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Anyone knows how to remove this black banner
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
also with the message i type

disable xt9 and word suggestion

I did disabled the word completion, bud where to complete disable te xt9 ?
input methode => touch keyboard => i remove the checkbox there

Weird thing is, it doesn't show up every time you use the keyboard. In one screen it does and in the other screen it doesn't (or I'm blind).
The settings you changed should work I think.. lemme see:
start -> settings -> input -> *select 'Touch keyboard' from list* -> options -> XT9 settings.
In the XT9 settings you can turn off word completion etc.
However, I'm not sure if that also turns it off for the normal keyboard. I would assume it does, but you know what they say about assumptions eh

After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.

Try this. Will Disable xt9

Works great thanks

I have exactly the opposite problem - Word Completion doesn't work at all even though I set ip up several times in the "Input" menu (in "Settings").
Any suggestions??
Thanks.

John_A said:
Try this. Will Disable xt9
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Hi Im new here... been wanting to disable the XT9 input from htc touch. Will the attached above work on htc touch 2nd gen? thanks!

Blackfire said:
After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.
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Does that also disable T9 for the Touch Keyboard and Keypad?

Hi, I tried this CAB file and it works for the DUAL. May be you guys can give it a try. I got it from the HTC website. Good Luck!

Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.

Swidge said:
Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.
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I would like to know this aswell, I become very fond of this on my Orbit 1 (artemis) and liked that it learned words that you used frequently.

Exactly, I had the Orbit 1 and have now upgraded to the Orbit 2. The way it learned words was great, but it didn't interfere with what you were typing. I'd rather it assumed I was correct and let me choose when to go with it's suggestion.

Ah ha! I have managed to rid myself of the XT9 and get the nice old native pocket pc word suggestion back!
I installed PocketCM Keyboard. That's it.
As I was typing on the new keybaord I noticed word suggestions coming up as well as the PocketCM Keyboard suggestions. I then swithced back to the standard keybaord and the classic word suggestion was back! I went into word suggestion options and changed it to my favourite settings and hey presto, it's working as good as the old one was. It also gives me the nice standard list of contacts when typing a name into my SMS 'to' field. Fantastic.
I don't know if it was a fluke or if it would happen every time you install PocketCM Keyboard, try it out. I don't know if you can get the XT9 back though, and the XT9 doesn't work for the touch keyaord and keypad now either rendering them practically useless, so be warned.
I also haven't reset the phone since this discovery so i don't know if it's permanent, but, crossed fingers...
Swidge

Blackfire said:
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
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You can scroll through the available recipients at this time by using the scroll wheel.

How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?

Henry100 said:
How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?
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I don't know of any way to switch off the touch keybaord and keypad, but you can switch to another keyboard easily enough. If it's the black bar with predictive text in it you can switch it off pressing the XT9/ABC button on the touch keyboard, then using the keyboard of your choice. However this does not replace the XT9 predictive tet with the old style word prediction. The only way I found to do that was to install PCM Keyboard. I don't know why that reactivated the old style word prediction but it did.
Also, in addition to my previous post, i have reset my phone a number of times and the old style word predition has stayed. It seems to be a permanent solution, even if i don't know why it works.
I hope that helped.
Swidge

Thanks Swidge. You are awesome!

noooo....
i have the reverse matter
i want to display that black banner....but the version of HTC Keypad+Keyboard I've installed won't do that....
arggggg...
someone can suggest me an htc keypad+keyboard cab with this black banner???
plese i need it

Is the bug from Microsoft or HTC ?

I have the problem that one of the three Danish letters is placed at the beginning of the word it is in. The other two Danish characters work fine. Maybe these Danish characters don't display right everywhere, so all through this text let's pretend it is the 'o' that doesn't work.
A sentence like 'Looking forward to solving the problem.'
becomes: 'ooLking ofrward ot oslving the oprblem.'
Not exactly expedient for meaningful communication, right!
The flow of it, letter by letter, while writing is this:
In Danish "blot" means "blue".
When tapping "bl" the two letters are displayed in the black bar and in the application.
When tapping the "o" the black bar displays "bl" and the application "o".
When tapping the "t" the black bar displays "blt" and the application "oblt". "blt" is hightlighted/selected in the application, the "o" is not.
I tried with English and Danish regional settings: Doesn't make a difference.
I would like to try it without that black bar - but I can't turn it off. I turned off all "writting help" in Settings/Input/Keyboard/Word Completion but it didn't make it go away. I really don't know what the black bar is for, cause it does not complete or suggest any words (not in Danish and not in English). Tapping the "x" on the bar only brings out a "Add My Word" label. Since I don't know what to call this black bar, please see attachment. If anybody can tell me what it is called or what it is for, I'd be glad - hard to surf for issues relating to it when I don't know what it is called :-(
Clearly, there's a bug somewhere. But I can't tell if it is in Microsoft software or in HTC software.
Facts are:
O/S: English Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1623 (build 18129.0.4.5)
ROM: 1.25.405.1 WWE (date 12/11/07)
Radio version: 1.58-21-23
Protocol version: 25.65.30.04H
What I'm trying to figure out is who has the bug?
I reported to Microsoft, who said it was a localization thing. On the HTC homepage it was not possible to select HTC Cruise P3650 in the list, but I reported to HTC anyhow, making clear in the description that it is a Cruise and so far they have only responded by asking customer info of which they had the major part from the entry on the homepage already, seems like they're just stalling me.
I want to pursue the problem to have it solved but I have to pursue it the right place.
Can anybody make out who has the bug?
If it's the keyboard, I guess it's Microsoft, right?
If it's the black bar, is it HTC?

Late breaking news
Ok, so I'm talking to myself ... but who knows - if someone else experience something like or is equally confused about input settings, perhaps this might help them, too.
I have tried to find out more about the "black bar" and come to realize these "late breaking news":
Options/Settings relating to the Keyboard (Keyboard/Word Completion tab) has no effect on anything.
The black bar is related to the Touch Keyboard and appears even if the Touch keyboard is not the selected input method and even if word completion (and all other "typing assistance" functions) is turned off for the Touch Keyboard.
Turning on Word Completion in Options/XT9 Settings for the Touch Keyboard also affects typing with the Keyboard.
Thus, turning on Word Completion for the Touch Keyboard and using the Keyboard as input method, word completion actually works and it is possible to add words - even words containing the two (out of three) Danish characters that work.
So, word completion as such works (allthough it seems that the settings and effects of these settings are kind of mixed up and criss-crossing between the various input methods) but the one Danish character still does not work - it is still placed at the beginning of the word it is in, as described in the first post.

Keyboard bug narrowed down
Entering Options for input sets Touch Keyboard back to XT9 - no matter whether it is the active input method or not and no matter whether any changes is made in the Options tabs.
Settings on the Options/Word Completion tab have no effects - no matter whether HTC Keyboard is set to XT9 or abc.
Setting the Touch Keyboard to abc disables the black word completion bar for both the Touch Keyboard and the Keyboard - also if Word Completion is selected on the Options/Word Completion tab.
With Touch Keyboard set to abc, and thus no word completion, the third Danish letter works without problems on the Keyboard.
With Touch Keyboard set to XT9 typing the third Danish letter does not work on the Keyboard.
Typing with the Keyboard while the Touch Keyboard is set to abc (third letter working) adds words with the third letter to the dictionary. Turning the XT9 on the Touch Keyboard back on and using the Keyboard, 'Word Completion' and 'Next Word Prediction' works also for words containing the third Danish letter saved in the dictionary while Touch Keyboard was set to abc.
In other words, it is not the letter as such, but the typing of the letter with XT9 activated, that is the problem.
However, I would like to stress that it is completely impossible to work-around the bug by entering all words in all occurrences with the third Danish letter in the dictionary - there are too many and it would make cleaning up the dictionary impossible.
I think I have now narrowed down the error as much as I possibly could, hoping it will be easy for HTC to correct it so that the letter works with word completion - not least since two out three Danish letters are already working well.
Facts on the Touch Keyboard: Touch Keyboard for Pocket PC Version 1.0 (Build 29567)
I have mailed the findings to HTC, hoping for a speedy answer and patch.
Am I the only one, who thinks the functionality-mix between the keyboard is confusing?

Is it possible to disable that black bar?

I have found that the keyboard is hard to trouble shoot. That is all I can say.. lol.

Black bar
Yes, it is possible to disable the black bar: Select the Touch Keyboard and tap the XT9 button so it becomes 'abc'.
Now the black bar is gone - also for the standard keyboard.
The XT9/Touch Keyboard has been programmed so it interfers with other keyboards, for instance it is not possible to select 'word completion' for the standard keyboard without having XT9 turned on on the Touch Keyboard.
I'd say HTC made quite a mess of it.

Just curious: have you tried TouchPal keyboard? I had a previous touch device that only had the simple keyboard, so I started using that and I like it so much that I haven't bothered to even try the new HTC keyboards.
I'm not sure if it would solve your problem, but it may be worth a try.
(you'd have to pay for the dutch version, but it sounds like it would be money well spent )
http://www.cootek.com/

No, I haven't tried TouchPal keyboard.
I also had a previous device which came with just the ordinary keyboard (which worked fine, by the way). I installed HTC Touch Phone Pad International on it to also have a more sms-friendly keyboard. This also worked fine. The functionality of the two keyboards were seperate back then.
But my current phone came pre-installed with HTC Touch Keyboard - it does not even appear in Options/Remove Programs (probably also for the best, cause I have this nagging feeling it would spoil more than "itself" if it were uninstalled since it is so mixed up with the functionality of other keyboards).
So, with a total of five preinstalled keyboards, I don't feel like getting any more ;-) and while HTC is looking into the problem I think I'll leave the phone as is until they find a solution at least.
But thanks for the tip!

Word suggestion

I've had my touch pro for a few days now after upgrading from a wm6.1 Tytn II but no matter what i try i can't get word suggestion to come up with anything when using on-screen keyboard. I've gone through all the settings i can think of. Anybody else having this trouble?

Same here. Tried in the regular settings, as well as in Advanced Config, but to no avail...

Ok here is a fix that i found. When you turn on the on screen qwerty keyboard you have to switch off t9 and switch it to abc. This has worked for me for both on screen and hardware keyboard. Hope this helps

Bxsteez said:
Ok here is a fix that i found. When you turn on the on screen qwerty keyboard you have to switch off t9 and switch it to abc. This has worked for me for both on screen and hardware keyboard. Hope this helps
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tried that, still the same.

That's strange.... What on screen keyboard are you using?

Bxsteez said:
That's strange.... What on screen keyboard are you using?
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'keyboard', same as the old stardard keyboard, small keys so i have the numbers at the top.

johnk1973 said:
tried that, still the same.
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same here, still doesn't work...

Standard keyboard does have any word completion dictionaries installed for the Diamond or the touch Pro.
If you want word completion, you need to use the full QWERTY htc keyboard, not the standard WinMo keyboard.

Problem persists...
Turned off T9, switched to "ABC", ans I am using the hardware keyboard. The same problem persists. The black line still appears at the bottom of the screen, when I type something it appears both at the "correct" location plus on the bottom black line. If I make the mistake of using the keyboard arrows - crash boom bang. A lot of words appear near my cursor. And the funny part is that I always have to read my SMS before sending it: this magnificent auto completion method somehow finds a way of adding unwanted words somewhere in the message body. It is *very* annoying.
I don't always use English when I type a message, and, horror: sometimes I even don't use punctuation, because I'm in a hurry.

Did you try to go in the T9 options and untick everything, and go in settings -> Inout -> Word completion and untick everything as well?

Full QWERTY and T9 on for me works!!!

Howto disable touch keypad (noob in need)

Hello everybody,
First off, SUPER FORUM! yes, you guessed it, i'm new.
To be honest, I would never have dreamt of working with a HTC Touch Pro, since i own an iPhone, but recently i was given a free HTC, so here I am.
Why I make this thread, it's the touch keypad that keeps on poppin up, even when I say that primary keys are the full button slide keyboard.
Is there a reg key that I can edit to disable the keyboard, or at least have it kept hidden in the task bar?
thanks in advance!

Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...

there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.

comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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disable "T9" and change it to "ABC", that would disable the annoying auto word replacement feature

NLS said:
there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.
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What about using that NullKB application that everyone has on their Moguls for precisely the same purpose?
~os

I suspect it will be fine (I'll check it out now).
The problem will be if keyboard is detected as open or not.

thx for the replies guys, too bad there's no real solution

comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yay!! thanks!!

If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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I would seem that after this reg edit certain FN key stop working
i.e £ and € and in my case Sys
Steve

Would someone be kind enough to let me know how to restore the inputs and what's your registry settings for this two keys as I've tried restoring it but to no avail.
If you didnt notice, it screws up your Compact and Full Qwerty keyboard input.

I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!

Joe_PDA said:
I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!
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SIMPLE SOLUTION:
Upgrade your ROM with this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444653
It totally solved my problem AND radically improves the GPS.
Sweet!

i have another anoying thing with my TP
in portrait mode in opera if the soft keyboard pops up, it changes from the HTC Full keyboard layout to simple qwerty (small) keyboard layout
verry anoying.

hnparedes said:
If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.
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This is what I did also. Works a treat!

no way to hidde the auto popup keyboard yet? it's so annoying

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yesssssssssssssss! That worked for me too, just got my Touch Pro 2 weeks ago and this issue was driving me crazy!!!!! Thanks!!!

Touch Pro 2 Suggest Words
I have done your registry edit, and it does work for suggested words and the on screen full qwerty keyboard works great for a while, then what happens is I get locked in phone keypad mode when I have full keyboard selected. I can do the smaller keyboard and the Transcriber etc, but when I select Full Qwerty, it keeps me locked in phone key pad. Have you heard of this happening? If I change back the Registry to removed the old suggested words, the problem goes away.

if u have Advanced Configurator or Diamond tweak or something like that (sorry forgot the name), they both have options to stop the touch keypad to automatically popup.

Word Correction / Auto Correct Fix

I posted this in the other Auto Correct thread (found here). That thread got so long that it was requested that I start a new thread with this info so it is easier to find this fix and how to do it.
I have a FUZE and mainly ONLY use the actual physical keyboard and not the onscreen keyboard. The fact you can not set up normal Auto Word Correction words was driving me crazy. So through a lot of people a fix was found. Credit goes to a lot of people who suggested different things (like Bugsykoosh), and then I put a few different programs/tweaks together and it works very well.
Here is how you do it.
1) Disabled T9 completely by installing the cab found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2914474&postcount=8 . After installing the T9 button will no longer work.
2) Change your onscreen keyboard to "keyboard" as the default. You will no longer be able to use the QWERTY keyboard, but that was fine for me since I mainly use the actual keyboard. For this to work you MUST switch your on screen default keyboard to "keyboard" or install the Happy Tapping keyboard.
3) Install DictMgr for Windows Mobile that can be found at http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=DictMgr&platform=ppc . It is FREE. This program is the key to making this work.
4) Only parts of DictMgr works with our version of Windows Mobile. After installing open up the program and launch the Word Corrector part of the program. It looks exactly like the traditional word replacement entry screen you see on your PC. SEE ATTACHED PICTURE.
5) Add the words you want to auto correct and hit save. It requires a soft reboot.
10) After the reset try to type something using the actual keyboard and you will see the word correct work the way it is supposed to.
I am VERY positive right now about this working so far.
Some other Feedback/Notes:
1) I use MyMobiler so when connected to my PC I can view my phone screen on my desktop. This makes entering all the auto correct words I want MUCH easier since I can use my normal keyboard.
2) I entered as MANY as I could at one time because a soft reset is required each time you save the file.
3) I have started entering all the basic ones like
i --> I
monday --> Monday
mon --> Monday
tuesday --> Tuesday
tues ---> Tuesday
(and all the rest of the days)
jan --> January
feb --> February
(and all the rest of the months)
4) on the onscreen keyboard I did go to the Touch Input Setting and check all options. See attached image.
5) I also went to the Options-->Word Completion Tab and checked "Enable Auto Correct. See attached image.
Everyone, this SEEMS to be a real EASY fix for this issue I am happy to report.

There is a solution to still use the Full QWERTY Keyboard. The complete text is located here: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527
After disabling T9 you must toggle the T9-ABC button back on. To do it press the button then hit the ABC123 button and keep going until it stick. If that fails go into landscape mode and try toggling. Once you get it to change it will stay that way. The one downside is it only works for odd numbers so it works on the first, third and fifth letter you enter and on the second letter no autocompletion appears on screen. The autocorrection (ex spell check) still occurs either way that.
Thanks TVDinner -that was fun

sweet! This issue now has 2 solutions. I love when a plan comes together!!!

So with this fix can I still use the physical keyboard/Full QWERTY soft keyboard/Phone Keypad like normal?

NeroDan said:
So with this fix can I still use the physical keyboard/Full QWERTY soft keyboard/Phone Keypad like normal?
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Hi NeroDan;
With bugsykoosh's fix you can still use the on screen Qwerty keyboard.
With my fix you have to choose the onscreen "keyboard" option, or install the happy tapping onscreen keyboard. You can not use the qwerty keyboard with the fix I described.
If you do not use the onscreen keyboard then either fix will work fine.