Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers
Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?
Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.
pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.
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TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here
Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount
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Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.
PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day
I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers
sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!
Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave
Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.
Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP
@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
:?:
Had a brain wave to use an existing nokia in car kit that require the phone to be mounted into a cradle.
To cut and shut this, isolate the required circuits and plug directly into the headset output on the O2.
Still using the phone for all functions but utilising the handsfree speaker and mic.
Anyone else done this?
Any feed back you might have?
Cheers
Mark
Hello!
When I plug my Touch Pro into an active Adapt carholder the sound output of my touch is forced to the charger (no sound output anymore on my mobile).
Is there any way around this? Any registry setting?
Or maybe remove some of the pins from the mini-usb connector on the charger?
Try getting HTC's official dongle which plugs into the USB port and gives you several connectors;
USB for charging
3.5mm headphone socket
2.5mm mini-headphone socket
USB for HTC's original supplied headphones
If you use this, you can plug in headphones at the same time as charging. I use it to route sound through to my car stereo so I can use the phone as an MP3 player and Sat-Nav.
If you don't use the headphone sockets, sound still comes out through the main speaker on the phone.
Hmm I have one of those, but the car charger I use is a slide-in holder, so there won't be much room for the dongle
Microphone unuseable when plugged into stereo
I use the usb dongle adaptor in my car to push sound through the stereo, however this disables the HTC Touch Pro microphone so although I can hear people calling in (through the car speakers) they cannot hear me.
I think it is because the phone thinks the headphones are plugged in and that I'd use the headphone microphone.
Does anyone have a tweak which would allow the phones microphone to remain in action when using the dongle?
Many thanks
rjbarrington said:
I use the usb dongle adaptor in my car to push sound through the stereo, however this disables the HTC Touch Pro microphone so although I can hear people calling in (through the car speakers) they cannot hear me.
I think it is because the phone thinks the headphones are plugged in and that I'd use the headphone microphone.
Does anyone have a tweak which would allow the phones microphone to remain in action when using the dongle?
Many thanks
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+1 to that... i would like to know a fix for that
I have a Brodit holder for my car (http://www.brodit.com/images/234542.pdf)
And i have the same problem, is ther any solution for this?
rjbarrington said:
I use the usb dongle adaptor in my car to push sound through the stereo, however this disables the HTC Touch Pro microphone so although I can hear people calling in (through the car speakers) they cannot hear me.
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I don't have that problem at all, my phone's microphone works fine while using the USB dongle with a 3.5mm jack plugged into it, connected to my car stereo.
Are you using HTC's official dongle, the one with the 3.5mm, 2.5mm USB power and USB headphone sockets?
It works fine for me!
Hey guys, I have my old Orbit 2 (Polaris) car mount in my car for use with my ne DHD (which is an absolute perfect, tight, unobtrusive fit btw!). I have a usb charging cable and phono-to-phono cable hooked up behind my dash to allow for charging and audio through my car stereo. Thing is the calls arent great for the other caller (I have to put on loudspeaker for the caller to hear me speak), possibly due to sensitivity of the DHD mic.
Anyway, I was wondering does anyone know where I might get a good long AUX + mic cable such as the one that comes with this car holder ... http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/windowseat-handsfree
I want to see if this will have a better mic sensitivity and pick up my voice better while driving.
fubofo said:
Hey guys, I have my old Orbit 2 (Polaris) car mount in my car for use with my ne DHD (which is an absolute perfect, tight, unobtrusive fit btw!). I have a usb charging cable and phono-to-phono cable hooked up behind my dash to allow for charging and audio through my car stereo. Thing is the calls arent great for the other caller (I have to put on loudspeaker for the caller to hear me speak), possibly due to sensitivity of the DHD mic.
Anyway, I was wondering does anyone know where I might get a good long AUX + mic cable such as the one that comes with this car holder ... http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/windowseat-handsfree
I want to see if this will have a better mic sensitivity and pick up my voice better while driving.
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You need something like this:
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/009-243.htm
The price on this one is a rip-off but that's basicaly what you need to get it running. Plug it in the phone, then plug the cable you already have installed in the headphones output and you need to buy a good quality microphone, plug it in the other female connector and then install it in your car so it can pick up your voice.
Or if you don't use your stock headphones and you are good with the soldering gun, you can buy two female 3.5mm stereo connectors, cut the headphones cable and make the y-cable yourself. Or even use the headphone's microphone and install just one female jack, connected to the headphones' cables. You can try if the headphones' mic will work - just plug them in, point the microphone to yourself where you intend to install it, start the engine and call someone.
I have been researching online about using car aux-in cable for making phone calls.
I heard that some phones work and some do not. In those cases, when it doesn't work, it means that the person in the phone cannot hear what you say, because by default the mic is muted when something is plugged in to the jack.
With HTC Sensation, does this happen? Is the phone mic muted when a headset/aux cable is plugged in to the phone? If yes, is there any workaround? What is the general solution to make phone calls via aux cable?
I heard that some people might use the griffin cable with mic, but since my aux port is located where the shifter is, I am not sure how the quality would be. Any idea?
Thanks
absolution8 said:
I have been researching online about using car aux-in cable for making phone calls.
I heard that some phones work and some do not. In those cases, when it doesn't work, it means that the person in the phone cannot hear what you say, because by default the mic is muted when something is plugged in to the jack.
With HTC Sensation, does this happen? Is the phone mic muted when a headset/aux cable is plugged in to the phone? If yes, is there any workaround? What is the general solution to make phone calls via aux cable?
I heard that some people might use the griffin cable with mic, but since my aux port is located where the shifter is, I am not sure how the quality would be. Any idea?
Thanks
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well, i hope this answers ur question
i have made calls/received calls via aux (when im listening to music in da car n get a phone call i dont uplug it, just answer)
i talk thru the mic normally and i hear the other person from tha car speakers.
so i guess the mic is not muted
From previous experience - though not with Sensation, as I'm all blue-tooth now, the following was true
If you plug in a normal 3.5mm TRS jack (stereo headphone / line-in / etc) the phone detects it as headphones and not headset, so the device realised there was no "in-line" mic, and used the phone's microphone itself.
A better option (which I did) was to fashion my own lead - using another HTC headset, but removing the two earphones, and soldering the cables to an in-line socket. This worked well, because I had a microphone clipped to me, with remote control for music (don't want to touch the phone when driving now, do we!!) and the stereo audio feed back to the car speakers. Cost me about £3 in total, including the second headset.
I would imagine this to be the same for the Sensation too, as all these sockets have various detection mechanisms, to make the right things happen, depending on what you connect.
Good luck, and safe driving!