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I'm posting this here as opposed to a general forum, because I've found that Opera performs differently on my Touch Pro as compared to my 6700 that was replaced.
On my 6700, when using Opera - I'd regularly get to the full websites I'd see on a desktop, and not mobile versions.
On my Sprint Touch Pro - I'm regularly being routed to mobile versions. For example, cbs sportsline, and ebay.
Is there a setting that I can change somewhere, perhaps in the registry - that would allow me to access full websites and not mobile versions?
I'm also having this problem. I've upgraded opera from what ever it was stock to 2392. I've also changed the custom user agent under user preferences on opera:config to Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0; en).
This allowed me to view some pages in desktop mode but not all. The setting MOBILE VIEW in opera settings is unchecked, it doesn't matter if it is or not. I had the Touch before and i had opera mobile 9.5 beta 1 installed and it brought up desktop sites by default. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Isn't there an option for this in Schap's Advanced Config? Try downloading that and using it. I had always installed that first before using the browser so that may be why I never noticed the same issue as you.
I'm pretty sure AC3 useragent option points to PIE, not Opera.
By default Opera should be configured to load the full desktop page. It's possible Sprint has some proxy work going on behind the scenes. Do you get the same mobile versions when you load pages over wifi?
sorry guys,
I forgot to check back in here. But I found the solution on another forum. Check posts 4 and 9 here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=41779&highlight=opera
Opera's now working just as I'd hoped.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
sorry guys,
I forgot to check back in here. But I found the solution on another forum. Check posts 4 and 9 here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=41779&highlight=opera
Opera's now working just as I'd hoped.
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Try BBC.com, 'cause for me it still redirects to their mobile site. I'm using build 2745 btw. Odd thing is that i briefly tried 9.51b2 and that goes to bbc.com fine (no mobile site).
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Try BBC.com, 'cause for me it still redirects to their mobile site. I'm using build 2745 btw. Odd thing is that i briefly tried 9.51b2 and that goes to bbc.com fine (no mobile site).
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I think I might have cracked it on Build 2745. As well as the settings in Opera:config mentioned in the links in the posts above, you need to edit the opera.ini file. You should find a couple of lines looking something like this:
UAProf URL=http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/diamond-1.0.xml
UAProf URL Enabled=1
Change the second line to:
UAProf URL Enabled=0
Works for me
Only Mobile Sites
I'm also getting only mobile, specifically 2 I am checking are www.yahoo.com and www.cbs.sportsline.com and they are both constantly forwarded to mobile sites.
I've made changes in about:config, I made sure to hit save and also got a pop up confirming it.
I went into opera.ini and I see first line mentioned, but I don't see the 2nd anywhere that says UAProf Enabled = 1 to change to 0, just not seeing it there on mine.
Looks like I'm stuck, but I'd much rather see all normal websites, PIE I can use to get wap sites just fine, I'd like Opera to render real sites.
Can't claim to be an expert I'm afraid, so there's not too much more info I can offer.
There are four key things you should check:
1. Do you have build 2745? I was present in the ini file that seemed to come along with this build after full install - all bets are off for other builds
2. In Opera:Config check that you have set User Agent-Spoof UserAgent ID to 3 - I suspect lots of others will work but 3 worked for me. It is only spoofing the user agent type and I'm not sure how key it is to success. Be sure to save the change though
3. Make sure you set something suitable under User Preferences-Custom User Agent
4. Check the ini file for the lines mentioned or something similar. If it isn't there and you have the same build as I did, that would be worrying! As another thought, you could try adding the line - backup first of course
It's a real pain so I hope you get this sorted out soon
On 2392
Build 2392 came native on the Fuze that I just got. I put 2745 on my 8525/Hermes last week and it worked pretty well except for some issues with the keyboard not recognizing at first.
I've hard reset 6 times now trying to get something else working, which is more than likely a problem with our 2003 exchange, so I'll put on 2745 and see if it works correctly. I've made all the changes, not sure why this build won't work, but I'm not overly excited about the performance anyway.
herg62123 Opera 2745 build upgraded on Fuze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252&highlight=2745&page=12
Post 115 has the details for Opera upgrade to a current release, build 2745
herg62123 posted the 2745 build, and it's really awesome. I put it on my fuze with all the directions from post 115 that have it updated for VGA.
I can now go to the normal websites and not always get pushed to the mobile sites, which I did everything to fix, and none of the many great suggestions seemed to work. I think it was well worth doing, if I wanted to look at wap pages I'll use PIE.
I'm still looking for ways to change the link that the Globe opens on the Internet tab on TF3D on my Fuze. It goes to http://device.hom/ which is a dead link of some sorts. And no, changing the home page in settings and every other good suggestion doesn't change what that globe launches. The links under it are just favorites in Opera, all good. Not sure if others are annoyed by this.
I can't seem to find this opera.ini file. Which folder is it located at and how do I edit it? Do I need some other kind of software? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
iain.fraser said:
I think I might have cracked it on Build 2745. As well as the settings in Opera:config mentioned in the links in the posts above, you need to edit the opera.ini file. You should find a couple of lines looking something like this:
UAProf URL=http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/diamond-1.0.xml
UAProf URL Enabled=1
Change the second line to:
UAProf URL Enabled=0
Works for me
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This is the last step that I needed to get Opera to work like i wanted it too. Thank you very much. I did everything else, Custom user agent, upgrading opera to 2745, changing spoofing agent, this was the final piece to the puzzle. Now I just need to get flash to work and Opera will be wonderous!!
HAH! Flash working with Opera? Good luck with that one!
Glad it worked for you - it was driving me crazy until I found the solution. I've had the same issue with various different builds and each time the solution has been different!
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I'm still looking for ways to change the link that the Globe opens on the Internet tab on TF3D on my Fuze. It goes to http://device.hom/ which is a dead link of some sorts. And no, changing the home page in settings and every other good suggestion doesn't change what that globe launches. The links under it are just favorites in Opera, all good. Not sure if others are annoyed by this.
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Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2912474&postcount=3 post to change the location.
ok opera 9.5 is really pissing me off and i absolutely hate the fact that every time i load a new link i have to double click to zoom back in and see waht im looking for. I also hate the fact that in order to view what tabs i have open i have to click on that little box at the bottm and play a gusesing game as to what the tabs opened are.
opera 8.65 also had an option to click in the settings to recognize your device as a handheld or as a desktop computer which solved the ever so rampant problem people are complaining about with 9.5 of the browser not recognizing full html sites and defaulting to mobile versions. you shouldnt have to edit the god damn registry and screw with at many settings JUST in order to visit the full version of a webpage! opera prides themselves at giving you the true full internet experience but little do they tell you that its up to you to screw with your phone and figure out how!
anyways, i was just wondering if anyone like me had gotten fed up with this latest installment of opera and reverted back to the previous version that ACTUALLY had all the good bells and whistles that worked properly?
shade
While I agree with your points, its really the best option at the moment outside of Skyfire. To be honest Skyfire to Touchscreen phones is not what it was for Smartphones, its just not that refined/accurate/reliable/fast yet. Hopefully when full VGA comes out to Skyfire we can really dump Opera for good (kidding).
Opera also needs to understand that people want flexibility with the scroll wheel on the bottom of the phone. Why zoom when I could scroll down the page and double tap zoom if necessary. Why not also adjust the sensitivity of the screen to not always zooom out everytime I'm
shadeone said:
ok opera 9.5 is really pissing me off and i absolutely hate the fact that every time i load a new link i have to double click to zoom back in and see waht im looking for. I also hate the fact that in order to view what tabs i have open i have to click on that little box at the bottm and play a gusesing game as to what the tabs opened are.
opera 8.65 also had an option to click in the settings to recognize your device as a handheld or as a desktop computer which solved the ever so rampant problem people are complaining about with 9.5 of the browser not recognizing full html sites and defaulting to mobile versions. you shouldnt have to edit the god damn registry and screw with at many settings JUST in order to visit the full version of a webpage! opera prides themselves at giving you the true full internet experience but little do they tell you that its up to you to screw with your phone and figure out how!
anyways, i was just wondering if anyone like me had gotten fed up with this latest installment of opera and reverted back to the previous version that ACTUALLY had all the good bells and whistles that worked properly?
shade
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i was going to dump this phone because of how crappy opera mobile was. luckily i tried opera mini and its amazing compared to opera mobile. try it, you'll love it
I Am Running Opera 8.65 On Fuze
I installed 8.65 on my Fuze storage card using the normal CAB from their website. I had a licensed version on my Tilt and transferred the license. I do miss the scroll-wheel-to-zoom feature but not much else as I have been using 8.65 for a while now and am quite comfortable with it. Turns out the original Opera is still in main memory (\Windows\OperaL.exe) so I can run either. Plus I have Skyfire installed as well. Frankly, none of them work well for every site and I move between them and even PIE depending on what I am doing.
Peter
try typing "opera:config" without the quotes obviously into the address bar, with NO http:// in front... many... many settings where you can change around what you want. Opera 9.5 is by far the BEST web browser out there where now as even the iPhone Safari can not perform the same actions.
what about the mobile view in opera 9.5? i thought it did a good job..felt like a better version of 8.65.
"mobile view" on the newest opera (9.5) jsut makes it so that everything ont he page fits in a single column, this has NOTHING to do with mobile loaded sites versus the full html sites.
ive messed around with the opera:config settings and none of them result in making my yahoo homepage come up with the real one that will allow me to do waht i need to do with yahoo.
i think i will take the suggestion of installinf the old version on my storage card so that i have the best of both worlds. god damnit i really wish skyfire would get their act together and give us waht we want instead of just making something barely usable so they can say they have "vga support".... bastards.
shade
skyfox99. Thank you for the good tip to configure Opera. However do you know where there is list of explainations and recommendations for the various settings? It would be great to hear what setting others use and why/how it improves Opera.
Thanks.
Joe
I went back too
I hate the default browser too and reverted to 8.65. If you search here, there is link showing how to make any browser default in the Browser Tab of TF3D.
double tap should centre the zoom-in on the point of tap, not a few inches away. For example, if i am looking at an xda thread on my phone and want to go to the next page, I am looking at the "Page 1 of 8 < 2 3 4 5 > Last". I would double tap on this, my phone will ALWAYS zoom in 1.5 screens to the left, so I have to do 2 scrolls to the right
My other serious issue with this browser is the SIP always comes up on certain websites, even though I am not touching any text boxes, in fact usually happens while page is still loading. I have disables auto SIP popup in advanced config, its just a glitch in opera 9.5
Hi,
I have tryed every browser available for the HD2 and EVERY SINGLE ONE is TOTAL GARBAGE!!!
I mean whats the point of having a phone like this with web capability, if you cant do something simple like text selection...I mean sure the option is there but it doesnt actually work if you need to select text that spans more than 1 screen.
I have to use Opera for ebay, IE for gmail, skyfire for general browsing.
Its ABSOLUTELY pathetic that this is a web phnoe, and it doesnt have a SINGLE web browser that works!
Can someone suggest anything, and please dont suggest using a laptop!! lol
MG
MysticGenius said:
Hi,
I have tryed every browser available for the HD2 and EVERY SINGLE ONE is TOTAL GARBAGE!!!
I mean whats the point of having a phone like this with web capability, if you cant do something simple like text selection...I mean sure the option is there but it doesnt actually work if you need to select text that spans more than 1 screen.
I have to use Opera for ebay, IE for gmail, skyfire for general browsing.
Its ABSOLUTELY pathetic that this is a web phnoe, and it doesnt have a SINGLE web browser that works!
Can someone suggest anything, and please dont suggest using a laptop!! lol
MG
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Capacitive phones aren't really the best for accurately selecting large portions of text. I myself use Opera 10 and while it might not always work perfectly it's still by far the best browser out there. You just need to be careful when selecting your text(I have no problem selecting more than one page, but it's a very painful and slow procedure). Also tweaking the touch sensitivity to max helps a lot.
MysticGenius said:
EVERY SINGLE ONE is TOTAL GARBAGE!!!
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i wouldnt go that far ... i find myself sticking to Opera 10 for most things and skyfire for flash.... that uZard browser that appeared out of nowhere doesnt work at all for me.
I just got my htc hd2 a couple days ago and so far ive got it all modded out just like i want it but i have one problem left to fix.
I dont really like Opera that much and call me weird but ive always prefered IE for both mobile and desktop. Most of the time Ie works flawless for me but every once in a while a website will load with massive fonts... and its not all the fonts. (the links and other things stay the same size) When i go into the settings and change the font size it doesnt help and when i zoom out it makes the links and stuff microscopic. I have also set my phone to be in mobile view... no help and i tried desktop view... no help.
Ive been looking for an answer to this for some time and the only solutions i can find are people saying to zoom out or change the font size in the settings.
If this has already been asked im sorry but i couldnt find it... ANY help would be appreciated.
hi,
put 2 fingers in the middle of the screen and move them to up and down edges. same zooming in all programs where it necessary, photo, office, acrobat etc. zoom here use for initial opening and after adjust as you like.
All the best.
psergejs said:
hi,
put 2 fingers in the middle of the screen and move them to up and down edges. same zooming in all programs where it necessary, photo, office, acrobat etc. zoom here use for initial opening and after adjust as you like.
All the best.
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Thanks for the reply but if im correct the 2 finger zoom in and out only works in opera and im lookin for Internet explorer.
Ty tho
Weird
It may just be a rendering issue; if it's just some parts of some pages (of some sites?), it may be that the page has a layout defined via a .CSS stylesheet and IE is not able to render it correctly? The mobile version of IE, whilst it's waaayyyy better on WM6.5 than it was on 6.0 and 5.0, "it aint' all that" ..... which is why lots of people use Opera.
Does the screwy page you get in IE render OK if you open it with Opera?? Might be worth comparing pages in the two browsers - and if Opera is OK, check the page using IE on your desktop PC to see if it's ok on there.
Just a couple of suggestions ..... sorry it's not a solution
Cheers,
Mark.
no the screwy pages are only on IE... for instance this website has the problem...
The reason i dont use opera is because it often doesk funky website layouts and thats the reason i got rid of my old phone.
I would like to know if browser web pages can be cached some kind of way so they don't reload every time you press the back button. It sucks up so much data for no reason. Also I would like to know if there is a way to make the keyboard spell out I'll automatically rather than spelling ill every time. Are these problems able to be fixed in settings or does the rom have to made that way?
Kevc44485 said:
I would like to know if browser web pages can be cached some kind of way so they don't reload every time you press the back button. It sucks up so much data for no reason. Also I would like to know if there is a way to make the keyboard spell out I'll automatically rather than spelling ill every time. Are these problems able to be fixed in settings or does the rom have to made that way?
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Well, give the mediocre RAM on our phones, I doubt that caching is possible.
Also, caching would still cause a delay because of the need to seek & fetch.
I think you added ill to the personal dictionary because I'll comes up automatically for me.. Have the spell check option enabled too (In settings).
Thanks for the reply but no ill is not in my personal dictionary. And opera mobile and other browsers cache web pages. I think the stock browser works good so I would like to use it over any other one.
Kevc44485 said:
Thanks for the reply but no ill is not in my personal dictionary. And opera mobile and other browsers cache web pages. I think the stock browser works good so I would like to use it over any other one.
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I also told you to turn on spell check. This will fix the problem with 'ill'.
Settings>Language & Keyboard>HTC Sense Input>Advanced Settings>Spell correction (in Sense 4.0)