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Only want WiFi. Can I prevent GPRS / EDGE ?

I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?

I think all you have to do is delete the connection. Click the start menu then settings then connections and connections again. Then click on manage existing connections. Then take your stylus and hold it down on the connection name, for example for me it is tmobile, until a pop up box comes saying delete and connect. Tap on delete and your gprs settings are gone and you cannot connect.

If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.

Goto Settings/Connections
Choose Connections, got to Advanced tab.
In "Programsthat automatically connect to internet should connect using:"
choose "My ISP". Or create new one with empty parameters..
Have fun....

deleted connection
Thanks for the easy solution (I like those types). I went ahead and deleted the GPRS connection. Things are behaving just the way I wanted !

jeeb75 said:
If you want to keep your settings, maybe you can just create a new connection with fake settings and have that chosen as your connection when you dont want to use your providers GPRS.
The settings to change would be the number to dial, for me it is internet2.voicestream.com.
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stylus???
hmmm...I think SP5m does not have touch screen.
BTW: window mobile and window mobile smartphone are totally different OS.

humptybump said:
I dont have a data plan for my SP5m so my provider defaults any data access at a high "per KB" rate. Is there a way to prevent all GRPS/EDGE usage ? Ideally, I'd like to just be able to turn GPRS/EDGE "off".
the only thought I've had thus far is to use some "fake" settings so any attempt to use GPRS/EDGE would simply fail to connect.
Is there a solution or is my "fake" idea the way to go ? If I use the "fake" solution, what setting(s) do I need to change ?
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This is not an easy solution to your request, but I just upgraded my QTEK 8300 to the latest Imate SP5M ROM and noticed that under the COMM Manager one can "Stop Data Services" by moving the joy stick to the icon or hitting number "5". It immediately stops the Data Flow (at least the G) disappears in the header. Not sure it is really stopping Data because when I go to WiFi and open IE, the G reappears. Might be due to the way I have my Cingular connections set up. I'll experiement some more and re-post later. I like the new ROM, snappier, the radio is much better in that I get a much better signal where I'm at.

Here's how you disable GPRS/EDGE Auto connect!!
Start > Settings > Connections > Manage my connections > Then just point to the list item and hold down until the menu pop up and select delete. Do it to all the items there such as T-Mobile / AT&T or Winmodem..etc... after you deleted everything and you go back to the connections page you will see "Add a new modem connection" under My ISP. Do not delete anything under "My Work Network"... Hope this help.

You can use Modaco NoData to disable GPRS/EDGE =D
Have a nice day

unwanted gprs connection

i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?

Yep i get that too and no idea why
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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I also see a G (or E) in the middle and at the right hand side. And yes, according the manual the icon in the middle means G (or E) is available and the icon at the right there is an ongoing connection. I'm not sure whether the connection is actually used. I think there is no traffic. But that still leaves the question what initiates a connection on your guys S710.
On my S710 after re-enabling the phone function I only see a G (or E) in the middle, but not at the right. Also after some minutes.

I think thats a bug, when I use the gprs I get the small G instead of the antenna in the upper right corner. When I disable gprs it's still there. Has to reboot to get rid of it.

check email settings
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.

nope - both email accounts set to never
iberico said:
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
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Check Live Messenger
Hello,
I noticed the same issue.
I had to perform a factory reset (Clear) to solve it.
I traced this issue to Microsoft Live Messenger, which tries to connect.
Hans

I wonder if there is anyway I can get it to prompt me before using the gprs?
Sometimes, while browsing, my wifi will cut out and start using my gprs. Which is why I would like my phone to ask me whether or not it can use gprs.

My old P900 always asked.
I'm currently looking if I can create a utility to do just that.

bump as I have the same issue...
most of the times I never realise that WIFi is gone and gprs has been activated.
There must be a way to ask us if we want gprs connection before actually activating it.....

Yep, same problem here. Sometimes I even disable "Phone" in Comm Manager and turn on "WLAN" just to be sure I'm surfing via my WiFi router, and not GPRS/EDGE.

You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)

CY42 said:
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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That's the problem. The GPRS connection is active, but the GRPS in Comm Manager is disabled so you can't turn it off. I've seen some registry key changes that enable you to press the "red end call" key to stop the connection, but it soons resurrects itself and re-appears, and is still not enabled in Comm Manager to disable it.
I've not seen an option in Internet Explorer on the Smartphones to choose Wifi or GPRS, you just get "Internet", "Wap", "Secure WAP", "MMS", "Work". There is no option for Wifi only.
I been looking for a little program for a while now that prompts you when your Wifi connection has lost, and whether you want to continue with GPRS or not. So far, I've not found anything.
I've noticed programs such as Fring monitor such a connection and give you the option, but I would like to see something that is a seperate process and monitors the connection itself, and not just for one program.

duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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You can apply this regedit in the way to disconnect gprs/edge connection simply pressing red button:
to resolve this problem:
Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume
and delete ~GPRS! value.
This value was couseing phone to keep active gprs connection by any meanings.
When you delete it, red button will close the connection again
Found this one somewhere one month ago.
Tested: it works.

Same problem here.
I have seen this issue discussed on several different forums. Is it a WM6 bug?

i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS

hoice said:
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
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It´s sad Windows Mobile/HTC forces you to do these things just to prevent being charged withour your consent.

had to do the same thing, just deleted the whole gprs account ... I actually got billed for 214 "gprs connection" the last month, wich was very expensieve. This is actually a huge bug, hope someone will fix it soon.
Its a money eating bug!

Can I turn off GPRS only?

I noticed that if wifi is not available, Polaris connects to GPRS automatically. I want to use only wifi for internet connection, and would like to turn off GPRS leaving wifi working, because GPRS is very costly. Can anyone help?

try this app.

This application can turn off GPRS only if it is already active, I want GPRS/3G to be turned off permanently.

i'm not getting what you mean. U have installed GPRS/EDGE.... settings. If U run this app u see all your connections as ENABLED. U need to select each one and after press TOGGLE button (ENABLED changes to DISABLED). So afterwards device is not able 2 connect thru GPRS/Edge... If u need it from time to time just start app and pres toggle again to enable

settings->connection->connections->advanced->select network
pick the item in the dropdownbox for auto connect network which is not my isp

Easy. After you set up your wifi connection, go to your Comm Manager and switch off Data Connection. Wifi has to be on. If you switch it off, Data Con will come back on.
Basically have your wifi permanently on and all your apps would use that instead of 3G/GPRS.
Edit: Sorry missed the auto connect when 'no network available' point. What Rudegar said is sound.

Is there any known consequences of wifi permanently on?

Rudegar said:
settings->connection->connections->advanced->select network
pick the item in the dropdownbox for auto connect network which is not my isp
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thanks for your solution

Top Mario said:
Is there any known consequences of wifi permanently on?
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You mean other than the wifi draining your battery, and as you go around the city always bugging you whith "new network found" dialogs, and having to connect to an unprotected AP every time you want something from the net?
No, not realy

EDGE not disconnetcting

After using EDGE (e.g. to send mms or using google maps) the "E" icon on the right of the screen doesn't disappear. Does it mean, that the phone is still sending/receiving data?
There are no programs runnig when I check in my Task Manager.
The only way I found is to turn phone off and on in the ConnManager.
I'm using Dr. Martin's Windows Mobile 6.1 v1.1, XIP 20202 and only additional apps i have installed are Google Maps, and CHomeConfig
also, is there a way to see the actuall state of the net connection i.e. the amount of bytes sent and received?

You could also check your phone credit.
BTW if I'm not wrong the E simply indicates that your are connected throu EDGE like G indicates my network has only GPRS available...but as i have not congifured it i have no data transfer but the G letter is STILL always on.

once you have connected to the EDGE you will still be connected. No data is transferred unless some application is using connection.
There is a trick how to automatically disconnect everytime when application ends. Use your favorite registry editor and navigate to:
HKCU - ControlPanel - Comm - ConnMgr - Settings - Planner and edit value "SuspendResume". Delete ~GPRS! (practically leave the value empty). that's it.

The E on top of the screen only stands for the availability of EDGE. You can check if it is still connected. Go to CommManager Dr. G's CommManager) and there you should see if it is active or not. In WinMo's CommManager you have to push the right soft button and if the first line is grayed out it is also disconnected.

For the amount of bytes sent over the internet, you can use GPRS traffic monitor from efficasoft.
Using this program you can also see if you are still connected or not.

I am not talking about the big E in the middle of the top of the screen, but the small on right (above the signal strength indicator). This onecertainly means "EDGE in use".
@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
@frauhottelmann - i only have the default commManager , and it seems that, the "data Connections" stands for the EDGE and GPRS, turning it off disables the "EDGE in use" icon
@georgetarbuc - i'll try the program you're talking about

leszekM said:
@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
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Once the connection is idle - no data is transfered in/out form device.
Sorry I made a mistake. You a right. You have edited the right value. I do not know why it is not working on your device. I am using it almost two years and no problem with that. Also I am using the latest Gonzo ROM (Rose 1.0a) and it is still working. Maybe - restart your device. This could help.
Not sure. I have never checked that.

sorry, my mistake - i was too impatient
after a few seconds the EDGE indeed turns off
thanks a lot
...still i will try efficasoft traffic monitor

leszekM said:
...still i will try efficasoft traffic monitor
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try it. you will see your consumption and data transfer

one more thing you have to do s change the cache time to your desired value in seconds.if you cant find this go to settings-connection-press right key select advanced then select option there you can c idle disconnect after.set a value and then repeat the registry edit

I have a similar problem with a stock rom (VDA V, latest). I am using the GRPS Monitor and it works very well. However, after disconnecting the GPRS connection (in VDA V ROM is is done with a long press of the HangUp button) it looks ok (the "E" topright is gone and GPRS Monitor does not show an IP assigned), but after "some time" the "E" comes back. Strange is that no data are exchanged and GPRS Monitor is still showing no IP assigned. No programs are active in the BG as well which could activate a connection. I have not yet found the reason for this, but as I am pretty sure that no data are transferred it is not bothering me much (except the optical annoyance).
BTW good (and free) programs to handle GPRS connections are:
- Modaco Nodata
- ToLuSe ConnTweak

leszekM said:
I am not talking about the big E in the middle of the top of the screen, but the small on right (above the signal strength indicator). This onecertainly means "EDGE in use".
@trizzo - so once the EDGE is connected it stays idle, and doesn't send or recive anything?
There's no such registry location you're talking about. The only one with "SuspendResume" value is HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Planner - Settings, but changing it doesn't seem to have any effect.
Does EDGE use more battery power while it's connected and idle?
@frauhottelmann - i only have the default commManager , and it seems that, the "data Connections" stands for the EDGE and GPRS, turning it off disables the "EDGE in use" icon
@georgetarbuc - i'll try the program you're talking about
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How is this different than changing the value to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off", which is what ConnTweaker does?

How to disable GPRS warning?

I have the Fuze version on at&t network. I've disabled 3G on AT&T's side so there is no way to connect through there.
Nevertheless, my phone ALWAYS tries to connect to the 3G network and i've disabled 3G connections using Nodata.cab, advancedconfig, diamondtweaks.
Still, the warning signs always come up:
"there is a problem connecting to the gprs service in your registered home network warning"
and this occurs, when I turn on the phone and many other times.
Is there a way to disable this warning? I know I cant connect, its because i disabled it!!!!

anyone? it comes up like 50x a day andi have to click OK to make it go away every single time

Have you unchecked the auto update setting for the weather program? Doing this worked for me.

did that, but didnt fix the problem. anything else that can be auto updating or trying to contact the 3G network?

Go to start -- settings -- connections -- connections --advanced -- select network.
Here I think you can change the defaults so that when ever a program tries to use internet it will either use wifi (if available) or nothing....
I have blocked the wireless internet access on all my lines and this is how I solved the problem of getting gprs disconnect warnings.
Hope this helps.

Is it possible to just disable this warning?
I'm switching between my personal and business SIM cards quite often, and I have the data connection disabled on the business card, while on personal I have a data plan, so I want to be always-online.

I disabled aGPS and now i dont get the warning as much. (remember, i disabled GPRS from att side).
when i start my phone, i get 1 warning (i used to get 3?)
maybe i'm on the right track...

But the point is not to disable features so they don't auto-connect to the Internet.
The point is for the OS to try to onnect automatically, but when it failes - it doesn't have to scream that to your face every 5 minutes.

I'm bumping this thread cause I did the same thing and want to know how to disable the message as well.

still no answer to this

Translating from Dutch, so bear with me:
Go to Personal > phone > network settings and put the band on GSM.
Note that you won't be able to use the 3G + H data connections then.

my father has the same problem on his Diamond, need help!

bump, i have the same problem as well
any solutions?

i have a solution.
download > install > and run NOGPRS.cab aka No Data. that will shut it up. i just had the same problem and i did that and now i havnt gotten any... i think i might get like one if i turn the phone on and off and what not, but other then that its fine.

Solution to GPRS warning message
Go to settings > Connections > Connections > advanced > select networks >
now check both options to 'my work network'
click ok
and reboot
the irritating message will go away.
until you again reinstall the sim into your phone and it will automatically reconfigure the settings.
Just repeat the above process.

solution
1. Tap Start.
2. Tap Settings.
3. Tap Phone.
4. Tap the Network Tab.
5. Tap the Network Selection Drop down.
6. Tap Manual.
7. Tap the desired network.
8. Tap Ok.