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Warning for Newbies

Hi Guys,
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.

charliess said:
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.
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Why to upgrade IPL/SPL ???
charliess said:
You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
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There is no free CID unlock, it's different
And you be able to install original software but not able to install official Operating System from other country , really different.

you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them

paradis_pal said:
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
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ähm sorry...but in any case -then tell me please how to get back the warranty it is not possible or?if you update ipl/spl what happens normally just by updating your os with the files you can download from here-gullums etc. then there is no way back to install the original updates from o2.Sure you can CID unlock for money- who wants that?i want it for free but there is no solution.So i started this thread juust to warn noObs not to update cause there is no way back without paying.got it? also i flashed my phone without ipl/spl i ve never said it doesnt work but i guess doing that wont give back warranty cause they also check ipl and spl and see that the device has been upgraded with some other versions->warranty gone.So instead of telling me what to post and saying that im the "dumb" you should bring solutions or simply not comment this thread-cause nobody could helped me with my problem i got no answers,so now to answer this thread is anything but not useful-sry guys my opinion

please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me

paradis_pal said:
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
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thank you for this thread but i already know it,even it is possible to install the different os versions without CID lock by following steps in this thread you wont be able to use the updates provided on the O2 site and IPL / SPL is still different to the originial ones-i wanted to sell my phone i have 1 year warranty left but i guess it doenst matter-who would buy a prophet with warranty if O2 would say it as none,cause it has being modified and who would buy a prophet if you are not able to install original software without spending money for this or something like that.but thx for your help

online warranty, will check the SPL? is that what you mean?
you may wait for my solution to write SPL using pdocwrite,
IPL can be downgrade without any problem, only spl has the problem, and if you write the SPL using pdocwrite, and install all using nb2nbf it will be again your old phone

SPL has nothing to do with OS, if you just install os.nb and extention.nb, no one can check it online,
I think, you may download your o2 orginial rom, and extract the nb files, make new one without only SPL it will work and maybe the supports guys will not notice, it will be your phone again
untell I write how to write the SPL using pdocwrite, if you restore your old SPL even the HTC support can't notice you istalled other roms

I had 2 modified prophet back to warranty and they don't check the IPL/SPL stuff.... lol do you think they care about that ? And spend a tech to check dead devices for boot loaders ? no way
Maybe HTC do, but then they don't care anymore.
You just have to put your old rom back.... if you had back it up or are able to find a download that suits.
@paradis_pal: if I understood correctly, your solution will downgrade the IPL/SPL but with a higher version number to fake the protection, so it will still appear as modified

no, using pdocwrite will flash 2.20 again
and you misunderstood me, I was writing what charliess was thinking, I think no one will check the SPL as you wrote, if you read my first post in this thread you wouldn't misunderstood me

Kaiser vodafone uk stock rom

can anyone dump a vodafone kaiser uk rom for me?
The problem is that i bricked my phone by not installing hardSPL and trying to flash another rom on it. Now the only thing i get is the bootloader. I can't flash hardSPL on it or any other rom. The only thing that i can flash is a original vodafone uk rom. After that, i would be able to install hard SPL an then any other rom. But i don't have any original vodafone uk rom and i can't find anyone on any forum.
Can someone please help me?

Try this one is a Vodafone ROM but is Windows Mobile 6.1, I hope it helps:
http://uploaded.to/?id=xwcc5r

i've already tried that one. It gives me another error: vendor id error. So i really need the version. Most favorable the 1.56.xx version. But i think that any other original vodafone uk rom will do the trick

exelzor said:
i've already tried that one. It gives me another error: vendor id error. So i really need the version. Most favorable the 1.56.xx version. But i think that any other original vodafone uk rom will do the trick
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Here you are mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
Its the second sticky in this forum. The rom you're looking for is on the second post in the sticky.

I've also tried that one. But it is not a ruu. It is not signed and it also doesn't want to install. So i need a nother one that is a signed ruu.

y dnt u try the WWE one??? i think it could work

there's no need for this anymore..
I just fixed my phone by using mtty
Typing: set 14 0
and then: boot
then flashing hardSPL and then any other rom...now everything is working again

HTC branded Kaiser and Rom Help

I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks

RedChilliDevil said:
I have a HK Chinese language Kaiser and wish to know that if I want to upgrade to WWE or WWE HK version using the official HTC Roms do i need to do any of the hard_spl or CID unlock or can I just upgrade. Basically looking to make it work in english
Thanks
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Start here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading and read. It's all been written down before.
Ta
Dave

thanks for the reply
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!

RedChilliDevil said:
it seems that i should be able to do as a normal upgrade with no need to worry about CID and having to run hard_spl if its the official HTC one. Does that mean that any region rom will work as long as its from their website?
complete noobie as you can tell!!!
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If your flashing a HTC Rom onto a HTC branded device, you shouldn't need to worry about HardSPL or CID.
HardSPL is a new bootloader that allows you to flash ROM's with a different CID (Carrier ID). If you are flashing one from the same carrier it shouldn't be a problem.
You should only need to do this if you are flashing a Cooked ROM by one of the Chef's on this site.
I think all the above is right...
Can someone please confirm my understanding of this is correct?
Ta
Dave

I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).

sub69 said:
I believe you'd get an "Invalid Region" error if you tried to flash a WWE Rom to a Chinese Language device? I could easily be wrong though - I've never tried it...
I'd Hard SPL and CID unlock before flashing any Rom's anyway - Official or otherwise (but that's just me).
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Now you say that, I would always HardSPL before flashing, just in Case.
I've unlocked everything on my device.
Dave

Thanks for the quick response.
Guess I'll do the hard_spl way.
Thanks again

ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID while trying to upgrade to WM6.1!!!

What's wrong? I've tried different update files but they don't work
Please help,
I think I already wrote this on a wrong place!

Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Just to be sure, do you have a Kaiser?
Do you have HardSPL installed?
Follow these steps for ROM upgrading: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Ta
Dave
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Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?

mehrdadr said:
Thanks Dave,
In three color screen it says KSIS130 and then SPL_1.93.000, CPLD-8
In fact It's not a locked phone that belongs to any provider! How come I should Install another SPL?
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Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Had to ask about the Kaiser, had someone with a Treo trying to use Kaiser Hard SPL the other day
You need to Flash one of the hard SPLs before you can flash ROM's from another carrier. The Hard Spls have the CID (carrier ID) check removed which allows this.
Thanks
Dave
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What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?

mehrdadr said:
What I don't understand is that why my phone is locked? I first tried the HTC website update file, the some others from the links of XDA.
Sorry for stupid questions, I'm not really familiar with all these locking and bought my phone supposed to be without any lock! Could this be the agent of HTC desire?
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All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
All phones come CID locked, even the HTC ones, it means you can only flash ROM's made by the same manufacturer as the phone.
Your phone will probably be SIM unlocked meaning you can use any SIM card you like, but to flash a ROM with a different CID isn't possible without Hard SPL.
Ta
Dave
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So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery

mehrdadr said:
So the one I downloaded from their website must work right?
Yes it's SIM unlocked and works with everything.
I'm still looking for a proper time so that I can start operation on my phone! the big surgery
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Should do ...
Ta
Dave

Now confision,
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks

mehrdadr said:
It's just due to the low IQ I know
In fact I read different explanation for SPL and found that after I start with SSPL-KAIS.exe then I'll need to have the hard SPL.
What If I want one of the original ROMs from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Do I need to extract the SPL from one of the original files on the mentioned link? If not Which hard SPL?
And then can I just run one of the WWE shipped .exe files or again the new ROM file must be extracted and being installed?
thanks
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Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.

Garmin said:
Actually, you dont need to do HardSPL or CID unlock for ROM upgrading,.
Those thing are used to make a smoother ROM (remove white screen, freeze, etc),.
When i have my TyTN at the second day, i flash to WM.6, and all works well,.
Make sure that you have download Kaiser ROM,.
make sure you dont have any corrupted download,.
ps: until now, my TyTN never been CID Unlocked,.
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No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye

mehrdadr said:
No I'm even more and worse confused!!! I think Dave says that I need to Unlock the CID. However in some of the articles I think I read that to.
By the way none of the files I downloaded worked on my phone. Really I tried several, either from the HTC website or from XDA but same Invalid Vender ID comes to the PC displaye
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Just flash one of the hard SPL 3.* by Jockyw2001 and all should be OK.
Ta
Dave.

T-Mobile Germany original ROM incl. Radio SPL and so on (badly needed)

Hi Community,
my mda vario III (HTC Kaiser) is an waranty case and i badly need the original rom incl all, this one in the forum is only the OS without radio spl and so on.
best regards
HT

I also needed it, bust just installed the OS and a working Radio.
T-Mobile does not even care what is installed, i guess they don't even startup the device but send it straight back to HTC. I switched about 20 T-Mobile HTC Devices and it worked everytime to just install the OS and a working Radio.

If you know the Radio and OEM SPL version you can probably get them from this site somewhere. They dont have to be extracted from the Dumped Shipped ROM.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
If you know the Radio and OEM SPL version you can probably get them from this site somewhere. They dont have to be extracted from the Dumped Shipped ROM.
Ta
Dave
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thats teh problem i dont know them :-(

Ah, Just have to see if anyone knows the OEM SPL and Radio versions.
Does it have to be WM6 or Wm6.1 Versoin, or are you not bothered. I don't think anyone will care so long as it is a T Mob stock version.
Ta
Dave

WM 6.1 T-Mobile German
You can download the latest German ROM from the T-Mobile website
http://www.t-mobile.de/fremdcontent/1,2790,123254,00.html