I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
tcnk said:
I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
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Well, I have been saying that for ages, you are the first one who share this with me!
Yep, it is too slowwwwww with me too, but I found a little trick to avoid that!
In the Screen Mirror, go to "Refresh", set the "Predefined Settings" to "PIM, Word, Database". This will make Screen Mirror quite fast and acceptable.
If you set it to be "Photo/Presentation", then the imate will be too slowwwww, while if you set it to be "Animation" or "MPEG video", then the Screen Mirror will never work again!!! and there is no way to use it or make a presentation. I had to Hard-Reset my iamte to change the settings to "PIM, Word, Database"!!
Any way, I was able to make a prsentation on the setup of "PIM, Word, Database", but can not make the display in landscape!!, or, I can run the show in the normal portrait display, using "stretch" option in "layout" but it looks ugly!!
What did you do in this regard?
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
chris_khho said:
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
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The presentation software that comes with the backPack is fantastic. Do not confuse it with Screen Mirror which is the apllication that simply projects your entire PDA screen. Screen Mirror is certainly handy for training in PDA software applications but not used for powerpoint presentations.
One feature the BackPack presentation software has that the laptop does not is the ability to project only the presentation slides (via the lcd projector) but display both the speakers notes and the presentation slides on the screen of the PPC. I find this very handy as I use the speakers notes for questions and answers as part of my test for understanding slides.
Ed
I guess "Chris" and most users (including me) are looking for Powerpoint presentations, if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!! unless you need it to use CF Card!, then it might be useflul to have it, and as you "Ed" mentioned, to make a presentation about xda, to project the data, then yes, it is good to have as well.
Note that Windows 2003SE (2nd Edition) has good features that will help in presentations! (the Landscape View and 640X480 resolution)! I am waiting for it to update my imate and then try BackPack for presentation once again!
Sorry GoldenSands I don't understand
I think the backPack works great for powerpoint presentations, that's the main thing I use it for. I have the presentations saved either on an SD card or a CF if I have to take a lot of large files. But even from the SD or main memory the presentation software works a treat. The backpacks battery is smaller but it does prolong battery life and that is a bonus too. Without the BackPack I cannot use my XDA II for presentations.
What do you mean
if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!!
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Sorry not trying to be silly I just miss your point.
Ed
Dear Ed, may be I did not express my thoughts very well. When I did a presentation using the backpack, I had the following problems:
1- Imate is slow.
2- Presnetation is in portrate, not in landscape (as normal Power Point presentation).
3- Small size (small resolution) not in 640X480.
4- If I use Stretch Option (to get large projection), then quality is poor.
Now, taking above points into consideration, presentaion done through backpack is not powerful and I can not do any presentaion, although I need it badly, I do about 3 to 4 presentaions a week!
That's what I meant by buying it for presentaions (to do Powerpoint ones) will not help since I have to design the Powerpoint presentation in certain size to fit the backpack limitations.
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
GoldenSands said:
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
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OK, seems like you do things different than me.
Firstly I do not use ScreenMirror for presentations, I use ClearVue Presentation Suite v2.3.377 which came on the CD with my backpack.
Presentations work at "normal" speed with transition effects etc. And as I said earlier I do like ability to see the speakers notes on my XDA II but only project the slides to the LCD projector.
Next in answer to your questions above.
Q1. Yes (Using ClearVue)
Q2, Yes (Using ClearVue), 640 x 480 x 64k @ 85Hz or 800 x 600 x 64K @ 60Hz
Q3. As I said I do not use SpeedMirror for presentations. By the way, my Mirror application is called ScreenMirror v2.01, NOT SpeedMirror, are they different? Anyway, when I use ScreenMirror yes it can be slow but is OK for how to teach using PPC applications etc and it only operates in Portrait. I do not use it for power point slide shows.
Q4. When I use it, and that is not often, I usually have it on PIM, Word, Database. For example It has been OK on how to teach people to use SpriteBackupPremium at a PPC user group meeting. No need for landscape as it is an application to Mirror the PPC screen, that is it only projects the PPC exactly as it looks in on your hand unit. That is why it is good for teaching how to use the PPC applications.
Hope this helps.
Ed
ednap said:
OK, seems like you do things different than me.
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Dear Ed,
Yep, I guess I was totally not aware about making the presentation through the ClearVue PPT directly (without using the Screen Mirror)!
I went to "Setup" / "Preferences" in ClearVue, then was surprised about the option that allows me to use External Video Adaptor! That was the reason; I was using Screen Mirror (not Speed Mirror).
Thanks for your advice, that's the benefit of this forum, we learn from each other. However, I need a little advice from you, when I choose to use the "External Video Adaptor" in ClearVue, using VGA as an Output. Then try to open a presentation, an error message appears saying "Another Presentation viewer is running, please close the other viewer and try again". While there is nothing else is running. I have even re-installed the VGA Package!
Well, one time after several trials, I got different message: "The External display is in use by another application. Would you like to continue to use the external display?" whatever I chose, nothing appears in the screen.
Note that I am making all these tests using the Monitor, not the projector, do you think this make a different?
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Hope this helps.
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Yep, it helped a lot. Please let me know if you had experienced such problems with the imate and BackPack.
Thank you..
Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
I presume you tried performing a softreset with backpack and monitor connected, then before starting any other applications load clearvue, open your presentation file, then tap on the slideshow icon?
Not sure what else to suggest but please post your results.
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now .
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
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I was away for a short business trip. However, I was trying to do more tests and more research. I still get the same error, but what surprised me more today, even if I try to open any presentation using ClearVeu (selecting the option of using External VGA) while the BackPack is not attached; I still get the same error. I also connected the imate to my projector, it works OK with Screen Mirror, but never worked with the ClearVue. I did a lot of trials and restarts.
I also did a little research, and I found this useful link. But I guess I am alone getting this error!!
http://www.ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1916
Remaining one more test to do, I will use the imate of my brother-in-low, I am going to install the Screen Mirror Software along with ClearVue (of course) and will try to run a presentation, lets see what error we get! hope it works, if so, it means then my imate (or Windows) might have a problem since BackPack works OK.
By the way, what Rom version are you using, is it 1.72 or 1.66?
ednap said:
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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That's nice, Juabial is not far from where do I live. I live now in Dhahran (almost 100Km away from Jubail). I have not been in Empty quarter or even a lot of places, except major cities in Kingdom!!
I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
Ed
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I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
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Mmmm, you gave me a good hint again! I will test ClearVue with BackPack and try to make a presentation on 2 imates, one with 1.72 ROM and another one with 1.66 ROM. If it worked, then will see away to downgrade mine to 1.66!! I will try to do this test ASAP. Thanks a lot dear.
Bug in ClearVue
I'm having the same bug with ClearVue with the message "another presentation viewer is running, ...".
I visited the Westtek website and found that there's an updated release of the software. They want money for the update.
I think that the whole thing is offensive. Selling an untested application is offensive, asking for more money to fix it is offensive. I wish I could throw the product back in the face of the Dubai Duty Free employee.
BTW, no one should downgrade their ROM to get one crappy application to function.
Just wondered if you guys had seen this page, on O2 site for a ClearVue update for 1.72
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/VGA_Backpack.htm
I don't have a backpack, so I can't test it but it might solve your problems!
HTH
Fin
Bug in ClearVue and the Expansion Pack
I tested the update and it didn't work. I wrote to club i-mate support.
I'll keep you posted on their reply.
Thanks to all for the forum.
Dear "findus", thanks a lot for the link, but as "OZK" has mentioned, it did not work, hope some one has a solution!
Replies regarding the Presentation Viewer Bug
Club i-Mate:
Thank you for writing in, I personally tested the i-mate back pack with version 1.72 and did not come up with any error messages.
Westtek:
I have not been able to reproduce the problem. Please try the following and let me know at what step you get the error message.
1. Soft reset your device
2. Open ClearVue Presentation
3. Open a Presentation file
4. Run a Slide Show on your pocket PC (without configuring external video)
5. Exit the Slide Show and exit ClearVue Presentation.
6. Plug in the backpack and open ClearVue Presentation
7. Open a Presentation file
8. Configure the External Video Adapter in ClearVue Presentation (do not open the mirror software)
9. Run a slide show
I tried the steps and the problem is still there.
Now I'm out of ways to get help and being in the Middle East, there's no way I can get my money back (no one protects consumers here).
Update to Back Pack Driver
After having denied that they had a problem with the dirver, Club i-mate have posted an update:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/BackpackDriver.sa.CAB
They never bothered themseleves to reply to my emails, I found the update by chance.
If the above fix doesn't solve the back pack problem, try hard resetting. Hard reseting worked for me even without the updated driver.
Hi Guys,
Anyone know of a good application that gets rid of all the old garbage on your pocket PC (temp files, temp internet etc)? Also, do programmes exist that defrag a PPC like a normal Windows PC? (I appreciate the hardware and technology is different...) Freeware would be cool but would consider buying if it was really good.
Thanks
I'd recommend and personally use SK Tools; it's discussed in the WIKI HERE under 'Commercial' but I think it comes in some of the cooked ROMs' as well.
Best wishes
pocket mechanic is also good, will also defrag memory cards and clear registry entries.
Try CLEAR TEMP, it's FREE and a VERY SMALL FOOT PRINT: http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=ClearTemp&platform=ppc
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Thanks guys, I'll cook up a little sample and see how it tastes
Tried SKTools and was very impressed with it. Think I'll trial it until it expires but if it continues to shine, I'll be more than happy to pay the pittance it costs to register it!
Thanks for the info...
Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
I'm using ZTA4 SIP, it's mainly for Chinese input but also can be used for English typing.
Cheers,
Vibranze
thanks, any link for that?
xda-addict said:
Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
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Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
xda-addict said:
thanks, any link for that?
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I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
hotdog53 said:
Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
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Thanks for the post!
Unfortunatelly Resco has too small keys, almost like the default SIP, I can't use it
vibranze I'm gonna try it asap!
vibranze said:
I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
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Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
wow Guys, check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322441
now this is a keyboard!
xda-addict said:
Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
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Hi,
Attached is the screenshot taken from my device. Altough it's a bit small but if you use stylus it's far far better than the normal keyboard, and some more it's also support keypad typing
Cheers,
Vibranze
For some reason, I can't use my keyboard to input any data through My Mobiler, nor can I use the copy/paste feature. My keyboard only works on the home screen for dialling numbers!?
So basically, is there another way to connect to my Vox (6.1) using my PC?
Is there a VNC server for the phone?
Shame My Mobiler doesn't work. It's great to use, but keyboard input is my main concern.
A program called True connect works perfectly but it's ugly and costs £15!!
Thanks
I'm having the same issue as well on a HTC S620... Seems to not work on keyboard input
crushedlizard said:
For some reason, I can't use my keyboard to input any data through My Mobiler, nor can I use the copy/paste feature. My keyboard only works on the home screen for dialling numbers!?
So basically, is there another way to connect to my Vox (6.1) using my PC?
Is there a VNC server for the phone?
Shame My Mobiler doesn't work. It's great to use, but keyboard input is my main concern.
A program called True connect works perfectly but it's ugly and costs £15!!
Thanks
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there are several other apps like that, umm.. soti pocket controller, sparus software everywan, I think the everywan is free.
Guys, always make sure you thoroghly read the articles I post. I've dedicated a full roundup to this question some 1-2 weeks ago; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496296
A suggestion
Menneisyys said:
Guys, always make sure you thoroghly read the articles I post. I've dedicated a full roundup to this question some 1-2 weeks ago; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496296
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Could you add Celio Redfly Desktop Mobile Viewer Beta to your comparison list, please? I don't know if it is worthwhile but as you are a pro in this field and pride yourself in doing this sort of testing, if only for the sake of thoroughness ... it would satiate my curiosity.
Thanks,
Wovens
wovens said:
Could you add Celio Redfly Desktop Mobile Viewer Beta to your comparison list, please? I don't know if it is worthwhile but as you are a pro in this field and pride yourself in doing this sort of testing, if only for the sake of thoroughness ... it would satiate my curiosity.
Thanks,
Wovens
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OK, I will. I'll let you know when it's ready. (Some days at least.)
wovens said:
Could you add Celio Redfly Desktop Mobile Viewer Beta to your comparison list, please? I don't know if it is worthwhile but as you are a pro in this field and pride yourself in doing this sort of testing, if only for the sake of thoroughness ... it would satiate my curiosity.
Thanks,
Wovens
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Started testing it. So far, looks VERY cool.
I'm having a problem with the mute, I manually muted my phone (on the touch pad) and later I un-muted it with the mouse by clicking on the my mobiler display and now my phone is stuck with the speaker off, if I answer a call I can't hear anything (but they can hear me). Any suggestions on how to fix this? I really need help.
Who knows of a good AutoCAD DWG app for PocketPC? Yesterday I installed on an HTC HD2 the following program: pocket_pc_cad_viewer (http://www.cadsofttools.com/en/products/pocket_pc_cad_viewer.html)
It works fine, but the buttons on the screen are VERY small, and with finger control it's not easy.
Furthermore I found this oneowercad CE (http://www.graebert.com/index.php?option=com_cad&Itemid=52&id=Mobile&lang=en)
But it's very expensive.
Does anyone know a good alternative? Or a possibility to enlarge the buttons of the first app? That would also be welcome.
Thanks!
Moved as not software release.
ok, thanks. Sorry for my mistake.
I've also been looking for something like this, but I couldn't find other free alternatives.
did you tried the free "DWF Anywhere" from Gräbert?
Autodesk do not offer any mobile solution.
no, haven't tried that one. Does it also view DWG, and or Solidworks drawings?