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Anyone knows how to remove this black banner
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
also with the message i type

disable xt9 and word suggestion

I did disabled the word completion, bud where to complete disable te xt9 ?
input methode => touch keyboard => i remove the checkbox there

Weird thing is, it doesn't show up every time you use the keyboard. In one screen it does and in the other screen it doesn't (or I'm blind).
The settings you changed should work I think.. lemme see:
start -> settings -> input -> *select 'Touch keyboard' from list* -> options -> XT9 settings.
In the XT9 settings you can turn off word completion etc.
However, I'm not sure if that also turns it off for the normal keyboard. I would assume it does, but you know what they say about assumptions eh

After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.

Try this. Will Disable xt9

Works great thanks

I have exactly the opposite problem - Word Completion doesn't work at all even though I set ip up several times in the "Input" menu (in "Settings").
Any suggestions??
Thanks.

John_A said:
Try this. Will Disable xt9
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Hi Im new here... been wanting to disable the XT9 input from htc touch. Will the attached above work on htc touch 2nd gen? thanks!

Blackfire said:
After this regtweak
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\
and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
The black banner bellow is gone for keyboard input, the input sms recipients its still there and have only one name instead of the hole list with email names.
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Does that also disable T9 for the Touch Keyboard and Keypad?

Hi, I tried this CAB file and it works for the DUAL. May be you guys can give it a try. I got it from the HTC website. Good Luck!

Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.

Swidge said:
Hi, I've also been irritated by the new XT9 on my HTC Touch Cruise. I have managed to stop the XT9 black bar coming up when using the standard jeyboard, but how do I get the original windows word suggestion to come back up? I have become very fast at using the windows word suggestion on my old HTC Artemis and like how it suggests a word but does not replace the one you're typing before you click on the suggestion.
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I would like to know this aswell, I become very fond of this on my Orbit 1 (artemis) and liked that it learned words that you used frequently.

Exactly, I had the Orbit 1 and have now upgraded to the Orbit 2. The way it learned words was great, but it didn't interfere with what you were typing. I'd rather it assumed I was correct and let me choose when to go with it's suggestion.

Ah ha! I have managed to rid myself of the XT9 and get the nice old native pocket pc word suggestion back!
I installed PocketCM Keyboard. That's it.
As I was typing on the new keybaord I noticed word suggestions coming up as well as the PocketCM Keyboard suggestions. I then swithced back to the standard keybaord and the classic word suggestion was back! I went into word suggestion options and changed it to my favourite settings and hey presto, it's working as good as the old one was. It also gives me the nice standard list of contacts when typing a name into my SMS 'to' field. Fantastic.
I don't know if it was a fluke or if it would happen every time you install PocketCM Keyboard, try it out. I don't know if you can get the XT9 back though, and the XT9 doesn't work for the touch keyaord and keypad now either rendering them practically useless, so be warned.
I also haven't reset the phone since this discovery so i don't know if it's permanent, but, crossed fingers...
Swidge

Blackfire said:
When i type a recipientname i only get one name and this black banner
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You can scroll through the available recipients at this time by using the scroll wheel.

How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?

Henry100 said:
How I can completely swich off Touch keyboard and Touch keypad?
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I don't know of any way to switch off the touch keybaord and keypad, but you can switch to another keyboard easily enough. If it's the black bar with predictive text in it you can switch it off pressing the XT9/ABC button on the touch keyboard, then using the keyboard of your choice. However this does not replace the XT9 predictive tet with the old style word prediction. The only way I found to do that was to install PCM Keyboard. I don't know why that reactivated the old style word prediction but it did.
Also, in addition to my previous post, i have reset my phone a number of times and the old style word predition has stayed. It seems to be a permanent solution, even if i don't know why it works.
I hope that helped.
Swidge

Thanks Swidge. You are awesome!

noooo....
i have the reverse matter
i want to display that black banner....but the version of HTC Keypad+Keyboard I've installed won't do that....
arggggg...
someone can suggest me an htc keypad+keyboard cab with this black banner???
plese i need it

How do I disable the keyboard???

Hi there,
here's a question relating to the soft-keyboard:
I noticed that with some applications (e.g. PHM reg editor) when I want to punch in a value and hit the corresponding field the keyboard will pop up (which is perfect so far). Now, the keyboard sometimes hides the OK button which I'd have to hit to accept the changes but somehow I can't convince the keyboard to go back where it came from - there's no button to disable or change it (like the "12" button you sometimes see in the bottom).
What can I do to get rid of the keyboard in such situations? Is there maybe a hardware button??
Thanks a lot

There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear, regardless of the selected input method.
The input method icon, is always displayed when there's a possibility for text input.
ps.: RTM

gnick666 said:
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear...
ps.: RTM
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Read the manual and like I said:
There's NO icon displayed at the bottom of the screen!

Then use another program, that's the best workaround that i can come up whith..
Or there's the possibilty of a greater underlying problem that would need a Hard Reset to fix it... so far you're the first whith this problem...

Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard

SabbeRubbish said:
Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
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Exactly, Minimo is another one of those applications that show this problem.

How about changing your default kb to something else?
There is a reg hack to disable the SIP from displaying when you put focus on any text field, but that is not a good solution for a device that doesn't have a physical kb. I use it on my Treo 750 since I don't need the SIP. However, on the TC, it would make much sense.
On a bit of a side note, I have heard that if TC owners want to use another kb besides the standard Xt9 version, you need to apply the following to disable it:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Did your registry tweaks will stop pop up of any keyboard when accessing a text area?
That's what I 'm looking for. Because I installed a full screen keyboard and I use it with a button.
Thxs.

up!!!
Pleaaaaase'!

This app will keep the keyboard from poping up automatically. You can still open it manually. I've not tried it with WM6.
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml

Thanks a lot!
It works!

what full screen keyboard are you using?

I use SPB full keyboard.

Word suggestion

I've had my touch pro for a few days now after upgrading from a wm6.1 Tytn II but no matter what i try i can't get word suggestion to come up with anything when using on-screen keyboard. I've gone through all the settings i can think of. Anybody else having this trouble?

Same here. Tried in the regular settings, as well as in Advanced Config, but to no avail...

Ok here is a fix that i found. When you turn on the on screen qwerty keyboard you have to switch off t9 and switch it to abc. This has worked for me for both on screen and hardware keyboard. Hope this helps

Bxsteez said:
Ok here is a fix that i found. When you turn on the on screen qwerty keyboard you have to switch off t9 and switch it to abc. This has worked for me for both on screen and hardware keyboard. Hope this helps
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tried that, still the same.

That's strange.... What on screen keyboard are you using?

Bxsteez said:
That's strange.... What on screen keyboard are you using?
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'keyboard', same as the old stardard keyboard, small keys so i have the numbers at the top.

johnk1973 said:
tried that, still the same.
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same here, still doesn't work...

Standard keyboard does have any word completion dictionaries installed for the Diamond or the touch Pro.
If you want word completion, you need to use the full QWERTY htc keyboard, not the standard WinMo keyboard.

Problem persists...
Turned off T9, switched to "ABC", ans I am using the hardware keyboard. The same problem persists. The black line still appears at the bottom of the screen, when I type something it appears both at the "correct" location plus on the bottom black line. If I make the mistake of using the keyboard arrows - crash boom bang. A lot of words appear near my cursor. And the funny part is that I always have to read my SMS before sending it: this magnificent auto completion method somehow finds a way of adding unwanted words somewhere in the message body. It is *very* annoying.
I don't always use English when I type a message, and, horror: sometimes I even don't use punctuation, because I'm in a hurry.

Did you try to go in the T9 options and untick everything, and go in settings -> Inout -> Word completion and untick everything as well?

Full QWERTY and T9 on for me works!!!

Howto disable touch keypad (noob in need)

Hello everybody,
First off, SUPER FORUM! yes, you guessed it, i'm new.
To be honest, I would never have dreamt of working with a HTC Touch Pro, since i own an iPhone, but recently i was given a free HTC, so here I am.
Why I make this thread, it's the touch keypad that keeps on poppin up, even when I say that primary keys are the full button slide keyboard.
Is there a reg key that I can edit to disable the keyboard, or at least have it kept hidden in the task bar?
thanks in advance!

Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...

there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.

comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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disable "T9" and change it to "ABC", that would disable the annoying auto word replacement feature

NLS said:
there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.
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What about using that NullKB application that everyone has on their Moguls for precisely the same purpose?
~os

I suspect it will be fine (I'll check it out now).
The problem will be if keyboard is detected as open or not.

thx for the replies guys, too bad there's no real solution

comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yay!! thanks!!

If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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I would seem that after this reg edit certain FN key stop working
i.e £ and € and in my case Sys
Steve

Would someone be kind enough to let me know how to restore the inputs and what's your registry settings for this two keys as I've tried restoring it but to no avail.
If you didnt notice, it screws up your Compact and Full Qwerty keyboard input.

I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!

Joe_PDA said:
I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!
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SIMPLE SOLUTION:
Upgrade your ROM with this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444653
It totally solved my problem AND radically improves the GPS.
Sweet!

i have another anoying thing with my TP
in portrait mode in opera if the soft keyboard pops up, it changes from the HTC Full keyboard layout to simple qwerty (small) keyboard layout
verry anoying.

hnparedes said:
If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.
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This is what I did also. Works a treat!

no way to hidde the auto popup keyboard yet? it's so annoying

s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yesssssssssssssss! That worked for me too, just got my Touch Pro 2 weeks ago and this issue was driving me crazy!!!!! Thanks!!!

Touch Pro 2 Suggest Words
I have done your registry edit, and it does work for suggested words and the on screen full qwerty keyboard works great for a while, then what happens is I get locked in phone keypad mode when I have full keyboard selected. I can do the smaller keyboard and the Transcriber etc, but when I select Full Qwerty, it keeps me locked in phone key pad. Have you heard of this happening? If I change back the Registry to removed the old suggested words, the problem goes away.

if u have Advanced Configurator or Diamond tweak or something like that (sorry forgot the name), they both have options to stop the touch keypad to automatically popup.

Opera shows onscreen keyboard in landscape mode

Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?

I too would like to know the solution for this. I have a feeling that this is kind of a feature from Opera and can't be disabled but it's very annoying for users with hardware keyboard.

I have this issue on my kaiser too

Daniel1515 said:
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!

its a bug with opera...

Brendo said:
its a bug with opera...
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Actually, it's not Opera. It's Raphael itself. HTC should have made it in such a way that if the keyboard is out, the SIP should not be displayed.
To prove that it is not Opera, try creating a new SMS. Do this in portrait mode first. Try hiding the SIP and change field (To or Message). You'll see that the SIP is displayed every time you change field. Now slide out the keyboard. Try changing field and you'll see that the SIP is also displayed.

As far as I understand (from another post somwhere on the forum) it's not technically a bug...
It's a requirement of Windows mobile that the SIP is deployed whenever text is entered into a field. Seems rather daft when you have a hardware keyboard on your phone though...
I've had that registry tweak above work for me, the same tweak is implemented in Advanced Config 3.3 as well. There's another fix that *should* work throughout Windows Mobile, for text fields.
It's called nullkb, and installs an option into the SIP menu that gives you a null keyboard option, and any attempt to bring up the SIP brings up nothing. I installed it, and it appeared to work, but after a reset, it defaulted back to the normal keybaord, so you have to select the null keyboard everytime you reset the device.
I'd love to find a way to simply disable auto deployment of the SIP in ALL circumstances. NullKB forces you to go into the SIP menu and select another keyboard should you want to use symbols, for example. The registry fix only seems to (sometimes) work for opera.
I just want the SIP to stay hidden until I want it, and a single click on the keyboard icon should bring the selected keyboard up.
I have no idea how to go around getting this working, I'm more of an end user than a developer...
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change that to 0 and it disables the SIP entirely. I'm thinking this fix and judicious use of PQzII (once I figure out how the hell to set it up...) to set up hardware keys for lots of symbols (where the hell is "\" on the keyboard? On a WM phone I would've thought a \ key would be mandatory...) might be the way forward, though it's a fair amount of work to get everything set up.

branko.savic said:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
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That doesn't work, at least not on my CDMA Touch Pro.

SquidgyB said:
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
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Doesn't work on my CDMA Touch Pro That regedit makes the keyboard appear on screen all the time, with no way to minimize it.

it is a bug in opera...
it is well documented as one
you can see if you disable autodeploy of keybaord (use advanced config) and youll see it still appears in opera. the only work around is to download nullkb and select it as your input while using opera

I had the problem with nullkb that it wouldn't stay as the default SIP after a soft reset. Loading PQzII and setting a link to PQzII in the startup folder fixed this, as within PQzII you can select which SIP should be displayed in portrait *and* landscape individually.
This still means a couple of clicks to get a keyboard up in landscape for entering symbols, but if in portrait the SIP will display normally.
I still can't get the "\" to work properly through PQzII though... it displays odd characters whenever I enter it into any of the PQzII configuration options. I suspect \ is used extensively in the code or something, and this messes up what's going on inside PQzII.