Please help me get some direction and clarity on which utilities to use on winmo6.1. - General Topics

For the last few years I was running winmo5 with SPB Mobile Shell and Pocket Plus running. Now with my new phone I have winmo6.1 and Touchflo3d.
Touchflo is very nice but some of the features of SPB I miss.
I see people using WkTask to replace some of the features missing out of touchflo that SPB had but WkTask seems to mess up my title bar and make navigating harder.
I also see people running wisbar, what would that replace from the above mentioned software?
Do any of you out there have experience with all three and perhaps some enlightenment for this not so newb to winmo but winmo6.1 fuze newb?

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Internet Explorer touch-scroll very sticky/choppy

I've had my Orbit 2 for one day and find internet explorer unusable, so much that I'm considering sending it back and staying with my hermes/tytn/Orange M3100. The touch scroll/flow is very very sticky and slow.
On my hermes I have SPB Pocket Plus installed with the 'Smart Scrolling' feature on. With this, Internet Explorer finger-scrolling down web pages is super-smooth and fast.
I installed SPB Pocket Plus on my Orbit 2 thinking this would sort the problem out but when installed on the Orbit 2 the Smart Scrolling feature is missing (!?)
I really don't want to send the phone back, so any help with resolving this issue would be very much appreciated.
Please.... This has already been posted so often! Why don't you simply use the search function?
I'll give you one hint, however: ie_slow_scroll_fix.cab
sorry, I did search but didn't find that cab. thanks for the pointer!
I've installed it and scrolling is much improved, but still nowhere near as good as om my hermes with SPB Pocket plus installed with the Smart Scrolling feature.
Does anyone know why the Smart Scrolling feature of SPB Pocket plus isn't available when installed on the polaris (Orbit 2)?
try disabling htc's touchflo 1st?
It appears SBP PP's Smart Scrolling is not compatible with any TouchFlo device. I suppose thats a good enough reason for a little donation to support the chefs with their cooking of a TouchFlo + SPB Smart Scrolling compatible rom.
also u can try PIE for windows 6.1
Why not install the new Netfront Browser 3.5? It's got a really smooth scrooling function combined with tabbed browsing and the zoom-out function (like Opera mini). And it's free until May 31, so you won't have to worry anymore for the next three months.
The IE_slow_scroll_fix.cab, however, made scrolling perfectly smooth on my device. I don't think it could be much better. So perhaps you try to do a hard reset and then install it first or uninstall SPB and then install the cab? It should work almost perfectly...
Think TouchFlo + SPB Smart Scrolling compatible is impossible. You'd have to choose one. That's why I'd rather use SPB which at least comes with updates for bugs.
I agree with maati:
Install Netfront. Maybe till end of May HTC has released a new rom where the bug is fixed.
This worked for me
try this one also.. PIE for WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69019&d=1202193751
Guys, thanks for the suggestions!
I already have Netfont Browser 3.5 installed, and it has a very nice 'action'. Is there any way to get it to scale down the web page to a column like Internet Explorer does?
I've just tried Pocket Internet Explorer for WM6.1 (Thanks for the link alipi2007) and running this along with the IE_Slow_Scroll_Fix cab seems to do a better job.
However, let me give you an example to decribe the issue I still have:
When using the Polaris to view the index of this forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php), I flick my thumb from the bottom of the Polaris screen to the top three times in quick succession - the screen scrolls and halts at the picture of the Wallaby handset.
Now, when I do the same on my Hermes running SPB Pocket Plus with Smart Scrolling, this three flicks of my thumb up the screen takes me down to the picture of the Vogue.
Quite some difference, don't you agree?
It's this speed of navigation and fluidity that I need on my Polaris.

Spb Mobile Shell or Pointui : Home

well i was kinda wondering which one you guys use, if either. I use Pointui 1.02b test2
master athlon said:
well i was kinda wondering which one you guys use, if either. I use Pointui 1.02b test2
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This is what I have loaded on my Cingular 8525:
Spb MobileShell 2.0
Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.2 - UltimateMax Icon Set
Spb Phone Suite 1.3.0 Beta1
Spb Diary 2.5.7
Spb Time 2.2.2
Spb Weather 1.7.2 - Stardock Weather Skin
Spb Backup 1.6.3
Spb Insight 1.5.1
Spb Imager 1.6
DinarSoft MemMaid 2.2
Microsoft Voice Command 1.6
CoreCodec CorePlayer 1.2.1 - Just released
SOTI Pocket Controller Pro 6.01
As you can see, I support Spb with all my lunch money.....
I've used Pointui 1.02b but it didn't have what I wanted plus a few bugs that didn't like me....
I've used both extensively and it right now I have to say SPB. But I can see Pointui being better if they ever allow full customization and have an option to be a plugin or take over the today screen
I have to say I had never heard of pointui until this thread and having looked at the screenshots I have to say YUK !
SPB Mobile Shell all the way.
JMHO.
i love pointui....once they get alot of these bugs ironed out, i think it will be great...
spb mobile shell is great....but kinda pricey, deleted after trial
i think when pointui gets closer to a finished product, and has more functionality, it WILL be better....but as of right now, ignoring the price, spb mobile shell is better...
Hi,
I say you that I am also same as dmj1973. I read all of you and find I am not hared it before read this thread. So I want more information about it.
thanks.
dmj1973 said:
I have to say I had never heard of pointui until this thread and having looked at the screenshots I have to say YUK !
SPB Mobile Shell all the way.
JMHO.
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PointUI was released at 00:00 on new years day, a full ui replacement, its pretty amazing, but I only ever used it on a vga device, so all the graphics were screwed, and I also only used the first version... still though, it is pretty amazing...
how you hadnt heard of it I dont know
rory
mchapman007 said:
This is what I have loaded on my Cingular 8525:
Spb MobileShell 2.0
Spb Pocket Plus 4.0.2 - UltimateMax Icon Set
Spb Phone Suite 1.3.0 Beta1
Spb Diary 2.5.7
Spb Time 2.2.2
Spb Weather 1.7.2 - Stardock Weather Skin
Spb Backup 1.6.3
Spb Insight 1.5.1
Spb Imager 1.6
DinarSoft MemMaid 2.2
Microsoft Voice Command 1.6
CoreCoded CorePlayer 1.2.1 - Just released
SOTI Pocket Controller Pro 6.01
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So what you're saying is that you're not a big fan of Spb's software?
jhonedward said:
I say you that I am also same as dmj1973. I read all of you and find I am not hared it before read this thread. So I want more information about it.
thanks.
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here's a link to the Pointui site
And thank you all for responding, but i must say i do find Pointui slightly more of a simpler approach.
Point UI is a lot more touch friendly than SPB imo,
but then again thats just my taste.
Yeah it is currently lacking customization but besides that i dont have any other things that bug me.
I thought that PointUI was very slick (and liked it alot), but didn't think it was ready for primetime.
For me, PointUI is progressive and will just keep getting better developed.
first used pointUI and liked it but still didnt do all the things i wanted....now i'm sticking with mobileshell its been good to me
Tried Both...Definitely Prefer SPB Mobile Shell
Tried Point UI 1.02b and it was pretty good. But Navigation is so much easier with SPB Mobile Shell. That's not to say PointUI navigation is bad, just that Mobile Shell is much easier - IMHO.
Unfortunately, like PointUI Mobile Shell still has some bugs.
The main advantages of PointUI over SPB are:
- Free for now
- Can be set as default UI on boot (with SPB you have to start it up yourself - not able to do it with Startup link).
The main advantage of SPB Mobile Shell over PointUI is:
EASY (and somewhat configurable) navigation
I also prefer the "look" of SPB's today screen replacement (called Now) over PointUI's, but that's a matter of taste.
Same here -- I tried PointUI also. While it was nice, I just found there to be too many screen taps to get where I wanted to go. I'm sure it will get better as the development progresses, but I'm sticking with Mobile Shell for now too.

Does spb mobile shell work on Touch pro ?

Hi all,
great site, I'm a newbie to all this and windows mobile, been reading and using different things from this forum, just interested to know if Spb shell works on the touch pro, might sound silly, but just installed on my sister in-laws tnty ii, it looks good, and because of the small issues with the touch flow, seems like a good thing to try, sorry if I've posted in the wrong place and the question is stupid, but just asking..... cheers . Love my touch pro, previously tried the Omnia well 3 of them......very poor
I haven't tried it on Touch Pro, but there should be no reason for it not to work..... after disabling TF3D of course
jon7of9 said:
Hi all,
great site, I'm a newbie to all this and windows mobile, been reading and using different things from this forum, just interested to know if Spb shell works on the touch pro, might sound silly, but just installed on my sister in-laws tnty ii, it looks good, and because of the small issues with the touch flow, seems like a good thing to try, sorry if I've posted in the wrong place and the question is stupid, but just asking..... cheers . Love my touch pro, previously tried the Omnia well 3 of them......very poor
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It works perfect. I use SPB shell since the first day on my TP.
salut
boogey
With a bit of tweaking, if it perfectly possible using both TF3D and Mobileshell on the TP. I did it myself, combining MS' application menus and TF3D Program Tabs without having to touch any of the manilla files, just by creating a couple of shortcuts.
yes works well
Many thanks all, I've installed it, and it works really well, in fact surprisingly well, looks good in black, now to find skins, and the dilemma in whether to use instead of the touch flo, again thanks
SPB mobile shell and TF3D
clandestino_usr said:
With a bit of tweaking, if it perfectly possible using both TF3D and Mobileshell on the TP. I did it myself, combining MS' application menus and TF3D Program Tabs without having to touch any of the manilla files, just by creating a couple of shortcuts.
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Interesting.
The best I could do (without touching any manilla files) is to add SPB Mobile shell as one of the Programs in the Progam Tab.
Still missing the ability to directly access the shell from the today screen (i.e. Phone Volume Setting, White/Black List, etc.)
i use it instrad of tf3d
So any SPB Mobile Shell themes that work for QVGA devices should work fine for SPB Mobile Shell on the Touch Pro (with it's VGA screen)?
Just making sure.. The Touch Pro (Fuze) should be at AT&T any day now.. If I know I can use SPB Mobile Shell to change themes it's a definite buy for me..
On a related note, is there an easy way to switch Mobile Shell themes without having to soft-boot or copy over old shell files? I really liked how in SPB Pocket Plus you could go to a 'theme' menu and choose the color theme you want.. I'd love to intall 4 or 5 and be able to switch back and forth on the fly..
-Matthew
I have SPB mobile shell that works with TF3D. What I've done is added a shortcut to the programs menu (in TF3d). When I press it I get a nice interface that enables me to choose which program to load.
WIndows mobile is almost completely hidden during regular use (almost).
Because of all the problems I'm having with my Pro might check out SPB. Where can I get it?
vdKarel said:
Because of all the problems I'm having with my Pro might check out SPB. Where can I get it?
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you have to buy it...
I haven't tried it on Touch Pro, but there should be no reason for it not to work..... after disabling TF3D of course
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Maybe it's possible to use SecondToday to keep both TF3D and Spb Mobile Shell. I use SecondToday with PocketBreeze.
installed spb mobile shell on my htc tp... the interface works fine but somehow when i receive calls the caller id interface becomes laggy and sometimes inconsistent...
my take... so now i am using tf3d with the new s2u2 1.3 with caller id enabled and it works flawlessly ( so far)

Have any of you completely ditched Touch Flo in favor of any other software?

I totally love touch flo but I am not sold that it is anything but eye candy and that other software overlays for WM6.1 might be better.
I was curious if there are people out there who have jettisoned touchflo in favor of something else, and what is that else?
Thanks for your opinions, input and software suggestions.
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
I googled WAD and was soured by what Google thinks I was referencing. )
What are you referencing? Manilla is TouchFlo right, but where does hte manilla come from? What is WAD?
WAD is Wisbar Advance Desktop, here you go:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
There are a lot of nice skins for WAD.
ufufu got it for you
yes manilla is "touch flo"
manilla comes from htc but has been reverse engineered by some developers on xda.
joel2009 said:
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
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i added wad to pda V10 and cant get it to work.. i disabled tf in today but wad still wont display weather etc..
its just a black screen
i really like the look of what wad is supposed to be..
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
i see it the same way.. Manila2D/TF3D is good only for having your PDA look cool. it's not as useful as a PDA could get.
I set my UltimateLaunch to be as useful as i could using FEWidgets/Makecall (for speed dialing)/Rumball's weather/some internet icons and a networking plugin... and so forth.
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How do you feel wisbar advanced desktop comapres to SPB pocket plus, do you have any experience?
Glad to hear I am not alone with tf3d not being the ultimate in work horses, I will look into ultimate launch.
by blank screen does it actually look like a blank screen, or does it look like there is nothing on your today screen. wisbar has to be completely designed by hand, or you have to download a theme file.
go here for a theme and tutorial i have put together.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442813
I have the same question and thoughts - perhaps WAD or SPB mobile shell would be a better fit b/c of the greater potential for customization. Can anyone comment on the memory usage / responsiveness between tf2d and WAD or tf2d and SPB mobile shell?
the opposite here. i used to have ultimateLaunch, but when Manila (TF3D) was born, ditched UL and now I am a happy manila user... love the changing themes every now and then, and everything else that comes with it, e.g. great graphics (rain animation is nice) and the close to no maintenance. manila is a little less flexibile the UL, but, pros overcome cons, for me at least.

Disable TochFlo today plugin but still active in menus

Hi guys, I have a small problem. I want to disable TouchFlo on the Today screen but still have the menus and big buttons that Manila gives because if I disable the today plugin it switches everything off...
Thanks in advance for the help!
//seclub
TouchFlow equals Finger Friendlyness .. or so they say.
Though TouchFlow3D is finger friendly, it is not the only XML based finger friendly interface. There are freeware and payware TF2D/TF3D alternatives.
First take a look here on XDA-Developers for Windows Mobile Themes where many of the Today-Plugins, discussed in the webpages below, are developed!
Second take a look here for the freeware Today-Plugins;
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-today_screen-1-date.html
and
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/category/software/today-screen-software
Third take a look here for some Free~/Pay~/Evaluation~/Demo ware Today-Plugins;
http://en.softonic.com/pocketpc/virtual-desktops
Mentioned in the above web page(s), these two get mentioned everywhere on the www;
WisBar Advance Desktop
WisBar Advance Forums
SPB Software (not the spb site)
SPB Mobile Shell
Hope this helps,
Senax

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