Bluetooth hands free with Diamond GPS - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories

Okay, I have searched and cannot find anything on this exact topic, so hear I go. Has anyone used a bluetooth handsfree car kit with the Diamond while using the internal GPS? I realize that you should be able to but with all of the issues people are having with the GPS and having to uncheck "receive all incoming beams" and all I thought it a good idea to check. I tried to use a bluetooth hands free with my bluetooth GPS on my Touch and realized that when a call comes in it looses satelite signal. I am hoping that I can use a bluetooth hands free with the Diamond (waiting for Rogers in Canada to get it) because I hear the built in speaker sucks.
Thanks in advance, Wayne>

Wow, 68 views and not one person has used a bluetooth hands free car kit with the GPS

Hi I have used GPS and bluetooth hands free at the same time no problems. Only issue I have had is when using Duttys rom with the experimental bluetooth drivers, and using gps, and on a phone call both me and the person on the other end of the call have heard the directions. I have moved to another ROM and don't have any problems.

I have connected the Diamond to my bluetooth radio and it works in hands-free mode without problems.
Navigating with TomTom and receiving or making calls at the same time is absolutely no problem.
EDIT: I use the official O2 1.93 German rom

Can you please confirm something for me - when i use TOMTOM with my bluetooth car unit there is a lag off a few seconds. E.g. instead of hearing you have reached your destination, it cuts off the first bit and all i can hear is destination. There is also a delay in the ringer. Is this ROM related? If i switch ROMs will it resolve this for me?

I have connected my phone via bluetooth to my car radio, but TomTom uses the phone's internal speaker, as my radio does not support A2DP, but only hands-free. Through the internal speaker the directions are without any lag.
Incoming calls are signalled on my radio after a short lag (1 second or so). I guess that is normal behaviour though.

what a bummer that is - it renders tomtom useless via a bluetooth device. my unit is a JVC AVX-33 which supports A2DP. So basically when tomtom says turn left in 100 yards etc, because of the lag i dont get to hear it. I have more like a 4 second lag

Is that also the case when you're streaming music over bluetooth to the radio while using TomTom?
Because I was also thinking about getting an A2DP capable radio for my car for this scenario. But if there is such a lag, TomTom would be completely useless over BT.

I have no problems with music at all. No lag what so ever. Looking back now, it just appears to be system sounds, which includes tomtom. When I change ringtone and click play, there is also a lag at that point

That's strange.
You could try Advanced Config and change some of the BT settings to see if that helps, though I don't see why system sounds lag and music does not.
Maybe someone else can shed some light on this problem?

I'd be grateful!
I have tried this solution without any luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262119

Have you perhaps tried connecting your Diamond to another radio or other device that supports the A2DP profile?
Perhaps a PC or notebook with bluetooth?
You could then verify that it is indeed a problem with the phone itself and not with the radio.

I have the Supertooth Hands Free Kit, and it works pretty fine. I pair it, then start a connection, click two time on the Supertooth Button, and I even get the sounds of all Apps over the Hands free kit (GPS too).
For me it works fine.

I had no trouble with my Parrot kit and the Diamond running TomTom both with the Vodafone rom and 3rd party one from here. I have the trimmed voice commands using my Touch Dual but no such issue on the diamond. Navigation prompts come from the phones internal speaker and not my car kit.

That's interesting Blackfear gets GPS prompts through hands freee but wseed does not. The only reason I am considering getting a hands free unit is because I have heard the Diamond has a bad speaker. I was hoping to get all sound through the bluetooth speaker phone.
Dhatw.

dhatw said:
I tried to use a bluetooth hands free with my bluetooth GPS on my Touch and realized that when a call comes in it looses satelite signal.
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Exact my problem with the diamond. I get a call and no satllite reception on the internal GPS.

marco899 said:
Exact my problem with the diamond. I get a call and no satllite reception on the internal GPS.
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Really, that is not what I wanted to hear. Are you using a bluethooth hands free, and if so which one? How can it affect the internal GPS? My problem was because I was asking the phone to communicate with the bluetooth GPS, and the bluetooth hands free while announcing turns and phone conversation. I was hoping the internal GPS of the Diamond would not be affected at all by a bluetooth hands free.

dhatw said:
Really, that is not what I wanted to hear. Are you using a bluethooth hands free, and if so which one? How can it affect the internal GPS? My problem was because I was asking the phone to communicate with the bluetooth GPS, and the bluetooth hands free while announcing turns and phone conversation. I was hoping the internal GPS of the Diamond would not be affected at all by a bluetooth hands free.
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I'am using a bluetouch handsfree set and as navigation tomtom 7. When a phonecall comes in, i have no satelites till i drop the call. Maybe this is a problem with my not standard skippy rom, but i don't know if this happens with the standard rom.

dhatw said:
Really, that is not what I wanted to hear. Are you using a bluethooth hands free, and if so which one? How can it affect the internal GPS? My problem was because I was asking the phone to communicate with the bluetooth GPS, and the bluetooth hands free while announcing turns and phone conversation. I was hoping the internal GPS of the Diamond would not be affected at all by a bluetooth hands free.
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I just tested this, because i was curious - i never noticed this.
And i can confirm, answering a call with a BT handsfree while navigating. It doesn't affect the GPS. I can even stream music via A2DP to my car stereo at the same time, i hear the music and navigation instructions loud and clear without lag trough my car speakers.
So this problem might be ROM-related, not hardware... I hope this is good news
The ROM i use is the official one from HTC website : "_HTC Touch Diamond_QMR_RUU_Diamond_HTC_NLD_1.93.404.1_Radio_S igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe"
The BT headset i use is a Jabra BT350
I stream A2DP to a small BT audio receiver, Sony MBR-100
I hope this helps!
edit :
I read somewhere in this topic about a lag trough the A2DP connection.
I actually can tell how much lag there is : 400 msec. Totally acceptable for Tom Tom i think..
I know this, because sometimes i use TCPMP for watching video's in the car, e.g. at McDonalds and i have to set the audio delay in TCPMP to -400 msec to get it lipsync

Thanks, Aldo it's not a big problem for me with my build in navigation system, it's nice to know that it's rom related.

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I have bought a Plantronics M3000 bluetooth headset for my QTEK 2020. I have no problems pairing, calling and answering. However the headset just shuts off after a few minutes of conversation. It doesn't just cut the conversation but shuts off. I can make multiple short calls but nothing longer than 3/4 minutes. It works, however, without problems on my wife's Ericsson T68. Anyone can help ? Thanks.
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I have the MDA2 (same as QTek2020) and a Plantronics M3000 and It's been working just fine.
The problem you describe it's very weird since you mentioned that the headset works fine with your wife's mobile, and that makes me think that your QTek has some sort of problem with the Bluetooth stack or hardware.
It may be well worth to try (if possible) another headset just to make sure that is not the M3000 fault.
Do you see any type of error or message on the screen at the time of disconnection?
Does it always cut the conversation at the exact same moment?
Does the problem match the time the QTek takes to power save?
Any other clues?
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However, your suggestion that it might happen when the Qtek goes in energy saving mode is interesting. I will check that tomorrow.
I'll post the result.
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I seem to have a similar poblem after installing pocket bluetooth tools!.
I use a Jabra BT 250..and I noticed that the headset just mutes during the call..
I am generally used to switching off the display of the XDA after placing the call to power save ...
So I discovered that the headset would mute whenever i switch off the xda after making the call (which it never did prior to installing PBT)!
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maybe it has to do with the auto switch off plugin?
Actually I just experienced that too...
If I place (or answer a call) the next time I try to use the phone via the BT headset I notice the BT headset was turned off... Yeah, it could be related to the Powersave feature on the today plugin that PBT installs as a plugin... :roll:
Need to investigate...
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Both my bt headsets have stopped working since installing pocket bluetooth tools latest version, I have reverted back to version 1005 and everything is fine. I have a sony-ericsson EBH-65 and a skypower clip on headset.
my platronics does the same also its annoying you cant even transfer the call back to the device you have to hand up turn off bt and then turn it abck on and headset mode back on it also does the same on my pc
when im on msn using it as a headset it just d/c and i have to turn it off and turn it back on again
dont see what the problem is
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Hi,
I was having the same problem with the M3000. I just had confirmation from Plantronics that this problem is a bug in the product that occurs with the XDA II. I am currently in the process of returning the product.
Regards...Mike
Same problem M3000 doesn't work. Give up now before too much frustration makes you feel ill.
Try the Hello 2 headset. Work with my Aussie XDA2 and is very small and lightweight. Even had a neck chain to carry it around like a USB drive.

BT ouput on handsfree

Hi Everyone,
I had a strange thing happen to me in the car the other day and I was wondering if anyone had any views on it. As my phone linked up to the cars BT hands free kit the radio cut out as if I was making a call.
To get the radio on I had to turn BT off on the phone.
Interestingly enough when this happened I had Audio manager running. And right enough I played a track and it came out on the cars speakers. This would be quite useful only I havent managed to repeat it yet.
Certainly I get a bit of music in the 'gaps' when I make a call if audio manager is running but that is it.
Cheers,
Andy
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Anyone ? Please ...
i believe theres is a program called bttoggle or btcicle, which routes audio to bluetooth on running it, i use it to route audio thru my bt headset once in a while, a simple search for bttoggle or something like that should sort it, i wonder if i can upload it here... mods if this file is not allowed please delete...
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No A2DP
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I'm having problems using my Raphael in combination with a JVC KT-BT1 car stereo.
When, for example, I'm running TomTom, and the phone is connected to the car stereo, all sound is sent to the car stereo through A2DP. No problems there, BUT: the start of each route description is cut off. It looks like the connection has to be set up every time TomTom says something.
One way to solve this is to keep for example a media player running in the background, so that the A2DP connection 'stays alive'. This is however obviously not a nice way to fix this.
I must say that I've had the very same problem with my previous phone (N95), so I'm kind of suspecting it to be a stereo's problem. However, I do hope someone else has come across this issue and knows how to fix this.
Is there a 'A2DP_keep_alive = true' setting somewhere?
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Having a carkit myself, I wanted to use it like this: the radio plays and whenever a direction is needed, tomtom would announce it via the car speakers. However, in my case, when tomtom announces via the speakers, the radio mutes as the carkit takes over.
When using the hack where the "connection" is kept open, the carkit takes over all the time, which basically means no music from the radio.
If your carkit can work alongside the radio at the same time, then maybe this is a solution for you.
Check out (in hermes forum, so not 100% if it works for Raphael):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300268 (which refers to BTaudio: http://www.davidmays.com/blog/?postid=6 )
If there's a better fix I'd like to know as well.
Thanks, but unfortunately it didn't change a thing.
If there's so few people having this problem, I'm really suspecting my car kit...
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Hi,
I occasionally had such an issue with my Parrot CK3100, but I did not get the time yet to investigate further. After the call was connected I did not hear anything, and I am not sure whether the other party could hear me.
On another day, the handsfree was working perfectly OK.
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