Setting Data Connection on by default - any way to do it? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I have Windows Live Mobile installed so after a soft reset, the program automatically attempts to make a data connection. However, the data connection tab in the comm manager is set to off by default, so a connection can't be established.
Is there any way on the AT&T Fuze to set the data connection on by default?
Thanks....and yes I searched "data connection default" but didn't see anything related to this problem.

Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3 or Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 have an option to have data always ON. However, this will kill your battery in no time

thanks for your help. i have those programs, but i'll look them over again.
EDIT: i looked at both and don't see an option to always have a data connection enabled. under data, you can obviously enable various connections and i already have those set. but i don't see the option to always have the connection on.

DiamondTweak > 6 Data > 6.2 Always On: MEdia Net

MrSlacker said:
DiamondTweak > 6 Data > 6.2 Always On: MEdia Net
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thanks. i'm an idiot. i didn't have diamond tweak. i had diamond tf3d config....duh.

diar said:
I have Windows Live Mobile installed so after a soft reset, the program automatically attempts to make a data connection. However, the data connection tab in the comm manager is set to off by default, so a connection can't be established.
Is there any way on the AT&T Fuze to set the data connection on by default?
Thanks....and yes I searched "data connection default" but didn't see anything related to this problem.
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Funny how I'm trying to do the opposite. For some reason my data turns on by itself. I turn it off and a few minutes later it turns itself on again. It's really a battery drainer.
If anybody knows how to change it so it will default to off, please post. Thanx.

RallyPunx said:
Funny how I'm trying to do the opposite. For some reason my data turns on by itself. I turn it off and a few minutes later it turns itself on again. It's really a battery drainer.
If anybody knows how to change it so it will default to off, please post. Thanx.
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Certain apps/functions will need data access depending on their polling settings. Email and weather, for example. I disabled the auto updates for those and am hoping to see the data connection stay OFF when I set it.
Hope this does the trick.
I had to configure a bogus network so the device wouldn't get anywhere even if it tried... because it would seemingly reactivate at will.

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Data Auto Disconnect

I'm sure this is a noob question, but I can't find the answer on the forum.
I've seen a couple people reference automatically ending the data connections when they're idle. Can someone explain how this is done?
Is the desire to disconnect the data to save on battery life? Just curious. Thanks.
That's the main reason I want to do it...not sure about others...
I figured out two ways to do this for anyone else that's interested.
1) Using Advanced Config Tool (V3.3): Menu > More Settings > Connections. Check "Disconnect After" and set the timeout you want. This seems to work well for activesync connections (my mail is set to recieve every 5 min), but doesn't always work for on demand connections (Internet).
2) Comm Manager Pro. No instructions for this since I'm not using it (yet). But everything I've read looks like it does it.
Like I mentioned, I've got my email configured to sync every 5 minutes and I have a connection timeout of 30 seconds set in Advanced Config. This setup has drastically improved my battery life. Before this change, I got maybe 12 hours on a good day. With this timeout set, I could probably get 2 solid days. The only thing I haven't figured out is if the timeout is and idle timeout or an overall timeout. What I mean, is will the connection end after 30 seconds even if it's in use?
I'm interested in this as well, it would be even better if outlook or msn live would make a connection and disconnect after synchronizing.
I've been looking for the same solution. So far using advanced config settings will force disconnect no matter if it was idle or not. I'm looking for a solution to disconnect only when idle.
As of proof, set auto disconnect to 1 minute and using latest skype v3.0 start transferring a large file. After 1 minute data connection will be forcibly disconnected.
Any solutions for this?
Thank you.
Can someone help me find the timing setting in Advanced Config? I've looked through everything - using Energy 3.0 Rom (WM6.5) and don't see anything related to data disconnect other than under "Data Connections:" "GPRS disconnect:" and my settings are "Enable button and timer"
I don't see where the timer comes into play; don't really care if the connection gets cut off - I'd rather see a battery life improvement.....
I'm an absolute idiot. I just skimmed through the thread and didn't read the post above... *smacks forehead*
Its been posted in this very topic, and its only 5 replies long
xawen said:
I figured out two ways to do this for anyone else that's interested.
1) Using Advanced Config Tool (V3.3): Menu > More Settings > Connections. Check "Disconnect After" and set the timeout you want. This seems to work well for activesync connections (my mail is set to recieve every 5 min), but doesn't always work for on demand connections (Internet).
2) Comm Manager Pro. No instructions for this since I'm not using it (yet). But everything I've read looks like it does it.
Like I mentioned, I've got my email configured to sync every 5 minutes and I have a connection timeout of 30 seconds set in Advanced Config. This setup has drastically improved my battery life. Before this change, I got maybe 12 hours on a good day. With this timeout set, I could probably get 2 solid days. The only thing I haven't figured out is if the timeout is and idle timeout or an overall timeout. What I mean, is will the connection end after 30 seconds even if it's in use?
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In advanced config the settings you are looking are not located in the list on first screen, the are in separate menu as described above.
And now I'll quote myself so my question will not get burred:
[email protected] said:
I've been looking for the same solution. So far using advanced config settings will force disconnect no matter if it was idle or not. I'm looking for a solution to disconnect only when idle.
As of proof, set auto disconnect to 1 minute and using latest skype v3.0 start transferring a large file. After 1 minute data connection will be forcibly disconnected.
Any solutions for this?
Thank you.
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guys, found this
http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/
hope this helps in some way
Thanks for the link, unfortunately it still disconnects even if data connection is in use.
WMLongLife can do this for you.
About the registry tweak that does this, I must warn you: it disables the ability to do voice and data simultaneously.
Chainfire said:
WMLongLife can do this for you.
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Just checked WMLongLife and it seems that program does not quiet work if one doesn't use opera or wifirouter...
Chainfire said:
About the registry tweak that does this, I must warn you: it disables the ability to do voice and data simultaneously.
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This is new for me...I thought that data connection cannot co-exist with phone call, period..
[email protected] said:
Just checked WMLongLife and it seems that program does not quiet work if one doesn't use opera or wifirouter...
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Yes it does require a certain way of using your phone (current test version has specific settings - you can change this in next version). Just saying.
This is new for me...I thought that data connection cannot co-exist with phone call, period..
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Yes it can, but it depends on several factors. Under ideal (and never actually occuring) conditions it can be done with 2G GSM (GPRS/EDGE). Normally, however, either GPRS/EDGE connection suspends ('pauses') during voice call, or with 2G CDMA voice call may not work at all while data connection active (depends on exact 2G CDMA network type).
With 3G GSM (UMTS/HSPA) it is quite possible (and normal) to do data and voice simultaneously, however for some reason the auto data disconnect registry tweak breaks it. I'm not quite sure why, but it does.
3G CDMA (EV-DO) behaves the same as 2G GSM with regards to simultaneous voice and data (data drops), however, EV-DO Rev. A behaves the same as 3G GSM (possible but broken by registry tweak)
Aside from this, it is also needed that your provider/network has the correct hardware to handle this. I'm not sure how common it is for this properly operating on EV-DO Rev. A, but for UMTS/HSPA early tower equipment was bugged and did not allow this. In Europe, most UMTS/HSPA towers have since been upgraded to allow simultaneous voice and data (and HTC handsets support this perfectly), but how this is in the USA I cannot say.
Hope that explains it (it is a bit messy explenation I know)
if this dowsn't work then i have no ideea what will )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484084
tell me if worked for you
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I had it set to disconnect (via Diamond Tweak software) after 1 minute of activity. I did this to preserve battery life, BUT BUT BUT
With 3g on, and even with 3g disabled all day and edge on, the battery still died in 8, 12 hours (3g, edge) with the connection disabling. i use the phone for a good number of calls, text, and some data every day.
AFTER i reenabled it to NOT disconnect after every 1 minute, i pulled over 24 hours on a SINGLE charge.
am i the only one that's experienced this??

My Data Connections Cotinually Turns Itself On

When I leave the house, I usually turn off Wifi. Then, the phone turns on Data Connections. I have no data plan. How do I shut it up for good?
Secondly, if I turn my phone to sleep mode with that bop on the top of it's head, will it look for Wifi signals? Or does it shut that off too? I'll just leave it on Wifi the whole time if thats the case I guess.
Thanks.
Install Advance Config 3.3 if you haven't already. There's a section for Connections where you can disable all data connections. This way the phone will not try to connect through any of the data connections.
There's also an option in there for wireless.
keeping your wifi on all the time will drain your battery fast!
my suggestion is if you dont have a data plan is go to start-settings-connections, connections. advanced on the bottom then select networks. There you have 2 drop down boxes, set each to "My Work Network" then click edit on one of them and make sure in the modem tab that its empty (nothing there). Your device should now stop attempting to establish a data connection.
Perhaps you are running some software,that forces internet connection. Are you sure you have disabled all of them(maybe auto-update of weather,RSS,etc...)?
Auto-update of weather will do that? Man thats dumb. I'll turn it off but once I am smart enough I'm going to install that commander program. But right now I am too scared to even plug the USB in to my computer.
Anyone care to help me over GMail chat or something?
this thread and this thread should be merged because they're dealing with the same thing.
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Auto-update of weather will do that? Man thats dumb. I'll turn it off but once I am smart enough I'm going to install that commander program. But right now I am too scared to even plug the USB in to my computer.
Anyone care to help me over GMail chat or something?
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I am using SBSH PocketWeather and I have options there to Enable autoupdate and Force connection(when the connection is deactivated,it activates it). This is very dangerous while roaming,espc.here in EU.

Disable 3G, Edge etc; Use WIFI only

I dont have a data package for my fuze so i want to disable it from connecting when i load an app that uses internet. I wish to have wifi as my default connection.
Is there a simple way to do this?
Search for the nodata app. It will allow you to disable all data connections other than wifi. I am in the same situation as you and it works out fine for me so far.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=24287
or you could just go to your connection settings and under advanced select My work network in both drop down boxes...
um you could just go to the connection settings and delete the dial up profile
Or you could just go to Comm Manager and turn off Data Connection.
go to settings, then Communications and turn off your data connection.
yeah but he doesnt have a data connection that wouldnt stop it from dialing up would it?
If there's no wifi - it will automagically turn the data connection back on (when it needs one - weather/email/etc.). Why there's even a switch.... i dunno.
Well i did disable so it didnt even come up so i dont get charged even the smallest amount. However youtube doesnt work with wifi, everything else does.
xboxhaxorz said:
Well i did disable so it didnt even come up so i dont get charged even the smallest amount. However youtube doesnt work with wifi, everything else does.
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I have disabled data connection and Youtube works great for me over wifi, so don't worry, it's not a software limitation.
I cant figure it out then, it doesnt seem to work over wifi. Perhaps your just a lucky fuze user.
Edit:WOW JUST POSTED THIS, Tried it and now its working lol
You can always ask your service provider to put a data block on your account, just to be on the safe side
euphoria47 said:
You can always ask your service provider to put a data block on your account, just to be on the safe side
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Oh thanks, will do that in the future
just go to the network settings and create a fake / none network and set that as the default.
thats what i did worked perfectly
hope this helps
call at&T to have them put the internet block code on that phone number
thillypickle said:
just go to the network settings and create a fake / none network and set that as the default.
thats what i did worked perfectly
hope this helps
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This might sound noobish, but do you have a step by step?? Is it on Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Netwoks>....?? Thanks in advance.
Search and dowload NOGPRS cab. It should be a zipfile with a cab in it. Run the cab on yout phone. You should now have an icon that says Nodata. This allows you to toggle the connection so it can come on freely when needed by an app, or not come on at all even if an app needs it. Pretty self explanatory. No need to create fake accounts, or delete anything. If you delete stuff, then when you need to use it if ever, you have to re-enter everything. This eliminates that.

how to know what application is starting data connection?

My TP is driving me crazy... it starts automatically data connection and keeps it on for hours, but activesync, wheater, and myphone are set to "manual".
How could i know what application causes data connection to start?
Thanks
have not tried this .... but perhaps a software firewall such as this (freeware)
https://www.mylookout.com/
use advanced config and go to the more options and go to data, you may have it set to always on. i hit that accidentally one time and didnt notice
if you are using touchflo (sense) it might be checking the weather automatically.
thanks for the info

App for blocking mobile data connection?

As per the title...
I'm currently on holiday in Canada and using the hotel WiFi - but it keeps dropping out and my phone connects itself using 3G. Data on my O2 contract is £6per mb - so I don't want to be surfing on that! Because Opera or Skyfire take up the whole screen, I can't see when itsdropped out of WiFi, so my bill is already likely to be huge!
Is there an app to prevent my phone connecting over 3G / Edge etc?
Cheers...
p3eps said:
As per the title...
I'm currently on holiday in Canada and using the hotel WiFi - but it keeps dropping out and my phone connects itself using 3G. Data on my O2 contract is £6per mb - so I don't want to be surfing on that! Because Opera or Skyfire take up the whole screen, I can't see when itsdropped out of WiFi, so my bill is already likely to be huge!
Is there an app to prevent my phone connecting over 3G / Edge etc?
Cheers...
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Can't you just activate the "no data on roaming" option?
Otherwise, you can install NoData, or Manila dial-up enabler/disabler.
Grtz,
Degake
Hi.
Use this to disable the data connection. Originally from MoDaco forum....i think.
This is how I did it, taken from the HTC support site:
How do I disable my 3G/GPRS Data Connection?
Follow the steps below to ensure that your phone will never connect to a GPRS/3G Data Connection.
1. Go to Start > Settings > Menu > All Settings > Connections > Connections
2. Tap Add a new modem connection > then under Select a modem, select Celluar Line (GPRS) > Name the Connection "Offline" >Tap Next.
3. In the Access point name text box input "Offline" and tap Next.
4. On the next page tap Finish.
5. On the second Connections Menu, tap Manage existing connections and select "Offline" then click OK.
Re-enable the data connection if you want to connect to the internet via 3g/Edge.
1. From the home screen, slide to the Settings tab, Wireless Controls > Data Connection.
2. Select your Country and Operator
3. Tap OK.
4. On the subsequent screen, tap Yes.
The phone will automatically configure itself with the appropriate settings.
Note: When disabling the connection in this way, your phone may report errors when trying to connect to "Offline." The error is caused by the phone being unable to connect to a data source due to the settings, and is normal.
yeah well it's pretty much the same when you remove all settings - it tries to connect but it can't and an error message pops up when it tries to connect. i just can't figure why it's trying to connect in the first place when i've stopped all data services available in the settings tab and there are no applications running according to the task manager? i want it to stop trying to connect cuz its freaking anoying.
rumz82 said:
Hi.
Use this to disable the data connection. Originally from MoDaco forum....i think.
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Thanks... it seems to be working great so far!
p3eps said:
Thanks... it seems to be working great so far!
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Your welcome
Finally...!!!
rumz82 said:
Hi.
Use this to disable the data connection. Originally from MoDaco forum....i think.
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Rumz82, I know it's been a while since the last post, just for you to know that CAB saved me some money, because everytime I travel to another country I have roaming data charges, even if everything is disabled.
If I'd have searched here before, I could have saved some money indeed...
Thank you a zillion.
Best regards!

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