutes to get a fix.
Google maps takes about 10 secs.
If i start tt7 right after i used gm it takes about 20 secs to get a fix.
I'm gonna try gpsgate and changing the baudrate a bit, see if it helps.
I'll let you know.
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GPSGate does the trick for me.
Buy it at your fav appstore and create a new virtual com port for all NMEA progs, go to tt7 gps settings select other nmea device, select the com you just created, at max speed.
com port problem
atreidae said:
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
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My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
mzperxfl said:
My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
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Me too! :-( No, I really do not enjoy hard resets...
Another nice GPS testing software is VisualGPSce. Be sure to get that.
I wonder if the problem was with QuickGPS. VisualGPSce was telling me that it "saw" 11 satellites, but wasn't able to lock onto any of them. I know that it had worked previously, but then I had a couple of days break and QuickGPS had updated it's data during that time. After the Hard Reset, I haven't used QuickGPS.
About the performance... seems to get fix quite fast, but looses them very easily too. I tracked today a half hour buss ride and I frequently lost the connection. (Sure it was not the most optimal situation...). Also the accuracy wasn't that good - well, either the GPS or Google Maps. actually VisualGPS showed that the GPS wasn't very accurate in following what was happening. The velocity would go to 0 only about 10 seconds after the buss had stopped at trafic lights or buss stop. Actually the buss frequently took of before the GPS showed us stopped. And then it was extremely slow on catching up. On Google Maps you could see the dot still advancing when the buss had stopped for that 10 seconds. Completely off the road - but that might as well be Googles error.
I do not have TomTom on this, but certainly the speed accuracy from VisualGPSce is not nearly as accurate as my TomTom 720.
Check also that the assisted GPS is not active.
If this option is actived, you lose the signal each x seconds.
To check this option I use Advanced config.
Note : I've a Diamond and one Raphael, same configuration, the Diamond find a fix into 40sec and the Raphael takes sometimes 5min!!!.
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as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
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i find this to be true as well but the kaiser gps radio worked far better than this touch pro in every app I tried. I can put the TP in my car window and get a signal with random disconnects but if i put it in my lap i cant get anything. I could put the kaiser in my trun and be fine lol. Hopefully some upgrades to the radio software will be coming soon. Same result with me with .19 and .31
Hello,
I tested GPSTuner 5.4, VisualGPS, GoogleMaps and TomTom 7 and I have a strange problem... I installed thos programs after hard reset to be sure...
In the GPS information window the GPS position changes but the speed is always 0km/h and in TomTom or GoogleMaps my position on the map don't move...
Have you seens this problem ?
Any kind of solution ?
PLZ....
PS :
Where can I find rom &Radio version ?
What is your TomTom 7 version ?
Hello All..
this is my first post. I just received my TP today via Vodafone. I havwe sucessfully loaded on TomTom 6 and I have it working with the TT external GPS receiver.
can someone advise me whether the Touch Pro's internal GPS will work and if so, how do I go about setting it up.
PS, I only see 4 options in TT6, and none say internal.
Thanks in advance for any assistance
hello,
I have my tp for a while now, but didn't use much gps. now i tried google maps and tt7, but it takes up to 10-15 min. to get a fix. How is this possible?? I updated the latest quickgps, but nothing....??
thnx!
HardSPL your phone
Try another Radio
*huh*?
fireblade63 said:
Try another Radio
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How is another radio supposed to fix this problem?! Afaik, the GPS-Receiption has nothing to do with the GSM-Radio nor its firmware....it isnt even controllable by software.
Radios will make a difference with your GSM/DATA strength, GPS reception, Camera smoothness, WiFi, and battery life.
This is what I've been living with for the past year with my Kaiser (and alot more members over there too).
Trying out radios along with ROMs to see which is the best mix.
Radios are not only firmware for the radio chip, it is for all what I have mentioned above, even sound in some cases would disappear.
Just don't forget to HardSPL your device.
You could also try GPSGate to aid GPS fast fix.
Monarch73 said:
How is another radio supposed to fix this problem?! Afaik, the GPS-Receiption has nothing to do with the GSM-Radio nor its firmware....it isnt even controllable by software.
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Work around
Hey,
I was reading the tread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420933
I have the same problem, tt7 takes about 3 mins to get a fix.
Right after i use googlemaps (which gets fix in 10 secs) i start tt7, then it gets a fix in 20 secs.
Now i've installed GPSGate, created a new virtual com port with it and set tt7 to that port. Now I have no issues with tt7
Yeah, GPSGate work like a charm
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Hey,
I was reading the tread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420933
I have the same problem, tt7 takes about 3 mins to get a fix.
Right after i use googlemaps (which gets fix in 10 secs) i start tt7, then it gets a fix in 20 secs.
Now i've installed GPSGate, created a new virtual com port with it and set tt7 to that port. Now I have no issues with tt7
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Whats GPSGate? Why do you need to run it with tt7? Not sure what its used for. DOes it give faster connection?
oh great, so in other words. to get a function working reliably that should be doing it out of the box on these pricey phones, we have to spend more dosh to get it working.
my gps also works like cack... yes i have tried all the radios..
guess i am another sucker who has to go buy gps gate...
I bought gspgate, and now? what do I need to do?
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oh great, so in other words. to get a function working reliably that should be doing it out of the box on these pricey phones, we have to spend more dosh to get it working.
my gps also works like cack... yes i have tried all the radios..
guess i am another sucker who has to go buy gps gate...
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This is so stupid!!! I'm very angry with HTC. Don't they test in real life their products?!??! Damn it....
i think it is related to powersaving or the gps driver itself is bugging
when you turn off the phone and turn it back on and wait for like 5 minutes to get the gps doing its cold start it works fine. Then i quit tt7 and start it again .. still works fine.. 10 minutes later the phone suspends and i wake it up and suddenly there is no gps. then it finds a gps device and then it finds sattelites and then it got a fix (after way to long time) and then right when it fixes it looses the gps device ..
conclusion: this is has to be some powersaving which makes the gps device doing a cold start again while it is started allready.
i also noticed when you start quickgps and then exit it and go to tomtom it suddenly finds all preloaded sattelites ...
when running advconfig3 the assisted gps is turned off by default and i turned it on. Im going to put it back to default to see if it makes a difference
RayB said:
oh great, so in other words. to get a function working reliably that should be doing it out of the box on these pricey phones, we have to spend more dosh to get it working.
my gps also works like cack... yes i have tried all the radios..
guess i am another sucker who has to go buy gps gate...
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maybe because it is a separate gps receiver... got nothing to do with radio rom nor driver.. the gps has his own..
i also think that, we have to wait for a new gps driver
This really does suck and shame on HTC
yeah, I sold my tytn 2 because of all the problems... now history repeats...
now I do have gps gate, and it sucks even more, what do I need to do, to get it better?
da_jojo said:
maybe because it is a separate gps receiver... got nothing to do with radio rom nor driver.. the gps has his own..
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I just stuck the bit in about trying the radios etc because that is what so many people seem to think has an effect on the operation of the handset. If it has nothing to do with the GPS then so be it.
Does not change the fact that it works like cack....
da_jojo said:
i think it is related to powersaving or the gps driver itself is bugging
when you turn off the phone and turn it back on and wait for like 5 minutes to get the gps doing its cold start it works fine. Then i quit tt7 and start it again .. still works fine.. 10 minutes later the phone suspends and i wake it up and suddenly there is no gps. then it finds a gps device and then it finds sattelites and then it got a fix (after way to long time) and then right when it fixes it looses the gps device ..
conclusion: this is has to be some powersaving which makes the gps device doing a cold start again while it is started allready.
i also noticed when you start quickgps and then exit it and go to tomtom it suddenly finds all preloaded sattelites ...
when running advconfig3 the assisted gps is turned off by default and i turned it on. Im going to put it back to default to see if it makes a difference
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Hi,
I had a similar issue with TomTom 6 yesterday.
I had set the Assisted GPS to ON using the AdvancedConfig program. Whilst i was driving, i would get a satellite fix for about 10 secs then it would get lost, resulting in TomTom suspending for about 15 secs, a fix would be found again, TomTom will come back to life, then lose itself after 10 seconds. This cycle repeated itself throughout my journey.
I then set the Assisted GPS back to its default OFF, did a soft reset and started TomTom again and it worked fine after that.
Could some of the issues we are experiencing be related to tinkering with the Assisted GPS setting?
M
BLL1989 said:
yeah, I sold my tytn 2 because of all the problems... now history repeats...
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same here!
beh, still cant pick up a single satellite using tomtom7 the satellite lock page is completely blank, with a wheel spinning saying: "poor gps reception, are you in door?" (duh)
while i can acquire a lock using iGo 8, just takes a long time... in door
ive searched and searched, but am yet to find the answer....
i cant remember when, or what i had installed or unistalled etc, but one day, tomtom would never display any satellites in range.
i know it is locked on to satellites though, as it functions as per usual, i just dont understand why i doesnt display it in the program. all other programs work fine, its just this one.
its not "important" because the main thing is that it works, it would be nice to know what was causing the problem though. if anybody has any ideas, id like to hear them
You have to upgrade to v7.910.9185 to fix this.
I changed the RadioROM - from that day I have the same issue. Google Maps shows satellites, HTC GPS Tool shows satellites, only TomTom doesn't.
Let me try and shed some light on this.
I used Tom Tom with the default settings of:
Other NMEA GPS receiver and baud rate 4500 (well the one everyone was recommending)
Locks were so damn poor,
I purchased Nav n Go IGO8 and used same settings and pap, same results. Then by sheer luck decided to as it has a option to do so, set the GPS to AUTO. It then got great instant lock but on COM 4 Baud Rate 57600.
So then went back to TOM TOM and changed it to this and worked a TREAT.
Now i have Tom Tom 7.910 along with Nav n Go IGO8 but rarely use Tom Tom, as IGO8 is so much better in functionality.
Let us know if this helps you as i suspect it will help others.
make sure location mode is on in settings to activate GPS , and you are unlocked (if Verizon)
turns out it was the rom... i was on NRGs Series 1 Rom, but not on the latest 41609 build... updated, and now, miraculously, i have my satellites back!
but your consistent 15 second aGPS fixes may be history now. The new GPS drivers are what is breaking the TomTom display.
Hi
i have read in a few other posts regarding GPS issues and Sat Nav software not working
now i have seen a few programs that 'kick off' the GPS and then runs the program and i have run these to no avail,
i was wondering if anyone else has not only had this issue but struggled to get it working, google maps seems to pick me up via GPS but tomtom is saying 'no gps device' go into settings within tomtom and set to internal gps device, and check gps status and no cannot see any satellites. i have had the phone outside inthe line of sight of the sky for an hour so me being inpatient isn't the issue, any help would be greatly appreciated
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I know with Tomtom and my HD I have to start Chartcross GPStest and let it get a fix first. Then I close GPTtest and start Tomtom. Once I do that Tomtom will pick it up within 30-60 secs. If I dont do that Tomtom will take 10 mins plus to get a fix. Ive tried several roms and radios and all behave the same.
hey thanks for reply
will give that a go
i have used a GPS test program that scans all ports and doesn't pick anything up, will try that one you suggested and see how we go thanks