With the release of the HTC Fuze and support for the 850 and 900 UMTS bands does this mean that the device will be suitable for the Telstra Next G Network in Australia as they use the same bands? I've gotten conflicting answers from contact within Oz, so i thought it best to ask you guys!
aussienick said:
With the release of the HTC Fuze and support for the 850 and 900 UMTS bands does this mean that the device will be suitable for the Telstra Next G Network in Australia as they use the same bands? I've gotten conflicting answers from contact within Oz, so i thought it best to ask you guys!
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yes they will. though telstra has something nice up their sleeves too
Thanks
I'd be very interested to hear more. I asked at Two Telstra shops yesterday and there was a large silence before they said no...thought something was a bit suss
Please, please my JASJAM is dying slowly but definitely not gracefully and am hanging to get this phone on NextG (due to location).
Have been watching forums for any news along with pestering Telstra but still no joy.
Telstra and something nice don't normally go together...so I'm very intrigued!
Im in the same position. My jasjam is trooping on, but i would love one of these on the NextG network.
Keep this thread updated with any news from Telstra.
My dopod 838 is on the way out :-(
Mobicity is the only place I have seen selling a specific NextG Touch Pro but Im a bit dubious about it...
Something nice? I have to agree with VinEquity.. telstra and nice dont go togeather. "look at the pretty lights, ignore the horror of the charges." and what is usually up their sleeve is another charge.
I've given up on the Fuze for the moment due to the cost of getting one into Australia, approx $900 from someone on ebay with no warranty etc.
It would be good to see Telstra pick up the Touch Pro & the Touch HD in the near future but they have been way behind Vodafone, Optus & even Three for launches of major phones such as the Nokia E72, BlackBerry Bold (6 weeks after Optus even thought Telstra were supposed to have an 'exclusive') and now the Omnia
no one else has looked into the mobicity? they are pretty adament it is a next g phone.
Got an email back from mobicity, it appears these touch pros are actually fuze's. They have an AT&T logo on them.
the uk touch pro has 850/900 band...i got mine a few months before it came out in australia and works well on optus (havent tried next g since dont have telstra sim). it cost au$900 which is 350 less than outright from austalia
Hey xternal, just spoke to Telstra again, girl had the TP on her list of Next G handsets but no stock available until early December. She's going to call me on my JASJAM, if it survives that long, when stock arrives....Not counting any chickens yet!
Spoke to Telstra again today. The girl said she had the TP on her list of Next G handsets but no stock available yet. She spoke to her supervisor who said early December...that's only next week!!!!!! I'll be phoning back on the 1st, 2nd... until I get my hands on one. My JASJAM has starting givng me the white screen of death so it should all fall into place nicely or am I counting my chickens prematurely.
Hey thanks for the update. My contract is up in dec so could be perfect!
Still no sign
Talked to telstra today, they said they have no idea when it will be released, they just released the Nokia 96 on Monday so I dont think It will be too soon, but who knows
Telstra reps get confused easily
The Telstra stores and also the business side easily get confused. I regularly deal with a very senior corporate mobile person in Telstra and he refers to the diamond as the pro. They have no immediate plans for the TP. Their preference is the Sony as an exclusive deal. It's all about carrying devices you cant get elsewhere and creating the perception of being different.
I have a TP and use a Next G sim in it. It only gets UMTS (900+2100) and GSM (900+1800). The phone easily roams to 3 which is half telstra 'owned' anyway and I have H coverage for my data almost continuously, occasionaly it drops back to Edge.
Hopefully, they will get the TP 850, I remain ever hopeful.!
Oh well, i bit the bullett and ordered a fuze. Should be here sometime between xmas/new year.
Ill let you know how it goes. I just couldnt hold out any longer. It seems telstra are getting the X1 not the touch pro
Hi all,
Just received the HTC Fuze from Mobicity, and dropped in a Telstra Next G sim and all works fine.
I used the guide below to get HSPDA working, (disabled by default as some of you know)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459335
Use the following settings for the telstra.wap:
Connection name: Telstra.Wap
Data Bearer: GPRS/Packet Data
Access Point Name (or APN): telstra.wap
USERNAME: (Leave Blank)
Password: (Leave Blank)
Authentication: Normal
Proxy: 10.1.1.181
Proxy> Advanced >WAP: 10.1.1.150:9201
Proxy> Advanced >Socks: 10.1.1.181:1080
Having problems with telstra.corp (authentication issues) for those wanting to have it join thier company WAN, but will let you know how that goes. Will flash and use another radio if I have to.
Oh MY GOD! There is someone out there wit a FUze on NextG! Rom/radio trials? Any good?
mynameisplayer said:
Oh MY GOD! There is someone out there wit a FUze on NextG! Rom/radio trials? Any good?
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I popped my mums telstra sim card in and it appears to work fine
yeah but is she nextg? or just gsm? my touch pro runs fine with my telsra sim, but only gsm. ive got "3g" up on my fuze....after olipro sim unlock...
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I'm planning on ditching Sprint for ATT or T-Mobile because I cant get any international texts. Sprint claims its an issue with the international carriers. However, I was with T-Mob for years with the same number and I got tects from, England, Ireland, Germany, Nigeria etc.
Anyway, does anyone know of a good unlocked HTC PDA phone that will work with ATTs HSDPA(yeah I know about the tilt but it sucks). Any ideas please?
if ur willing to suffer for another month or two, the new Diamond is coming out for tmobile, which (except for battery time) is gonna be a whole new breed of ppc. if ur willing to switch to tmobile then yay for u, especially since tmobile is coming out with new 3G thats faster than ATT. if not im sure that there'll be a way to unlock it within 2 weeks of release. anyway good luck.
I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.
alabij said:
I've been eyeing the HTC Cruise(Polaris) lately. Actually I've spent the last 3 hours researching it and i think I'll make the jump. It's gonna force me to go to ATT since it will only work on their 3G spectrum.
It might just be me but I'm not intrigued by the diamond. The only upside is has above the Cruise is the today UI, which I'm sure wil be ported over as a cab once the diamond is released.
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Well the diamond also has a faster processor and 4x the resolution screen as well as more ram compared to the Cruise.
www.expansys.com sell unlock phones in many countries
and diamond dont have 4X resolution it got 2X
if it had 4X it would be a 1280x960 device
Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
north american version has passed your ffc fcc? federal communication ...
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Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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Well I don't know whether to be happy or said :S and i hope the X1 wont outperform it.
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
I will snoop around on my side and report anything to this thread with any positive news.
Lol, I would say they're that bad , however i can imagine them releasing it sometimes in Q4 (October-ish?) or early Q1 of next year.
I thought CDMA version is coming out first for Verizon. or was it for Sprint... I read it somewhere in Engadget or BGR.
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
Why does the US seem to get this stuff last? I blame it on the carrier cartel that refuses to adopt the mobile phone industry models the rest of the world has.
If the only experience with HTC i had was my wizard, I'd be all over the Raphael. I paid 588USD for the tilt (off-contract) and get the shaft from them. Now, I'm up for a phone upgrade, and I'd really, really like to get my hands on this device, but I don't know if I trust them anymore.
Still LOOKS kickass, though.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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That hos nothing to do with it. Verizon, Tmobile, and all the US carriers can pick up the phone. Whether another carrier decides to pick it up or not doesn't mean that ATT wont.
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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i have talked to a certain someone... might not have to wait a couple of days to prove this person wrong...
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Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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I would be VERY surprised if the Raph couldnt be sorted out like this, remember the Hermes didnt have necessary bands for telstra in AU which was eventually sorted with a hack to allow the necessary frequency to be used.
Details details people, if AT&T were going to use it i imagine the bands situation would be trivial, im sure they are going to carry it.
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this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
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Why would they call it a "Tilt"? The Touch Pro's screen doesn't tilt like the Kaiser does it?
lavalamp said:
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
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You and I can hope but I'm 98% sure you're right. Trends point to AT&T releasing this sometime next year, as to not disturb the X1 and without the front facing cam. Right now it seems like Sprint is going to get this first as they're getting the Diamond sometime in September.
OK well lets just say in a matter of days we shall see if AT&T WILL be carrying the Raphael..............or not.
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm that the Kaiser can fully utilize 3g data on the TMobile US 3g network? I have seen several (old) articles that pre-date the release of the Kaiser saying it may be the 'first 3g windows mobile phone available'. I have the opportunity to get an AT&T tilt from someone I know, but before I go through the process of unlocking the sim and flashing the ROM I'd like to know if it is worth my while. I've been waiting for the pharos traveler 137 to be released for a few months now but I know that Tmobile has no interest in carrying it ( I talked to a few service reps, and they just play dumb and say they've never heard of pharos or a 3g capable WM phone). So without the plan upgrade discount the phone is going to be $600, all for the luxury of using the 3g network on a phone that actually supports msexchange email.
between aardvark ( company developing ms direct push app for android), the pharos smartphone, and getting info on this TyTn II i feel like I've been doing a whole lot of waiting for a phone that has what I feel are two very basic features nowadays on other networks
Comments appreciated,
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Hi all,
Can anyone confirm that the Kaiser can fully utilize 3g data on the TMobile US 3g network? I have seen several (old) articles that pre-date the release of the Kaiser saying it may be the 'first 3g windows mobile phone available'. I have the opportunity to get an AT&T tilt from someone I know, but before I go through the process of unlocking the sim and flashing the ROM I'd like to know if it is worth my while. I've been waiting for the pharos traveler 137 to be released for a few months now but I know that Tmobile has no interest in carrying it ( I talked to a few service reps, and they just play dumb and say they've never heard of pharos or a 3g capable WM phone). So without the plan upgrade discount the phone is going to be $600, all for the luxury of using the 3g network on a phone that actually supports msexchange email.
between aardvark ( company developing ms direct push app for android), the pharos smartphone, and getting info on this TyTn II i feel like I've been doing a whole lot of waiting for a phone that has what I feel are two very basic features nowadays on other networks
Comments appreciated,
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Works Good Dude!! i'm in CT, in USA and have used a kaiser with my tmobile sim, works faster
unfortunately, you get Edge only. Few PPC's have tmob 3G off the wall 1700/2100 mhz radio combo. The G1 has it, and maybe a few other New PPC's.
I live in Australia and I'm thinking about buying a Touch Pro from USA since it seems cheaper. I was wondering is there anything I have to look out for that might stop it form working here. Eg. Network issues.
I'm thinking about this one
Hi,
The phone in the link operates on the CDMA network, you'll want the GSM version (the one that uses a simcard). It is also network locked and will need to be hacked/unlocked.
Very cheap though...
Thanks
Some of them say A & T service required for some of the features. What does that mean?
you don't really need to "hack" it. just get someone to create your unlock code for you. you can get it here on xda or even ebay. I believe olinex can provide you the unlock code for a price. I can gaurantee that these guys here at xda are very helpful so dont' worry about that too much.
you should think about what band your provider in aus is using.
Good luck!
EDIT: those "features" are ATT specific and you can make those disappear. check the links on "unbloating" your phone. It's pretty annoying but it does not do anything for your phone if you don't use ATT's network. Check out the thread on flashing for beginners. Read it carefully and if you have questions, be very specific.
Thanks for the help. I been using a jasjam (hermes) with a flashed rom but the hermes is in bad condition so thinking about getting a new phone.
Dood, I'm in Aus and also upgraded to Touch Pro from JasJam.
A warning. You will not get Telstra NextG video calls. The touch pro does not operate on Telstra's band. Just in case you were/are a Telstra man...
Also, you should be able to ebay a cheap as new unit in Australia... I've seen many go for under $300.
A brand new phone for less that $300???
What are you searching "HTC touch pro"?
Touch Pro or Fuze in Australia?
Mate, check the 3G/UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA frequencies used by your provider!!!
The TP AND the Fuze will work AS PHONE in almost any GSM network (beside some Asian countries i.e. Japan) since they are 4 band GSM devices. However, using the benefits of high speed data aka 3G you have to check which band your provider is using. AFAIK Telstra is using 850/1900 which matches the ATT US network while t-mobile and the std. TP use 900/2100. IF you are with Telstra get a Fuze and it will work. People here in the US buy the HD (not offered here in the US by ATT) in Australia to operate it in the US network.
Good luck and don't get screwed.
All the U.S. Cdma carriers were late with the first wave of wp7 devices. I'm with Verizon and we didn't get the HTC Trophy until June. Sprint got HTC arrive a couple month earlier but by the time those devices were released in the U.S. they were already year old devices.
So 6 months later GSM is getting the roll out of the mango phones with front facing cameras and those of us with cdma arrives and trophies are looking with no signs of a cdma wp7 with a ff cam in sight. What gives?
How come HTC and Samsung aren't making cdma variants of their phones they give carriers and bringing them to cdma carriers? Like how they brought variants of the HTC touch pro 2 and the HTC evo to all the carriers?
Anyone else getting angry with the lackluster cdma support? Why aren't they launching more phones than just the ones that seemingly come out annually?
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My bet is that Sprint and Verizon are effectively done with bringing CDMA phones to market and they don't want a new phone unless it is an iPhone or 4G (LTE and/or WiMax).
I expect Verizon phones once LTE support hits with Tango.
It'll be spring.
I, for one, am really happy VZW got a 3G WP7 phone. I am in an area that prob will get LTE in the LAST phase of any roll out (we got 3G in Oct 2010). I was also able to get it before the end of unlimited data.
What is killing me isn't carrier support, but hack support. I would love to developed a ROM for the HTC Trophy, but I have the CDMA Verizon version, and it has yet to be unlocked.
I know part of this is that the unlock devs are in China and do not have access to the CDMA Trophy.. but it seems no one wants to get together and buy/send them a Trophy CDMA to work on. :/
I know I can't afford it myself.. and for some reason the price has increased on Amazon Wireless (the phone alone was going for $388, now its $479)... but perhaps if a bunch of us chipped in we could send them one.
I have talked to mwang and cotulla and offered to buy them both Verizon trophies . They have both told me that they have cdma devices in hand and are currently testing .. I know it's taking a while , but the good news is that it IS being worked on . I want a DFT rom as bad as anyone ...hell id settle for interop unlock .. I suppose we just have to be patient .
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Well, it's good to know that its a work in progress. I just pray that the unlock will be based on the 7.5 rom.. many people got burnt by installing the demo rom... (well, maybe you could base it on the demo rom??). The only way to get rid of the demo rom was to install the leaked 7.5 rom (I was refused RMA because of the demo).
Oh well, if I have to go back to the demo just to unlock, I'll pray that is a workable option (many can't unlock after getting 7.5 roms).
Well, there simply are much less CDMA carriers in the world than there are GSM/UMTS ones. Given that Verizon and Sprint seem not to be too much into WP7 that explains why developing those devices is a low priority to the manufacturers.
It is a bit strange considering the Sprint Touch Pro/TP2 were the more popular devices back in the WM days then any of the other carrier devices. Now with the Arrive being almost a direct successor of the Touch Pro 2, you would think it would have gotten the same dedicated treatment, sadly, this is not the case. I do hope Sprint continues with the Arrive and whatever comes next has the same keyboard and a more refined design with the Titan like upgrades.
A 4" screen with the same keyboard, 1.5Ghz processor, and all the other Mango bells and whistles would be grand.
The most frank response is very simple:
The entire world uses GSM.
I know of all of two, maybe three countries where there are even CDMA networks. If I was making a phone, I wouldn't even be thinking about CDMA unless I was selling millions of units and expansion was easiest by using the inferior (whether true or not technologically, CMDA is inferior in a pure business sense) technology.
I know this is true too.
I can't wait for LTE to roll out and put Verizon on the same playing field as most of the world, but I also know that my area will likely be the last, even if it is being used as the primary example of how broadband internet needs to be pushed out to rural areas.
I mean, the other carriers in this area just plain don't care. Dial 16407 as the zipcode into the AT&T and Sprint coverage areas, and you'll see that neither has even got 3G up and running in this area.. let alone 4G! T-Mobile = non-existent.
I can't even get DSL on my outer rims road because Verizon (which just happens to be my land line provider) won't run DSL down it because of a massive farm that takes up the first 1/3 of this section of road!?!
Anyone who says "just move" is ignorant and should be shot.