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Hard SPL

i was thinking the other day and came to wonder about hard SPL. we always stress to the n00bs that it is very VERY VERY important, but then i noticed that the htc rom tool in the kaiser kitchen has a place to build an spl into the rom. can't we just put the spl from hard spl into the rom tool on all of our cooked roms and save everyone a step later? i wasn't sure who to ask and i don't have a kaiser without hard spl with which to test this so i am asking anyone who can answer sorry if i'm not seeing why this can't be done

I think you've forgotten something.
HardSPL is needed to be able to flash your device. So even if HardSPL is baked into a custom ROM, it wouldn't matter. HardSPL has to be installed first, no matter what. Not having HardSPL installed would prevent you from flashing a ROM.
Luckily installing HardSPL ins't really that hard.

meschle's Artemis ROM's have two batch files.
#1 for HardSPL
And
#2 for the CustomRRU.
So First time flashers can't really go wrong.
Ta
Dave

Yeah but hard SPL does not always work the same way. Some get white screen. I got 3 devieces. All 3 original TyTN II's. First one (my first deviece) flashed spl easly. But the other 2 deviece were getting white screen. Finaly I managed to Hard SPl it but in a other way.

xmoo said:
Yeah but hard SPL does not always work the same way. Some get white screen. I got 3 devieces. All 3 original TyTN II's. First one (my first deviece) flashed spl easly. But the other 2 deviece were getting white screen. Finaly I managed to Hard SPl it but in a other way.
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Good point, I forgot that.
Dave

SSPL,JUMP SPL dont work,pls help!!

Hi, I use to flash cooked roms and go back and forth with official ones together with my spl. Now that i wanted to flash hard spl again so i can use newly cooked roms i cant flash hard spl using sspl or jump spl. it doesnt show usb anymore as how it use to be..anybody pls help? is there a way to flash hard spl without the sspl or jump spl?
thanks guys.

skipperbien said:
is there a way to flash hard spl without the sspl or jump spl?
thanks guys.
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no .. atleast not that i know of. Secondly do you currently have hardspl?? also did you try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
it has options if you don't see usb on bottom.

thesire said:
no .. atleast not that i know of. Secondly do you currently have hardspl?? also did you try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
it has options if you don't see usb on bottom.
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i use to have hard spl sir,and went back to normal official spl,just like going back to official roms.never had a problem..all went smoothly. been running official wm6.1 htc wwe for 2 weeks now with the original spl (not hard spl). Now that i wanted to try again to hard spl and flash cooked roms safely i cant see the usb on the bottom when i do sspl or jump uspl. am i missing something sir??

check for my reply under the sticky at the top of the forum

hard spl flashing...
hello skipper, thesire, and all others,
i wanted to reiterate that you should really read the forum linked above because it has a special "force usb" version of the hard spl installation that mau very well help you.
also, we could all maybe help you a bit more if you could post your firmware/spl versions (the numbers listed at top left on bootloader, but you probably knew that already, lol) Just so we can get a better idea of your situation- the more info the better!
i do a lot of kaiser and athena rom building, I posted a few decent roms at the beginning of the year but i havent released one since... (workin on one now though) but i am not exactly the caliber of rom builder that some of these guys are ... anyways, my point is that i have been in A LOT of hairy situations like this, but persistance is the key, so if i can help in any way i will....

THEQUARTZGUY said:
hello thesire, and all others,
i wanted to reiterate that you should really read the forum linked above because it has a special "force usb" version of the hard spl installation that mau very well help you.
also, we could all maybe help you a bit more if you could post your firmware/spl versions (the numbers listed at top left on bootloader, but you probably knew that already, lol) Just so we can get a better idea of your situation- the more info the better!
i do a lot of kaiser and athena rom building, I posted a few decent roms at the beginning of the year but i havent released one since... (workin on one now though) but i am not exactly the caliber of rom builder that some of these guys are ... anyways, my point is that i have been in A LOT of hairy situations like this, but persistance is the key, so if i can help in any way i will....
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hey genius you are replying to the wrong guy. I DID NOT make the post. The guy who did i already suggested the solution you provided (even before you did) under jockyw's hardspl thread where he posted the same exact problem ....

i have managed to get in to the bootloader to flash the hard spl,using the 1.56 ver of sspl..however,neither of all the hard spl works after that.i cant flash any of the hard spl packages. im really suprise this is happening as i have done a lot of flashing back and forth for my tytnII. oh yah,my spl is 3.29 from the official HTC WWE wm6.1
thanks for all the help..

Few Questions After Reading the Wiki Tutorials

I have an AT&T Tilt and would like to flash the firmware to the HyperDragon III which can be found in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
Following the directions in the TILT Specific Wiki, I flashed the HardSPL which was version 1.57.502.2. This was the file listed in the thread for the TILT.
Checking out the other threads in this forum, it looks like there are now HardSPL version in the 3 range like 3.07 3.28 3.29.
I'm confused if the file listed on the TILT Wiki was correct or if I actually need a different HardSPL file.
My other question is about Radio. I have read all the information about making sure that the radio on my phone will work with the rom that I would like to install.
What I cant seem to find though is how to check what radio my phone is currently using ?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
I know that answers are probably in the forum somewhere I just can't seem to find the right search string to pull it up.

Use the HardSPL found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (this is a sticky on the ROM dev page).
Here is a guide for Radios: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 - basically flash a radio onto your device and test it out. Different radios will give you better/worse battery life, affect connectivity, GPS, and the like. Performance varies by region and what ROM you have installed.
Here is another link you may find useful: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Hope this helps.

So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?

QuantamPulse said:
So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?
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The 3.* versions of Hard Spl do the same as the 1.* versions - they allow you to flash cooked Roms. The 3.* have better compatability with WM6.1 than the 1.* versions, thats all.
Ta
Dave

Another question, I am trying to flash the new 3.56 HardSPL before installing the new Rom.
Do I need to use the SoftSPL even though I already have the 1.5x HardSPL installed or can I just run the update like normal.
Also, when trying to run the update like normal using the KaiserCustom RUU File, I run through the wizard and after getting my phone information it correctly shows that I currently have 1.5x, however it says that I will be updating to 1.00.000.0
Is this normal ? Or should it actually show that it is updating to 3.56 ?

yes thats normal one quick thing search for jockeys security unlocker that has saved many headaches

youtube solution
Hi, the youtube video below walks you through it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ-2lHi3T8&NR=1

Unlocking/CID/SPL

Okay, im really confused after reading all these threads
i used to have a kaiser (but it turnt out to be faulty) and managed to flash hardspl, flash new roms (had wizard, hermes and raphael and flashed all those too) so i'm not a newbie to flashing however im a tad confused about all the new hardspl (jwocky) etc and jumpspl? can someone just give a quick summary about what to do and why it has changed from the ordinary hardspl? as i am looking at buying another kaiser
thank you ever so much

HardSPL Info
kingsizeriz said:
Okay, im really confused after reading all these threads
i used to have a kaiser (but it turnt out to be faulty) and managed to flash hardspl, flash new roms (had wizard, hermes and raphael and flashed all those too) so i'm not a newbie to flashing however im a tad confused about all the new hardspl (jwocky) etc and jumpspl? can someone just give a quick summary about what to do and why it has changed from the ordinary hardspl? as i am looking at buying another kaiser
thank you ever so much
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I think most of the info, and donwload links that you're looking for are at the following link below. Hope that helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320

i did read that but still wasnt sure about it all, maybe im getting older (by 5 months haha).
what is jump spl used for? and why has it all changed from a few months ago!?

HardSPL
kingsizeriz said:
i did read that but still wasnt sure about it all, maybe im getting older (by 5 months haha).
what is jump spl used for? and why has it all changed from a few months ago!?
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I don't believe anything has changed in regards to installing a HardSPL to a phone. I've been following the same procedures for the last year or two. The Jump Spl files are used when changing / updating your HardSPL via ActiveSync (the only way I do it). Following the instructions on the thread below works like a charm, I've never had a problem. The instructions say HardSPL v3.29, but you can use any of the current HardSPL's just the same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

Fair enough, as im used to just hardspl'ing the device rather than jumpspl then hardspl.. will do it by the book though when i get my new one (if i manage to sell my poxy blackberry!!!)

All the SPL types are on the SPL Questions wiki page in detail, so I'll save myself repeating.
The reason for the 1.* and 3.* different SPL versions is for WM 6.0 and 6.1 respectivly.
See my Hard SPL sticky for another breif overview.
Dave

after new SPL is installed?

I have flashed Haykuro new spl and his 6.0 build.
I was lucky i had the old phone and the new radio
and now we know that we can not reflash old radios with out risking bricking our phones.
I did not know that the radio had any thing to do with the spl.
(may be memory size and location)
My questions about the spl are this.
Was there a over site made / bugs with the old/new spls and radios?
When new radios come out, will we be risking bricking our phones by flashing them with this new spl installed?
With out Haykuro spl will we be increacing the chance of bricking our phones if we install new radios?
will the new spl be needed for all of Haykuro's new builds?

I have a fresh out of the box phone and the spl worked

I would like to know too! however it's difficult to say, we'll have to wait and see what happen when HTC roll out new radio in the future.
maybe haykuro can shed some light on this...

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