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Hi there,
here's a question relating to the soft-keyboard:
I noticed that with some applications (e.g. PHM reg editor) when I want to punch in a value and hit the corresponding field the keyboard will pop up (which is perfect so far). Now, the keyboard sometimes hides the OK button which I'd have to hit to accept the changes but somehow I can't convince the keyboard to go back where it came from - there's no button to disable or change it (like the "12" button you sometimes see in the bottom).
What can I do to get rid of the keyboard in such situations? Is there maybe a hardware button??
Thanks a lot
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear, regardless of the selected input method.
The input method icon, is always displayed when there's a possibility for text input.
ps.: RTM
gnick666 said:
There's an icon between the soft keys on the bottom of the screen that changes according to the desired input method. Touch that and a keyboard will magically disappear...
ps.: RTM
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Read the manual and like I said:
There's NO icon displayed at the bottom of the screen!
Then use another program, that's the best workaround that i can come up whith..
Or there's the possibilty of a greater underlying problem that would need a Hard Reset to fix it... so far you're the first whith this problem...
Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
SabbeRubbish said:
Indeed, I've had this too before, try using WM6 compatbile software, I though that was my problem a few weeks ago. An example is Mozilla Minimo, which is horrible on WM6, not being able to remove the keyboard, or even better, hiding it, but not refreshing the contents behind the keyboard
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Exactly, Minimo is another one of those applications that show this problem.
How about changing your default kb to something else?
There is a reg hack to disable the SIP from displaying when you put focus on any text field, but that is not a good solution for a device that doesn't have a physical kb. I use it on my Treo 750 since I don't need the SIP. However, on the TC, it would make much sense.
On a bit of a side note, I have heard that if TC owners want to use another kb besides the standard Xt9 version, you need to apply the following to disable it:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME
Did your registry tweaks will stop pop up of any keyboard when accessing a text area?
That's what I 'm looking for. Because I installed a full screen keyboard and I use it with a button.
Thxs.
up!!!
Pleaaaaase'!
This app will keep the keyboard from poping up automatically. You can still open it manually. I've not tried it with WM6.
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml
Thanks a lot!
It works!
what full screen keyboard are you using?
I use SPB full keyboard.
Hello everybody,
First off, SUPER FORUM! yes, you guessed it, i'm new.
To be honest, I would never have dreamt of working with a HTC Touch Pro, since i own an iPhone, but recently i was given a free HTC, so here I am.
Why I make this thread, it's the touch keypad that keeps on poppin up, even when I say that primary keys are the full button slide keyboard.
Is there a reg key that I can edit to disable the keyboard, or at least have it kept hidden in the task bar?
thanks in advance!
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.
comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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disable "T9" and change it to "ABC", that would disable the annoying auto word replacement feature
NLS said:
there was another thread about this - no solution found yet
(although I suspect the idea is simple: when keyboard is detected open, change SIP to an empty one, that has nothing to pop out - because it will be much more difficult to PREVENT OS from popping it)
For now just ignore it, it disappears when you click the first physical button anyway.
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What about using that NullKB application that everyone has on their Moguls for precisely the same purpose?
~os
I suspect it will be fine (I'll check it out now).
The problem will be if keyboard is detected as open or not.
thx for the replies guys, too bad there's no real solution
comclusive said:
Yes, I find this too, but the more annoying thing for me is when composing emails and it keeps suggesting words and changing them even though I've deselected autocorrect and suggest words! It would be nice to be able to disable the on-screen keyboard completely and also the word suggestion/correction.
Of course in Opera you can't over-ride the on-screen keyboard anyway...
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found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yay!! thanks!!
If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.
s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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I would seem that after this reg edit certain FN key stop working
i.e £ and € and in my case Sys
Steve
Would someone be kind enough to let me know how to restore the inputs and what's your registry settings for this two keys as I've tried restoring it but to no avail.
If you didnt notice, it screws up your Compact and Full Qwerty keyboard input.
I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!
Joe_PDA said:
I've got the same problem as Comclusive.
When I am typing email or word docs, this auto-correct keeps
locking in on words and I cannot get the cursor off the word. Then it seems to copy that word in the next spot I move the cursor to. It is maddening.
I've shut auto correct and chosen not to suggest words, in as many places as I can find, but my TP just keeps telling me to **** off - it is going to auto-correct and suggest words anyway.
I can't tell who is in Charge, Me or TP.
Help!
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SIMPLE SOLUTION:
Upgrade your ROM with this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444653
It totally solved my problem AND radically improves the GPS.
Sweet!
i have another anoying thing with my TP
in portrait mode in opera if the soft keyboard pops up, it changes from the HTC Full keyboard layout to simple qwerty (small) keyboard layout
verry anoying.
hnparedes said:
If you install the Advanced Conf you can disable it in the keyboard option.
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This is what I did also. Works a treat!
no way to hidde the auto popup keyboard yet? it's so annoying
s.morris said:
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6
Steve
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Yesssssssssssssss! That worked for me too, just got my Touch Pro 2 weeks ago and this issue was driving me crazy!!!!! Thanks!!!
Touch Pro 2 Suggest Words
I have done your registry edit, and it does work for suggested words and the on screen full qwerty keyboard works great for a while, then what happens is I get locked in phone keypad mode when I have full keyboard selected. I can do the smaller keyboard and the Transcriber etc, but when I select Full Qwerty, it keeps me locked in phone key pad. Have you heard of this happening? If I change back the Registry to removed the old suggested words, the problem goes away.
if u have Advanced Configurator or Diamond tweak or something like that (sorry forgot the name), they both have options to stop the touch keypad to automatically popup.
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
I too would like to know the solution for this. I have a feeling that this is kind of a feature from Opera and can't be disabled but it's very annoying for users with hardware keyboard.
I have this issue on my kaiser too
Daniel1515 said:
Hey everyone,
If I have Opera open on my HTC Touch Pro with the hardware keyboard slid out, it still shows the onscreen keyboard (and it's annoying having to keep closing it all the time). Any idea how to fix this?
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
its a bug with opera...
Brendo said:
its a bug with opera...
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Actually, it's not Opera. It's Raphael itself. HTC should have made it in such a way that if the keyboard is out, the SIP should not be displayed.
To prove that it is not Opera, try creating a new SMS. Do this in portrait mode first. Try hiding the SIP and change field (To or Message). You'll see that the SIP is displayed every time you change field. Now slide out the keyboard. Try changing field and you'll see that the SIP is also displayed.
As far as I understand (from another post somwhere on the forum) it's not technically a bug...
It's a requirement of Windows mobile that the SIP is deployed whenever text is entered into a field. Seems rather daft when you have a hardware keyboard on your phone though...
I've had that registry tweak above work for me, the same tweak is implemented in Advanced Config 3.3 as well. There's another fix that *should* work throughout Windows Mobile, for text fields.
It's called nullkb, and installs an option into the SIP menu that gives you a null keyboard option, and any attempt to bring up the SIP brings up nothing. I installed it, and it appeared to work, but after a reset, it defaulted back to the normal keybaord, so you have to select the null keyboard everytime you reset the device.
I'd love to find a way to simply disable auto deployment of the SIP in ALL circumstances. NullKB forces you to go into the SIP menu and select another keyboard should you want to use symbols, for example. The registry fix only seems to (sometimes) work for opera.
I just want the SIP to stay hidden until I want it, and a single click on the keyboard icon should bring the selected keyboard up.
I have no idea how to go around getting this working, I'm more of an end user than a developer...
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change that to 0 and it disables the SIP entirely. I'm thinking this fix and judicious use of PQzII (once I figure out how the hell to set it up...) to set up hardware keys for lots of symbols (where the hell is "\" on the keyboard? On a WM phone I would've thought a \ key would be mandatory...) might be the way forward, though it's a fair amount of work to get everything set up.
branko.savic said:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip>:
Create or change DWORD TurnOffAutoDeploy from 0 to 1
Restart your device!
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That doesn't work, at least not on my CDMA Touch Pro.
SquidgyB said:
e: there's also this reg key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
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Doesn't work on my CDMA Touch Pro That regedit makes the keyboard appear on screen all the time, with no way to minimize it.
it is a bug in opera...
it is well documented as one
you can see if you disable autodeploy of keybaord (use advanced config) and youll see it still appears in opera. the only work around is to download nullkb and select it as your input while using opera
I had the problem with nullkb that it wouldn't stay as the default SIP after a soft reset. Loading PQzII and setting a link to PQzII in the startup folder fixed this, as within PQzII you can select which SIP should be displayed in portrait *and* landscape individually.
This still means a couple of clicks to get a keyboard up in landscape for entering symbols, but if in portrait the SIP will display normally.
I still can't get the "\" to work properly through PQzII though... it displays odd characters whenever I enter it into any of the PQzII configuration options. I suspect \ is used extensively in the code or something, and this messes up what's going on inside PQzII.
Hi All,
I have been trying to get japanese input working on my Raphael, and have run into some problems. Here's what I have done:
1. Installed LesJapanNo6 - all working/tested no problems
soft reset
2. Installed IME_31J_QVGA_F file
soft reset
-> manila.exe error, device.exe error, and another exe error (can't remember now - think it was TouchFlo3d related). Hardware keys dead.
3. Made the registry edit to get hardware keys working
soft reset (note, regional settings still Japanese)
After that, every time I would try and input something, or change the input method, I get ongoing crashes in device.exe (until I closed the kayboard).
I then decided to change the regional setting back to English (UK), and then soft reset. Now it starts with no errors, but input is stuck on hiragana and the keyboard icon has disappeared so no standard romaji input.
I think I now have to install the enable_ime_2 and/or enable_ime_3 cabs, but am paranoid I have already done something wrong (crashes etc from step 2). Can anyone more experienced hint at the final steps to get this all working?
Thanks,
Raj
The steps you have above should work fine, but use the VGA version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/159514259/IME_31J_F.cab.html
You might need to go ahead and hard reset before you try again.
Just for reference, I have LetsJapanNo6 and IME_31J_F on my Raphael 1.90.405.1 WWE (UK stock ROM), with the following reg tweaks applied:
Code:
[HKCU\Keyboard Layout\Preload]
default = "E0010411"
[HKCU\Keyboard Layout\Preload\1]
default = "E0010411"
[HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\IMEJP\3.1\MSIME]
Option3 = "D"
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
Keyboard Layout = "00000409"
Word of caution: when you go to edit the reg values, highlight the text and write over it; don't use the backspace key, because for some reason it inserts a lot of garbled text. Once you've saved the reg edits and soft-reset, the backspace key functions as normal again.
Also consider using PQzII to map keycode 0xE6 to IME; this will allow you to press the SYM key on the hardware keyboard to toggle between ascii (A→a) and kana (A→あ) input.
Other known issues: JP IME breaks T9/word suggestion, some other minor oddities.
SoftBank is releasing its version of the Raphael, so be on the lookout for a native JP ROM (which will have everything set up correctly) in the future.
Working perfectly now, fantastic!!!
Thanks!!!
I tried to map the SYM button to IME. But there is no way for me to specify 0xE6 in the IME menu.
is the new Raphael PQzII different?
aquasesh said:
I tried to map the SYM button to IME. But there is no way for me to specify 0xE6 in the IME menu.
is the new Raphael PQzII different?
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I typed it in.
I'm using 008e1, but the latest e2 should be fine.
I have had this working for about a month now but was wondering how to get a keyboard shortcut to switch the kana/romanji input. This works perfect.. thanks!!!
thanks!!!
just a shot question:
as I use the hw-kb of my xperia for inputting text, it would be cool to have the tegaki-kb as standard one. Whenever I set it in Windows Mobile-Settings, it gets switched back to romaji-kb on restart.
is there a reg-hack for this?
would greatly appreciate your help!!!
ttkman said:
just a shot question:
as I use the hw-kb of my xperia for inputting text, it would be cool to have the tegaki-kb as standard one. Whenever I set it in Windows Mobile-Settings, it gets switched back to romaji-kb on restart.
is there a reg-hack for this?
would greatly appreciate your help!!!
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It might be a problem with Xperia Panels resetting it to romaji-kb (TouchFlo3D does the same thing on the Touch Pro).
If you use PQzII, you can configure it to override the default input panel. You can even specify different default panels for portrait and landscape. Just open up the setup program (PQzII_Setup) and the settings is on the first page.
nevermind, got everything working!
thanks!
Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? Like when your using opera mobile, u touch the address bar, the sip keyboard automatically pops up. I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
I know on my tilt there was a way to set it so only when u are in landscape the sip keyboard wont automatically pop up while selecting a text field. The sip keyboard will only automatically pop up in portrait mode while selecting a text field. Anyone know how to set it up this way? Thanks!
deeznuts said:
Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? Like when your using opera mobile, u touch the address bar, the sip keyboard automatically pops up. I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
I know on my tilt there was a way to set it so only when u are in landscape the sip keyboard wont automatically pop up while selecting a text field. The sip keyboard will only automatically pop up in portrait mode while selecting a text field. Anyone know how to set it up this way? Thanks!
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If you have Diamond Tweaks installed, there is a registry setting under the #20 Keyboard (SIP), 20.1 Automatic display (popup). Enabling that setting should keep the SIP keyboard from popping up when you select text fields, but it will not pop up when in portrait mode by default either. I don't remember the registry setting to disable the pop up for landscape mode only.
Dramacydle said:
If you have Diamond Tweaks installed, there is a registry setting under the #20 Keyboard (SIP), 20.1 Automatic display (popup). Enabling that setting should keep the SIP keyboard from popping up when you select text fields, but it will not pop up when in portrait mode by default either. I don't remember the registry setting to disable the pop up for landscape mode only.
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Thanks! This will do for now at least. If somehow knows how to disable sip auto pop up in landscape while keeping it obviously in portrait that would be amazing! Anyone?
deeznuts said:
Thanks! This will do for now at least. If somehow knows how to disable sip auto pop up in landscape while keeping it obviously in portrait that would be amazing! Anyone?
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HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.
At0mAng said:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.
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Thanks, ill try this out too. The diamond config as mentioned above did totally nothing for it, if anything it made it worse. Im sure a reg edit like this will kill it though. I dont use opera mobile too much, just used it as an example. I mainly use opera mini in landscape so it can get annoying when typing in a text box and every time you open it the sip keyboard pops up.
deeznuts said:
Thanks, ill try this out too. The diamond config as mentioned above did totally nothing for it, if anything it made it worse. Im sure a reg edit like this will kill it though. I dont use opera mobile too much, just used it as an example. I mainly use opera mini in landscape so it can get annoying when typing in a text box and every time you open it the sip keyboard pops up.
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Hi:
did you try the reg edit? Did it work?
At0mAng said:
With Opera there is a different setting. Not sure what it is off the top of my head but if you search on the hacking section you will find it.
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Didn't find a solution for Opera. Although it is not the issue of the keyboard popping up when i touch a text box that bugs me, its more when a page is loading and the keyboard appears for no reason
I use nullkeyboard. yeah, it completely kills the sip for everything, but one can switch it back and forth similar to choosing type of input (transcriber, keyboard, letter recognizer, nullkeyboard)
euphoria47 said:
Didn't find a solution for Opera. Although it is not the issue of the keyboard popping up when i touch a text box that bugs me, its more when a page is loading and the keyboard appears for no reason
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I think it has to do with flashlite 3.1... As soon as I installed it on my phone, Opera began doing the same thing. As soon I touch a flash object, the keyboard will pop up. Very annoying but I've learned to deal with it.
I am still looking for a fix for Opera.
deeznuts said:
Anyone have a cab or reg edit to stop the sip keyboard to always pop up when u select a text field/box? I always use the hardware keyboard (main reason for getting a fuze and not a diamond!) and still while in landscape the sip keyboard will still pop up.
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You can try Mobilnaut SYM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459253
The main purpose of this software is to be able to use the SYM key to add accents on letters, but in addition it will automatically hide the SIP keyboard when you open the hardware keyboard:
It's simple SIP, which means it will be shown as standard input method, but when you click on the icon, no keyboard will be shown. That's useful when you are using hardware keyboard and you are trying to type something, with this SIP no software keyboard will pop up and cover half of the screen. And it's automatically activated only in landscape, in portrait mode you can use your favorite software input method. This program will remember the input method you used before, and when you slide your keyboard back, this method will be set as active.
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question on mobilnaut sym
raphaelcno said:
You can try Mobilnaut SYM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459253
The main purpose of this software is to be able to use the SYM key to add accents on letters, but in addition it will automatically hide the SIP keyboard when you open the hardware keyboard:
It's simple SIP, which means it will be shown as standard input method, but when you click on the icon, no keyboard will be shown. That's useful when you are using hardware keyboard and you are trying to type something, with this SIP no software keyboard will pop up and cover half of the screen. And it's automatically activated only in landscape, in portrait mode you can use your favorite software input method. This program will remember the input method you used before, and when you slide your keyboard back, this method will be set as active.
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I installed this one but since I have a FUZE keyboard, I don't have the SYM key where mobilnaut sym thinks it should be. Instead, my SYM is on FN+Space, and when I hit that, I get a pop up list with all the characters for me to pick.
I have no clue how to do it, but if we could have this app work with a key different to SYM it would work!
Hi all,
everytime I open a game like Tonyhawk Pro skater 2, or if i want to learn italian with rosetta stone software, always I see a bottom bar with the sip keyboard. For Tonyhawk its irritating cause i could see the game bigger, and for rosetta stone, it totally ****s up my layout.
I tried reg. edits. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
Tried nullkeyboard program, even tried advanced config, but the lower bar is always there.
is there a way to open programs in full screen? or is there a way to totally kill my lower menubar for wm.6.5?