After using EDGE (e.g. to send mms or using google maps) the "E" icon on the right of the screen doesn't disappear. Does it mean, that the phone is still sending/receiving data?
There are no programs runnig when I check in my Task Manager.
The only way I found is to turn phone off and on in the ConnManager.
I'm using Dr. Martin's Windows Mobile 6.1 v1.1, XIP 20202 and only additional apps i have installed are Google Maps, and CHomeConfig
also, is there a way to see the actuall state of the net connection i.e. the amount of bytes sent and received?
You could also check your phone credit.
BTW if I'm not wrong the E simply indicates that your are connected throu EDGE like G indicates my network has only GPRS available...but as i have not congifured it i have no data transfer but the G letter is STILL always on.
once you have connected to the EDGE you will still be connected. No data is transferred unless some application is using connection.
There is a trick how to automatically disconnect everytime when application ends. Use your favorite registry editor and navigate to:
HKCU - ControlPanel - Comm - ConnMgr - Settings - Planner and edit value "SuspendResume". Delete ~GPRS! (practically leave the value empty). that's it.
The E on top of the screen only stands for the availability of EDGE. You can check if it is still connected. Go to CommManager Dr. G's CommManager) and there you should see if it is active or not. In WinMo's CommManager you have to push the right soft button and if the first line is grayed out it is also disconnected.
For the amount of bytes sent over the internet, you can use GPRS traffic monitor from efficasoft.
Using this program you can also see if you are still connected or not.
I am not talking about the big E in the middle of the top of the screen, but the small on right (above the signal strength indicator). This onecertainly means "EDGE in use".
@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
@frauhottelmann - i only have the default commManager , and it seems that, the "data Connections" stands for the EDGE and GPRS, turning it off disables the "EDGE in use" icon
@georgetarbuc - i'll try the program you're talking about
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@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
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Once the connection is idle - no data is transfered in/out form device.
Sorry I made a mistake. You a right. You have edited the right value. I do not know why it is not working on your device. I am using it almost two years and no problem with that. Also I am using the latest Gonzo ROM (Rose 1.0a) and it is still working. Maybe - restart your device. This could help.
Not sure. I have never checked that.
sorry, my mistake - i was too impatient
after a few seconds the EDGE indeed turns off
thanks a lot
...still i will try efficasoft traffic monitor
leszekM said:
...still i will try efficasoft traffic monitor
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try it. you will see your consumption and data transfer
one more thing you have to do s change the cache time to your desired value in seconds.if you cant find this go to settings-connection-press right key select advanced then select option there you can c idle disconnect after.set a value and then repeat the registry edit
I have a similar problem with a stock rom (VDA V, latest). I am using the GRPS Monitor and it works very well. However, after disconnecting the GPRS connection (in VDA V ROM is is done with a long press of the HangUp button) it looks ok (the "E" topright is gone and GPRS Monitor does not show an IP assigned), but after "some time" the "E" comes back. Strange is that no data are exchanged and GPRS Monitor is still showing no IP assigned. No programs are active in the BG as well which could activate a connection. I have not yet found the reason for this, but as I am pretty sure that no data are transferred it is not bothering me much (except the optical annoyance).
BTW good (and free) programs to handle GPRS connections are:
- Modaco Nodata
- ToLuSe ConnTweak
leszekM said:
I am not talking about the big E in the middle of the top of the screen, but the small on right (above the signal strength indicator). This onecertainly means "EDGE in use".
@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
@frauhottelmann - i only have the default commManager , and it seems that, the "data Connections" stands for the EDGE and GPRS, turning it off disables the "EDGE in use" icon
@georgetarbuc - i'll try the program you're talking about
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How is this different than changing the value to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off", which is what ConnTweaker does?
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I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
I think all you have to do is delete the connection. Click the start menu then settings then connections and connections again. Then click on manage existing connections. Then take your stylus and hold it down on the connection name, for example for me it is tmobile, until a pop up box comes saying delete and connect. Tap on delete and your gprs settings are gone and you cannot connect.
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
Goto Settings/Connections
Choose Connections, got to Advanced tab.
In "Programsthat automatically connect to internet should connect using:"
choose "My ISP". Or create new one with empty parameters..
Have fun....
deleted connection
Thanks for the easy solution (I like those types). I went ahead and deleted the GPRS connection. Things are behaving just the way I wanted !
jeeb75 said:
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
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stylus???
hmmm...I think SP5m does not have touch screen.
BTW: window mobile and window mobile smartphone are totally different OS.
humptybump said:
I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
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This is not an easy solution to your request, but I just upgraded my QTEK 8300 to the latest Imate SP5M ROM and noticed that under the COMM Manager one can "Stop Data Services" by moving the joy stick to the icon or hitting number "5". It immediately stops the Data Flow (at least the G) disappears in the header. Not sure it is really stopping Data because when I go to WiFi and open IE, the G reappears. Might be due to the way I have my Cingular connections set up. I'll experiement some more and re-post later. I like the new ROM, snappier, the radio is much better in that I get a much better signal where I'm at.
Here's how you disable GPRS/EDGE Auto connect!!
Start > Settings > Connections > Manage my connections > Then just point to the list item and hold down until the menu pop up and select delete. Do it to all the items there such as T-Mobile / AT&T or Winmodem..etc... after you deleted everything and you go back to the connections page you will see "Add a new modem connection" under My ISP. Do not delete anything under "My Work Network"... Hope this help.
You can use Modaco NoData to disable GPRS/EDGE =D
Have a nice day
No GPRS for me Even upgraded Radio ROM and still no dice.... is there a fix for this or am I doomed?
Actually - i can send texts so seems like this is some sort of a WM6 bug... anyone?
VanFanel said:
No GPRS for me Even upgraded Radio ROM and still no dice.... is there a fix for this or am I doomed?
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Mine works. Where are you? Which provider? Which phone? etc etc.
--M
GPRS worked straight away for me after installing this ROM. Did you select the right provider when you setup your phone? You can rerun that (to verify) by going to Start > Programs > Accessories > Operator cfg (The phone will have to do a soft reset after this runs).
if u use T-Mobile change to wap.voicestream.com
My GPRS died as well. I had to flash the rom and the radio multiple times. I am using T-Mobile US. Radio 2.19.
MaciejN said:
My GPRS died as well. I had to flash the rom and the radio multiple times. I am using T-Mobile US. Radio 2.19.
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I have Cingular with an MDA (unlocked); I selected the right provider, checked all my settings... the "G" or "E" icons do not even appear; i just have two arrows and an "x"
Check your settings here for GPRS:
https://www.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56475.html
Check here for MMS:
https://www.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56044.html
T-Mobile US
Radio: 2.25.11
No problems with GPRS here.
trojan9x said:
Check your settings here for GPRS:
https://www.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56475.html
Check here for MMS:
https://www.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56044.html
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They've all been triple checked; the GPRS icon doesnt even appear - period.
VanFanel said:
I have Cingular with an MDA (unlocked); I selected the right provider, checked all my settings... the "G" or "E" icons do not even appear; i just have two arrows and an "x"
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The two arrows and the "X" means your Wi-fi is on, but cant find any wifi or hotspot connection. Go to comm manager and turn of the wifi.
here is a silly question.
Go into your comm manager and see if your Phone icon is on or off. (look to see if it has an X on it). If it is on, turn it off.. wait a minute... then turn it back on and see if that helps. Sounds like your phone is stuck in flight mode.
Mr Rulas said:
The two arrows and the "X" means your Wi-fi is on, but cant find any wifi or hotspot connection. Go to comm manager and turn of the wifi.
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Wifi was off at the time - I made sure it was. I rebooted the phone multiple times with no avail...
did you try what i mentioned?
VanFanel,
Yes, I had the same problem with Faria's AKU3.3 rom. I'm using Tmobile and for some reason, nothing would allow it to reconnect to GPRS after about 1 day of use. Tried soft reseting, pulling the battery, disabling wifi, disabling and re-enabling the phone, making new connections profiles, disabling push, disabling activesync OTA, etc. You name it, I looked into it. I did a hard reset on the phone and it worked again for about a day and then just refused to connect again. Finally, I just installed the MB WM6 rom and everything has worked for the past week or so. The GPRS connection did pop up with an X for about 1/2 a day, but I have a feeling that was actually caused by Tmobile's network being down or unreachable in the area (thunderstorms), because GPRS was connected again in the morning. I never did figure out what exactly was wrong but I feel your frustration.
Doc
trojan9x said:
did you try what i mentioned?
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Yessir did that - nothing.
Doc_lee - excatly but i did not even have connection period. The funny thing I tried the mUn WM6 ROM and that worked just dandy, then I upgraded to Farias - and no dice, then I downloaded to Farias AKU 3.3 and it works just dandy.
Blah - I'll wait for the next revision
Solution!
I know why!
If you use "registry Wizard" you need to reenter your password, which is "tmobile" for your internet gprs connection.
Easy solution for a simple problem
Not sure what you are talking about. I don't see any option for a GPRS password within "Registry Wizard". Can you clarify or provide a screen cap?
tonblom said:
If you use "registry Wizard" you need to reenter your password, which is "tmobile" for your internet gprs connection.
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Hey, I was experiencing the same problem with my orwells rom. I tried something but it's only been tested for one day...so far i have not experienced a drop out in my gprs connection like before (same as urs). create a new gprs connection with the exact same information as your previous one, just name it differently. go to settings-connections-add a new modem connection-put the same info as your current gprs settings - in "enter name for connection" put a different name.then under advanced- select networks select that "connection" as "program that automatically connect to the internet" then reset ur fone and see how it goes...just make sure u name ur connection differently compared to the old one - like creating a whole new different connection, only with the same gprs info
joecruz said:
Hey, I was experiencing the same problem with my orwells rom. I tried something but it's only been tested for one day...so far i have not experienced a drop out in my gprs connection like before (same as urs). create a new gprs connection with the exact same information as your previous one, just name it differently. go to settings-connections-add a new modem connection-put the same info as your current gprs settings - in "enter name for connection" put a different name.then under advanced- select networks select that "connection" as "program that automatically connect to the internet" then reset ur fone and see how it goes...just make sure u name ur connection differently compared to the old one - like creating a whole new different connection, only with the same gprs info
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So let me get it straight - you also had the "two arrows and x" icon instead of the big G/E for the GPRS connection, then you tried a brand new connection and it worked fine?
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
Yep i get that too and no idea why
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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I also see a G (or E) in the middle and at the right hand side. And yes, according the manual the icon in the middle means G (or E) is available and the icon at the right there is an ongoing connection. I'm not sure whether the connection is actually used. I think there is no traffic. But that still leaves the question what initiates a connection on your guys S710.
On my S710 after re-enabling the phone function I only see a G (or E) in the middle, but not at the right. Also after some minutes.
I think thats a bug, when I use the gprs I get the small G instead of the antenna in the upper right corner. When I disable gprs it's still there. Has to reboot to get rid of it.
check email settings
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
nope - both email accounts set to never
iberico said:
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
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Check Live Messenger
Hello,
I noticed the same issue.
I had to perform a factory reset (Clear) to solve it.
I traced this issue to Microsoft Live Messenger, which tries to connect.
Hans
I wonder if there is anyway I can get it to prompt me before using the gprs?
Sometimes, while browsing, my wifi will cut out and start using my gprs. Which is why I would like my phone to ask me whether or not it can use gprs.
My old P900 always asked.
I'm currently looking if I can create a utility to do just that.
bump as I have the same issue...
most of the times I never realise that WIFi is gone and gprs has been activated.
There must be a way to ask us if we want gprs connection before actually activating it.....
Yep, same problem here. Sometimes I even disable "Phone" in Comm Manager and turn on "WLAN" just to be sure I'm surfing via my WiFi router, and not GPRS/EDGE.
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
CY42 said:
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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That's the problem. The GPRS connection is active, but the GRPS in Comm Manager is disabled so you can't turn it off. I've seen some registry key changes that enable you to press the "red end call" key to stop the connection, but it soons resurrects itself and re-appears, and is still not enabled in Comm Manager to disable it.
I've not seen an option in Internet Explorer on the Smartphones to choose Wifi or GPRS, you just get "Internet", "Wap", "Secure WAP", "MMS", "Work". There is no option for Wifi only.
I been looking for a little program for a while now that prompts you when your Wifi connection has lost, and whether you want to continue with GPRS or not. So far, I've not found anything.
I've noticed programs such as Fring monitor such a connection and give you the option, but I would like to see something that is a seperate process and monitors the connection itself, and not just for one program.
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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You can apply this regedit in the way to disconnect gprs/edge connection simply pressing red button:
to resolve this problem:
Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume
and delete ~GPRS! value.
This value was couseing phone to keep active gprs connection by any meanings.
When you delete it, red button will close the connection again
Found this one somewhere one month ago.
Tested: it works.
Same problem here.
I have seen this issue discussed on several different forums. Is it a WM6 bug?
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
hoice said:
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
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It´s sad Windows Mobile/HTC forces you to do these things just to prevent being charged withour your consent.
had to do the same thing, just deleted the whole gprs account ... I actually got billed for 214 "gprs connection" the last month, wich was very expensieve. This is actually a huge bug, hope someone will fix it soon.
Its a money eating bug!
Hi All
dose anyone no of a program or a reg tweek to auto disconect gprs when not used i have one for my Topaz. and saves me loads on my battery.
Thanks in advance
use this maybe it works: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AdvancedConfig
there it says :
"GPRS auto disconnect cache time" tweak
"GPRS auto disconnect" tweak
Hmm.. I've tried the advance config now, but it doesn't appear to work to stop the connection.
I have under GPRS disconnect" the timer and button enabled.
And under Menu->More Settings->Connections is now T-Mobile Enable (not always on and not disabled) and "Disconnect after 5mins".
Soft resetted and everything. But the data connection does not get disabled.
abe
Can anybody help me about a disconnect gprs connection when my touch 2 is in standby mode??
I searched forum and nothing.
In registry i can`t find this option.
This is WM6,5 and his registry is different that registry WM6.1.
I use WMLongLife to disconnect idle connections.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3265587
"To set the data connection to remain permanently on
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\(GPRS connection name)'
(GRPS connection name) is the name of your connection to the outside world
The 'AlwaysOn' DWORD value can be set to '1' to remain on permanently or '0' to turn on and off as required
For example, to set the data connection always on for a T-Mobile MDA Pro
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\T-Mobile Internet\AlwaysOn = 1"
worked for me on the orange branded phone touch 2
Best of luck!
secosan said:
"To set the data connection to remain permanently on
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\(GPRS connection name)'
(GRPS connection name) is the name of your connection to the outside world
The 'AlwaysOn' DWORD value can be set to '1' to remain on permanently or '0' to turn on and off as required
For example, to set the data connection always on for a T-Mobile MDA Pro
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\T-Mobile Internet\AlwaysOn = 1"
worked for me on the orange branded phone touch 2
Best of luck!
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Yes, this option turn always ON your internet connection, but when my touch2 is in standby mode (screen off) this connection is disconnected. When i turned ON phone, internet connection is connecting.
This is not "ALWAYS ON", because in standby is disconnected.
On my touch 2 it worked, even when in ON mode the connection, if not used by any software, is off.
Also, after stopping all Internet applications, if you want to be sure data is stopped, please refer to:
Long press the Red, Shut down button, from the menu select Terminate Data Connection
Hi,
I've got an old htc diamond 2 with Energy Rom.
I changed Action Screen menu and link in registry.
I want know if possible create a botton that allows data connection on/off like there are wifi and bluetooth toggle bottons, to avoid go in the comm manager menu page to select or deselect data connection every time.
The Energy rom use "comm manager.exe".
Unfortunately in italy, "3" (telecommunications corporation) works in umts frequency to data connection and when there's not signal, it goes roaming to other company, change umts in gprs, so i can't stay on line forever otherwise I have a big bill.
Thank
Sorry for my english
carlusmagnus said:
Hi,
I've got an old htc diamond 2 with Energy Rom.
I changed Action Screen menu and link in registry.
I want know if possible create a botton that allows data connection on/off like there are wifi and bluetooth toggle bottons, to avoid go in the comm manager menu page to select or deselect data connection every time.
The Energy rom use "comm manager.exe".
Unfortunately in italy, "3" (telecommunications corporation) works in umts frequency to data connection and when there's not signal, it goes roaming to other company, change umts in gprs, so i can't stay on line forever otherwise I have a big bill.
Thank
Sorry for my english
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it seems you need the application BandSwitch
Now JMLcomm.exe works so I have found what I want
Topaz does not provide a *.lnk file to
Windows\wrlsmgr.exe
Which does what you want!
TOGGLE ON/OFF -=[ WiFi - Bluetooth - Phone ]=-
I'm using it since I bought my phone. Plus I added an icon to it by creating this (ASCII) text file;
Code:
#54"\Windows\wrlsmgr.exe"?Windows\sktools_icons.dll,-276
sktools_icons.dll ???
S-K-Tools delivers their old icon set in a dll.
Download here; http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/sktools_icons.zip
Have fun,
Senax
Senax said:
Windows\wrlsmgr.exe
Which does what you want!
TOGGLE ON/OFF -=[ WiFi - Bluetooth - Phone ]=-
I'm using it since I bought my phone. Plus I added an icon to it by creating this (ASCII) text file;
Code:
#54"\Windows\wrlsmgr.exe"?Windows\sktools_icons.dll,-276
sktools_icons.dll ???
S-K-Tools delivers their old icon set in a dll.
Download here; http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/sktools_icons.zip
Have fun,
Senax
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Good info. Thank you.
Maybe you can try this. It's just to disconnect data but your device connect automatically if you start an application, so it can be enough.