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Phone won't turn on...keeps restarting

I've read in other forums of this problem but have not been able to find a solution (not entirely true).....when I turn the phone on in the morning, it just keeps restarting without going to the home screen. Sometimes it take 2 reboots sometimes more. The only way it will boot up correctly right from the start is to take the mem card out, so I think that's probably the problem, but it's not a corrupt or problem card. Once the phone starts and I put in the mem card all is fine.
I want to try to format the memory card from the phone, but don't know how to. Anyone else know how to do this? Also any other suggestions or solutions?

I got this once. Somehow i got the phone on. I just took the card out and put it in when its about to restart. Mabye it was luck, but i dont know. But if you get your phone on again, I would certainly format it (clear storage)

Does your phone ever act up again after that? Mine still does. It turns on fine without the memory card in. By the way, how do you format the memory card on the phone?

Mine rebooted all the time until I removed Facade. Hard Reset the phone and didn't install it and haven't had the problem since. I know Facade isn't "compatible" yet with WM6, but other than rebooting it worked fine.

Really....I'm going to try that and see what happens.

For those that have this problem, it's true. Once Facade is uninstalled and a soft reset, the problem went away....

I had this happnen to me for the first time today. I had the phone off all night (was testing another device) and then when I put my SIM back in and powered up it went into this reboot cycle. powerd off, even took the battery out still no luck.
Then I took the SIM out and tried to power up and it came right up. Powered off and put the SIM back and it worked agian first time.
Not sure, but maybe the SIM was not fully seated... since this was the first time I actually took it out since I get the VOX...and this was the first time I had the problem...
Regards -John

I had the same problem, although I never installed Facade, Initially the phone was fine and the it started re-booting on startup. I saw a suggestion of running SKtools and removeing duplicates in the Notification table, this worked for a while, then it came back again.
At first the only cure appeared to be to re-boot without the sd card inserted - inserting it again after the phone was running (it even had the same problem with a blank card inserted)
I then read abot someone putting the phone in Flight mode before turning it off - this also solved the problem - better than removing the card each time.
Mike

After hard reset - lost option to store attachments on storage card
I had the same problem and solved it by hard resetting the device. However after the hard reset the option to user the storage card for email attachments has disappeared from the pOutlook options screen.
The SD Card is OK and I tried to solve it by a new hard reset, but it is still not resolved.
I would be very graefull for the one that has a solution for this.

I have the same problem with my SD card.
With the card inserted the phone keeps rebooting.
With the card removed it starts normally.
When I insert the card when WM6 is running the card is normal accessible.
Tried an other card and also a 1 Gb card. Same problem over and over.
I'm going to try a Kingston card.
If anyone has a solution, I'll be happy to hear it.

i have my microSD inserted when i power on my Vox but didn't have this problem. what rom version do you have? my rom version is 1.15.405.2.

I have a friend with a similar problem. Would appreciate any further input on this situation. Has anyone taken a look at Paul's (from Modaco) answer to soft reset loop????
Check it out and see if it does anything. Want to know if that'll fix it before I take the phone off his hands.

Hi all,
Like many Vox users, I've also suffered from this problem.
I've noticed two scenarios which helped me solve the "boot-loop". Hopefully they'll help others.
I once had a GPRS monitor application installed to my strorage card. Re-installing to the phones memory helped me.
Also, when I had bluetooth turned on, I powered down, powered-up again, and the phone booted okay!
I think theres a few variables involved in this, and no single "silver bullet". Hopefully HTC will provide an official fix soon.
Michael.

Friends,
Thats all humours. Don't need to remove/install any software. All work fine except you reboot and remove your SD card.
Its simple: if rebooting occurs, just remove SD card and once booted, reinsert SD card, simple! nothing else need to do.
Its true that its a bug with WM unfortunately; i don't know when would it be resolved.

i have tried to boot up with 512MB & 1GB sd card but never had this rebooting problem. Maybe you can let me know your current rom code version and i will try to verify the problem?

I have got the same problem my phone keeps on restarting...
when i put the mem-card after restarting it is being opened as storage card 2, and default storage card option asks for turning on the bluetooth.

Re: Rebooting of Vox
Hi,
Had this problem once (and drove me nuts!, I was out on tour, no PC access nothing).
I formatted the SD Card (Its always better to use a card reader and format it from a PC.
Another I had this problem (hope you are not as dumb as me ):
I use TPC and set it to ultra slow . So every time I booted up, the CPU was not simply powerful enough to cater to the power requirement and rebooted. I had to do a Hard Reset. Hope you have your contacts backup before you go for a hard reset

hhs6789 said:
I have got the same problem my phone keeps on restarting...
when i put the mem-card after restarting it is being opened as storage card 2, and default storage card option asks for turning on the bluetooth.
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If you have bluetooth file explorer turned on, it will show as a storage card

i had it long time ago with one of the official htc roms.
The solution is to make loose the simcard-slot in the middle of the booting.
Vox will turn off.
Close and start the phone again.
It should be over then.

Re: Official ROMs
Yeah! The official ROMs suck! actually the best solution will be to switch to a custom ROM from Dr G/FH / fireburned, they are much much better feature wise/ battery backup wise and speed wise. I think HTC should try using one of those ROM as there official ROM

Thought I saw every weird thing in wm6 guess not.

Hi, guys and gals, just wondering if anyone experience this with thier wm6, just the other day my MDA froze and like usually if it does I would have to take out the battery and reinstall it. But this time a very new experience came in, all the programs I installed on my SD card is missing, but I'm able to access the SD card and all the other files are there, except the files in Program folder odd eh? So I try to reinstall some of the programs to my SD card and the same thing happen, no files in the program folder after reboot? Oh yeah and also when I tried to use spb backup to restore a point didn't work too, still the programs that were install on SD card is missing so somehow the files just disappear on the SD card...on the files in the program folder. And now if I try to install on the SD card it still doesn't work.
Rom version 10.2.0.8 WWE
NBD v5.3

happened to me too.
I had this happen to me as well. I blamed it on the battery. I let it drain down to 2 or 3 % which I had never done. I was using one of the MUN variations, not sure which I must admit as I have been flashing almost daily. Besides the missing programs and inability to install either on the sd, or main mem , I was having my first instability issues. It was freezing, restarting by itself and not responding to controls. I flashed with the new crossbow 1.7 and reformatted the card. No problems in 2 days of use.

i've heard problems like this back when people were using wm5. sounds like something got corrupted on your card. actually...something like this happened to me once too...i think i just re-formated the card and re-installed the apps and it worked out afterwards. or if you're lucky the quick and easy...take the memory card out...and then plug it back in after a few seconds...and see if the card functions properly afterwards...sounds simplistic...but for some reason every now and then some cards use to get corrupted...

PROBLEMS SOLVED! (Having a bad night... please help!)

Hello,
still relatively new here and have been having a good experience in general (other than wife complaining i am spending too much time on the forum )
I have a Orange Kaiser, using DCS 1.5 and a 1.64 radio. So far so good,...but tonight is a nightmare:
- My SD card, a 8GB model, is showing NO FILES on file explorer, other than a ttom file: I hard reset, and still nothing. But the memory programm is showing 3.5GB is used on the card. I browsed the card on my PC...same thing! I used to have maps, photos, cab files,... I tried scanning the card on my pc, and it did find a lot of lost files, but not usable. I basically am reformating the card since I have most on my PC, except for a few pictures. Did that happen to anyone before? I hope it does not happen too often, but a good lesson learnt on backup!
- The most annoying thing is that after hardware reset the Kaiser I still cannot connect the Kaiser to my PC! When I connect through a USB cable, I would see the carging led lit, but no connection. I have vista and upgraded to the latest 6.1 windows mobile device center, and still nothing. THis is really annoying as I cannot even flash a new ROM! I tried on my wife PC, tried several USB cables, and still the same.. Any idea? Should I jsut go to bed
Hopefully I can solve this one as I can't do much without it!
Thanks for any tip.
Juju

Start, settings, Connections TAB, USB-to-pc: untick "enable advanced networking"
My sdhc card has been fine for the last few months.

unwired4 said:
Start, settings, Connections TAB, USB-to-pc: untick "enable advanced networking"
My sdhc card has been fine for the last few months.
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Unfortunately tried that before and still nothing!
Juju

I know you probably don't want to hear this, but I've heard of quite a few of the larger Micro SD Cards (4GB/8GB) wiping themselves. I never looked deep into the cause though. As for your Active Sync, can you connect to a Windows XP based computer?

Just a couple days ago my 2GB MicroSD started refusing to write, kicking back errors that the disk was full (with 1.5GB free)
I copied all the data off and reformatted the card, copied it back, and it was fine. Must have been a corruption in the FAT.. caused by.. who knows!

juju-35 said:
Hello,
still relatively new here and have been having a good experience in general (other than wife complaining i am spending too much time on the forum )
I have a Orange Kaiser, using DCS 1.5 and a 1.64 radio. So far so good,...but tonight is a nightmare:
- My SD card, a 8GB model, is showing NO FILES on file explorer, other than a ttom file: I hard reset, and still nothing. But the memory programm is showing 3.5GB is used on the card. I browsed the card on my PC...same thing! I used to have maps, photos, cab files,... I tried scanning the card on my pc, and it did find a lot of lost files, but not usable. I basically am reformating the card since I have most on my PC, except for a few pictures. Did that happen to anyone before? I hope it does not happen too often, but a good lesson learnt on backup!
- The most annoying thing is that after hardware reset the Kaiser I still cannot connect the Kaiser to my PC! When I connect through a USB cable, I would see the carging led lit, but no connection. I have vista and upgraded to the latest 6.1 windows mobile device center, and still nothing. THis is really annoying as I cannot even flash a new ROM! I tried on my wife PC, tried several USB cables, and still the same.. Any idea? Should I jsut go to bed
Hopefully I can solve this one as I can't do much without it!
Thanks for any tip.
Juju
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You can put the phone in boot loader mode (hold down the camera button and do a soft reset) disable activesync on your PC then flash to another ROM or go back to the factory ROM. Hope this helps
-McMex

Sounds like you need to format the card. That usually works when they give errors like that.

A7LAS said:
Sounds like you need to format the card. That usually works when they give errors like that.
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Wow, scary thread. I think I'll back my card up right now. I install program files onto it frequently, I'd hate to lose all of that suddenly.

mcmexican said:
You can put the phone in boot loader mode (hold down the camera button and do a soft reset) disable activesync on your PC then flash to another ROM or go back to the factory ROM. Hope this helps
-McMex
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Ok, will try this, I am sure I could be yelled at because it is in the wiki somewhere, but how would I load the new ROM without the USB connection working? Boot form SD card?
I will also try another XP machine at work. Maybe it is a stupid security setting from Vista....
Thanks all for the feedback.
Juju
PS: Thanks for the other comments on the card. I re-formatted it (using a SD card reader), and now it looks fine, I was able to read my files again copied form the PC. Everyobyd make sure you backup for SD card often is all I would say!

Once you have the phone in bootloader mode and activesync disabled. Just run the rom like you normally would if it was connected thru activesync. It will recognize the phone and start the flash.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Once you have the phone in bootloader mode and activesync disabled. Just run the rom like you normally would if it was connected thru activesync. It will recognize the phone and start the flash.
-McMex
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Thanks so much, will try over lunch!

Problems Solved!
Sorry empty post! (how do I delete a post!)

Problems Solved!
SD CARD not showing any files
I had to basically reformat it and lost all my files (4.5G worth). Fortunately I have 99% on my PC. Backing up the PC as we speak!
Lesson learnt: Backup your SD cards often!
Kaiser would not connect through USB
So, after trying XP, USB to PC options, bootloader mode (would do a 260 error), ...
I discovered my mini USB connector inside the Kaiser looked like it was not right (showing 4 pins higher than the other 2 in the middle). One of the engineers at work used his swiss army knife and straightened the inside of the connector, and... it worked. He did say it may not last long, so I may have to exchange the phone, but for now I am connected.
Lesson learnt: Beware when connecting and disconnecting, those connectors are fragile.
Thanks all for your help, and sorry to bother you with my problems.
Juju

DON'T do this.. it may help!

Hola....
I have the TP now 4 like 3 weeks....
In the beginning I installed a lot of programs on my STORAGE CARD!
After the installation I had a lot of problems with my device...like the broken screen issue...and the grey stripes....phone flippin...crashing....thinghs like that.
BUT then I did a hardware reset....took the easy way...
setting->system-> erase content..
After my reset I installed all the programs I installed before...
programs like advanced config, diamond tweak,, coreplayer,klaxon, tomtom etc...
BUT the difference was that I installed everything on my phone....
It worked great 4 me!
I never have issues with my phone anymore....
Everything runs smooth!
so DON'T install programs on your card...
It helped me....maybe it is gonna help you!

you might be on to something here!
thanx for sharing.

With the HUGE amount of storage on-board there's really no need to install programs to the storage card anyway. Plus stuff runs faster from internal storage and is still available if the card is ever removed, or if you connect to a PC in DISK DRIVE mode (which makes the storage card unavailable to the phone's OS).
Basically, always use internal storage until you start getting low, then use the storage card, but only for programs you use rarely.
Incidentally I think Tomtom always installs to the storage card, I don't recall ever having a choice to put it into internal storage.

Now that you mention after my "grey screen" issue i've never installed anything on my storage card and my TP is running fine ever since.
I never thought i could be something so simple and like Jim Coleman mentioned with that much memory on the device who needs the storage card for installations anymore
Great finding pensador
P.S. I will publish this on the wiki at the know issue's section

I have everything installed on my phone, and not the card (except TomTom) and I had the broken gray screen thing once about 4 days into owning the TP and never since. Ive had it weeks now.

Jiggs1337 said:
I have everything installed on my phone, and not the card (except TomTom) and I had the broken gray screen thing once about 4 days into owning the TP and never since. Ive had it weeks now.
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Have you used any Tweak programs??
I have found that if you use any 'Generic' Tweak programs the unit starts to go squiffy..seems a few non-device specific Tweaks from older devices cause problems, especially BT (different hardware and even WM5, 6 and 6.1 specific!).
Just add the known working tweaks for this device via a reg editor ( most Diamond seem to be OK so far) and if you add them one-by-one you will know where problems occur..
Remember, everything on this forum holds the the 'Caveat Emptor' disclaimer..(except you usually get it for free!)
Here, use this from windows when connected via Async if you don't have an internal reg editor (takes up zero room also!)

Search for the thread with Raphael tweaks, before the device was even released someone who got their hands on a pre-release tested out every single tweak from the "Diamond tweaks" thread and gave feedback on if it worked or not, and how much it improved the device. That should narrow it down to the tweaks you should do and the ones you shouldn't bother with.

Thundarr The Barbarian said:
Search for the thread with Raphael tweaks, before the device was even released someone who got their hands on a pre-release tested out every single tweak from the "Diamond tweaks" thread and gave feedback on if it worked or not, and how much it improved the device. That should narrow it down to the tweaks you should do and the ones you shouldn't bother with.
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Yup can't agree more..
Search and Ye shall learn.

lol, since i owned the TP i already installed everything on the phone itself and not the storagecard.
and like i mentioned in other threads, i have never hed a problem so far.
(still knocking on wood)
even TT works great, no GPS lag or what ever (the maps are on storagecard but program is not).

I have to say that I installed a ton of programs on my Storage card, and never had any issue. I am using a 2GB MicroSd card. Maybe the problem is with larger capacity cards or the SDHC drivers on the mobile itself?

I have the Touch Pro for a bit over a month now and never had any issues with the screen or anything else other than the GPS. Most of my applications are installed on the memory card, except WkTask and Pocket Wakeup. I have also used advanced config 3.2 to alter many settings. I have a 8Gb microSD Sandisk card which I purchased for my N95 many months ago when they first came out, which is formatted as FAT32. I don't know if these help but I guess other factors should be considered, like the SD card's format, it's speed and it's quality.

I got allmost all mt programs installed on the storage card (8GB SDHC) exept the advanced config. and my phone works like like a dream.. ok that was to exaggerate
But I never had any issues with it since I uninstalled sensor lock from the phone.

Farsquidge said:
Have you used any Tweak programs??
I have found that if you use any 'Generic' Tweak programs the unit starts to go squiffy..seems a few non-device specific Tweaks from older devices cause problems, especially BT (different hardware and even WM5, 6 and 6.1 specific!).
Just add the known working tweaks for this device via a reg editor ( most Diamond seem to be OK so far) and if you add them one-by-one you will know where problems occur..
Remember, everything on this forum holds the the 'Caveat Emptor' disclaimer..(except you usually get it for free!)
Here, use this from windows when connected via Async if you don't have an internal reg editor (takes up zero room also!)
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I used AdvancedConfig to apply the speed boost tweaks as well as various other things, like power saving stuff. I did a registry edit to hide SIM contacts, that didnt save though after a soft reset.
I only had the gray screen once at a restaurant about 4 or 5 days after receiving it. Since then I have had a few freezes, but nothing major. TomTom works great for me too.
Also, something strange, when i got it new, it got very hot like i read on the forum from a few people, but since then, it doesnt do that. It gets a little warm, but not hot.

hey friends,
I installed Google Maps in storage card (4GB HDHC).
sometimes I feel it freezes. I have to close the app and restart it to make it work properly, or I have to do soft reset.
if I will install it in my phone memory, will Google Maps cache consume lot of space?

thehellraiser said:
hey friends,
I installed Google Maps in storage card (4GB HDHC).
sometimes I feel it freezes. I have to close the app and restart it to make it work properly, or I have to do soft reset.
if I will install it in my phone memory, will Google Maps cache consume lot of space?
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... way to bring a post from last year back into action:[
no it will not you should just install it to your phone , there is more than enough room to hold 15 google maps if you wanted so don't fret about installing things to internal memory.

6.1 ROMs have SD Issues - anyone find a fix?

All of them that I've tried, thus far.
You MAY NOT see this, by the way, depending on your access pattern, but it is DEFINITELY HAPPENING.
The problem is that its really, really ugly - your card's data is slowly being DESTROYED.
When it hits the "wrong" file, you will find out - the hard way.
This is NOT a "cooked ROM" problem - AT&T's base 6.1 load does the same thing (!)
The EASIEST way to find it is to use Advanced Config to move the IE cache to the card, then play a while. Suddenly the device will lock. You soft reset, and all "appears" well. Its not.
How do I know its damaging data? Because it has scrambled my TomTom map files "just enough" that TomTom comes up "No Maps" (!) - but the file names ARE THERE. The signatures are destroyed - it only takes ONE BYTE of change in the wrong place to do it.
Now what the ##$)! is PIE doing writing in that directory? Its not - on purpose.
The RSS reader will reliably do this too.
If you point them at main memory, no problems. Its SPECIFIC to the SD handler.
Its also SPECIFIC to 6.1 ROMs. 6.0 does NOT exhibit the problem, yet EVERY 6.1 load I've tried can be provoked into doing this.
The only fix is DON'T WRITE TO THE SD CARD via programs. Well.... that's not the WORST thing in the world on a Kaiser as it has a lot of internal memory, but....
Anyone know what the #@#$ is going on here - or have a fix for it?
PS: If you think you're not running into this, don't say I didn't warn you when you find one of your files destroyed without warning. I have run byte-wise compares of SD images and the corruption appears to be almost completely random. And yes, its across both SDHC and non-HC cards (2GB) - both are hit by it, and I've got three, all from different manufacturers. This is VERY reproducable and its not hardware either since 6.0 does NOT exhibit the problem.

Quite interesting... which rom build are you using ?

Have tried several - the most recent being the Hyperdragon 11/15 build.
The stock AT&T 6.1 build did the same thing as soon as I switched PIE's storage to the card. Its not instantaneous but if you browse for a significant length of time it WILL do it.
Flashed to 3.29 HardSPL to be able to load the various cooked ones here, all that I've tried so far do the same thing. Flash back to 6.0 AT&T, no problems.
VERY consistent.
I just put 3.28 HardSPL on to see if that changes anything. Can't imagine why it would, but....
Its pretty subtle if you don't browse heavily - if you get a "lockup" with PIE while its set to write to the card YOU ARE SCREWED. You may not know WHICH file got smashed but I guarantee one did. If it smashes the MFT then the fun really begins (the entire card's contents are gone), but I would prefer that to a RANDOM file getting destroyed!
I have run sector-by-sector compares and have found that where it "scribbles" when it happens appears to be completely random.
And again - 6.0 does NOT do it, and if you only READ from the card, its fine.
I suspect that its a "per-event" risk and so anything that runs from the card and writes data back there EVENTUALLY will screw you - its just a matter of time.

Genesis3 said:
The EASIEST way to find it is to use Advanced Config to move the IE cache to the card, then play a while. Suddenly the device will lock. You soft reset, and all "appears" well. Its not.
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thats why it is strongly recommended NOT TO store ie cache to storage card. Keep it on device memory. There is no fix for this problem yet except keeping ie cache on device.

Sounds pretty easy to bypass the problem, eh? Don't store stuff to the card. No big deal. I mean, c'mon, it's not like we're going to run out of memory storing the IE cache on the device.
Beside that, it must only be IE as I've always used the card to store my email and attachments and have never had a problem. However, I am using a 16GB card...perhaps that makes a difference. I've been running various 6.1 ROMs (including some questionable betas) for almost a year now and have experienced ZERO corruption. Also, if it makes a difference, I perform so much data transfer with my card on a weekly basis. Pretty much filling and emptying about every third day.

It is NOT only IE.
The RSS reader that is in there (RSSHub) that HTC stuffed in the later roms does it too.
I managed to trigger it last night with RssHub; thinking IE was the only culprit cost me (another) reload of my SD card.
Be careful - if its per-event risk then ANYTHING you store on the card (e.g. pictures, etc) could cause it, and apps like TomTom that write places you set as destinations to as a cache can cause it too - its just that being data dependant the more often you write, the higher the risk.
BTW this is a 6.1 issue that does NOT affect the Wizard - I have had a custom (I cooked it) 6.1 ROM on my Wizard for six+ months without a single screwup. But I've yet to find a 6.1 ROM for the Kaiser that DOESN'T have this problem.
BTW, is there a 6.1 ROM around WITHOUT the new PIE? God I hate the new format on that thing...

I have been beating on PIE stored on the card, plus RSS stored on the card now for over an hour - after loading HardSPL 3.28 (was running 3.29) and SO FAR I haven't had it happen.
Now this doesn't mean much, but that I got a solid couple of hours in without it blowing up - when I was pretty reliably able to do it previously - might be significant.
Or maybe not.
I'll run this way for a week or so and see if I can get it to misbehave.... I have card backups

yah i have learnt to back up my sd all the time cause im CONSTANTLY getting corruption..but corruption i can see like messed uop names and folders which ive found more consistant when i have sd power settings set to enabled in advanced config..

I have also witnessed RSSHub destroying my card several times
I remember this problem when WM5 came out on the Artemis. It was linked to the power state and the device going into sleep mode. It never occured when you used the power button, only when it went into automatic sleep. I think there are options in schaps advanced config regarding this - might be worth a try.

Genesis3 said:
Have tried several - the most recent being the Hyperdragon 11/15 build.
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I mean CE build number and aku. We have now many available builds from which to choose, and we could investigate whether it's a problem related to an HTC driver alone or if there's something in the SYS services too which has to be patched. I'm not talking about workarounds at all.

20931.1.5.0 (assuming the SYS and XIP were ported)
I don't have the numbers from the AT&T load handy.
Downgrading the SPL MAY have fixed it. I haven't had a lock/trash since last night when I changed the SPL. Hmmmm..... that "hotfix" may have been a "hotf$ck" instead.
Will update as/when I learn more.

This is NOT WM6.1 problem, if anything - it is WinMo's problem in general (all versions).
I have witnessed exactly same problem on WM 2003, WM2003SE, WM5, WM6 and WM6.1 - and I bet its the same on WM2002 and WM2000 (I just never had any of those ancient devices).
Solution is very simple:
DO NOT move IE cache to SD card, that's all.
Unless you have to (i.e. my iPAQ 6515 have literally no space left on Main Storage and I have to use SD for IE cache etc) then simply make at least weekly backups of your SD on your PC, its not a big deal, but it is annoying like hell (specially when it happens "on the road").

I have same problem several times!
Most offen it's happend in A***OS Smart Rom (don't remember full name), then i flash into wm6.1 off and it happends only one time. I use StorageTools to ix My Card after that (not data, only card)...
Is this heal????

Just use Opera browser. I dont have that problem in my tilt, although i did had problem with hermes, and scan and fix errors for the card made it go away. And i also a 2GB card, maybe it is an issue with higher storage capacity cards.

hi there, i have similar problem with my vario 3, i have installed all my application on sd card including tomtom. I have about 500 mp3 and pictures. i can listen to music all day at work but when turn my tomtom on, it says no maps found and then everything disappears on the sd card. it still shows in memory status that i have used 70% of my sd card but it doesn't show anything in win explorer.
i think it might have caused by installing tomtom on sd card.
can anyone help please?

mohsin_75 said:
hi there, i have similar problem with my vario 3, i have installed all my application on sd card including tomtom. I have about 500 mp3 and pictures. i can listen to music all day at work but when turn my tomtom on, it says no maps found and then everything disappears on the sd card. it still shows in memory status that i have used 70% of my sd card but it doesn't show anything in win explorer.
i think it might have caused by installing tomtom on sd card.
can anyone help please?
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To recover that files you can use de windows tool error checking that will recover your files but to the found.000 folder (hidden), but the files are useless because is will be on the wrong extension and name
you have now 2 solutions:
1 - is guest the extension of that files and rename it
or
2- use the program named "getbackdata for fat" and it will correct the name and the file extension but not the correct name of the folder where it was. but better than nothing.
hope i could help

I saw this many times with RSSHUB - finally moved to main mem and have not seen it since. I also don't use PIE. It will be interesting to see if its 3.59 causing the issue, please keep us posted. I went a bought a new card thinking that it was a bad card:

If you're running 3.29 get it off your device - in fact, there should be a WARNING on the page for the various HardSPL versions. This may be device version specific (are there multiple hardware versions of the Kaiser as there are with the MDA?) but on MINE, 3.29 does this repeatedly.
I have now been running 3.28 for a week with ALL power management enabled, RSSHub and PIE caching to the storage card, and all my user-loaded apps running from the storage card, and I have been intentionally pounding the everloving hell out of it to try to get it to misbehave.
ZERO ISSUES.
The ONLY thing I changed was the SPL. I didn't even reflash the ROM (just the SPL) when I changed it - just used Jump to get back into the "superCID" mode and flashed 3.29 down to 3.28.
If you're running something other than 3.28, try 3.28.
So far, one week in, it has completely fixed this problem on my Kaiser.

Genesis3 said:
If you're running 3.29 get it off your device - in fact, there should be a WARNING on the page for the various HardSPL versions. This may be device version specific (are there multiple hardware versions of the Kaiser as there are with the MDA?) but on MINE, 3.29 does this repeatedly.
I have now been running 3.28 for a week with ALL power management enabled, RSSHub and PIE caching to the storage card, and all my user-loaded apps running from the storage card, and I have been intentionally pounding the everloving hell out of it to try to get it to misbehave.
ZERO ISSUES.
The ONLY thing I changed was the SPL. I didn't even reflash the ROM (just the SPL) when I changed it - just used Jump to get back into the "superCID" mode and flashed 3.29 down to 3.28.
If you're running something other than 3.28, try 3.28.
So far, one week in, it has completely fixed this problem on my Kaiser.
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Does this happen with both cmonex’s & jockeyw2001’s HardSPL 3.29?

It happens with the ORIGINAL REAL 3.29 SPL that AT&T is shipping with their STOCK 6.1 ROMs!
That's not one of the hacked ones - that's OEM. I was able to REPEATEDLY lock the device and scramble the card by sticking PIE's cache on the card with the stock AT&T ROM.
I'm near 100% convinced its the 3.29 SPL that is FUBAR'd and not the hacking on it. I don't know why it should matter (its just a boot loader) but perhaps its doing something funky with the SD interface and whatever it does survives ROM initialization during the boot process.
In any event with 3.28 on my Kaiser I have had ZERO ISSUES with SD corruption or freezes of any kind, going on a week now. I've had no reason to reset it - at all - during that time.
I won't call this "conclusive" for another week or two, but given that with my usual usage I wouldn't survive ONE HOUR on 3.29, well, you tell me.