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Anyone knows how to remove this black banner
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
also with the message i type

disable xt9 and word suggestion

I did disabled the word completion, bud where to complete disable te xt9 ?
input methode => touch keyboard => i remove the checkbox there

Weird thing is, it doesn't show up every time you use the keyboard. In one screen it does and in the other screen it doesn't (or I'm blind).
The settings you changed should work I think.. lemme see:
start -> settings -> input -> *select 'Touch keyboard' from list* -> options -> XT9 settings.
In the XT9 settings you can turn off word completion etc.
However, I'm not sure if that also turns it off for the normal keyboard. I would assume it does, but you know what they say about assumptions eh

After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.

Try this. Will Disable xt9

Works great thanks

I have exactly the opposite problem - Word Completion doesn't work at all even though I set ip up several times in the "Input" menu (in "Settings").
Any suggestions??
Thanks.

John_A said:
Try this. Will Disable xt9
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Hi Im new here... been wanting to disable the XT9 input from htc touch. Will the attached above work on htc touch 2nd gen? thanks!

Blackfire said:
After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.
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Does that also disable T9 for the Touch Keyboard and Keypad?

Hi, I tried this CAB file and it works for the DUAL. May be you guys can give it a try. I got it from the HTC website. Good Luck!

Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.

Swidge said:
Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.
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I would like to know this aswell, I become very fond of this on my Orbit 1 (artemis) and liked that it learned words that you used frequently.

Exactly, I had the Orbit 1 and have now upgraded to the Orbit 2. The way it learned words was great, but it didn't interfere with what you were typing. I'd rather it assumed I was correct and let me choose when to go with it's suggestion.

Ah ha! I have managed to rid myself of the XT9 and get the nice old native pocket pc word suggestion back!
I installed PocketCM Keyboard. That's it.
As I was typing on the new keybaord I noticed word suggestions coming up as well as the PocketCM Keyboard suggestions. I then swithced back to the standard keybaord and the classic word suggestion was back! I went into word suggestion options and changed it to my favourite settings and hey presto, it's working as good as the old one was. It also gives me the nice standard list of contacts when typing a name into my SMS 'to' field. Fantastic.
I don't know if it was a fluke or if it would happen every time you install PocketCM Keyboard, try it out. I don't know if you can get the XT9 back though, and the XT9 doesn't work for the touch keyaord and keypad now either rendering them practically useless, so be warned.
I also haven't reset the phone since this discovery so i don't know if it's permanent, but, crossed fingers...
Swidge

Blackfire said:
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
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You can scroll through the available recipients at this time by using the scroll wheel.

How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?

Henry100 said:
How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?
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I don't know of any way to switch off the touch keybaord and keypad, but you can switch to another keyboard easily enough. If it's the black bar with predictive text in it you can switch it off pressing the XT9/ABC button on the touch keyboard, then using the keyboard of your choice. However this does not replace the XT9 predictive tet with the old style word prediction. The only way I found to do that was to install PCM Keyboard. I don't know why that reactivated the old style word prediction but it did.
Also, in addition to my previous post, i have reset my phone a number of times and the old style word predition has stayed. It seems to be a permanent solution, even if i don't know why it works.
I hope that helped.
Swidge

Thanks Swidge. You are awesome!

noooo....
i have the reverse matter
i want to display that black banner....but the version of HTC Keypad+Keyboard I've installed won't do that....
arggggg...
someone can suggest me an htc keypad+keyboard cab with this black banner???
plese i need it

How do I disable the keyboard???

Hi there,
here's a question relating to the soft-keyboard:
I noticed that with some applications (e.g. PHM reg editor) when I want to punch in a value and hit the corresponding field the keyboard will pop up (which is perfect so far). Now, the keyboard sometimes hides the OK button which I'd have to hit to accept the changes but somehow I can't convince the keyboard to go back where it came from - there's no button to disable or change it (like the "12" button you sometimes see in the bottom).
What can I do to get rid of the keyboard in such situations? Is there maybe a hardware button??
Thanks a lot

There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear, regardless of the selected input method.
The input method icon, is always displayed when there's a possibility for text input.
ps.: RTM

gnick666 said:
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear...
ps.: RTM
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Read the manual and like I said:
There's NO icon displayed at the bottom of the screen!

Then use another program, that's the best workaround that i can come up whith..
Or there's the possibilty of a greater underlying problem that would need a Hard Reset to fix it... so far you're the first whith this problem...

Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard

SabbeRubbish said:
Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
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Exactly, Minimo is another one of those applications that show this problem.

How about changing your default kb to something else?
There is a reg hack to disable the SIP from displaying when you put focus on any text field, but that is not a good solution for a device that doesn't have a physical kb. I use it on my Treo 750 since I don't need the SIP. However, on the TC, it would make much sense.
On a bit of a side note, I have heard that if TC owners want to use another kb besides the standard Xt9 version, you need to apply the following to disable it:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Did your registry tweaks will stop pop up of any keyboard when accessing a text area?
That's what I 'm looking for. Because I installed a full screen keyboard and I use it with a button.
Thxs.

up!!!
Pleaaaaase'!

This app will keep the keyboard from poping up automatically. You can still open it manually. I've not tried it with WM6.
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml

Thanks a lot!
It works!

what full screen keyboard are you using?

I use SPB full keyboard.

Opera shows onscreen keyboard in landscape mode

Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?

I too would like to know the solution for this. I have a feeling that this is kind of a feature from Opera and can't be disabled but it's very annoying for users with hardware keyboard.

I have this issue on my kaiser too

Daniel1515 said:
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!

its a bug with opera...

Brendo said:
its a bug with opera...
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Actually, it's not Opera. It's Raphael itself. HTC should have made it in such a way that if the keyboard is out, the SIP should not be displayed.
To prove that it is not Opera, try creating a new SMS. Do this in portrait mode first. Try hiding the SIP and change field (To or Message). You'll see that the SIP is displayed every time you change field. Now slide out the keyboard. Try changing field and you'll see that the SIP is also displayed.

As far as I understand (from another post somwhere on the forum) it's not technically a bug...
It's a requirement of Windows mobile that the SIP is deployed whenever text is entered into a field. Seems rather daft when you have a hardware keyboard on your phone though...
I've had that registry tweak above work for me, the same tweak is implemented in Advanced Config 3.3 as well. There's another fix that *should* work throughout Windows Mobile, for text fields.
It's called nullkb, and installs an option into the SIP menu that gives you a null keyboard option, and any attempt to bring up the SIP brings up nothing. I installed it, and it appeared to work, but after a reset, it defaulted back to the normal keybaord, so you have to select the null keyboard everytime you reset the device.
I'd love to find a way to simply disable auto deployment of the SIP in ALL circumstances. NullKB forces you to go into the SIP menu and select another keyboard should you want to use symbols, for example. The registry fix only seems to (sometimes) work for opera.
I just want the SIP to stay hidden until I want it, and a single click on the keyboard icon should bring the selected keyboard up.
I have no idea how to go around getting this working, I'm more of an end user than a developer...
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change that to 0 and it disables the SIP entirely. I'm thinking this fix and judicious use of PQzII (once I figure out how the hell to set it up...) to set up hardware keys for lots of symbols (where the hell is "\" on the keyboard? On a WM phone I would've thought a \ key would be mandatory...) might be the way forward, though it's a fair amount of work to get everything set up.

branko.savic said:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
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That doesn't work, at least not on my CDMA Touch Pro.

SquidgyB said:
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
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Doesn't work on my CDMA Touch Pro That regedit makes the keyboard appear on screen all the time, with no way to minimize it.

it is a bug in opera...
it is well documented as one
you can see if you disable autodeploy of keybaord (use advanced config) and youll see it still appears in opera. the only work around is to download nullkb and select it as your input while using opera

I had the problem with nullkb that it wouldn't stay as the default SIP after a soft reset. Loading PQzII and setting a link to PQzII in the startup folder fixed this, as within PQzII you can select which SIP should be displayed in portrait *and* landscape individually.
This still means a couple of clicks to get a keyboard up in landscape for entering symbols, but if in portrait the SIP will display normally.
I still can't get the "\" to work properly through PQzII though... it displays odd characters whenever I enter it into any of the PQzII configuration options. I suspect \ is used extensively in the code or something, and this messes up what's going on inside PQzII.

Remove T9 black bar!!!

Hey fellow XDA-ers.
I hope that in this thread we can unite in finding a solution for the annoying t9 input mehod, without breaking the hardware keyboard.
What's the problem:
I want to get rid of the annoying black t9 input and autocomplete bar, and use the standard WM6.1 version.
What anoys me the most is when you type an address for sending text, you start by typing first name of for instance friends who share a first name, but have different last names, , as soon as you hit space for the lastname, the person with the first name that's on top of the list gets selected..ARG
I also hate the lag it introduces.
So getting rid of the black ezinput part of the keyboard.
This can be done by replacing the eT9 values in your registry at the layout to COMP (et9IME replace by compIME and so on) and this works for soft keyboard.
However, this "fix" breaks some stuff in your hardware keyboard (the SYM key for instance stops working, also you cannot get the euro sign or the pund sign by pressing fn E or fn W)
I of course want the best of both worlds, and especially miss the sym button for getting a "\" whilst typing in shortcuts
So, I have tried so much, but haven't found a solution yet.
Does anybody know how to get this "best of both worlds" option?

Does opening up the on-screen keyboard and hitting the T9 --> ABC switch help?

nope
It doesn't use autocomplete then when typing text, but you still get the black bar at the bottom whilst entering an address, and the space-issue (filling in word after space) is introduced.
I just want the behaviour as when eT9 replaced by comp (ei. you get a couple of suggestion in your screen in light grey boxes, in stead of on bottom bar in black) but with FULL use of my hardware keyboard.
I want to do this without installing all kinds of secondary software that slows my device down, but want to solve it at the root.
Hope I am explaining the problem clearly
But thanks for the reply..
Maybe we can figure it out..

known problem
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.

player911 said:
I've done the t9 compIME registry change and to me, is a must. That black bar was SO annoying and decreased effectiveness.
I have noticed the hardware keyboard does get screwy after doing this.
Using Da_G's roms, he has solved most of the problems in some of his earlier roms. I think the only problem I have currently is a non-working "cent" sign (FN+_). I'll test this again after I flash to his latest Rom.
I think he solves this by implementing SOME of the t9 files. I'll follow up with more accurate results.
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If that's the case, making a cab, or posting the necesary files to replace would be ideal.
Does your SYM key work?
sounds like a very good start

I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb

akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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Tnx for your input Steve.
I allready have that set up, but as you will find, it does not get rid of the black bar during txt msgs to field input, if you know what I mean.
It also gives lag on the hardware keyboard input comapred to the comp ide input method, which I find anoying.
What I really want is just the old wm input and auto complete feature without breaking my keyboard.
but as said before, thanks for the input.
This way we can narrow it down and hopefully make the problem easier to understand.
Ta...

tried editing sym files
Tried editing and replacing the txt files in windows directory,
eT9.Raphael.0409.kmap.txt and eT9DeadKeys.txt and renamint the et9 to comp, no luck.
Anybody any suggestions?

akky66 said:
I had this same annoying error
I managed to get it to go away by
sliding out the keyboard
whilst pressing the green FN button hit the spacebar.
This brings up a small menu, select
ABC and bingo, its sorted.
Steveb
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I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!

Not quite
Smaniac said:
I did that and the black bar is gone! No more annoying auto-capitalizing and duplicated words! Thanks a lot!
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It get's rid of the black bar whilst typing a text, however whilst typing an adress in the to field, you will notice that you still get a black bar and proposed name in the bottom of your screen.
This is actually eT9 still running, and slowing down your input, trust me on this
The "old" way, you'd get the proposed names next to your to field, in a light grey box, and you could scroll through them and use the space bar without getting it to autocomplete.

I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me

indeed
GaZ said:
I normally type the first few letters of the persons name, and then use the left and right arrow keys to gp through the matching contacts. That does the trick for me
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It does the trick and it is how I use it now.
It's just not the solution I am looking for.
I'm a bit wierd in that way, if I see it poping up, I know it's there and it just annoys me...
Don't you just love the way things were before
But thanks for the tip.

No luck here yet
I haven't had any luck yet, anybody else?
This issue is really starting to bug me

Any luck yet with removing the T9 Black bar? I am having this problem as well.

Me too!
i want the old way with the little grey box, it was so much better. It gave a number of people when you typed in a user name for sms and it also gave better autocomplete options.

Solve for all us
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.

yes it worked for me on Touch HD perfectly

Works
Igoran said:
Try attached CAB guys from our famous Russian PDA professional. It's remove this bar completely.
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TY it completely rocks on Touch HD.

Does this just disable T9 on the hardware keyboard? AND, when entering a contact into sms or email you get the grey list like before?
What about T9 for soft keypad/boards? How does it function now?
I stumbled upon your thread while searching for "disable t9 hardware keyboard".
I have the same problem on my Kaiser... Installed ezinput keypad/board and now have that 'damn' black bar. I'm getting used to it like 'GaZ' but dont really like it...
<<<UPDATE: Only selected abc over t9. Black bar still there.>>>>

use different sip
im not sure if this help but wasnt this issue introduced with the diamond sip set? maybe using different sips might get rid of it. or maybe replacing the new eT9 and using the old wm6 t9 instead in wm6.1 roms. just a thought

Kill SIP PopUp???

Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? Like when your using opera mobile, u touch the address bar, the sip keyboard automatically pops up. I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
I know on my tilt there was a way to set it so only when u are in landscape the sip keyboard wont automatically pop up while selecting a text field. The sip keyboard will only automatically pop up in portrait mode while selecting a text field. Anyone know how to set it up this way? Thanks!

deeznuts said:
Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? Like when your using opera mobile, u touch the address bar, the sip keyboard automatically pops up. I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
I know on my tilt there was a way to set it so only when u are in landscape the sip keyboard wont automatically pop up while selecting a text field. The sip keyboard will only automatically pop up in portrait mode while selecting a text field. Anyone know how to set it up this way? Thanks!
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If you have Diamond Tweaks installed, there is a registry setting under the #20 Keyboard (SIP), 20.1 Automatic display (popup). Enabling that setting should keep the SIP keyboard from popping up when you select text fields, but it will not pop up when in portrait mode by default either. I don't remember the registry setting to disable the pop up for landscape mode only.

Dramacydle said:
If you have Diamond Tweaks installed, there is a registry setting under the #20 Keyboard (SIP), 20.1 Automatic display (popup). Enabling that setting should keep the SIP keyboard from popping up when you select text fields, but it will not pop up when in portrait mode by default either. I don't remember the registry setting to disable the pop up for landscape mode only.
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Thanks! This will do for now at least. If somehow knows how to disable sip auto pop up in landscape while keeping it obviously in portrait that would be amazing! Anyone?

deeznuts said:
Thanks! This will do for now at least. If somehow knows how to disable sip auto pop up in landscape while keeping it obviously in portrait that would be amazing! Anyone?
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HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.

At0mAng said:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.
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Thanks, ill try this out too. The diamond config as mentioned above did totally nothing for it, if anything it made it worse. Im sure a reg edit like this will kill it though. I dont use opera mobile too much, just used it as an example. I mainly use opera mini in landscape so it can get annoying when typing in a text box and every time you open it the sip keyboard pops up.

deeznuts said:
Thanks, ill try this out too. The diamond config as mentioned above did totally nothing for it, if anything it made it worse. Im sure a reg edit like this will kill it though. I dont use opera mobile too much, just used it as an example. I mainly use opera mini in landscape so it can get annoying when typing in a text box and every time you open it the sip keyboard pops up.
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Hi:
did you try the reg edit? Did it work?

At0mAng said:
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.
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Didn't find a solution for Opera. Although it is not the issue of the keyboard popping up when i touch a text box that bugs me, its more when a page is loading and the keyboard appears for no reason

I use nullkeyboard. yeah, it completely kills the sip for everything, but one can switch it back and forth similar to choosing type of input (transcriber, keyboard, letter recognizer, nullkeyboard)

euphoria47 said:
Didn't find a solution for Opera. Although it is not the issue of the keyboard popping up when i touch a text box that bugs me, its more when a page is loading and the keyboard appears for no reason
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I think it has to do with flashlite 3.1... As soon as I installed it on my phone, Opera began doing the same thing. As soon I touch a flash object, the keyboard will pop up. Very annoying but I've learned to deal with it.

I am still looking for a fix for Opera.

deeznuts said:
Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
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You can try Mobilnaut SYM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459253
The main purpose of this software is to be able to use the SYM key to add accents on letters, but in addition it will automatically hide the SIP keyboard when you open the hardware keyboard:
It's simple SIP, which means it will be shown as standard input method, but when you click on the icon, no keyboard will be shown. That's useful when you are using hardware keyboard and you are trying to type something, with this SIP no software keyboard will pop up and cover half of the screen. And it's automatically activated only in landscape, in portrait mode you can use your favorite software input method. This program will remember the input method you used before, and when you slide your keyboard back, this method will be set as active.
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question on mobilnaut sym
raphaelcno said:
You can try Mobilnaut SYM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459253
The main purpose of this software is to be able to use the SYM key to add accents on letters, but in addition it will automatically hide the SIP keyboard when you open the hardware keyboard:
It's simple SIP, which means it will be shown as standard input method, but when you click on the icon, no keyboard will be shown. That's useful when you are using hardware keyboard and you are trying to type something, with this SIP no software keyboard will pop up and cover half of the screen. And it's automatically activated only in landscape, in portrait mode you can use your favorite software input method. This program will remember the input method you used before, and when you slide your keyboard back, this method will be set as active.
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I installed this one but since I have a FUZE keyboard, I don't have the SYM key where mobilnaut sym thinks it should be. Instead, my SYM is on FN+Space, and when I hit that, I get a pop up list with all the characters for me to pick.
I have no clue how to do it, but if we could have this app work with a key different to SYM it would work!

Hi all,
everytime I open a game like Tonyhawk Pro skater 2, or if i want to learn italian with rosetta stone software, always I see a bottom bar with the sip keyboard. For Tonyhawk its irritating cause i could see the game bigger, and for rosetta stone, it totally ****s up my layout.
I tried reg. edits. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
Tried nullkeyboard program, even tried advanced config, but the lower bar is always there.
is there a way to open programs in full screen? or is there a way to totally kill my lower menubar for wm.6.5?