Currently SEP900i for more than 2 years now and would like to change to Winmobile again.
Previously used O2 blueangel first with WM2003SE and then with WM5.
Currently i would like to know which phone do you suggest based on above 3. Though i would miss the keyboard on omnia but the camera and some other software features looks interesting.
Also since i dont change my mobile for at least 2 years leaving in China where we dont have mobile plans in EU so i would like to know if any of the 3 can be installed with WM7 whenever it is launched. Sorry if this is a little stupid but wont harm if i know could be done in future.
TIA.
omnia got a bigger screen but lower res
"i would like to know if any of the 3 can be installed with WM7 whenever it is launched"
nobody can say for sure
acceleration Meter would prob mean more wm7 features supported though x1 dont have that not sure about Omnia
Omnia has an accelerometer
edit: in Asia there is an Omnia that has an 800x480 screen, if your looking at Omnia's then check this out. I think its called the Omnia-T (but not sure - google is your friend). Also, Samsung are very prolific with firmware upgrades and being very aggresive at supporting the phone in this manner. Much more active than HTC have ever been and VERY quick to fix issues with new firmware. check out i900.modaco.com for more info.
The Omnia feels quite cheap, and is only so popular because a lot of people know Samsung.
The HTC's are by far the best.
The Xperia has a smaller screen, and a small keyboard.
The Pro is ofcourse very nice, but quite large around the waist. ;-)
Xperia has higher resolution and nicer screen.
I was doubting for a while too, but I've tested them all, and yesterday decided to buy the HD.
Omnia already had quite some problems, and the resolution of the Touch Pro is not suited for the future.
The Hd's 800*400-screen is unbelieveable.
That's right, go for HTC Touch HD.
Regards,
Carty..
guanodude said:
The Omnia feels quite cheap, and is only so popular because a lot of people know Samsung.
The HTC's are by far the best.
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I was doubting for a while too, but I've tested them all, and yesterday decided to buy the HD.
Omnia already had quite some problems, and the resolution of the Touch Pro is not suited for the future.
The Hd's 800*400-screen is unbelieveable.
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Tested them all? I OWN a Touch Diamond (before that, TyTN and TyTN2 and BlueAngel) and EVERY HTC device I have ever had has had to be returned for physical failures at least once if not twice. Actually, thats a lie: the TD hasn't because I gave up with it after trying various diferent ROMs. This has now been refunded by the ebay seller as under UK law its "Not Fit For Purpose". (And the new euro constitution want's to get rid of our Sales of Goods Act - UK people, dont let them!!!)
The last phone I had between the tytn 2 and TD was a Tosh G900 and this was faultless - just like my I900 which is also FAULTLESS. The Omnia has some software issues to start with (Blank screen of death) but these were aggresivley fixed by Samsung, far quicker than HTC have ever done with any of there issues.
HTC devices are designed great but pi** poor manufacturing quality in my experience as can be seen from my history. I said once before that I would NEVER buy another HTC device and I didn't but then relented and purchased a TD .... only to be proved that I should never buy a HTC device.
btw, the first phone to have a 800*480 screen was the Tosh G900 .... been there, done that.... for well over a year. Well done HTC for catching up .... finaly
Before anyone shouts TomTom (at the Omnia) ... this has been proven by the guys on Modaco that this is a TomTom programing issue and not a Samsung problem. But then, this is also easily got around with GPSGate or similar.
I will point out though that if games are your choice, the Omnia is not the best choice as games often have hard coded screen resolutions and these won't work - again, maybe look for the 800x480 Omnia which is about to launch in Asia.
And finaly, Hands up all those that have 32gig in there phone......
/me puts hand up
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hi,
is there a phone that has a around 3" screen, VGA, WM6 , GPS and HSDPA ?
the E-TEN X800 will have that when it gets out in 2010
the portege g900 is close but without GPS and it's screen is transmissive (weird for a modern phone)
the HTC Advantage is just too big and WM5 ?? WTH !
the HTC Omni might have all that but it only exists in photoshop plus it seems you can`t use it without unfolding the keyboard
the TyTN II doesn't have a VGA screen
I think I might go with the G900 and endure the non-reflective screen and carry around a bluetooth GPS since that's the only option right now and the X800 has been delayed for months
are there other phone to look out for , or other phones that come close ?
thanks
I think the x800 is out in certain online stores and rumor has it the m800 should also be coming out soon.
and if the polaris rumors are connect it will have 3.5" vga screen and all the rest
and maybe that thoshiba thingy forget it's name
The Polaris would not have vga, almost the same specs as the TyTN II only slimmer and no hardware keyboard. The more little/slimmer brother of the TyTN II.
still many sources who claim it does
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...s/257910/HTC-Touch-GPS-VGA-more-HTC-Polaris-/
http://www.trendygadget.com/2007/06/29/htc-polaris-coming-in-october/
you can get more with google both sources which say vga which say qvga
which say 2.8" and 3.5" it's still too early to say anything for surden
shodanx said:
I think I might go with the G900 and endure the non-reflective screen and carry around a bluetooth GPS
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Wow are you not aware of the numerous serious problems it has?
And that Toshiba have practically given up?
Do a Google about user opinions you will find out more.
There were some X800 in stock yesterday at Inkino.
And it is (I think) widely available in Romania and nearby countries already.
Hi,
thanks for all the replies
I had no idea there were any X800 on the market yet
also I thought the g900 software glitches had been mostly corrected, in fact just before I read that I was gonna bid on a G900 on ebay , I was one click away literally !
inkino is inkinocomms.com ? right ?
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=82&products_id=1997
hmm it's pre-order
anyone knows of a store that really has some ?
I've been looking for this phone since august but release date is always two weeks away :\
also what about the HTC P6500 , is that coming out this century ? because it looks like it has everything too
With the G900, some issues are fixed with the new firmware, but a lot of users are still having problems and Toshiba don't give a tosh about further updates. I personally wouldn't gamble on it.
The turnaround time of upgrading a G900 from Toshiba is 8 weeks. And if you are not in the UK (don't know where are you from), then you can't even send the G900 to Toshiba to get an upgrade. You cannot download the firmware, the upgrade must be carried out by Toshiba.
Next week the X800 should start to become more widely available. However there are reports saying that the graphics performance is REALLY poor. I would wait for more user reports before deciding.
Don't know what you think but I think the P6500 is massive! (Massive as in physically huge, not as in popular)
I think x800 is already available....do you have informations about HTC release about a 3.5" vga touchflow device at the beginning of 2008??
I like the HTC touch cruise, but the 2.8" screen is too small!!!
Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT by a Tosh. The quality is one thing and with a list of tweaks you can get it pretty stable. The SOD issue is probably caused by a wrong version of AS in the ROM.
But the f*ck*ng support from this is really bad. I did sent mine away 4 weeks ago, haven't heard a thing yet. No response on emails. They really don't give a **** about there customers.
9502 or m800
id wait and cross your fingers for I-mate 9502 or eten M800 (x800 with qwerty) to be released!
This is brand new: The I-Mate Ultimate 9502
http://www.imate.com/product.aspx?product=ultimate9502&skinid=1
It's got HSDPA/HSUPA for the United States along with a VGA screen, GPS, Wifi, etc. Check it out. Supposedly these will be sold directly through their website when the device becomes available.
MJB
I've been waiting for a long time for the X800, but it turns out to have a lot of issues:
http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=11632
The 64 mb of RAM ends up to be only 20 mb free after a soft reset because of the bulky ROM (too many programs want to load). No dedicated graphics processor gives it a 236.04 graphics index on spb benchmark. For perspective, the TyTn II's index is over 10 times higher. The VGA isn't worth painfully slow website scrolling.
If only, if only the 9502 isn't vaporware. If no ultimates are released in 2007, I'll throw in the towel, call VGA a dream, and buy a Tilt. I really hope it doesn't come to that.
HTC seriously needs some competition. How can a phone so fat have such a small battery (about 1300 mah)? So many radios need more juice--the 9502 is supposed to have around 1600 mah.
Here's hoping for the 9502 . . .
I thought you can now buy high capacity batteries (1600mah or so) that are the same size as the OE battery?
Early imate 9502 review
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/10/imate_9502_handson.html
Im getting one!
skipping the eten m800 (mainly because low memory).
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I am waiting for something like this myself.
Really hope that HTC will release an iPhone-killer. And not that ugly as HTC6500.
I have been after this exact phone for 2 and a bit years, Im so happy it finally exists !! I started with the universal when it first came to the UK, it was nearly perfect features wise but had issues, now I have an athena it has all the features I want but it's just too big and now finally this !! I hope one of the UK vendors picks it up !!!
Hey Raphael / Touch Pro users...
The Touch Pro was recently released in South Africa and im considering the move from my TyTN II to the Touch Pro!
There is alot of nice looking technology in the Touch Pro and its a beautiful looking device... Im just wondering if people are as unhappy after moving to the Touch Pro as they were after moving to the TyTN II / Kaiser???
Im enjoying the TyTN II, after alot of tweaking i managed to get it feeling good and with the addition of CorePlayer 1.2.5 we can now get around the disgusting video playback issue!
So my question is...
Is the Touch Pro worth it??
What do you guys think??
Thank you!!!!!!
I think it's pretty much on what you need? TP is my first WM device and I'm had up and downs experience. I know it's a new product but just the simple phone function is having issue (not for everyone, I have the mute problem).
I like the screen resolution, the speed is acceptable. The design is great. Anyway it's a cool phone. If you love tech and have the budget, TP sure a nice toy to play around with.
I'm still using my Kaiser as well, but yes I was very happy with the upgrade.
Next is replacing the Diamond with the Touch HD
It's a good question. I heavily used a TYTN II in place of a Blackberry and when I changed jobs in September I bought a Touch Pro and don't use it as much for email anymore, but still use this functionality.
The only thing I miss is the jog wheel, that was very handy although "flicking" the screen to scroll through the mail is just as easy - just different. It's what you get used to.
I have found a number of bugs with the Touch Pro that have been widely discussed on this forum such as GPS lag, answering calls whilst in your pocket etc etc but have cured almost all of them again thanks to responses on this forum.
The Touch Pro is asthetically pleasing where as the TYTN II was purely function over form, and it has really nice touches - such as FM Radio, Opera, YouTube player all built in.
However, am I completely satisfied with the Touch Pro ? No, not completely. The GPS issue is a particular problem as I use it fairly frequently, and I'm noticing that there is an occasional breakup of or jump of sounds - voice calls, MP3's, SMS message tones - like an old record jumping - which to me take the "polish" of an otherwise accomplished device.
If I had to spend my money again at this point in time, I would be hanging on to see what the Xperia was like and then choosing - I will be watching that one with interest myself !
Hey guys!
Thanks very much for the replies, especially Half Penny, that was a very comprehensive reply
Ive only been using HTC devices for 2 months, but ive moved fairly quickly through devices, P4350 -> TyTN I -> TyTN II and i must say that ive come to love the HTC quality, the feel and just the way everything works, which makes me immediately hesitant to move to the X1!
The other issue i have with the X1 (and the Touch HD) Is the WVGA resolution, im worried about compatibility with existing apps, games etc! The X1 is also (in my opinion) an ugly looking device... But (considering i was a TyTN I owner hehe) this doesnt bother me that much!
I want the hardware keyboard, its the reason i moved from "regular" cellphones to these devices, so all the other HTCs and various other devices are ruled out because of lack of the hardware keyboard!
I was hoping that the Touch Pro would iron out a few issues HTC were facing, the poor video playback, the poor 3D performance etc etc... To be honest, if this isnt the case and im not missing that much, i might stick with the TyTN II for a year or so and see what happens (unless i pick up a Touch Pro for a bargain hehe), i love the tilting screen, its something ive come to use alot and im unsure as to why they decided to not include it in their new devices!
Anyway guys, i just thought id open this 1 up for discussion, thanks alot for the great input so far
Pro's and Con's
Whilst the TyTn II is not the most exciting looking device HTC came out with, it was one of the most stable PDA's I have owned. If it had a VGA screen I would have not traded it for the Touch Pro.
OK, the TP is very sexy, has a great screen and keyboard and oodles of RAM. But it has to be the most unstable PDA I have used, with constant glitches and weird errors that cause me to soft reset a couple of times a day. I think there is a real need for HTC to bring out a new ROM build that irons out all the well publicised faults.
Having said that, I love the sheer coolness of this device and the WOW's I get from mates when they see it. So I am pleased I bought it and I wouldn't get rid of it any day soon. I will continue to put up with the glitches and keep checking these forums for solutions.
Would I recommend it? For those who want a functional office device that they toss into a briefcase without a care.... NO!
For those gadget junkies amongst us.... YES!
as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE
xfox said:
as for me the TyTn II will be my first and last HTC device
am gonna switch over to Xperia or G1 or even a smart touch phone(samsung-nokia)
cuz HTC dont have good updates and all there roms are useless and LATE
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Good thing you're well informed and you know what you're talking about. "will be my first and last HTC device...", "am gonna switch over to Xperia (HTC) or G1 (HTC) or even a smart touch phone"... The only 2 phone models you named are made by HTC.
hi, do you think is it a good move to do buy samsung omnia when now i got htc touch,please reply and say a couple of words about omnia.
you do know the stylus of the omnia is seperate from the device.
yes, i know but my question is about is it good move to upgrade to omnia, give me your opinions if you used it or have it.
Don't get me wrong. I like my omnia a lot, even on edge-only on ATT. I use tv-out alot. I've had the tilt and fuze. The qvga vs. vga doesn't bother me. I don't mind the lack of a hard keyboard. The optical sensor doesn't work as well as a d pad. I can't play as many games as I used to play on other devices. But I gave my fuze to my daughter and am using the omnia, because I like it lots and fits my needs better. If you had asked even 2 months ago, I would've said go for the omnia. But, I am saying now, if you can wait, go for a newer model shown at the MWC this week. They are all better than the omnia or fuze or in at least one major way, be it new wvga screen, fast processor, a tilt screen, etc. If you can't wait, omnia's good.
I was in the same boat a few months ago after my selling my Elfin. I am more than happy with the Omnia, I miss the stylus probably the most but the speed of the phone vs the Touch is vast. Also the multimedia experinece is far improved.
meddleuk said:
I was in the same boat a few months ago after my selling my Elfin. I am more than happy with the Omnia, I miss the stylus probably the most but the speed of the phone vs the Touch is vast. Also the multimedia experinece is far improved.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that. But I always used a closed pen for a stylus, anyways... Got tired of the locking-of-the-fuze-with-the-stylus bit.
hi guys
My question is simple, probably the awnser
er won't be, i just want to know what's the best htc out there to buy, or other PDA/Phone to buy. It's supposed to be windows mobile based so i can use some apps (It will be a phone for work, soi need to use some health department based apps, usually for WM). Keeping in mind that i would rather have an htc but other opinions are welcome, money is no issue (company pays ).
thanks in advance
Touch Pro 2
keyboard makes it a bit heavier but it speeds things up quite a bit. IMHO
+1 fot TP2!!
Also you can consider Tosh TG0
Here a little bit of history:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181268#post4181268
Depends on what you want really.
I would go for Touch Pro 2 if you want QWERTY keyboard.
Diamond if you want compact.
Touch HD if you want large screen no QWERTY.
Other significant options (non-htc) are:
Samsung Omnia II's - due out any day now, come in "iphone" style, slider keyboard and blackberry shapes. These all come with supposedly very funky, very battery saving AMOLED screens. If they follow the same standards as the Omnia 1, they are a VERY worthy competitor.
Acer M900 (which I use) - Slide out keyboard
Acer F900 - iphone style
I personaly won't touch another HTC device due to my experiences with the past four i've owned - they all hardware failed one way or another. My Omnia was about as near to perfect as I ever got. Before I heard about the Samsung Omnia II's I'd already bought the Acer M900 (the M900 is a great phone though and I wont be replacing it for a while, even though I can afford to).
thanks for the quick replys guys.
the pro II seems a very good choice, but i really want to make this right, so i've decided to do some more checking b4 i buy.
Monty raised up a good question that i should add to my scale, the omnia II, but what's the difference between that one and the omnia pro?
http://bizanywhere.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/samsung-omnia-pro-qwerty.jpg?w=560&h=464
the url above (if it isn't blocked) is the pro i think, seems a very sharp phone, and it looks good 2.
HTC is still my preference but i want to be sure.
PS: i have a htc p3470 pharos , and i love it, 2 bad it doesn't have wi-fi and a faster cpu. i had an iphone for about a month (laughs) it's a very good phone, for a leisure phone, for a second phone maybe, but not a working man's phone, at least in my situation (if you're puff daddy propably is).
The OmniaPro (slide out keyboard) trounces the TouchPro 2 in a lot of things:
PDADB Compare
I've also listed the old Omnia for comparison sake as well as the Omnia II and my current phone of choice, the Acer M900
edit: to be fair though, i dont think you would be upset with a TP2 either, its still a well spec'ed phone.... just hope it holds together more than 6 months!
Salutations!
Sooner im getting rid of my 1 month old iPhone 3G and i want to come back to WindowsMobile.
Previously i had TouchPro and it was reallly good phone.
But now i would like to buy other one.
Which one would YOU choose and why?
QWERTY is a must!
Touch Pro 2 by far. Out of all the phones you listed it has the best specs in every way. And by far the best keyboard.
Some people like the LG eXpo. It has a 1ghz snapdragon processor, a sort-of dpad under the screen, and apparently a projector though I have no idea what you'd use it for.
But the Touch Pro 2 has a good number of great ROMS for you to experiment with, and a very functional and usable Android port.
And it tilts. I never thought I'd care about the tilting until I actually started using it. It's a great feature. You can tilt it and put it on your desk and use it like a mini-laptop. Lots of fun.
As a TP2/HD2/TP/Diamond user, the TP2 has the best keyboard, but you may want to consider the HD2, the screen is just so, well, HUGE
The X1 has been succeeded by the X2, but there is no XDA support for that, i love the tp2 on Deepshining X6 6.5.5, it is the nicest device i have ever used, but you sould choose for yourself
Badwolve1 said:
As a TP2/HD2/TP/Diamond user, the TP2 has the best keyboard, but you may want to consider the HD2, the screen is just so, well, HUGE
The X1 has been succeeded by the X2, but there is no XDA support for that, i love the tp2 on Deepshining X6 6.5.5, it is the nicest device i have ever used, but you sould choose for yourself
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He said QWERTY is a must In this case I'd take the TP2 as well. From what I heard about SE it seems they are not very good in building stable WM devices...
TP2. best qwerty among those 3. forget about the X1.
oh there's also a new Samsung with QWERTY. Samsung have great hardware but their ROMs/Software are full of junk and instable like no other.
X1 is not bad though rather old, therefore compared to new phones the hardware cannot compete anymore
X2 gets good grades on manufacturing and seems faster (though having the same cpu as X1), but looses all because of the currently very bad firmware, additionally there is no h-spl for it yet, so all owners are stuck with stock (for who knows how long)
so you better pick one of the other phones
good decision btw to swap your iphone for wm device
cheers
RAMMANN said:
He said QWERTY is a must In this case I'd take the TP2 as well. From what I heard about SE it seems they are not very good in building stable WM devices...
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Trust me, the the on screen keyboard is awesome on the HD2, but the TP2 fits the bill for you, if you can, get a RHOD300, full 288MB ram useable
I'm almost tempted to suggest we do a swop. Your iPhone for my Touch Pro.
Never have I been able to connect to anything other than a WEP wifi network with it. Was with friend the other day. Connected to both a WPA network and to The Cloud, without so much as a twitch.
Me? fiddle with this, fiddle with that and nothing (Stupid greyed out PEAP/Cert box, in WPA settings. Searched the net till I'm blue in the face with that one).
Come on, sit outside my house next time I'm doing some internet banking, why don't you.
I've never used the keyboard either. iPhone has all the apps of course, one for everything. With WM it's a case of fiddle, fiddle.
What doesn't the iPhone have that I'd miss..... ermmm an FM radio!