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How firm is your slide mechanism?

As per the title.
How firm are your slide mechanism? When holding the device in your right hand (fingertips along left edge of device), does the device give a little as you change your grip/pressure (for example, as if you're manipulating the volume keys?).
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As an aside, those buttons would have been better off on the "base" (keyboard section edge) of the device rather than on the screen section, that way when pressing them they wouldnt have caused this slight give in the slide mechanism!! Jesus, HTC need to employ some of us from here!!

A 100 views and no comments? Someone surely must have something to say about thi...

I would guess that many people are looking forward/waiting for this phone and want to read other people's thoughts but not enough people have one yet! You lucky soul!

SoundWave2003 said:
I would guess that many people are looking forward/waiting for this phone and want to read other people's thoughts but not enough people have one yet! You lucky soul!
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Good point, but a few guys do. Black with his AT&T one, few others etc. Just looking for some opinions. Personally, I think the spring could be a little more resistive.

I got mine today finally from Clove, lucky enough was in the first shipment have been setting it up for the last couple of hours and the keyboard is fine.

Slight Keyboard give
I would agree with you to a point, Syphon Filter.
When looking at the screen, it seems that the palm of my hand is catching the bottom right edge of the keyboard in its closed position and 'twisting' it a little when the volume is adjusted.
However, I've found that the volume buttons are in the right place when using them incall.
(The actual sliding mechanisim feels pretty solid to me.)

There's a little give, not so much a shift but more of a flex, definitely feels good for a sideways slider.

thebiscuitboy said:
I got mine today finally from Clove, lucky enough was in the first shipment have been setting it up for the last couple of hours and the keyboard is fine.
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Are you in the USA hebiscuitboy? If so what did clove charge for shipping to the U.S and how did you workout the exchange when you paid for it?
Thanks..

CalifornIyay said:
Are you in the USA hebiscuitboy? If so what did clove charge for shipping to the U.S and how did you workout the exchange when you paid for it?
Thanks..
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I guess it's 28 pounds delivery with DHL and 20 the old fashion way. At least when ordered from here in Finland. Didn't dare to accept the order yet.

Virtually no give in mine at all, feels solid.

Mine is solid and has been "thoroughly" used and handed around for wow factor for the past few days. It is well built and better, if I remember correctly, than the O2 XDA IIs (Blue Angel) for it's keyboard sturdiness mechanism.

CalifornIyay said:
Are you in the USA hebiscuitboy? If so what did clove charge for shipping to the U.S and how did you workout the exchange when you paid for it?
Thanks..
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Hi I'm based in the UK sorry

Appears firm to me, there's a little scraping noise as the keyboard is opened but not on close. Haven't been able to pin down where it's coming from yet.

mike_m said:
Appears firm to me, there's a little scraping noise as the keyboard is opened but not on close. Haven't been able to pin down where it's coming from yet.
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I there's a little slidey thing that covers the ribbon cable. As you open/close that it moves. That's what is causing the noise your just described.

Fine. Another slight improvement from HTC's latest slider, in my opinion...
Totally agree with the comment about the volume buttons, too. Bit daft putting them somewhere where the act of pressing them means you're also opening up the keyboard...

sub69 said:
Fine. Another slight improvement from HTC's latest slider, in my opinion...
Totally agree with the comment about the volume buttons, too. Bit daft putting them somewhere where the act of pressing them means you're also opening up the keyboard...
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Yeah they should have just moved then onto the bottom half of the slide!
So when you press your volume buttons (just enough to make them "press") does your slide move at all?
Mine does a tiny bit. if the spring was a little stiffer it would be spot on.

What about the power button when trying to remove the back?
I keep turning it back on when I want it to be switched off and remove the battery! Just something I will have to get used to no doubt!

After receiving my Fuze/Rap today, I also noticed a 1/32 inch twist when opening the phone. My only only other HTC slide experience is the 8125 which after 4 years has a more tight opening action.
I have to have faith in the Raph after all the faithful years with my other slide out.

US- Virginia Beach
it sounds like something comes loose when i slide my fuze open. then there is something that rattles around in it. i tried to return it but all the fuzes they had at the store made the same sound. unique?

Mine is a little loose as well - I wondered if anyone else had the same issue. I can (with very little effort) make the screen move about 2-3mm away from the keyboard. It does feel a lot more loose than the 8525 did to me.. I'm not sure how that will play out over the lifetime of the phone, but I can expect it to only get worse (hopefully not!)
Love the phone though in general.

Strength of Slide

Hi all,
I'm just getting to grips with my device (actually the 2nd one as the first was returned due to early possible sound issues).
One thing I've noticed is that the slide is possibly softer/looser on the 2nd one.
On mine, I have to hold it carefully otherwise it opens out slightly when I'm listening/speaking. Hope that makes sense!
Could I ask - when other people hold their phone to there ear/put their hand around the handset does the keyboard move slightly or is the slide firm enough to stop this?

Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock

paulyluca said:
Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock
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Thanks for the reply: I should clarify though (my post is maybe not very clear).
The movement is such that it starts to slide out slightly when I`m holding it upright during calls (imagine if you were holding a HTC Diamond without a keyboard). Under these circumstances the keyboard displaces slightly.
If the slide mechanism was firmer/harder to push this wouldn't happen - just wanted to check if it's normal (don't want to return my 2nd handset in 2 days!

I was never aware of it (which means its not an issue).... but yes, it slides slightly .......i think this is normal.....

Mine is quite loose, but I guess it is fine as long as it doesn´t get worse. But it is really disturbing when you are holding it, and the device is ******* expensive so HTC could have done it better...

Mhhh.. funny. Isn't the keyboard supposed to be springloaded?
Same issue with my ol'faithful hermes then...
Wonder if X1 is springloaded....

Thanks all.
Clearly it's a "design feature" and mine isn't broken....

paulyluca said:
Mine has also a slight movement... but it seems to be ok.
The keyboard needs a little room, so that it dos not break at a eventually shock
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I couldn't have phrased it better, mine felt exactly like this. A slight bit of wiggle room, if you will, so it's not rigid... But I never had any worries of the durability of the slide.

The corner of the button part is coming off

i just noticed the corner near the home button has a tiny bend that starts seperated from the layer beneath it....it looks like an old screen protector got a little bend in the corner but that is the surface of the phone!!! is there anyway to replace it or i cant do anything just waiting for it to come off?
it is ridiculous how an expensive phone like touch pro uses such low quality plastic that can actually get bend and i feel really helpless now =(

Yeah, mine is doing that too. Except it's on the "back" button side. It doesn't really affect anything. I'm just worried that if something gets caught on it, it might peel back further.
Nothing can make this phone suck though! It rules!!!

Yeah, unfortunately the TP/Diamond are suffering from some manufacturing defects, probably because it's a "new" design style for HTC. My TP has a touchscreen defect that conveniently showed up after the two-week return/exchange period.
Protective case, learn to love it.

Do you guys think they would be willing to replace a new case if i pay them?

My device shows the same behavior since this morning. Its about 1mm, so nothing to worry about and it seems to stick pretty well on the rest, thinking about rasping the edge off a bit to make it smoother
Is this getting worse on yours? Last post is 3 weeks ago .......

Any chance someone would post a picture of this? I'm thinking about the Fuze, but I can't stomach another HTC phone full of hardware flaws.
season007 said:
Do you guys think they would be willing to replace a new case if i pay them?
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If it's really a defect, they should replace it without you paying them.

Considering that ATT offers a 1 year manufacture warranty. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to return the phone and get a replacement. It is obviously a problem with the design of the phone.
It wouldn't hurt to try and go to an ATT store and see if you can get a new FUZE!!!

Well, as we all know, HTC always claims that they don't know anything about the problems we address to them.
When I first complained to their support that I am having GPS lag, they told me I was the only one in the whole world suffering that problem, so it must be related to the software I installed.
Luckily they can not deny hardware problem so easily, as long as it is clear that there wher enot caused by misuse.
I don't have this particular problam, yet, but as I am already on my thrid TP (the first two had a defect hardware keyboard and black paint falling off), I would like to get some photo evidence of the users here, who unfortunately have the button part coming off.
That way we can show to HTC that more users have that problem, before we send back our devices, and maybe negotiate a direct replace, instead of rapair procedure, which takes up to 2 weeks.

season007 said:
i just noticed the corner near the home button has a tiny bend that starts seperated from the layer beneath it....it looks like an old screen protector got a little bend in the corner but that is the surface of the phone!!! is there anyway to replace it or i cant do anything just waiting for it to come off?
it is ridiculous how an expensive phone like touch pro uses such low quality plastic that can actually get bend and i feel really helpless now =(
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My AT&T Fuze started doing the same thing after just two months. However, the bent plastic corner of the clear laminate was RAZOR sharp. My wife went to answer the phone and it resulted in a very serious slash to her cheek. This defect resulted in a very serious cut to her face!!
What is even more disappointing is that AT&T said that warranty does not cover this issue and said that the only way I was getting a replacement was if I paid the $125 deductible from the [email protected]*t insurance they scammed me on. I would have thought for $5/mo. I was completely covered.
The AT&T customer care rep was rude and not willing to help. A request to speak to his manager didn't get me far either. Even after I threatened to switch all 30 phones at my company back to Verizon Wireless they didn't seem to care.
At last I called HTC America directly this morning, explained my issue and they turned me over to a product specialist who told me that they know of no such issue. Despite my insistence they refused to replace the phone. Therefore, I WILL cancel all 30 lines my company has with AT&T and go back to Verizon...I hear the Samsung Omnia is not a bad smartphone!!

Creaking MicroSD slot - Do I need to replace my Vodafone UK TP?

Just noticed theres a slight creaking sound every time I touch the area around the microsd card slot, with and without the battery cover on. Is this normal, or do I need to exchange it? I Too be honest, Im having so much fun with the TP Im kind of hoping it is normal so I dont have to go a couple of days without it.
14 day period is coming to an end soon (after which replacing it will probably be more timely), so I would really appreciate quick responses.

looks like its the same here ...
didn't heard that until i read your post and pressed on the side ... btw mine is an o2 (german) version with another back ...

Someone else experiencing the is reassuring. If a couple more users report the same I think my mind will be put to rest on this issue.

OMG people, this is not an "issue". It is normal. Every phone i've ever had with a battery cover creaked. If it bothers you so much, put some paper or tape on the inside and it won't creak as much or just not creak at all.
Doesn't bother me though.

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OMG people, this is not an "issue". It is normal. Every phone i've ever had with a battery cover creaked. If it bothers you so much, put some paper or tape on the inside and it won't creak as much or just not creak at all.
Doesn't bother me though.
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Thing is its the Microsd slot area thats doing the creaking regardless of the battery cover being on or off, which is why I was double checking to see if anybody has a MicroSD area which doesnt creak.

Looks like ill have to live with it. Id be lying if I said I didnt find it irritating though.

My ATT Fuze does not have this prob.

Anybody care to confirm that this "feature" is a GSM exclusive which they all share? On the verge of returning it to Vodafone UK for a replacement, as this is the 14th day, and Im unsure whether theyll do anything about it after today.

Not even one reply? Is there a shelter from the Fuze explosion that all the GSM users are hiding in that I wasn't told about?

No creaking on mine (european version of touch pro) .. just when the battery cover is on (when pressing on sides)

i have 2 Fuzes they both make a slight creeking noise on the sides of the battery cover.

Loose hard buttons?

First post, I have searched but didn't find anything on this in the forum. So I received my Fuze yesterday via mail from AT&T and I have been playing with it and it is a great device. I have noticed that on my Fuze the hard buttons on the bottom seem to move around on the right hand side as if they were loosely connected. I have made a youtube video to show this movement and I am wondering if this is normal for the Fuze/Touch Pro or if mine may be defective. Thanks for any help in advance and I will certainly be using this forum for lots, good community you have here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-0JOiBEiWY

16 views and noone can verify if their Fuze also has loose keys on the bottom? I thought this one would surely get a quick response since it is so simple.
I just want to know if I should not worry about it or if I should consider sending it back before I start to get into flashing ROMs and whatnot. It very well could be that this is just the way it was designed but I have no idea.

Mine also does it. Never payed attention until you pointed it out. Not too worried about it though.

I'm also not too worried about it myself but just wondering if that is something standard with the device or if only some of them do it? Thanks for the response.

This is certainly faulty. My TP keys move a little bit, but not that much. I am sure yours is buggy. But... I think it is not getting worse because the movement is limited by the frame

My TyTNII/TIlt did the same thing and HTC said this was normal. I just hope they don't decide to make a car, the wheels would fall off any they would tell you it was normal.

I did end up sending a message to HTC to see what they had to say. I'll inform if i get a response.

I've had 4 units, all of them did it but one, and that one had a pad piece that was such a tight fit that it rubbed on the bottom of the screen when you pressed the home or back button. They all seem to be slightly different sizes.
When you buy HTC, don't examine too closely or you'll always be disappointed.

kgbeezr1 said:
I've had 4 units, all of them did it but one, and that one had a pad piece that was such a tight fit that it rubbed on the bottom of the screen when you pressed the home or back button. They all seem to be slightly different sizes.
When you buy HTC, don't examine too closely or you'll always be disappointed.
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Same here.. made the worced noise. Really disconcerting, eventually it seems to have filed it's self to the exact fit

Not loose
ECdOc said:
16 views and noone can verify if their Fuze also has loose keys on the bottom? I thought this one would surely get a quick response since it is so simple.
I just want to know if I should not worry about it or if I should consider sending it back before I start to get into flashing ROMs and whatnot. It very well could be that this is just the way it was designed but I have no idea.
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My HTC Fuze (AT&T) does not have loose key on the bottom.

my Fuze is rock solid. It is a perfect fit, sturdy, and held in place.
Looks like your touchpad has a broken screw hole or missing a screw entirely. I definatly wouldn't be satisified with that.

I have checked 2 and both had the loose button panel

HTC responded with:
Thank you for sending your email inquiry about your device.
I understand you have an HTC Fuze with AT&T service and your device may have loose buttons on the right side. I know that this situation can be frustrating when your device buttons do not perform the way you expect. If you suspect the buttons are loose, you should contact AT&T about this issue. They maybe able to exchange or replace the device for you.
Robert, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
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So I went to the AT&T Store to talk to one of them and to check the phone there and that display phone had the loose buttons. I am going to try to check the rest of the stores. I am going to hang onto mine as it really isnt an issue and I still have the warranty if something goes wrong. Still I would like to get this poll filled out as it is now an interesting thing to me.

I bought mine on 1/27 and it is loose on the right side too

I went through three Fuzes for various different problems. The one I have now has an uneven lower button area...the left side facing up is higher than the right which causes a sharp corner. I was just happy it wasnt worse. If you compare the build quality to the sprint's touch pro there is no comparison, the sprint version is solid, every one I've handled has felt well built and had no problems like this.

Mine does exactly the same, had it for a week, but only noticed it yesterday. Probably not quite as bad as the video tho....
My Kaiser also does it but i'm not worried out that as the button pad is 'encapsulated' by the cover and doesn't any where near like the TP. The other thing I'm not too keen on is the hard qwerty keyboard doesn't feel as robust as my kaiser one either.
This is must disconcerting as I look after my phones really well.....

geirgear said:
My HTC Fuze (AT&T) does not have loose key on the bottom.
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+1
Other issues though.

Yep, mine has just started to do this

not as severe as yours

my doesn't