Today when I woke up, the battery was 40%. Not TOO strange (I am not very sure how much I left it last night) but strange.
That is not the problem though. The problem is that 3 minutes later while I was playing some backgammon on the device (don't ask), the power was already 37%.
Since daylight savings today, must have confused a couple of apps in my device (notably Klaxon - will post in its thread for that), while I was playing klaxon I got some delays so what do we do? Soft reset of course.
This is where the strange thing happened... After soft reset, just a few minutes after the 40%... I got... 23%!
Anybody noticed something like that?
I usually don't let my batter go so low (li-ion batteries don't like low numbers), so I don't know if this is a known issue.
This is a common problem, check out the other battery threads. The battery maagement on this device is a little suspect. A soft reset usually results in a different battery level - some people including me sometimes find chargin stops around 87% however a soft reset will give 100%.
Hopefully a new rom update will provide better drivers.......but only if people are telling htc about it.
A full discharge in every 20 charge cycles is recomended as posted in other threads, in order to calibrate the battery indicator.
ok thanks man
That capping at 87% thing happens on my Elfin. When I softreset, it's 100%. Though it doesn't always happen.
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Has anyone worked out why it takes so long to charge. I ran mine flat twice and both times it has taken about 10 hours to charge. To me this is not acceptable. Is it becasue of the charger or the hardware on the phone? Both times the device has been switched off so nothing has been draining whilst charging.
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Has anyone worked out why it takes so long to charge. I ran mine flat twice and both times it has taken about 10 hours to charge. To me this is not acceptable. Is it becasue of the charger or the hardware on the phone? Both times the device has been switched off so nothing has been draining whilst charging.
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Software bug with the charging and battery management. Try doing a soft reset after 4 hours and it will say 100% You may also have noticed that the battery appears to drain sprarodically - ie can stay at a level for some time and then drop by 3 or 4% or more. Again i beleive a software battery management issue.
I agree...shouldn't be taking any longer than an hour (in the car, 40ish minutes in the house). I'd hard reset to see if it would fix the issue. Unfortunately, that is a very big issue to have!
i have the same problem... 6 hours of charging time takes it to only around 89%. can someone confirm that theirs take the normal hour or so? thanks!
try soft reset after an hour, it should work..
the problem is (maybe) with the battery management, where it thinks, it's still charging, but the battery is full charged..
Druby said:
try soft reset after an hour, it should work..
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so u mean it is a software glitch?
i really don't want to have to get up every night and soft reset after an hour or so charging!
well..if you charge during night, it's OK, you can sleep..;-)
but you're right..SW glitch..
I think this need to be reported to HTC, cause power management is a really very important part of the system...
Cheers
thanks Druby...i tried what u suggested.... TP was charging for 6~7 hours but still at 89% batt....soft reset, then charge again... reached 100% in 20 minutes!
am very surprised this problem is not faced by more ppl....!
UR welcome..
I still hope, it'll be fixed in any future ROM..
..btw. did anyone write to HTC 'bout this..??
Druby said:
UR welcome..
I still hope, it'll be fixed in any future ROM..
..btw. did anyone write to HTC 'bout this..??
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Yes.... have u?
laft2k said:
Has anyone worked out why it takes so long to charge. I ran mine flat twice and both times it has taken about 10 hours to charge. To me this is not acceptable. Is it becasue of the charger or the hardware on the phone? Both times the device has been switched off so nothing has been draining whilst charging.
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That's insane, I only checked once when someone asked me how long it took to charge, and 2 1/2 hours after it had died on me, it was fully charged again. From absolute zero, wouldn't even turn back on, to 100% full battery in that amount of time (probably much faster, but I didn't bother to check it until they asked). To have your device take 4x as long, there must be some sort of malfunction, that can't be right. I assume you mean charging from a wall outlet and not sync'd with a computer.
Like i said in a previous post, i believe its a software bug. In 6 weeks of use, this has only happened to me once, and was after a deep discharge. Also many people have noticed an erratic battery level indication - ie it can be stuck on 96% for a while and then jump down to 92%. Also many have noticed that doing a soft reset can give a different battery level. If it was a hardware fault, resetting the device and hence rebooting the software would not result in suddenly getting 100% charge.
Indeed... I have the pitchforks, someone grab the torches, we're forming an angry mob and marching up on HTC with it.
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Like i said in a previous post, i believe its a software bug. In 6 weeks of use, this has only happened to me once, and was after a deep discharge. Also many people have noticed an erratic battery level indication - ie it can be stuck on 96% for a while and then jump down to 92%. Also many have noticed that doing a soft reset can give a different battery level. If it was a hardware fault, resetting the device and hence rebooting the software would not result in suddenly getting 100% charge.
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I have noticed this also, battery indicator works erratic way, and most probably is a driver fault more than a hardware malfunction...
Sometimes level increase 2-4% when softreset, sometimes increases 5-10% if chrging and softreset... but i beleave is a driver problem...
i sent an email to HTC about....
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My first TP set had problem where it could not fully charge. I notice that it gets really hot when using it even for a while. The vendor change another TP for me and the current one charge properly. After using it for 3 weeks, the battery performance also improved.
My Touch Pro need about 4-5 hours to bee fully charged
I use original charger from the box.
I still have this problem but the soft reset trick fixes it. Not good though. I have also sent a message to HTC.
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Can you all post the HKLM\System\CurrenControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\BatteryPoll DWORD value, please...
Thanks...
mine is 500 in DEC or 1F4 in HEX..
In the Raphael Radio thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566), someone said:
Antzor said:
Try soft resetting the device and see if the charge holds.
I was impressed mine was only down to 50% by the end of the day, but then i did a soft reset and afterwards it read as 28%
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I also have this kind of problem on my device, but not it doesn't occur every time on these situations. In further research, I find out only some of the batteries (I have 3 original batteries for the device) can't read accurately. Does anybody else experience this problem?
I also have this problem.
HTC support seem a bit oblivious to it however and gave me no help.
seems that after a few reboots, once the loss of charge seems to settle, ie only going down by say a few percent each boot, then it is stable, and once given a full to 100% charge, which can take more than overnight (if you leave the phone on - which it seems you have to, for this to work) then it holds a charge well.
Yep, same problem here as well. It seems to have started with me over-loading the battery. Afterwards it showed a bit of variation before and after a cold boot. However the differences are not that extreme (+- 5%). Also I noticed that temperature plays quite an important role.
Maybe also the battery % tweak has something to do with it, but I cannot confirm this.
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Maybe also the battery % tweak has something to do with it, but I cannot confirm this.
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I've also noticed this. But I think that the battery reading is never fully accurate and never was on earlier devices either. It's only the detailed percentage reading which is now possible on the VGA screen that makes us noticing it.
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I've also noticed this. But I think that the battery reading is never fully accurate and never was on earlier devices either. It's only the detailed percentage reading which is now possible on the VGA screen that makes us noticing it.
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I always use other utilities to view battery status in percentage for years. On my previous devices, from Magician to Kaiser, percentage was going down all the time, but on Raphael, sometimes the percentage just freeze - It means, the percentage stayed on like 73% for serveral hours but after I soft-reset the device, the percentage reads 49%. So this problem is more than inaccuracy, actually it may be a hardware bug.
I've noticed that after charging my TP for around 2-3 hours the battery will be fully recharged, even though my TP is reporting it only being as low as 50 % charged. If I just unplug it at this point, and start using it normally, the battery reading is highly inaccurate and often freezes for several hours just to take a ~20 % dive later. However, if I do a soft reset after charging (no matter if it's fully charged or not) I feel I can get fairly accurate and consistent battery readings. Also, if I've been charging for ~3 hours, the battery reading may well say it's only 80 % charged, but after a soft reset it's gone up to 100 %.
So, for me, a soft reset after every charging period keeps the battery reading quite accurate.
I've been noticing the same problem with the soft resets from all my ROM flashing. I've also noticed that it pccurs sometimes when texting or using the internet. I'll send like one or two texts and my charge drops 5%. I guess the thing that calculates the battery charge uses some weird algorithm that doesnt work correctly when the phone is essentially idle.
I know there are a few threads on the battery levels being a bit random at times, but mine is really hacking me off.
It will stop at say 75% and just stay there, when I reboot its down to like 50% or less. Twice now its gone dead because I though it had plenty of charge but just wasn't moving.
Is it the phone or battery thats the problem or drivers or something - ps this is on a standard rom, no tweaks etc.
same here.im using romeos rom but it seems to be a problem with another roms to.the battery % stay (for example) 10 hrs 68 % and after reset dropt 5,10,15 % down . is it hardware problem or software ?
And quite same here... The case is a bit worse even. When I charge it from lo-bat warning to full, it sort of overcharges itself and might hang up even! I noticed this in two phases - 1) when I left my TP to charge during night, it was hanged in the morning 2) when charging from lo-batt and restarting at ~85% bat level, after boot up the battery reports something at 98% or something!
I have the same (all posts) some time I have 78% and make reset and now i have 89%. Which is real 78 or 89%!??
when I charge all night I have only 70-92% after 6 hours, and after reset 100%
For me this is unusable as I cant trust it without constantly rebooting which is not good enough.
Lucky for me its a second phone, so I'll flog it and think of something else.
Hi there!
I have the same problem, after charging over night. The battery indicator shows, that a battery is not fully charged. After short removing battery and rebooting it shows 100%. With another HTC battery it is the same. When I use another spare battery (not original HTC), it works correctly. But I dont like the spare battery, because it is hard to remove from device because of its sharp edges. I think, it is a HW problem of battery, or a problem of device.
I just got an old HTC Trinity 3600 from my dad, I installed WM6 on it and I noticed there seems to be something off with the devices battery reading. If I dont touch it from a full day the battery will remain at the same 90%, but as soon as I do something with it the battery drops really really fast, like down to 50% in just a few minutes. But the weirdest thing is, once it gets to 10% it stays there for a very long time.
I tried doing a full charge and empty it as much as I could (turn it back on several times and even load the bootloader and let it die there) but it doesn't seem to have fix it.
Is there anyway I can fix it? Or as a last alternative, is there anyway to remove the battery limitations WM6 has once it reaches 10%? For example, it doesn't let me use Wi-Fi, even though the battery will still last a long time once it reaches 10%.
I bought my phone new when the Galaxy S6 first came out and have not rooted it.
For while now my battery life has been bad but consistent, or I would say acceptable given what is running in the background. With normal usage, including connecting to a bluetooth watch, LTE, and location services on, my phone battery would drop from around 100% starting at 7am to around 70% by noon. On weekends when I'm just at home and have it on Wifi instead and no bluetooth, it takes until around 6pm to drain to 70%. These numbers have been consistent, give or take 5% for over a year.
The problem started recently when I received an OS update. I can't remember if I was already on Android 7.0 before this update and it was just a minor update for something else, or if this updated me to 7.0 from 6.x
The first week after the update the battery was great. With no change in the way I use my phone I was able to go the entire day without recharging. By noon I was still at 85-90% and by around 7pm it showed 60-70%. So I was able to go the entire day without recharging for almost 2 weeks after the update.
The problem started 3 days ago when suddenly the battery is draining like crazy, and it seems like there's something weird with the battery indicator and the way it's charging. Again, nothing has changed in the way I use my phone.
Now, when I use it, the battery will go down by 1% every minute. And even when I don't use it, it will be down to 70% by 8am and 20% by noon. The stranger thing is when I try to charge it.
Before, with normal use, it will take around 1 hour to charge my every night. Also, the indicator showing how much time is remaining is pretty accurate as well. Now, when I charge it, it seems to take a lot longer. The time indicator will sometimes fluctuate. It may show a realistic time like 45mins remaining, then change to 10mins, then back to 45mins. Also, the times seem to be incorrect. For example, before if I'm at 85% it might take another 15-20mins to reach 100%. Now, it will be at 85%, say it will take 40mins, but after 40mins it's still only showing 90%.
I tried restarting my phone normally, and resetting it by pressing the the vol down and power buttons. I also tried other power saving methods like forcing apps to sleep when I'm not using them. But for some reason, the battery is still draining like crazy.
At this point, given what is going on when I charge the battery, I'm wondering if the real problem is the OS update screwed up the way the phone is reading the battery's power and not that the battery is actually being drained. Maybe the battery in fact is still at 70% by noon even though it says 20%.
Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to be as detailed as possible given that this seems to be different from some of the other battery related problems I've read about on the forums.
Any help or insight will be appreciated.
replace the internal battery