Bad News - HTC Tornado

People i have bad news..
After flashing a new Rom (testing 1700 SYS) my Tornado doesnt restart. i have tested everything (battery, new rom, spl) but nothing. I think it is bricked.
I have really liked my tornado, but i dont have money for buyin a new one. so i think that this is my last rom for this community.
:-(
THX for everything and good luck with your tornado
bye blackdragon

Oh no!! Surely there must be *something* that can be done?? I thought the only sure way of killing the phone was to flash a bad SPL. Is that what you did? So let me get this straight.. there's no way for you to get in the bootloader mode? You said the phone didn't even turn on.. Wow. Now that's the definition of a brick! Its a mystery to me why software updating killed hardware/bootloading functions of the phone.

Anyone ever figure out how to install a new ROM from flash memory? I have a spare tornado I would give to Blackdragon but the USB port desoldered so it sould have to have to be ungraded from miniSD.

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Bad ROM update: is my Tornado dead?

Greetings... It's been only two days since I've bought my HTC Tornado (T-Mobile SDA). After unlocking it, I tried uploading different ROMs (i-mate SP5m, Cingular 2125, etc), just to find the one that suits me. Anyway, I found this T-Mobile SDA II ROM and without a second thought, I uploaded it to my phone. I didn't realize than this ROM was for the HTC Hurricane. After the "successful" upload, the phone went off! Now it does not boot at all, the battery does not seem to charge, I'm not even able to launch the three-colour bootloader screen (camera button + usb plug).
Can I upload a new ROM? Is there a way to recover my phone?
If the flashing stated it was successful then it should be. Try other fully charged battery.
Thank you for your quick answer. The battery was fully charged when I flashed the phone. Unfortunately, I found out that the "bad" ROM that I uploaded was for the HTC Hurricane phone!!! Is there anything I can do right now? Is it recoverable?
you *might* be able to recover with a SD card image, not sure
just connect your phone to the computer, turn it on, and immediately run a PROPER rom update for it, you might be able to get it back.
i did the same with a tornado rom on a SP3i (typhoon) and managed to get it back after a few tries
good luck
The problem is that I cannot turn my phone on. The phone seems completly dead. Just like having no battery installed (which btw is fully charged). I can't get to the bootloader (RGB) screen. Is it possible to use a SD card image? If I won't be able to update the rom, do you know if the HTC support can do it or should I throw my phone away?
dead is dead!
if the phone is under warranty , it should be no problem to get new one!
I didn't know that Hurricane can stop a Tornado ..well maybe it was just the end, and yes, if it still has warranty, use it.
Please observe Silence for 2 mins.
NiTroGenious said:
Thank you for your quick answer. The battery was fully charged when I flashed the phone. Unfortunately, I found out that the "bad" ROM that I uploaded was for the HTC Hurricane phone!!! Is there anything I can do right now? Is it recoverable?
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i got the same problem, still don't know how to recover from this problem, if u found some result, plz post an i'll post also what i found
NiTroGenious said:
Greetings... It's been only two days since I've bought my HTC Tornado (T-Mobile SDA). After unlocking it, I tried uploading different ROMs (i-mate SP5m, Cingular 2125, etc), just to find the one that suits me. Anyway, I found this T-Mobile SDA II ROM and without a second thought, I uploaded it to my phone. I didn't realize than this ROM was for the HTC Hurricane. After the "successful" upload, the phone went off! Now it does not boot at all, the battery does not seem to charge, I'm not even able to launch the three-colour bootloader screen (camera button + usb plug).
Can I upload a new ROM? Is there a way to recover my phone?
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i got the exactly same problem still don't know how to recover, if found plz help and post
this is exactly why i get the jitters everytime i flash my phone... i'd rather do a hard reset. i'll only flash ONLY if it comes to it, when it comes to it; and if there's a new rom worth it (like the wm6 rom the geniuses are making here... can't wait 'til the 'alpha' comes out ^_^)
ludatrick said:
i got the exactly same problem still don't know how to recover, if found plz help and post
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Well, there is no recovery!!! Just sale your dead device for spare parts, as I did!
NiTroGenious said:
Well, there is no recovery!!! Just sale your dead device for spare parts, as I did!
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don't take it as a joke, and if i send to HTC?
Who's joking?
If that is the case, you might need to change the corrupted ROM chip, and usually they will change the whole mainboard, which is very expensive, not worth to repair
They asked about 600€ for the repaid, so I bought a new one (380€) and sold the broken one for spare parts.
600 EUROS for repair ? In my country, that is 4200 bucks, enough to buy a brand new O2 XDA FLAME.
A new one for 380 EURO ? You can get HTC Hermes with that amount in my country,
The repair cost in my country will definitely be lower than 100€, why not send it to me via courier, and see how much would HTC repair it here
yeah, sell it for parts and save up for the htc advantage ^_^
~NiTroGenious
Look this: http://www.smartphone-developers.com/
I have spv, but processor is OMAP710. Is for somebody spv (Canary or Tanager) his phone with OMAP5910 processor???
I read here: http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/HTC_Tanager
OMAP5910 datasheet: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap5910.pdf
Tornado have a 10 pin jtag connector!!!
You can find it possibly the jtag points with this software, http://www.c3a.de/wiki/index.php/JTAG_Finder
and with this hardware: http://www.xilinx.com/support/programr/jtag_cable.pdf
You must find TRST, TDI, TCK, and TRST must pull up VDD with ~200R resistor.
Good luck!
Great info, Dibi. Thanks!!! Although I have sold my "brick" for parts, many unlucky guys will find this information useful to revive their phones.

Now trying to build a hybrid ROM (wm5 core, with WM6 features)

I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???
sound like Nncuong 2.11.11, in my G4.
am I right?
I hope it's Mamaich's new build (G3/G4 with flashdisk and 128mb ram) and that you share it soon.
dreamtheater39 said:
I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???
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2003se? lol
Midget_1990 said:
2003se? lol
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xD
yeah. sounds like an wm5 or something like that.
yep,I think it s WM5 3.3
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San
I have exactly same problem. I think the GSM radio is bust... I ordered new mother board after many attempts at flashing, repairing...
Will report when I get it,
--Summoner
dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
San
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Hi San,
1. Out of curiosity, what Radio version are you using with wm5?
2. Is it the same Radio version provided by the seller of your Universal brand?
3. If not, than can you flash the original Radio version version provided by the seller of your Universal brand and see the difference then?
KOR!
Hey!
I made no changes, continued running in 1.17 radio.....and hasnt crashed as yet The same config crashed last morning, and hasnt crashed since then....it looks very stable so far, no soft resets at all :-/
I hate wm5 for many many reasons, i'm thissss close to jumping back...
I miss the phone app of wm6, miss the keyboard shortcuts all over (messaging app mainly!) and quick searching feature. I'll try cooking a custom wm5 rom with wm6's phone and messaging app when i have some time, if that works, then that would be just perfect!
@KOR
Its 1.17 radio....looks like its working fine now! will wait a while longer and post in....looks like wm5 is no doubt much more stable when compared to wm6
San
Hey guys...
Giving it a go - merging wm6 features with a wm5 rom! Lets see how that goes, i hope i dont end up bricking my device
Cheers,
San
Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San
dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San
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Hi,
How old is your battery ???
(and have you tried " mtty " ?
greetings,
Wout
dreamtheater39 said:
Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San
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hi, for my case, i have based the last official xv6700 rom aku v3.3, it is wm5, and i downloaded Microsoft Device Emulator wm6. my idea is wm6 os, with official wm5 hardware driver. put wm6 os to replace wm5 os in the aku v3.3 rom.
i still have not to start move any files. because i don't know what is files need to moves.
regards.

Almost another which is best Wm6 rom thread..

I think this might have been covered before :lol:
Got a Wizard here that came with WM5 from o2 a few years back, its a work phone so doesnt get a massive amount of hammer but its slow, dead slow.
I just want something really small and quick, phones always on charge unless I'm out and about which isnt that much so perhaps oc'ing it might help?
I downloaded a WM6 rom by mfrazz (5.2.318(15342.4.0.01)) about a year ago and yes it looks nice and does more than the Wm5 that was on the phone to start with, but its irritatingly slow, I'm using the phone more than I was originally so it makes speed more of an issue.
I tried to flash a rom called "Wizard_19855_Clean_V1" but now I seem to have lost the phones ability to find a service.
The phones not bricked so I presume all is not lost but a quick shove in the right direction would be appreciated, the other option of course is to stick WM5 back on it if someone has a link to the latest (last?) o2 WM5 rom, then drop it down the stairs or something and get a new work phone perhaps :lol:
Nevermind, almost perfectly timed, 83% through flashing the phone with the 6r5 rom from Mfrazzz we've just had a power cut...
So, what do people recommend as a replacement to a bricked Wizard lol...
it is not dead. can be revived. well, if you want it to be.
get your power turned back on, then put it in bootloader after charging it completely and flash again.
I can get the bootloader RGB screen, have tried the solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963 but get the "You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image" error, just trying to sort that out now, phones on charge while I dig out the solution to that now, something to do with it being locked seems to be the problem, will see how far I get and then try again..
38% thru reflashing with the Update Utility File thing...
See if we can keep power in the building this time
Right, were back on WM5 thanks to the Wizard Love rom, when I try to stick mfrazzz's 6r5 on tho it gets to 99% and then fails, have tried it a few times now but with the same results..
try a release like amp(linkage) or a tnt thats known for speed. Ive been using amp's newer release for months on att's network, with strong service and considerable speed boosts over the older faria/mrfrazz roms i used
i have yet to need to oc this amp build but was a pretty avid overclocker of my older ones.
ps: im prolly going to cook/flash this rom when release 2 comes out(hopefully tonight) cleaner slate than amp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415157
pss: if you're not.. try flashing with no sd card too
Yeah not got the SD in there when flashing, I've tried a few different ROMs now and it looks like I missing something as it still appears to be on the Wizard Love WM5 rom even though I'm trying to get it up a WM6 rom (Brightrom/Manilla UI/XM6r5)..
Will try the one you've linked too and see how that goes..
Somethings not right here, I've gotta be doing something wrong, usign shell tool it tells me that the Wizard Love rom has the following.
Externsion ROM
OS
GSM
Splash Screen
HTC Logo
Yet the other rom's I've been trying only appear to be the OS, and even though they seem to be uploading to the phone properly when i reset it it still has the Wizard Love rom on it..

Problems with Kaiser after update.

Hey Fellows,
First of all i'm new here, and I'm thinking you all do a great job!
I recenltly unlocked my phone and testing with roms and stuff!
Only thing is I have 2 little problems with my phone.
1. my carcharger doesn't work anymore, the battery won't fill after the unlock, USB and the power adapter are working good!
2. Sometimes my phone makes suddenly no sound anymore. after a soft reset or turn off/turn on it will work for while (first was a half an hour, with this rom it is a day of 2)
Is there anyone have/had this problems too?
Hope someone can help me...
(ps Sorry for my bad english, i'm from Holland )
I've got ROMeOS_v2.3_FULL
HardSPL 3.29.Hard
Radio Version 1.58.25.17
Rom Date 06/28/08
3.29.707.3.m0nx WWE
SMAW said:
Hey Fellows,
First of all i'm new here, and I'm thinking you all do a great job!
I recenltly unlocked my phone and testing with roms and stuff!
Only thing is I have 2 little problems with my phone.
1. my carcharger doesn't work anymore, the battery won't fill after the unlock, USB and the power adapter are working good!
2. Sometimes my phone makes suddenly no sound anymore. after a soft reset or turn off/turn on it will work for while (first was a half an hour, with this rom it is a day of 2)
Is there anyone have/had this problems too?
Hope someone can help me...
(ps Sorry for my bad english, i'm from Holland )
I've got ROMeOS_v2.3_FULL
HardSPL 3.29.Hard
Radio Version 1.58.25.17
Rom Date 06/28/08
3.29.707.3.m0nx WWE
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Welcome to the wonderful world of flashing!
a) Car chargers -- this shouldn't really be related to the ROM, cuz usually they work (or don't) based on the current they can provide the hardware. Some chargers just don't produce enough juice to effectively charge the Kaiser. Try a name brand car charger, specifically approved for the Kaiser and you should be OK. Otherwise, you can try various chargers until you find one that works. They are relatively cheap (I have about 5 in my drawer from various manufacturers).
b) No sound -- usually, this is caused by installing an incompatible radio with the ROM. Look in the stickies for this forum and you should find a thread called 'The Ulitimate Radio Thread'. This will let you know what radios are available and which ones are compatible with which ROMS. BTW, there is no need to do a hard reset when you flash a new radio.
Have fun!
/drt
SMAW said:
Hey Fellows,
First of all i'm new here, and I'm thinking you all do a great job!
I recenltly unlocked my phone and testing with roms and stuff!
Only thing is I have 2 little problems with my phone.
1. my carcharger doesn't work anymore, the battery won't fill after the unlock, USB and the power adapter are working good!
2. Sometimes my phone makes suddenly no sound anymore. after a soft reset or turn off/turn on it will work for while (first was a half an hour, with this rom it is a day of 2)
Is there anyone have/had this problems too?
Hope someone can help me...
(ps Sorry for my bad english, i'm from Holland )
I've got ROMeOS_v2.3_FULL
HardSPL 3.29.Hard
Radio Version 1.58.25.17
Rom Date 06/28/08
3.29.707.3.m0nx WWE
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1- Did you try another car charger,maybe problem with car charger.
2-Change your radio,or flash another rom.
Here thread of your Rom,I do not know if still supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402026
Here The Ultimate Radio Thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Here shipped Roms:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Here Cooked ROMs :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Cooked_ROMs
Enjoy xda developers.
regards.
drtolson said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of flashing!
a) Car chargers -- this shouldn't really be related to the ROM, cuz usually they work (or don't) based on the current they can provide the hardware. Some chargers just don't produce enough juice to effectively charge the Kaiser. Try a name brand car charger, specifically approved for the Kaiser and you should be OK. Otherwise, you can try various chargers until you find one that works. They are relatively cheap (I have about 5 in my drawer from various manufacturers).
b) No sound -- usually, this is caused by installing an incompatible radio with the ROM. Look in the stickies for this forum and you should find a thread called 'The Ulitimate Radio Thread'. This will let you know what radios are available and which ones are compatible with which ROMS. BTW, there is no need to do a hard reset when you flash a new radio.
Have fun!
/drt
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Hey /drt,
Thank you for youre reply, the carcharger is a branded called "Brodit" and this a carholder/charger special for the Kaiser. It allways worked:S thats the strange thing about it. After the unlock suddenly it stopt working. (even in a other car it won't work)
If I let my Kaiser on in the Charger the orange led wil shine for +- 5 min. but if i put the phone off, it wil shine until i get my phone out but the battery isn't charged.
And the sound problem i will change Radio en let you know if it worked.
Thnkx for youre help!
korakesion said:
1- Did you try another car charger,maybe problem with car charger.
2-Change your radio,or flash another rom.
Here thread of your Rom,I do not know if still supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402026
Here The Ultimate Radio Thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Here shipped Roms:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Here Cooked ROMs :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Cooked_ROMs
Enjoy xda developers.
regards.
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Hey , thank you for youre links and info!!!
very kind of you!
Can you tell me the difference between Cooked Roms and Shipped? (i guess Shipped are from HTC and that kind of company's and cooked are self maded roms?)
Maybe you can also help me with what is what and where it is for...
Radio (Antenna... has to do with Battery/Signal strength etc.??)
SPL (Bootloader??)
CID ( I have no idea)
Rom (Image of the windows mobile?)
Am i right ?
Sorry for my bad knowledge, but i wanna learn
SMAW said:
Hey , thank you for youre links and info!!!
very kind of you!
Can you tell me the difference between Cooked Roms and Shipped? (i guess Shipped are from HTC and that kind of company's and cooked are self maded roms?)
Maybe you can also help me with what is what and where it is for...
Radio (Antenna... has to do with Battery/Signal strength etc.??)
SPL (Bootloader??)
CID ( I have no idea)
Rom (Image of the windows mobile?)
Am i right ?
Sorry for my bad knowledge, but i wanna learn
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If you want to learn, why not starting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Those pages they have better explaination then that I can give you.I suggest first read and do nothing before you understand.
korakesion said:
If you want to learn, why not starting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Those pages they have better explaination then that I can give you.I suggest first read and do nothing before you understand.
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Thank you i've got much too learn now!!
You guys are great!
before the flashing and unlocking i had no troubles maybe i will set back my orginal SPL and ROM i've seen a threat that is can
If needed you can PM me in Dutch
I figure your pretty smart and have been doin' some reading already. If needed you can PM me in Dutch with some questions.
We (XDA) wouldn't want you to flash back to stock ;-)
...Huh did I just post that??

Kaiser dead after flash

My friend gave me a HTC Kaiser. He tried to upgrade it (i do not kdow details), everything looked fine, the process turned to 100% and he was happy that it will end with success, but that not happened. Kaiser turned off and now is dead, totally dead - i can not get to bootloader, no LED flashes... But he assured me that everything was 100% working before this flash.
What I can do? I totally have no idea. Thank you
he probably flashed it with a rom that wasnt designed for your kaiser post what rom he tried to upgrade with on here and then maybe someone will be able to help.
If it wasnt a kaiser rom, then he has bricked it and all you can do is sell it for spares
I have sent him an email where I ask which ROM it was. What i already know, that it was "upgrade" (as he said, so maybe to 6.1??) from HTC.com.
I hope he will answer asap with details about ROM.
Now he answered, that it was only official upgrade to wm 6.1 from htc.com which is available to download
but was it an official htc device or a rebranded device i.e. o2 stellar? As i am sure that they wont like being flashed with a rom that is not specifically designed for them
It is Htc Kaiser, not a branded version...
I have no clue what's wrong... why it is not working...
Well i Would try getting another battery and see if that makes it spring into life. If not then maybe you should see if your friend is lying about what he actually flashed as i have neve heard of anybody bricking a htc phone with a stock rom.
when I try to recharge it, it goes a little warm (battery) after some time - as is normal on every device. But this doesn't mean anything.
I'll try another battery, as you've said and we'll see...
Or I will try to send it in service... I hope it will not be expensive... i have no idea about prices...
And I hope my friend is not lying...
Dragokazov said:
when I try to recharge it, it goes a little warm (battery) after some time - as is normal on every device. But this doesn't mean anything.
I'll try another battery, as you've said and we'll see...
Or I will try to send it in service... I hope it will not be expensive... i have no idea about prices...
And I hope my friend is not lying...
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I doubt it's the battery, and if your friend says he flashed an official htc rom and now bricked...sounds like he was flashing different roms without hard spl or a rom not designated for kaiser or both and trying to get some easy money from you; official roms don't brick. If you can't even get into bootloader to flash a fix; I'd suggest your friend is a **** for selling you a brick n get your money back
kaalgoosy said:
I doubt it's the battery, and if your friend says he flashed an official htc rom and now bricked...sounds like he was flashing different roms without hard spl or a rom not designated for kaiser or both and trying to get some easy money from you; official roms don't brick. If you can't even get into bootloader to flash a fix; I'd suggest your friend is a **** for selling you a brick n get your money back
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That's bad if he lied me... grr i am stupid that i bought it...
that's bad...
And what about JTAG? What is it and is it applicable to HTC Kaiser/TyTN II?
Thanks
does any one have an idea about JTAG for kaiser

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