Should my Mom flash her Fuze? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

OK, so I've been building up the Fuze as a replacement for my moms blackjack which she's had for years and hates. I have a tilt, and love the added functionality and features that flashing it has brought (M2D to name a huge one). I would be doing the flashing of my Mom's phone, and she lives about 4 hours away, so just far enough that I don't get to see her that often. (hence not able to fix things easily for her if they don't work right)
As soon as she can get her hands on a fuze, she's getting it. Would flashing it to a ROM from here give any benefit to HER (ie she is not too technical and would she see any difference?) or should I just leave "well-enough" alone and tell her to enjoy her new phone?
Thanks guys

Shinare said:
OK, so I've been building up the Fuze as a replacement for my moms blackjack which she's had for years and hates. I have a tilt, and love the added functionality and features that flashing it has brought (M2D to name a huge one). I would be doing the flashing of my Mom's phone, and she lives about 4 hours away, so just far enough that I don't get to see her that often. (hence not able to fix things easily for her if they don't work right)
As soon as she can get her hands on a fuze, she's getting it. Would flashing it to a ROM from here give any benefit to HER (ie she is not too technical and would she see any difference?) or should I just leave "well-enough" alone and tell her to enjoy her new phone?
Thanks guys
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i mean if she doesn't care than it really doesn't matter. This way if God forbid something happens to the phone she can just take back to warranty for replacement without first having it reverted back to stock.
However, imo a clean light cooked rom will help her have a more speedy device

There's not a clean light ROM developed for the "Fuze" yet? Atleast, I didn't think there was.

I'd never let my mum get a WM phone. Mum phones have got to come from Sainsburys or Woolworths and can't cost any more than £19.99

and i'm not so sure if your mom appreciates you asking if she should flash her fuze in public like this...
can't help with the phone issue either..sorry....

OMG...
the mere thought of that title makes my stomach twist...
Did you actually read the title before you put it up?

i've been just keeping my mouth shut

fllysurfer said:
the mere thought of that title makes my stomach twist...
Did you actually read the title before you put it up?
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hahaha.... funny....
my 2 cents, do not flash anything because if you happen to buy a lemon, you won't have warenty to fix or exchange and let ur mom try using it first on the stock speed and apps..... because she wont be able to apprecite the flash if she's never tried the origional.

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Effects of ROM Flashing

Hi all,
Does anyone know of any ill effects that ROM Flashing may have on the 8925? Specifically, is there any issue with continually flashing the device -- any possibility of corrupting anything and not being able to flash any ROM?
Just curious as I've been testing quite a few ROMs and I'm thinking of start testing my own ROMs just for the learning process.
Appreciate any feedback.
-Mike
ecltech said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know of any ill effects that ROM Flashing may have on the 8925? Specifically, is there any issue with continually flashing the device -- any possibility of corrupting anything and not being able to flash any ROM?
Just curious as I've been testing quite a few ROMs and I'm thinking of start testing my own ROMs just for the learning process.
Appreciate any feedback.
-Mike
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For what i know, you can do till 100.000 write operations to NAND flash, so don't care about the number of flash you make
The real risk if not having the HardSPL...
Cheers.
jcepsi2005,
Just wanted to make sure.
Thanks for the reply.
-Mike
Every time you flash a device, a baby kitten dies. Please do it sparingly.
Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!
^^ for sure
What about a black out during flashing.... on a desktop with out ups ???
Is bootloader a real protection?
I'm pretty sure there's a way around flashing a device that's had the power cut half way through. You can still get to the bootloader and flash again. Something to do with MTTY...if I remember rightly.
Could be wrong though.
Besides the increasing addiction to this site, you're probably OK. Personally I'd suggest that anyone using a PC to flash anything should consider using a UPS, a power bump is never a good thing and UPS's are pretty cheap insurance.
Since I like to cook and flash alot (as you may know if you've been hanging around the Kaiser upgrade forums ), I've managed to disconnect my device more than a couple of times while flashing. I also managed to cause a short in my USB cable that caused my laptop to reboot every time ActiveSync began transferring files, which was *REALLY* fun when flashing until I figured out what was causing it...
Getting back on topic, as long as you installed OliPro/Pof's HardSPL there is nothing to fear. All you have to do is press the reset button with the camera button to bring up the boot menu and re-flash.
There are other 'advanced' cases of flash failure which I have not encountered, which will require the use of mtty.
goestoeleven said:
Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!
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AMEN......wife looks at me suspicious everytime I get on this site!
^^ Your's too.
Your wives only shoot you a look? Lucky bastards...
the rom can take all the flashing...flashing your life away, thats a different story.
Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!
Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"
My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"
That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah
jb
jbmorales said:
Holy crap! I thought I was the only one that was having issues with being on this site and the wifey getting all moody!
Maybe it was my response to her when she said to me "well since you spend so much time on that site and flicking and flashing that stupid phone then why don't you go live with it since you're always playing with it"
My response: "Maybe I will!...if only dutty can make a ROM for women then I would have more fun playing with you! Every time I get tired of you I would just flash a new ROM and have a totally different girl on the inside but the same beautiful exterior on the outside"
That comment landed me on the couch hence the reason why I'm posting at 2:20am...haahhah
jb
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If I didn't know better I'd say we married the same woman.
goestoeleven said:
Perhaps the biggest effect of flashing comes from the amount of time we all waste playing with our toy phones!
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And how many times our significant others scold us doing so.
tsadek said:
If I didn't know better I'd say we married the same woman.
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haha you know how they always say theres always another you on the other side of the world somewhere.
I currently have the AT&T original WM 6.0 Rom (minus bloatware). I want to upgrade to a WM 6.1 ROM but don't want to spend alot of time reinstalling software. If I backup with Sprite Backup, should it be relatively smooth? Does it matter if I go with a "plain" WM 6.1 ROM or one with alot of programs already on the ROM which I may or may not have on the Backup file? Thanks...
I think most of our wives have the same SPL Locked boot loader (Un flashable) Mine used to tease me about having some buttons installed before she finally gave up and left me to my toys..

Stock or custom ROM for my kid?

My daughters birthday is coming up in a few days (14 yrs old) and she wants a new phone as a gift. She lives with her mom 600 miles away and I don't get to see her or my youngest daughter as often as I like.
She has been bugging me about getting her an Iphone 4 as her mom has one and even though I have been telling her about my Cappy she has (as most preteen girls do) only hears what she wants. Iphone, Iphone, Iphone dad!!!!
Well, they have arrived for thier holiday visit with me and it only took about 5 minutes of tinkering with my Captivate and she is hooked. (She's a smart kid. )
So since she has an upgrade available (on my plan) a Captivate it will be.
I have been pondering whether to leave it stock or installing a custom ROM on it for her. But I want it and need it to be bullet proof since, as I mentioned, she is 3 states away and if the phone fails with a custom ROM I will not be there to fix it. If I leave it stock, I know it will be more reliable, and if it is not, a visit to her local ATT service center will get her back in business.
I have not had 2.1 on my phone for months and I have forgotten the big differences between it and Froyo. The differences I do remember are less lag, and more features like MobileAP and HSUPA. HSUPA and lag fix being the only things she will notice. I am sure the only uses the phone will provide for her will be texting and internet.
I am currently running Axura 2.5 and have had it running longer than any ROM I have used in the past couple of months. I feel like that if I put this on her phone it will give her reliable service and no need for any attention until her next visit (Spring Break) and by then 2.3 will, I am sure be in full swing and I can find a stable version of that to upgrade her phone to.
I am battling with myself on what to do. I want her to be happy with the phone and not wish she had chosen the Iphone a week after having the cappy and I believe putting something better than eclair on it will keep her happy. But at the same time I don't want it to be buggy and aggrivating for her, and again wishing she had gotten the Iphone.
What should I do? What am I not thinking of that would sway my decision one way or the other?
Thanks in advance. Happy New Year.
If it aint broke.............
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If she played around with your custom ROM Captivate, and you give her one with a stock ROM, she's gonna hate you.
Keep it stock.. maybe do a theme or something small to change the appearance, but overall when update are available, I'm sure she just wants to download the update..not run odin and flash roms - she's a kid
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born_fisherman said:
Keep it stock.. maybe do a theme or something small to change the appearance, but overall when update are available, I'm sure she just wants to download the update..not run odin and flash roms - she's a kid
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Agreed... I use Launcher Pro, but maybe give her a theme-able launcher so that she can freshen up her interface once in a while. Hell... she may even like the iPhone-ish Touch-Wiz, but... blah... I hope not.
Happy New Year to you as well.
maybe its time to introduce her to XDA and the joys of rooting/flashing/custom roms. A kid that age will pick it up very quick if they have the slightest bit interest.
custom ROM.. she'll know if its stock.
why don't you give her your phone and geta new one yourself
just saying ......happy new year to you as well!
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You can't go wrong with Assonance. From my experience its just as stable as stock. I'd probably keep her clocked at 1000ghz w/ no under voltage though.
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keep it stock. If she shows any interest at all in custom roms, direct her here.
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Update to a 2.2.1 rom.
i would get her the iphone. honestly.
a.vandelay said:
i would get her the iphone. honestly.
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If your serious, why are you on here?
Thanks for all of the replies guys. She was dead set on the Cappy so that is what she got. I made her play around with stock for almost a day. And believe me, she wore it out. She tested everything and had the phone figured out pretty quick. I then let her mess around with mine again and it was just a few minutes she felt the difference between the ROM's. Mainly the lag and speed of the modem like I knew she would. So I put Axura on it and she is over the moon.
I would love for her to get into the technical side of it but even though she likes techy stuff like her dad, she doesn't want to fix it, she just wants to drive it.
I plan to keep an update.zip (not needed I know with the built in CWM but just in case), and the Axura ROM zip, renamed "ROM_Recovery.zip" on the internal SD and show her how to reflash if something goes wrong.
To be honest I was really surprised that she chose Android over the Iphone as, like her mother, she is all about the status of something versus quality. All of her friends including her mom has an Iphone 4 and I knew that the video chat would be the deal breaker. She has put more mileage on her mom's phone than her mom has so there is a statement of how much better Android really is when a 14 year old drama queen see's the difference
Of course, my daughter has always had a type-A personality and never really been a follower. She might be trying to set a trend. If sales of the Captivate rise suddenly in her area then I would bet I know why.
Thanks again guys. HNY
Scottbg1 said:
If your serious, why are you on here?
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because i'm not a 14 year old girl who wants an iphone who lives far away from her dad when her phone breaks. the same reason i install windows vista on my friends computers when they ask me to instead of convincing them they need linux because i have some tricked out configuration. i have a friend who just got an android phone for a college graduation gift and didn't know how to set the wallpaper (using the orange resize box), delete old sms messages, and other common stuff. why? because no one reads manuals and there's no commercial that shows me how to use my android phone. people who never owned an iphone know more about it from watching a hand on tv than she does owning an android phone.
what if something goes wrong (defective phone) and she needs to take it back to at&t and she can't flash it back to stock? i can't imagine a 14 year old girl being happy about not having a phone for a few days, a week, or longer. and a captivate no less? it gives us fits, and we're supposed to be good at this stuff.
sure the iphone is crippled in comparison, but 1) it's an iphone, that's all kids care about, 2) the apple store will take care of her, 3) it's an iphone.
i mean no disrespect, that's just my opinion. i hope it works out for her, because if she does take the time it will benefit her .
You install vista on friends computers? Ouch. You must not like your friends too much.
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[Q] thinkin

ok im thint bad of king about switching to the g2x form my vibe and i was wondering is it really that bad of a phone. i keep reading all of these complaints and im wondering should i make the jump
Don't listen to what other people say. The phone is great, as long as it doesn't shutdown by itself. Screen bleed isn't as bad as people say. It's not noticeable with normal use... Only on a black background with Maximum Brightness, and in a dark room. It's blazing fast. Update baseband makes GPS lock instantly. Screen looks AMAZING. Build quality is really good as well. Don't forget that it runs stock Android... So development on this phone is great. Install any rooted 2.3.3 OTA ROM, or CyanogenMod 7.1 Nightly, and you're good to go.
omg thanks for yur input
As always, test one out in the store if you can. You might get a slightly different experience at home, though.
Just like there's plenty of phones with some problems, there's plenty of working ones as well.
G2toVibrant2.2 said:
omg thanks for yur input
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Haha, no problem.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Don't listen to what other people say. The phone is great, as long as it doesn't shutdown by itself. Screen bleed isn't as bad as people say. It's not noticeable with normal use... Only on a black background with Maximum Brightness, and in a dark room. It's blazing fast. Update baseband makes GPS lock instantly. Screen looks AMAZING. Build quality is really good as well. Don't forget that it runs stock Android... So development on this phone is great. Install any rooted 2.3.3 OTA ROM, or CyanogenMod 7.1 Nightly, and you're good to go.
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I think this statement says a lot. To say a phone is great when it's not malfunctioning says a lot about the phone. If I were the OP I would not take that as a vote of confidence. That being said, OP don't buy the G2X, it's fine I suppose if you're someone unfortunate to have already purchased it and can't get out of it, but I would hardly suggest jumping on board with it at this juncture. My advice is to just be patient and wait for the Hercules or Nexus Prime. The G2X is an unstable phone that reboots itself and freezes randomly. Why jump onto a sinking ship? There are better options just over the horizon, wait for those.
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I think this statement says a lot. To say a phone is great when it's not malfunctioning says a lot about the phone. If I were the OP I would not take that as a vote of confidence. That being said, OP don't buy the G2X, it's fine I suppose if you're someone unfortunate to have already purchased it and can't get out of it, but I would hardly suggest jumping on board with it at this juncture. My advice is to just be patient and wait for the Hercules or Nexus Prime. The G2X is an unstable phone that reboots itself and freezes randomly. Why jump onto a sinking ship? There are better options just over the horizon, wait for those.
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I don't have any of those problems....
JaiaV said:
I don't have any of those problems....
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Neither do I. The only problems I have are a useless FFC, glitchy A2DP, and an uncertain future.
Still... someone who comes here asking for advice and reassurance before purchasing a G2x is well served by strong words of caution. This is the unfortunate truth.
Awesome phone. I've gotten good ones and bad ones... In my experience there were more good then bad..once you get a good one, then in my opinion everything else sucks (that's available now in us.).
Don't listen to others saying no. I sold a vibrant for this and couldn't be happier. Even having gotten a bad few, I still love this device..
Just imagine every g2x line all the good ones.. I think it would be hard to beat.
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Awesome phone. I've gotten good ones and bad ones... In my experience there were more good then bad..once you get a good one, then in my opinion everything else sucks (that's available now in us.).
Don't listen to others saying no. I sold a vibrant for this and couldn't be happier. Even having gotten a bad few, I still love this device..
Just imagine every g2x line all the good ones.. I think it would be hard to beat.
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So the OP will have to buy a phone based on chance...?
Honestly, I've exchanged my phone once already (the only reason my first one went back is because I thought it had a faulty GPS...turns out they all do!) and I really don't want to be bothered calling T-Mobile every two days until I'm on my nth replacement to get one that actually works.
To the OP, honestly I think ever phone will have its own problems so you just gotta look at the forums to see which ones you can live with.
People's biggest complains with this phone is that:
It restarts randomly (FroYo and Gingerbread).
Has a screen bleed (although better in GB).
The GPS doesn't function the way it should (mostly people complaining from a bad lock on, I personally can't get it to stay locked on for an extended period of time, with RunKeeper it looks like I'm a drunk and spiking up to mountains and running over lakes).
EDIT: And the most annoying thing that happens to me since the GB update: slow downs into oblivion. The phone will become unusable at random times for a good 10 minutes, or until a battery pull (because I'm not able to shut it down since it is unresponsive)
Then there are some that don't experience any of this...
I say take everything people say with a grain of salt. Obviously people make rash comments that stem from their emotional instability. That being said. I recently purchased the G2x, after hearing a lot of complaining about it. YOu must realize, one is much more likely to go out of his way to make known a complaint, than a praise. Human nature I suppose.
The G2x I got, 2.3.3 July baseband, is flawless. It is an amazing phone. No restarts, no bleed, instant GPS lock.
Im not stating that there are bad phones out there, and I empathize with those that may have recieved a few, but let the first impressions go, and realize that they are not ALL bad.
Dude this phone is beast I had mind since launch and it works great everyday, u will be very happy, to the people still having trouble with there phones take it back get a new one and if its past the 14 days send it to LG u have a year
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So the OP will have to buy a phone based on chance...?
Honestly, I've exchanged my phone once already (the only reason my first one went back is because I thought it had a faulty GPS...turns out they all do!) and I really don't want to be bothered calling T-Mobile every two days until I'm on my nth replacement to get one that actually works.
To the OP, honestly I think ever phone will have its own problems so you just gotta look at the forums to see which ones you can live with.
People's biggest complains with this phone is that:
It restarts randomly (FroYo and Gingerbread).
Has a screen bleed (although better in GB).
The GPS doesn't function the way it should (mostly people complaining from a bad lock on, I personally can't get it to stay locked on for an extended period of time, with RunKeeper it looks like I'm a drunk and spiking up to mountains and running over lakes).
EDIT: And the most annoying thing that happens to me since the GB update: slow downs into oblivion. The phone will become unusable at random times for a good 10 minutes, or until a battery pull (because I'm not able to shut it down since it is unresponsive)
Then there are some that don't experience any of this...
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Bud u need a new phone man, slow? This phone is still super fast after not rebooting for 3 days and GPS is almost instant everytime man
From what I've noticed this phone will give you what yuu put in to it. Like a car. To me with a lil tweaking n upgrades its better n faster than my girls nexus s. And im still on the old baseband.....feel like I bought a charger sxt n put a srt8 engine in it....the only complain I gave is my 4g....I use so much data that im always getting slowed down...like I said just like a car...llz
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Avoid it.
I dont see how someone can suggest buying a phone that with a few exchanges you might end up with a good one. That makes no sense. My G1 out the box worked, my Mytouch out the box worked, my Nexus One out the box worked, my mytouch 4g out the box worked, hell my HD2 running Android works better than my G2X, and yes, I have tried several.
Dont get me wrong as I must say WHEN my G2X is running right its balls to the walls fast. I think its probably the fastest Android phone available...as long as I dont need GPS or the phone hasnt shut its self off (if I could be so lucky as to have mine reboot) its not bad, not bad at all. Unfortunately I need my GPS, I am a truck driver and rely on my GPS.
I think honestly its an issue with dual cores right now, I would wait for a bit like others have said and pick up something a bit later. Perhaps even wait for ICS since I believe that will be more optimized for dual and quads.
Its your gamble. If you dont mind possibly sending it back, trying out another one with the clear understanding that its a crap shoot at best if its going to work or not go for it. Me personally? I would not buy it again knowing what I know now and what I have been through with this phone.
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Avoid it.
I dont see how someone can suggest buying a phone that with a few exchanges you might end up with a good one. That makes no sense. My G1 out the box worked, my Mytouch out the box worked, my Nexus One out the box worked, my mytouch 4g out the box worked, hell my HD2 running Android works better than my G2X, and yes, I have tried several.
Dont get me wrong as I must say WHEN my G2X is running right its balls to the walls fast. I think its probably the fastest Android phone available...as long as I dont need GPS or the phone hasnt shut its self off (if I could be so lucky as to have mine reboot) its not bad, not bad at all. Unfortunately I need my GPS, I am a truck driver and rely on my GPS.
I think honestly its an issue with dual cores right now, I would wait for a bit like others have said and pick up something a bit later. Perhaps even wait for ICS since I believe that will be more optimized for dual and quads.
Its your gamble. If you dont mind possibly sending it back, trying out another one with the clear understanding that its a crap shoot at best if its going to work or not go for it. Me personally? I would not buy it again knowing what I know now and what I have been through with this phone.
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I totally agree with this. The people in this thread that are urging the OP to go out and get this phone are not being realistic. Some people don't want to keep swapping phones until they get one that doesn't malfunction. Sure the G2X is a great phone WHEN IT WORKS. The problem is those times when it IS NOT working. For people who are locked into their phone and can't leave this may be tolerable. For people who don't mind having to hack their phone for it to have any semblance of reliability may be tolerable. However, for many people that is unacceptable. I think it's best that the OP at least be made aware of the reality of the situation (the state of the G2X and other phones coming soon) and let him make his decision. My opinion is that it doesn't make sense to jump on board with a phone that may potentially have to swap and swap over and over...a phone that even T-Mobile doesn't really want to offer support for anymore. To me it makes more sense to wait since there are better devices coming out in the near future.
If you're going to leave it stock then you may have issues. If you're planning to mod it and flash alternative roms then you're going to love the phone. The hardware is amazing. LG/T-Mobile's version of the android software is buggy.
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If you're going to leave it stock then you may have issues. If you're planning to mod it and flash alternative roms then you're going to love the phone. The hardware is amazing. LG/T-Mobile's version of the android software is buggy.
G2X CM7
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What he said is correct, stock form doesn't make the hardware justice. I have a vibrant and got my wife the g2x. The first one we got we returned due to random restarts and signal loss. Second one worked ok but returned and cancelled contract because Costco had it for half the price with accessories included. Now my wife hates me tinkering with her phones which I love to do. But after so much complaints from her about not receiving or able to make calls and phone slowing down I convinced her to let me install a custom rom. I installed eagleblood 1.05 and she hasn't complained once anymore and after setting it up and going back to my vibrant which I also run a custom rom and kernel, made my vibe seem to move slow as a turtle. And the screen just looked so much more vibrant as well. It also felt much more "comfortable" , "sturdy" in my hand than my vibrant. Bottom line is if you are lucky enough to get one that doesn't have hardware problems and you are willing to install custom roms on it, then go for it otherwise I would suggest you stick with your vibrant.
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I am not even going to read all the posts but all I will say is this. Forget the G2x and get another device, preferably the Sensation.
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In my opinion, one in 3 or 4 of the original phones are good. I've ended up with one of the good ones after 5 tries.
As Sarni sez', this phone is a beast. Does everything I ask of it. Love the full page internet with Dolphin hd. I sold my Sensation and never looked back.
Now LG.......they just stink period.
But my G2X is awesome, everything works. I'm still on Froyo and rooted, I don't want the update.

Infuse DIED!

Well after reading the latest GTG V2.2.2 thread changes today I decided to give it a go as I have really been having a ton of problems with my phone since new. Mostly battery issues but also weird stuff since loading Infused 2.1.0. I had loaded 2.1.0 twice after going back to completely stock but the weirdness persisted. So I backed up all my stuff tonight and then fired up Odin and loaded all the necessary stock files from GTG's Ultimate Unbrick which i have done many times. It started right up and then it stalled trying to establish a connection and this has never happened before. I waited a while to see if it would just go anyway but after 30 min. it was still sitting there and had not done anything in regards to loading up any new data to the phone. So I closed Odin and hit the power button on the phone and it came back up with an icon for phone to computer connection so i tried Odin again and once again it started up and tried to load files to the phone but again stalled and sat there. So i waited again for a while and then stopped everything and pulled the battery hoping that the phone could be brought back into download mode but unfortunately it is completely dead now. No lights no power up nothing??? So I guess I got my answer to my constant problems and strangeness it was the phone itself that wasn't any good. So now i have to go to the store tomorrow and negotiate a replacement phone I sure hope the fact that I spend a ton of money there with my clients corporate phone account will get me some good will and they will just swap it out for a new one. We will see as i really liked this phone it just needs some fixing.
I am a bit bewildered that AT&T/Samsung would release a phone with so many bugs in it. The completely stock phone was buggier than all hell and was only marginally better once I updated to a custom rom. The bluetooth has never been right from day one stock or custom it would constantly disconnect my headset and the GPS was the crappiest phone GPS I have ever had and I have had a bunch of them in the last few years. Here's hoping that the GB update fixes and resolves all of the bugs in this very nice phone.
Sometimes duds slip through the quality control process...
Entropy512 said:
Sometimes duds slip through the quality control process...
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I guess so E but man this has been the worst phone from a performance standpoint I have owned in a lot of years I sure hope it is just a matter of a lemon. By the way I see you live in Owego NY is that the same as Oswego? If so do you do any fishing up there???
You probably just got a phone from a bad batch, my phone works just fine.
Like Entropy said, duds slip through quality control, can't catch em all.
Yeah you have a crap phone. But since you modified the software (god forbid on something you OWN!!!!) Samsung or AT&T(/Rogers) won't touch it. They probably have something to scan for modified software at the door that will shoot you in the foot if you try to walk in.
I've used unbrick at least 5 times because the 2.0 Infused ROM kept messing up my phone. Worked perfectly every time.
strychninetwitch said:
Yeah you have a crap phone. But since you modified the software (god forbid on something you OWN!!!!) Samsung or AT&T(/Rogers) won't touch it. They probably have something to scan for modified software at the door that will shoot you in the foot if you try to walk in.
I've used unbrick at least 5 times because the 2.0 Infused ROM kept messing up my phone. Worked perfectly every time.
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Actually, from my understanding, they don't really question you if you bring in a phone to be replaced. If nothing else, do like what everyone did when the Galaxy S line came out and tell them that it crashed during an OTA update or when you connected it to Kies. Or tell them that you were having issues with it freezing up a lot recently and when it frozen the last time, you pulled the battery and it wouldn't come back on.
There is no reason for them to everyone know that you had custom software on the phone.
Good luck.
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Have to agree with Entropy would say u just got a dud.
Had no issues getting my phone replaced after installing custom rom on it. Went the extra step and soft bricked it and made sure it wouldnt boot past samsung screen before taking it to store. (My micro USB was borked) Had to wait on replacement phone but they sent me home with my phone and unbricked it and used it till new one arrived and bricked old sent it in and never heard anything about it afterwards.
I've used this method many times and never had an issue. (May not work if you get zero lights, etc, but worth a shot)
Just make sure you're not on Windows XP
Read the OP completely
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216790
May sound silly, but try a new data cable.
sent from my stock Infuse at Tranquility Base.
You might have killed your battery. I assume you need battery power to enter Download mode. If someone more experienced then I can confirm this then take your phone and battery to your local ATT and ask them to test your battery.
Blackberrynomore said:
I guess so E but man this has been the worst phone from a performance standpoint I have owned in a lot of years I sure hope it is just a matter of a lemon. By the way I see you live in Owego NY is that the same as Oswego? If so do you do any fishing up there???
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An s makes a huge difference... Northern border vs. southern border.
I don't fish, I get flooded by the Susquehanna.
Hey, if you are trying to get rid of this, I could use it for the UnBrickable Infuse 4G project. I am looking for a dead board so I can remove the processor and map out the xOM pins. This will let us flash crazy stuff without any sort of reprecussions.
Please consider donating the board to the good of the forums.
AdamOutler said:
Hey, if you are trying to get rid of this, I could use it for the UnBrickable Infuse 4G project. I am looking for a dead board so I can remove the processor and map out the xOM pins. This will let us flash crazy stuff without any sort of reprecussions.
Please consider donating the board to the good of the forums.
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Whoa? Are you serious about that? Because if that's true, it would be really nice of this guy did that..
Sent from my phone. :3
AdamOutler said:
Hey, if you are trying to get rid of this, I could use it for the UnBrickable Infuse 4G project. I am looking for a dead board so I can remove the processor and map out the xOM pins. This will let us flash crazy stuff without any sort of reprecussions.
Please consider donating the board to the good of the forums.
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Would have sent it to you no problem except that i need to return it to AT&T to get a replacement phone. Sorry I couldn't help.
I went to the AT&T company store that I do all of my bsiness with both personal and corporate. I showed my AT&T girl the phone and that it was dead and would not power up. She tried another battery as I also had done and still nothing. So she tells me becase the phone is over 30 days old i have to go to the device support center to get a new one or call in and they will ship me another phone. Well I couldn't wait for them to ship one as i need my phone for work so I had to drive 35 mi. to the device support center to get another phone. Just strikes me as stupid that they cannot just give me a new phone right then and there. When I got mine I was short of my upgrade period but they gave me a conditional upgrade or something and the phone cost $400.00 so I was pretty pissed off that they were just going to give me a refurbed phone considering what i paid for the damn thing. Actually I didn't pay for it myself one of my clients picked up the tab but I still felt like they really stuck it to me not giving me a new phone. I spend thousands of dollars at their store every year with all of my client purchases you would think they would cut me some slack and give me a new phone???
Anyway I got a "new" replacement phone and it seems to be working fine. The GPS worked far better than my original Infuse right out of the box with the Froyo ROM and UCKD5 modem. I also did a speed test with three bars and got 2735 Kbps Down and 319 Kbps up and it said I was on EDGE?
So I just rooted it and i am going to load up the Infused 2.2.0 and manually install the newer modem and the camera fixes. I am going to hold off restoring most of my apps until I use this one for a few days to see how it performs first.
Oh and the girl at the AT&T support center told me she had to replace my battery because it would not power up the new phone. So it looks like I had both a bad phone and the battery also quit the farm at the same time.
I had issues with my first infuse (I'm in FL) and completely blasted it to the point where it would literally not even respond to any button presses soft/hard or otherwise. It was DEAD! COMPLETELY DEAD...I was very sad. Anyway I was within 30 day startup period and they did full replacement no question asked. I told my local att store it froze and I pulled battery and it wouldn't come back on. They acted like morons and gave me a replacement but i feel like they knew what I did. Didn't say anything though.
Needless to say. I take my time now with these custom roms. Rockin Infused 2.2.3 and loving life with my GB and 30fps.
Good luck!
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I loaded 2.2.3 last night and everything about the phone seems better so I am a happy camper for sure.
Infused with Android DNA
Blackberrynomore said:
I loaded 2.2.3 last night and everything about the phone seems better so I am a happy camper for sure.
Infused with Android DNA
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For that price did they not allow you to keep the old phone?
It would help the cause here if they did......

List Of All Thunderbolt Problems Since Launch

We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
Just to add my 2 cents
You have to remember that as with most forums, you usually only see the problems and not the ones with good units and that one or two people talking in a forum thread or maybe a handful of people posting multiple threads can make it seem alot worse then it really is. I have never had an issue with my bolt since getting it on launch. I was first on line at bestbuy and it has worked great since the moment I activated it.
Also the launch was not delayed. Neither HTC or Verizon gave a specific date on release. Everybody was basing the release off rumors and a mistaken bestbuy ad...
when you say 'new phone', are you trying to get Verizon to allow you to exchange your TB for something else?
if so, that's not that hard. you just need to call and complain a few times(bring up battery life & call quality - data speeds couldn't hurt to) and after a few calls & complaining about how you wish you never got this phone they should offer to exchange it for you so long as you got the phone somewhat recently.
if you bought the phone back at launch though then the most they would do(other then offer a warrenty exchange) is allow you to get a different phone at the upgrade price instead of full retail, then you'd still have your TB to sell on craigslist or something.
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We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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I can tell you right now, no amount of *****ing will get you the Galaxy Nexus.
And if you don't actually have any problems with your phone, and are just *****ing because you want something free, you should head to wall street, I hear a lot of that is going on there.
Good luck is all i can say. I went through 3 Droids and 4 droid 2s, and an iPhone (on their suggestion) and STILL had to pay full 2 year contract price for the T Bolt. VZW isn't like att you barely get anything for free EVER
ScoobarSTI said:
Good luck is all i can say. I went through 3 Droids and 4 droid 2s, and an iPhone (on their suggestion) and STILL had to pay full 2 year contract price for the T Bolt. VZW isn't like att you barely get anything for free EVER
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AT&T has to give things out for free just to get people to stay on their inferior network. Verizon knows if you leave, you will more than likely come back at sometime after you get fed up with inferior service lol
xTFGx said:
So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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I think it would be pretty funny if you get no helpful list of "problems"
xTFGx said:
We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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So lemme make sure I understand this. You want a list of other people's problems, so YOU can get a new phone for free?
"I deserve a new phone because forum members are having these problems which makes me unhappy with my thunderbolt"
Yep, sounds like a GREAT idea.
*Sent from my BAMF'ing Blissed-out 'bolt sportin' Taykiin mods*
The thunderbolt was the best choice at the time and I don't see any reason to change it now. Nothing newer is too much better. I think the bionic looks and feels cheaper and that's before you consider the locked bootloader... major con for me... the grass ain't always greener. Just sayin.
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
Charge would be nice, but if I want one bad enough ill buy one. Trying to get one for free is lame.
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xTFGx said:
We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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You need to stop believing all the internet crap you read. I've had a couple of phones that were FAR, FAR worse than the Thunderbolt and I never got free upgrades to replace them. The people that say they did probably took an early upgrade on another line. I ended up going back to old phones with the POS devices. So yeah, if you think I calling them liars or misrepresenting the truth, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing. And I know for a fact none of them can prove it.
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You need to stop believing all the internet crap you read. I've had a couple of phones that were FAR, FAR worse than the Thunderbolt and I never got free upgrades to replace them. The people that say they did probably took an early upgrade on another line. I ended up going back to old phones with the POS devices. So yeah, if you think I calling them liars or misrepresenting the truth, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing. And I know for a fact none of them can prove it.
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The ONLY reason why they gave me a bionic is they tried to charge me twice for not returning a defective device two separate times. Even then I had to fight them for it, first they offered to pay my data for a month. I guess their logic was "sorry we tried to steal $1200 from you, here's $30".
There was no early upgrade or anything, I told the guy to just cancel my contact. I had no intention of canceling, look what else is out there. If you really think you can get a free phone just because of the issues you've had with it good luck.
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JillyBohnson said:
The ONLY reason why they gave me a bionic is they tried to charge me twice for not returning a defective device two separate times. Even then I had to fight them for it, first they offered to pay my data for a month. I guess their logic was "sorry we tried to steal $1200 from you, here's $30".
There was no early upgrade or anything, I told the guy to just cancel my contact. I had no intention of canceling, look what else is out there. If you really think you can get a free phone just because of the issues you've had with it good luck.
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That's certainly above and beyond a few complaints about a device that works otherwise! Wow... That's pretty screwed up.
Problems with the Thunderbolt (STOCK)
Now granted i dont know if verizon has pushed any radio upgrades, i do that myself and the first radio upgrade i got fixed my issue.
1. GPS takes forever to lock. I walk in with a friend tried to get him a discount and showed him how MY thunderbolt wil lock in seconds where the thunderbolt, charge and nearly every other android phone they have took over 5 minutes to lcok (i never locked before we left).
2. Battery life on the stock is disgusting in comparison to clean ROMs. (my opinin you shouldnt have to root the phone to get all the specs to work correctly)
thats really all i can think of.
My main issue with this phone is battery life when on a sense based rom (any sense based rom sucks battery life a really fat guy with a milkshake), but I have an upgrade on my account and am definitely grabbing a nexus when it comes out
God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
loonatik78 said:
God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
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^^this
*Sent from my BAMF'ing Blissed-out 'bolt sportin' Taykiin mods*
Lol its dumb but its life. I dont support it nor am i against it. I had HTC Touch Pro 2 i had for over 2 years. It was a fantastic phone for the era that the Iphone came out. Sure apps were very very few and far between but being able to get ROms that were similar to HTC's 2.1 or3.0 was awesome. The only problem i ever had with the phone was i was plagued with BSOD's constantly after unlocking. But as we all know its based on the phone you get, my brother and sister both had them and were unlocked overclocked and had 0 problems...again i know where the guys coming from we all play the system at one point or another to get what we want. He was just a little more blunt about it than most people would have been. Next time bro just be a little more incognito about the whole idea behind it. Its like Backtrack. Its a tool to "test your wireless security" and you know 80% of the people that use the tool are not testing their secruity with it.
It's threads like this that made me remember why I left in the first place. I had hoped things had changed... guess not...
loonatik78 said:
God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
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This... 1000 times, this.

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