Usability without a click wheel? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Since some weeks, I'm thinking about of buying the Touch Pro and couldn't find the information in this forum I was looking for. My question concerns the usability scrolling through large screen content without a click wheel like my touch cruise. In a local store I played a while with the Touch Pro and it was strange to navigate through the screen content with the arrow buttons. Is anybody here, who has changed from click wheel to a device without that wheel and can say something about the usability?
The other thing was, that I often pressed the other buttons while navigating.
The last thing (just a minor issue, not worth to open a new thread for it): Is it possible customize the today screen to show more than one plugin inclusive the TF3D? The TF3D looks nice, but its full screen, something that I dont want. On my Touch Cruise, I have the Home Screen Plugin (that thing with big clock), PocketPlus and HomeScreenPlusPlus.

On Touch Pro the area arround the arrow buttons is used for zooming in a couple of applications.
You can change through registry this function to make it scroll, like your Touch Cruise.
However, scrolling a large document never seems hard for me. I just use gestures...
As for the other question you have, when and if you buy TP search for Second Today. It adds a second Today, free of TF3D, where you can enable any plugin you want.

Thanks for the info, they should help me in making a decision. The only problem is the justification for buying a new ppc. My "old" touch cruise is just a half year old. *g*

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Disabling Touch FLO

Any1 know how to completely disable (i dont want it in memory too) Touch FLO?
Hey...
Try this:
\\\REGISTRY\HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\
EnableCube = 0 (original = 1)
It worked on my MDA Touch and i know it worked on some Orbit 2 too....
Tweaking instead of On/Off
The Polaris also has a number of other registry entries under TFLOSettings that, in addition to allowing you to turn Touch FLO on or off, also enable you to tweak its sensitivity. Does anyone know if these settings documented somewhere? I've done a search and found bits and pieces of information but not all the information in one place. Thanks.
WHY, oh why?
wonderiuy said:
Any1 know how to completely disable (i dont want it in memory too) Touch FLO?
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Question: Why would you want to disable TouchFLO? I personally think TFLO is the best invention since sliced bread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351082
GenghisKhent said:
The Polaris also has a number of other registry entries under TFLOSettings that, in addition to allowing you to turn Touch FLO on or off, also enable you to tweak its sensitivity. Does anyone know if these settings documented somewhere? I've done a search and found bits and pieces of information but not all the information in one place. Thanks.
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I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351082 under Tips & Tricks (post #6) from the Nike forum but it works on the Polaris. I changed the Touch Flo settings on both my Nike and Polaris from 15 to 50 and now it's much faster. Hope this helps, let me know.
Excluding Apps from TouchFlo
badaccent said:
Question: Why would you want to disable TouchFLO? I personally think TFLO is the best invention since sliced bread...
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I like TFLO. However, certain apps like PhatPad which I use don't behave well with it. So I would like to exclude certain apps from TFLO. I could do this with fTouchFlo by editing a config file. However, I don't know how to do this with TFLO and a search didn't find anything. Anyone help would be appreciated.
Disable TouchFLO - to do or not to do . . .
badaccent said:
Question: Why would you want to disable TouchFLO? I personally think TFLO is the best invention since sliced bread...
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Good for you. To each his own.
I DON'T like it.
I want to use stylus or buttons only. I don't give a damn about finger functions on the screen.
Let people do what they want. Help them if you are interested and you can, but no need to denigrate them.
Don't take this as a flame - no offense intended - I just recognize that whatever feature exists for any mechanical device, some will love it, some will be indifferent, some will hate it.
GenghisKhent said:
I like TFLO. However, certain apps like PhatPad which I use don't behave well with it. So I would like to exclude certain apps from TFLO. I could do this with fTouchFlo by editing a config file. However, I don't know how to do this with TFLO and a search didn't find anything. Anyone help would be appreciated.
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I am not sure that is possible. Your best best is to make the PhatPad developers aware of whatever issues you are having so a possible fix can be applied to future versions of the app.
I want also disable TouchFlo and replace it with the 4 cube version SCLPF
Hello, I have my polaris for a week now.
But I have the oppsite problem. My TFLO is disabled, but I don't know why!
I dont have my Polaris in landscape mode, so it should work.
I don't have any strange programms installed.
Can anyone help me with this?
TFLO has reg settings to disable for certain apps. Eg there's one for photo album there.
Is there anyway I can benefit from TouchFlo and some of the SPB softwares (like phone suite, Spb diary, mobile shell etc.) both?
I would like to see multiple appointments on my today screen and also the task list by categories which is very important.
Moreover, I have found that the sound stuff doesnt work properly on any of these roms available here unless i use mobile shell which really keeps phone silent only when i have a calender item that marks me busy. TouchFlo sound option keeps the phone silent eventhough someone's birthday is there on the calendar or even if my out of office event is there on calendar..
when i killed twice manilla2d.exe all that absolutly useless (for me and maybe some other users) stuff as panel in the bottom and large alarm clock which makes my device stupid disappeared. now there is clean screen with wallpaper. very nice, i like it but there is string "tap here to launch touchflo tm". is it possible to disable manilla2d.exe startup on every boot and this start link on the screen? (via system registry file?)
so when it is completely disabled it would be perfect to have some tiny alternative as clock in system tray or on the screen. and one more useful possible function is smth like custom desktop shortcuts.
do you now such software programs?
htc touch elf, wm 6.1
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HTC Home Vs O2 Today

Hi
I'm brand new here, and I'm hoping this question may have already been asked and answered but...
I have the new Orbit 2 and really much prefer the HTC Home to the o2 Today.
So I installed HTC Home and it works fine but...
I'm not able to control it in the same as this guy can with the TouchFlo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5olemDlIRI
I'd like to be able to control it in the EXACT same way; I have UltimateLaunch but it doesn't seem to change the whole screen in the way the video does, just the bit at the bottom.
Am I missing some software?
Many, many thanks
Oliver,.
just bumping my question...
I would be very interested in this too as a new owner of an orbit2
Alfie, can you give me any pointers to the HTC Home app please?
The answer to this thread is actually extremely simple. Remove ALL today plugins except for ultimate launcher then add your HTC plugin onto a tab in UL, then create more tabs with icons and such, set the tab gestures to open/perform the desired tasks and lastly set the height of the ultimate launch plugin to be equal to your entire screen size. After you play around for a bit you will understand. Ultimate launch does not use touchflo, it has its own "touchflo" monitor. I have been using a setup like this for a few days now and am quite happy with it. if you search here in the developer section you will see some threads there for "the better cube", "questions about tabbed today" and others. read those and you will be quite happy.
My O2 Orbit2 did not come with HTC Home, any clues as to where I can get this please?

TouchFlo 3D & Phone Alarm

I read a little and apparently it is not possible ,at the moment, to incorporate "Phone Alarm" into TouchFlo 3D.
Well this pisses me of because I spent over $1000.00 on that new device and I can't even configure it the way I want and use the apps or "Tools" I like and need the way I want it....
So the goal of this Thread is to see if there are others in the same situation and maybe team up to try to find someone that has the Resources, Knowledge and the Time to make this request possible...
I've been reading on this site for almost two years and became a member (not too active) close to a year now and can honestly say that there is some super brilliant minds in here, not all, but some, that could probably write a "Patch" or even Rewrite this TouchFlo3D SW that would allow it to be personalized and more user friendly.
There is four things that I would like to get in this new TF3D
1- Ability to have TF3D and PA (Phone Alarm) to run simultaneously (without the need of a 3rd party sw)
2- Have the "Top Bar" or "Bottom Bar" to display the actual PA "Profile"
3- Have a large PA "Scroller" field (somewhere)
4- Link the "little WM Alarm Clock" to PA's Alarm instead.
If there are some others in the same situation, please let it be known...
I am really please with using SecondToday making the left softkey open SecondToday from the Home Page of Touchflo 3D.I know you said no third party software but it is really nice to have the "best" of both worlds in using ToucFlo as it was designed and having a whole new Today screen for PhoneAlarm. With the power of our device there is absolutely no lag when switching between SecondToday today screen and Touchflo "today" screen.
this really works and I'm actually glad to have touchflo and phonealarmon different pages
ps I have a nice vga skin for PA and TodayAgenda on my secondtoday today screen
jcrompton said:
I am really please with using SecondToday making the left softkey open SecondToday from the Home Page of Touchflo 3D.I know you said no third party software but it is really nice to have the "best" of both worlds in using ToucFlo as it was designed and having a whole new Today screen for PhoneAlarm. With the power of our device there is absolutely no lag when switching between SecondToday today screen and Touchflo "today" screen.
this really works and I'm actually glad to have touchflo and phonealarmon different pages
ps I have a nice vga skin for PA and TodayAgenda on my secondtoday today screen
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What skin do you use for PhoneAlarm ?
I didn't find a nice one yet so I now use PhoneWeaver with SecondToday instead of PhoneAlarm but I want to use PhoneAlarm again.
I've used PhoneAlarm on my TytnII for almost a year and is way better than PhoneWeaver.

Tasks TouchFLO

Hi,
someone can hel me to see the active tasks in TODAY of TouchFLO?
Now I can see only Time, calendar and calls..
I try to set the tasks in START-SETTING-TODAY-ELEMENTS but nothing.
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
I have the same problem. But no solution
Tasks Touch LO
A simply way to it's to sobstitute calendar with tasks activity.
But how?
I try to use advance config tools secion TouchFLO 3D but no sets are here for my problem.
????
No other Today plugins/items can be used if TF3D is activated.
Until someone works out how to add task to TF3D itself (I assume by editing the XML bits of manilla) you will not be able to do this.
What would be really useful is if someone figured out how to add a Tasks tab to TF3D and also a Calendar tab too (I know there is one but I don't think it shows highlights on days with appointments etc).
People are working on these things so I tihnk there will be a solution down the road.
TF3D
So to solve the only way is to disable TF3D.
No solucion installing SPB Mobile shell o similar becouse with TF3D active it's impossible to add Tasks in Today Screen too.
Many thinks to solve
It's incredible you buy a terminal It's cost 800€, and you have to put a cab to fix double contact SIM and Cellular, You can't display the active tasks..., ....!!
But the ingeneers are tested this, or the most important think is to have a good weather tasks?
Bho!?
I have been searching for a Touchflo Tasks tab also with no luck. My best solution thus far as been to remap my PTT button to my tasks. This definitely isn't too bad to work with. I use NATFs ROM on my Fuze which already has remapping tools but you can use fuzemobility.com and search for PTT remap if you need.
why dont you try that tf3d disabler that lets you switch between tf3d and standard today screen plugins? simple click of a soft key and your back and forth between the two.
The Jack of Clubs said:
why dont you try that tf3d disabler that lets you switch between tf3d and standard today screen plugins? simple click of a soft key and your back and forth between the two.
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That would be your best bet IMO.
install secondToday, map that app to the PTT button or some other hard key, and you can easily have an alternate today screen for expanded agenda and tasks. By installing SecondToday, you can have all of your plug-ins right at hand... and get to them from anywhere in the device.
It's the best of both worlds. Really.
Does anyone know if the newer versions of Touch Flo 3D will allow other Today plug-ins ? Such as Tasks, etc?
I just started using MTP (Manilla Today Page) and it's incredible.
Just what I needed to put SPB Diary as it's own tab in TF3D.
I couldn't use TF3D for months till i got this working, and i gotta say, it's gorgeous.
what is Manila Today Page?
Any update with the Tasks Tab?
Now with the new HTC HD2 - I think that TouchFlo is finally a decent replacement for SPB Mobile Shell.
However, I still miss the Tasks window to complete the tabs list...

Need a 'touchscreen only rom' - is there one?

Is there a rom (or mabey it's just a phone skin or theme) that is just 100% touchscreen - so I will not miss my buttons?
Here's why...
This last weekend all the buttons on my 8925 stopped working - just the power and camera buttons work (no keyboard either)
Everything else on the phone fuctions, phone, gps, internet, just the darn buttons.
Since I couldn't answer the phone without pressing the green button, I had to find something fast - I flashed Josh's 6.5 21222(?) - works good, but it's a little bleeding edge for me.
So I don't have to spend 3 days flashing 20 roms - please let me know if you've come across any that would help.
Thanksk a million!
Will
Try garmins rom ("-g-") + SPB mobile shell + spb pocket plus
Try
a wm 6,5 rom that one from pdaviet
As usual, keep flashing until you find the right one!
Opal Dialer
With the opal dialer, you can have a slider to answer or reject calls. I've had a lot of luck with all of the 6.5's so far, and it's very finger friendly as well as finger functional. But you should be able to install the opal dialer to any rom.
Sorry about your buttons and keyboard though, the keyboard is my favorite part, I hate typing with an onscreen. If, by the way, you find a keyboard that works really well with fingers, please please let me know. Transcriber works, but it's not a keyboard.
At any rate, good luck!
Thanks!
drumboy03 -
As to onscreen keyboards. I use - and really like Resco Keyboard. It is THUMB Friendly and easy to use ( I think it is like an iphones keyboard - but who says they can't have a good idea once in a while).​
I think WM 6.5 seems to be the most finger friendly so far. I tried one of the HyperDragon III roms (12/25/08) and it works ok because it has...
Big start menu & Touchflo for easy navigation
I installed an iphone dialpad
I installed slide to unlock, slide to play, slide to view Dang - does it sound like I went for an iphone? - not intentional, but they do seen to have the better fingerfriedly interface.
I use Kinoma player - very finger friendly - for most media and core player (with diamond theme - big buttons) for the orb and news streams (it plays better than WM for me)
On a side note, I was getting 5-8 second gps locks from cold start with that setup! Better than my official GPS's.
Tonight or tomorrow I'll will try the opal dialer on a 6.5 rom - especially with the new internet exporer.
I do second this notion, a touch screen only rom would be nice.
I have seen many roms integrate touchFlo/Manilla, but I havent seen many integrate Winterface (iphone like interface), Point UI, or others.
I very much like TouchFlo, but variety would be good too.
Update - solace rom works!
Two days ago I loaded the Solace v. 3.x rom. It is set up for primarily touch screen use - big icons, big notificiations etc. Works great. Only issue is with the default phone skin - if I have to dial a new number I have to save it to contacts first. But I like other features of the skin so I'll live with that. I rarely call anyone new anyway so it really isn't an issue.
Thanks for your help!
One more update...
Turns out my buttons were not really broken- ae button plus allowed me to remap the buttons - right back to their old state - funny but it worked! Now I can run 'regular roms' again! Something must really be wrong with my tilt to have that problem!
And now that my outside buttons are mapped right, the keyboard works too! WOW - I was looking at replacing the tilt, instead it's only a $7 fix!

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