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I posted this over at HoFo but figured a few may enjoy it here too...
I started playing with the CoolCamera software by Ateksoft and realized that it can act as a wireless webcam.
So....
I loaded it up on my T-Mobile Dash, configured it to connect to my home PC by forwarding port 2047 on my router to a spare PC. I installed the PC webcam software on that PC, but also installed Microsoft Windows Media Encoder v9.
I set the encoder to stream from a device, and selected Coolcamera from the device list (since I had installed the camera SW it added a driver for it) and then set it to "content is pulled" and opened another port on my firewall for the outgoing stream, and started the encoder.
So now anytime I want I can launch Cool Camera on my phone, and whatever the webcam sees, can also be watched by anybody with a PC by opening WM and pointing it to my home URL (which is through DynDNS so no IP required) "http://mycoolcamera.dyndns.org:1043" or if you don't use a DNS service "http://192.168.0.1:1043" or whatever your external router IP is.
Not sure what good it is, it's very slow over Edge, more like a slideshow than video, works a bit better over WiFi, but lacks audio, and isn't a very good picture either way.
It is however pretty cool to know I could prop up my phone anywhere and see what it's seeing from any PC, anywhere, anytime. It also shows you what you can do with these devices, some free software (the demo camera app will run for 25 secs. at a time) and a rainy Sunday afternoon.
-JMS
Yup, CoolCamera is GREAT. I've also published several articles on it; see for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...icle_on_ateksoft_coolcam&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 and http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=970&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
yeah. I second that... coolcamera is great. really worth it's price, way better then the builtin software
_Nomad_ said:
yeah. I second that... coolcamera is great. really worth it's price, way better then the builtin software
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Ok, what am I missing? The screen is less cluttered, but I could not find:
1) a help file or manual?
2) a way to quickly/easily toggle the flash on and off
3) anything really standout - what's great about it for you?
-the menu system is fairly non-intuitive - touch screen to bring it up, then use cursor keys to move/select????
-menu system hiccups - like blank lines you have to skip over when given the choice of post-picture options (save, discard, etc)
-very limited key mappings (e.g. no way I saw to map things like flash enable/disable)
-still susceptible to the "I changed from camera to video camera by accidentally touching the cursor keys" problem
Honestly, unless I can find some documentation and functionality, it looks like a nice freeware app, but no way it's worth $18 at this point.
I didn't try CoolCapture - which you don't seem to be able to avoid loading - or CoolWebWhatever - which is of mild interest (and maybe included if you purchase before Friday?)
Richard
What a wonderful software! Just tried out WebCamera Plus. Works great with my messenger..! Thanks for this thread OP.
btw, I have HTC Prophet (O2 XDA Neo)
rsolomon said:
-very limited key mappings (e.g. no way I saw to map things like flash enable/disable)
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Yup, it doesn't support flash in many models, as has also been pointed out in my review.
Menneisyys said:
Yup, it doesn't support flash in many models, as has also been pointed out in my review.
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Not my point, sorry - it DOES support the TyTN/Hermes flash, but the enable/disable switch is buried several levels deep in a menu. Anyone using a point and shoot camera would expect to find a simple one-button switch to enable/disable the flash - I expect the same here, and didn't find it.
Richard
rsolomon said:
Ok, what am I missing?
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FWIW, this wasn't intended sarcastically - I honestly figure if so many people love this and I don't, then I must be missing something....
Richard
rsolomon said:
Ok, what am I missing? The screen is less cluttered, but I could not find:
1) a help file or manual?
2) a way to quickly/easily toggle the flash on and off
3) anything really standout - what's great about it for you?
-the menu system is fairly non-intuitive - touch screen to bring it up, then use cursor keys to move/select????
-menu system hiccups - like blank lines you have to skip over when given the choice of post-picture options (save, discard, etc)
-very limited key mappings (e.g. no way I saw to map things like flash enable/disable)
-still susceptible to the "I changed from camera to video camera by accidentally touching the cursor keys" problem
Honestly, unless I can find some documentation and functionality, it looks like a nice freeware app, but no way it's worth $18 at this point.
I didn't try CoolCapture - which you don't seem to be able to avoid loading - or CoolWebWhatever - which is of mild interest (and maybe included if you purchase before Friday?)
Richard
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Well... My main reason would be the greater speed when using the camera. For me the htc camera app will need about 8 seconds from the time that I start the app to when I have an actual picture. Coolcamera cuts this down to about 2 seconds. And I love the fact that it automatically changes to night mode in low light conditions. The added quality settings is also something I find very useful and I overall find it to be a much more capable camera app then the htc one.
Hope that clarifies it a little
ugh.
how to connect my PC to CoolCamera?(my WM Device)
I can't get it to capture my phones screen as a webcam on my touch pro2, it says camera and camera+
ANTC's WM6 Crossbow Editions
OS 5.2318 (Build 153427.1.0)
All made by TheLoon's Kitchen props to him and whoever helped him since the name is always changing every update in the About.
Memory Stats will be up on final build of each version
PM me any bugs, Please no complaints this is my rom not yours if you don't like whats in it don't use it or *****.
Please have the IPL & SPL higher then 2.0
Windows Mobile 6- Crossbow Edition
Programs:
Office 2k7
Stock WM6 Games
MMS 4.2.8.1
Battery status
Grey Keyboard
Cool Cam
Kaiser Dialer
10b Kaiser Comm Manger
Start Clean
X button 1.5
Windows Live
Registry Hacks:
Temp IE Files to Card
Single Date line
Add time sync Tab to Phone Settings
Disable Error Reporting
Disable the security warning when installing non-certified application
Disable the SMS Sent notification
Wireless G
Enable clear type in Landscape mode
Enable file system cache and set to 4096
Increase file system filter cache 4096
Increase Ring Volume
Connect to Web Via ActiveSync
Show Edge network indicator instead of GPRS
Show slide-out keyboard caps dot icon next to SIP
SMS Alert
Today - Windows Live Search, Google
Themes I added was Areo, besides the default all other themes are gone..
I made the choice to have ONE version besides one or more, just I found a cool medium between vanilla and limited 3rd party apps. I left out apps like the audio manger to save space, theres WMP why have ANOTHER music player?
different layout? get a skin
I'm pretty happy with this rom, NO Xing out issues and a decent program free memory
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You should've left google maps out, regardless nice rom.
LOL, wheres your rom at?
where is the rom cuz i want to also get a clean rom without so much crap in it and i like yours
pep 1st post..i just added the link
hm, would be great if you could also remove Tetris, WinRar and Google Maps.
I am currently downloading it to test it.
bmueller77 said:
hm, would be great if you could also remove Tetris, WinRar and Google Maps.
I am currently downloading it to test it.
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if the response to this rom is good. ill make a even more clean rom for you.
Sounds great.
The ROM looks very good but i experienced, the "OK"-Button sometimes seems not to work (using the stylus). Can anyone confirm this issue?
Happens to me f.e. after aligning the screen and installing programs
bmueller77 said:
Sounds great.
The ROM looks very good but i experienced, the "OK"-Button sometimes seems not to work (using the stylus). Can anyone confirm this issue?
Happens to me f.e. after aligning the screen and installing programs
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you gotta double tap it from the touch flo scrolling which i despise but i couldn't find a good base rom to cook off of.
ANTC said:
you gotta double tap it from the touch flo scrolling which i despise but i couldn't find a good base rom to cook off of.
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Double tapping does not always seem to work either. It seems the only sure-fire way to navigate is to tap start menu, and then go into today screen or programs or settings. Task Manager has so far been the only way I have been able to close items.
Barring that...I am loving how bare this rom is! With it connected to pc, active sync running...Storage= 47.46MB, in use 2.78, Free 44.69...Program= 51.96MB, In use 27.39, Free 24.57
Initial loading time seems a bit slow, but otherwise going from program to program is a breeze.
So how can this "OK" button issue be fixed, as it seems to be the only real setback to this.
nice clean ROM...wonder how much mem left after this installed...gotta try this.....get back soom...thanks alot....like the clean rom
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Double tapping does not always seem to work either. It seems the only sure-fire way to navigate is to tap start menu, and then go into today screen or programs or settings. Task Manager has so far been the only way I have been able to close items.
Barring that...I am loving how bare this rom is! With it connected to pc, active sync running...Storage= 47.46MB, in use 2.78, Free 44.69...Program= 51.96MB, In use 27.39, Free 24.57
Initial loading time seems a bit slow, but otherwise going from program to program is a breeze.
So how can this "OK" button issue be fixed, as it seems to be the only real setback to this.
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maybe one of the senior members can help me out removing all the Touch Dllls in my kitchen, i used the one from double_004 cause i got TOO many errors on loons kitchen not sure why if its based off mattkr's kitchen since his was the first kitchen I used ever..
finally a vanilla rom! most of these roms are nice and stable but since i own a license to resco explorer i don't total commander and many of the other freeware apps. IMO resco is MUCH better than TC. i love google and WLS (rant) but i'm pissed @ ms right now for not adding my workplace to their db. i work for a new cvs/pharmacy store and we opened up back in february and a few months later a walgreens opened about 3 miles off from us and they are added and we aren't in yet. /rant
hi
Is it same version 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.7.0, ported by Double_ofour mentioned in his post ?
Whats the base rom of this? There are many different base rom version numbers, and even different ports of the same version number. Would be helpful to know what this was built off of as some of them have various issues.
miror rapidshare
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/59435293/WM6-V.rar
Size 53762 KB
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Double tapping does not always seem to work either. It seems the only sure-fire way to navigate is to tap start menu, and then go into today screen or programs or settings. Task Manager has so far been the only way I have been able to close items.
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Another way is using the SIP's "OK"-Button.
Well I tested the whole weekend and I love it.
Unfortunately there's no touchflo integrated. (I love that cube) but i think, I can add it somehow. Have to search for it.
bmueller77 said:
Another way is using the SIP's "OK"-Button.
Well I tested the whole weekend and I love it.
Unfortunately there's no touchflo integrated. (I love that cube) but i think, I can add it somehow. Have to search for it.
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I hate Touch Flo lol
Version is CE OS 5.2.1437
Just have to say that this is an excellent ROM and the one I've been looking for, the only program that I don't need it's Tetris (btw it's not a good port), installed yesterday and works excellent (for me) after a few tweaks. I noticed that after speeding up the processor, the touch "X" problem dissapear.
It will get ran out of memory if you open a lot of programs (WM6 stuff) I just fixed removing reg entry for Windows Live.
Excelent work!!
Keep working, be happy!!!
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Just have to say that this is an excellent ROM and the one I've been looking for, the only program that I don't need it's Tetris (btw it's not a good port), installed yesterday and works excellent (for me) after a few tweaks. I noticed that after speeding up the processor, the touch "X" problem dissapear.
It will get ran out of memory if you open a lot of programs (WM6 stuff) I just fixed removing reg entry for Windows Live.
Excelent work!!
Keep working, be happy!!!
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thanks, I added tetris well cause i like the game
its not Burger king you can't always have it your way but close to it..lol
HI all,
New to this forum.
I got an XDA Orbit 2 and I am trying to investigate its features. Can someone tell me how I can change the Windows mobile screen to make it more user friendly such as showing waether, missed calls etc.
I found some apps on this forum but I did not know whether I could install them on my mobile.
Possible I want apps which do not change the bootloader.
It already has touchflo installed.
Thx
with touuchflo installed you should have weather features installed.
however, if you would like to change touch flo design, you can install applications like HHC(htc home customizer) and probably Touch Settings.
You will find this apps using search feature of this forum
HI,
The today screen is like a normal windows mobile screen. So I was thinking of changing it to something more nice.
In order to open touchflo I need to slide my finger up, so basically the today screen does not show all the things in one place.
The most important thing is that anything that I install should be uninstalled easily so if it does not work I can uninstall it wo problems.
Thanks
plug-ins for Orbit 2
Hi Newera,
Not everyone will understand what you require because the touch cruise comes with the HTC home plug-in as standard and they don't realise that O2 have their own version of the 'today' screen.
I have an Orbit 2 from 02 and I have a nice working setup.
The version of the HTC Home plugin you want and which I know works with the Orbit2 is:
HTC.Kaiser.Home.Eng.0409.6Tab.Schen
Other versions of the plugin will not have a working brightness tab and the weather may not be able to download and other shortfalls but I can guarantee this one works on the Orbit 2. Just search the forums for this file and you should find a link to it.
Should you have problems finding it, send me a pm and I'll mail it to you.
Once you have the cab file you put it on your storage card and install it from there and soft reset your Xda. You can then set your tabs as you like them and adjust what appears on what remains of your today screen to your liking.
I also highly, highly recommend downloading slide to unlock:
S2U2-1.05-WM5
It's a fantastic programme and much better than the standard lock feature on the Orbit 2.
There's also a much better HTC calculator interface:
touch_calculator
Do a search and you should find them on here easily. Again, if you have problems, just let me know.
Lom
RLToday? Thats what I use. Requires some work but can produce some good results.
http://rotlaus-software.de/projects/rltoday
hey, i like touchflo,, i guess. probably cuz im a little too nervous and inexperienced to start seriously messing around with my phone, but i do hate how the calender on touchflo works. I cant see specific says without clicking on them, and the whole thing just seems a little elementary.
is there anything you can suggest that will work with touch flo, and required just a simply installation, because im not quite sure what most of the tech abbreviations mean, and how to manually configure settings.
So from your experience, what is the most intuitive program.
would it also be too much to ask to see some screenshots of the programs.
thanks a lot....consider it my christmas present
just a side note,
if you have a program on the phone, and then update the framework, must you reinstall the initial program...the reason i ask is , i have a program to prevent the screen from being responsive when i call came in, but after a few updates, ie. framework and advance config, the screen blocker program isnt working
any suggestion?
i believe there is already a post about this and to the best of my knowledge the answer to your second question is no
SBSH Touch Calendar looks awesome. I haven't tried it yet as it costs $25 but I'm thinking about buying it. Give it a shot and post up here!
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=23420
Also there is a 12-day trial.
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i believe there is already a post about this and to the best of my knowledge the answer to your second question is no
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hey, sorry for the repost, but ive been searching, and really havent been able to find what im looking for. It may just be that i dont know if the mentioned programs im looking for are compatible with the touch pro. Im not looking to mod my task bar, or anything concerning manilla files. Just a program that allows me to see into the future a little better. is this spd diary program compatible with touch pro and free?
thanks for putting up with me
Try thumbcal, i's great. Version 0,5 is free after that it gets a little better but it's not free anymore, 12
Have a look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
This solved my problem - if this is installed, you switch the screen off, then on again - all appointments as well as current date/time is displayed.
Ive used Thumbcal and only just installed the SBSH touch cal, have to admit looks and operates great. So much more features and ability to manage apts etc. First impressions i think its alot more comprehensive then Thumbcal, but just my opinion.
XIP: 21041
SYS: 21042
PocketIE: 21043
http://justkitchen.info/JustROMs/
Current Build: JustStable - Final
For more information about my ROMs, you can visit: http://thewingster.com/ivanmmj.aspx
This is to keep track of the bugs in the ROM. So far, I've squashed most of the bugs I've noticed but I just ported a whole new build, so there might be all new bugs to deal with.
Current Reported Bugs:
Themes are missing
Lack of Splash theme
Fix the double click to choose weather on HTCHome
Fixed Reported Bugs:
Change the "Browser Choice" to only the Wing keyboard shortcut and not the the Opera shortcut. Remove it and the Mortscipts from the Herald builds (as it is no longer needed without that Browser Choice
Removed proxy hack that was causing problems with HTCHome's weather.
Cabs won't delete now.
Fixed the VGA screens. Now they're QVGA again.
Suggestions:
Use older version of ArcSoft.
Update version of Jbed.
Remove ICS Control
Go back to the old task icons. Or at least change the Edge icon.
Add notepad with open with.
Add HTC Audio Manager
Yes Ivan your Back. Looking Forward to this rom.
Ivan if we ever get android running on our wings, you should be the one who makes JustEMPTY...lol a super duper clean rom made for running android
P.S. You should join the chatroom hotnsteamy once in a while.
I've thought about it... I can easily make a SUPER crippled ROM with nothing but just what you need to boot android and I can easily make it hook and autorun android.
Nice Rom Ivan
Hey Ivan -- downloaded and using your JustHacked14v3_-_LZX_Wing_Edition.7z and I love it! Very fast, Very Stable.
4/5/09
Yay nice to see something new from you =]] Cant wait =]]
Awesome! I would switch. Running Just2Clean right now, and love it (other than randomly losing 2mb of memory every hour) lolz.
Can't wait!
I'd probably use it. Much like you, I too have noticed that just about every newer ROM has some sort of quirk with it. Sometimes big, sometimes almost unnoticeable. Most are tolerable, but other times you'll run into a ROM where MMS doesn't work at all, or where threaded messaging doesn't work, or the State Menu has an intrusive white block in it, or where the volume control bugs out, or where the preinstalled version of Jbed is unstable, etcetera. It would be nice to have a ROM that is wholly bug free, but I would imagine that it would be hard since I assume that's a goal of just about all chefs.
I'm interested ivan, will be waiting! Thanks!
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I'd probably use it. Much like you, I too have noticed that just about every newer ROM has some sort of quirk with it. Sometimes big, sometimes almost unnoticeable. Most are tolerable, but other times you'll run into a ROM where MMS doesn't work at all, or where threaded messaging doesn't work, or the State Menu has an intrusive white block in it, or where the volume control bugs out, or where the preinstalled version of Jbed is unstable, etcetera. It would be nice to have a ROM that is wholly bug free, but I would imagine that it would be hard since I assume that's a goal of just about all chefs.
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Well, the good thing is that my ROMs are smaller and therefore, there is less stuff to go wrong, and I can focus all my attention on making the smaller set of features work properly. ^_^
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I've thought about it... I can easily make a SUPER crippled ROM with nothing but just what you need to boot android and I can easily make it hook and autorun android.
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yes this is in the near future...even though i have a G1 I would love to run android on my wing. Auto run android!!
But I also want to beta test JustStable so ivan I officially made myself your beta tester.
Very Interested
Have been running your other ROMs for a while would love to try out the JustStable
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There are a few bugs here and there that just bug me so I have decided to build a new ROM. Something more updated than my older ROMs but stable and with the apps that I use. If and when I finish it, I might release it here if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested. Here's the flexibility I've been looking for. Fairly minimal, clean ROM, but with optimization that could allow me to add/install and run beautifully the following:
(what I'd call my "Personal Configuration")
(a) TouchFlo 2D interface
(b) M2DC customizer for TouchFlo
or
(c) iFonz -- since there will be a completely new release in March, and possibly widgets, so it may become again my favorite navigation tool.
Also, for me must-haves, or I can add these and still get optimal performance:
(d) Large Windows Start Menu, as well as all other menus (this was done in Microlab's (PDAViet's) latest Herald ROM), and I shouted "finally! Hallelujah"
(e) WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything.
(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
(g) S2U2
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- (and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
*** Of all the annoyances of a Windows Mobile phone, from my first T-Mobile MDA, thru my current T-Mobile WING, it has been the terrible user experience of simply calling people, and answering the phone when people call me. Between the lack of detection for when phone is to ear to lock all functions and prevent accidental touch-screen activations); to the pathetically byzantine way of simply ADDING A CONTACT, and providing the MOST USED FIELDS *first*, like Name, work phone, home phone, mobile, without having to use a microscope or scroll way down to find a field; to the totally inconsistent methods of EDITING a contact depending on which screen you're on in the interface; the inexplicable confusion of an incoming caller "Save to Contacts" function that then makes you press "new contact" or "blank contact" whatever it is -- instead of "just frikkin add it as it came across with caller ID, and I can edit it later"... when you add all of this together, it's a stoneage experience of using a phone. If Microsft fixed nothing else, except the phone/contacts/history entire interface, they'd eat into iPhone sales.
(i) Something I would really really love: The ability to get WIndows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assume you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... That would make me 2nd most happy, after having "phone that just works".
(j) Single-tap WIFI ON- WIFI OFF "program link"-- i have to always add a cab file that does this
(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.
THINGS I WOULD PREFER BE REMOVED WITHIN ROM:
(a) Games. I can add them if I want
(b) Windows Media Player. Seems almost everyone uses HTC's Audio Manager..... (Me, I am liking much more the newer "Nitrogen" player) ... But I would much prefer Audio Manager as default, and WMP availa as a cab file if someone really wants it.
FURTHER THINGS I THINK OF AS REQUIRED, but others have different preferences:
(a) PCM keyboard, with decent selection of skins built in... I think one of the best ever is from "2many" or "2manyphones", but there are several that are large enough for finger-tapping.
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Everyone has their fav's, but I am answering with this detail because I have no idea right now which ROMS can best support and provide me this configuration that I deem, for me, to be Minimally Required. Right now I am using thanhy25's new herald 6.1 ROM touchflo 2D... which has most of what I want, and a bunch of stuff I don't want.
I hope this is useful, ivan. Can you tell me re: your CURRENT ROM LINEUP, is this more or less accurate as to the OBJECTIVES of your Roms?
(1) Just2Clean -- for people who have very particular needs or want to having nothing other than what they put on their phones
(2) Just For Me (Just Me?") -- not really a ROM, but a ROM Kitchen that helps people build onto a base ROM, their own catalog of favorite apps etc.
so, "Just Stable" would be WHAT, relative to the 2 above?
Thank you ---
Go go Ivan, eveyone would love to use your rom.
quicksite said:
(a) TouchFlo 2D interface
(b) M2DC customizer for TouchFlo
or
(c) iFonz -- since there will be a completely new release in March, and possibly widgets, so it may become again my favorite navigation tool.
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I don't particularly like M2D because of its bugs when relating to landscape support. iFonz, I never really used.
quicksite said:
(d) Large Windows Start Menu, as well as all other menus (this was done in Microlab's (PDAViet's) latest Herald ROM), and I shouted "finally! Hallelujah"
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Definitively, a must have.
quicksite said:
(e) WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything.
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Haven't used it, how's the memory usage on it? Looks pretty useful.
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(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
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MUST have, but replacing the built-in one isn't always an option, we will see.
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(g) S2U2
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How's the ram usage these days? S2U2 has always been a memory hungry app.
quicksite said:
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- (and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
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The dialer is the main reason why I decided to cook again, so I'm open to ideas. I had a modified dialer that looked great but had more bugs that I could count and it was driving me insane. I'm going to try subbro's iDialer and see how I like it.
quicksite said:
*** Of all the annoyances of a Windows Mobile phone, from my first T-Mobile MDA, thru my current T-Mobile WING, it has been the terrible user experience of simply calling people, and answering the phone when people call me. Between the lack of detection for when phone is to ear to lock all functions and prevent accidental touch-screen activations); to the pathetically byzantine way of simply ADDING A CONTACT, and providing the MOST USED FIELDS *first*, like Name, work phone, home phone, mobile, without having to use a microscope or scroll way down to find a field; to the totally inconsistent methods of EDITING a contact depending on which screen you're on in the interface; the inexplicable confusion of an incoming caller "Save to Contacts" function that then makes you press "new contact" or "blank contact" whatever it is -- instead of "just frikkin add it as it came across with caller ID, and I can edit it later"... when you add all of this together, it's a stoneage experience of using a phone. If Microsft fixed nothing else, except the phone/contacts/history entire interface, they'd eat into iPhone sales.
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Unfortunately, this is all built-in code, so unless you know of a contact app replaacement that can do this well, I would to write an app from scratch to do so.
quicksite said:
(i) Something I would really really love: The ability to get WIndows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assume you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... That would make me 2nd most happy, after having "phone that just works".
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Good idea, I'll have to do some research on this one.
quicksite said:
(j) Single-tap WIFI ON- WIFI OFF "program link"-- i have to always add a cab file that does this
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You mean like a shortcut in the program menu instead of the comm manager? Or do you mean instead of a double click the first time to initiate the driver? (Which I can fix at the cost of some RAM.)
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(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.
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That's one of my unreleased ROM's features. When you press the "IE" shortcut on the keyboard of the Wing and the HTC Atlas, it opens up OperaMini. The only thing is that it doesn't take in links to sites, it errors out on them. This might still be doable.
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THINGS I WOULD PREFER BE REMOVED WITHIN ROM:
(a) Games. I can add them if I want
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All my ROMs lack games built in. They're a waste of space for a lot of people.
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(b) Windows Media Player. Seems almost everyone uses HTC's Audio Manager..... (Me, I am liking much more the newer "Nitrogen" player) ... But I would much prefer Audio Manager as default, and WMP availa as a cab file if someone really wants it.
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WMP is required for the ring tones to work properly. If I can figure out where the dependencies come from, this might be doable.
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(a) PCM keyboard, with decent selection of skins built in... I think one of the best ever is from "2many" or "2manyphones", but there are several that are large enough for finger-tapping.
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Unfortunately, the author of all the PCM software does not like cooks using his software in ROMs that are released to the wild...
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Everyone has their fav's, but I am answering with this detail because I have no idea right now which ROMS can best support and provide me this configuration that I deem, for me, to be Minimally Required. Right now I am using thanhy25's new herald 6.1 ROM touchflo 2D... which has most of what I want, and a bunch of stuff I don't want.
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It was good info, though.
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I hope this is useful, ivan. Can you tell me re: your CURRENT ROM LINEUP, is this more or less accurate as to the OBJECTIVES of your Roms?
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Sure thing.
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(1) Just2Clean -- for people who have very particular needs or want to having nothing other than what they put on their phones
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Stripped down to only install what you want and need.
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(2) Just For Me (Just Me?") -- not really a ROM, but a ROM Kitchen that helps people build onto a base ROM, their own catalog of favorite apps etc.
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Even more stripped down but instead of providing various versions, I provided a whole kitchen for people to make their own versions.
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so, "Just Stable" would be WHAT, relative to the 2 above?
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Just as the name says, stability is the key. I want something usable, stable, lacking of bugs and that I won't be annoyed with. One major example is the contact issue you mentioned, I also find it annoying.
Wow - something I rarely see at XDA! Thorough replies; thank you. Since this is just a wish list, there's one other annoyance: I'd like to have a shortcut link to "Remove Programs", so I don't have to dig into Settings > System > to get it. And a cherry on top would be a layperson's access to any setting control to make it a shortcut link, like Backlight for example. If I'm not mistaken, this capability is partially there in Quick Menu -- another app I love, but it wouldn't make the cut for a minimal ROM.
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I don't particularly like M2D because of its bugs when relating to landscape support. iFonz, I never really used.
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Understood. Besides, people are all picky about their fav app launcher.
WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything. Haven't used it, how's the memory usage on it? Looks pretty useful.
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I am not technical enough to know. I can only go by how efficient it is to have 5 icons to the right of the Windows Start icon, indicating 5 apps open, and maybe they are Total Commander, OperaMini, iContact, Notes, and my music player -- and to switch apps i tap on the icon; instant change. If I tap and hold, a context menu comes up (like a normal right-click), and i can close that app, or set prefs for that app -- such as "always hide this app" etc. It's also got a slidable adjuster of the total width of the open-apps icons showing, with a "continued" right-arrow appearing when you move to the left cutting off any icon (very Windows task-bar-like). Sorry I don't have a tangible answer, but I'll shoot a video clip of my using it so you can see its responsiveness.
(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
MUST have, but replacing the built-in one isn't always an option, we will see.
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Yeah, that was just another cherry on top dream. I just remove it from my start-menu shortcuts so i don't have to even see it.
(g) S2U2 . How's the ram usage these days? S2U2 has always been a memory hungry app.
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Here's an indicator, PDAviet (Microlab's) latest ROM chose S2U2 v. 1_18 which you can see on A_C's change log it's pretty far down the list of recent versions.
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- The dialer is the main reason why I decided to cook again, so I'm open to ideas. I had a modified dialer that looked great but had more bugs that I could count and it was driving me insane. I'm going to try supbro's iDialer and see how I like it.
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Worth noting is that Supbro's got some pretty tight integration now with iContact + iDialer, they both call each other, and he's also added now "Green Button", which, like hard-button remapping apps, assigns iDialer to the Green Call button, which makes for some pretty seamlessintegration. And his iDialer works perfectly with the other strain of iContact, Burt's Edition. What I've had to do, as my best workaround solution for the Windows built in dialer, to handle all the in-call functions, is use this: Snachez's "iPhydle" skin atop Paul De Groot's Minimal Dialer -- which seems to me to be a replacement dialer. But when I asked Supbro a month or so ago, he said "Paul's Minimal Dialer is not a true replacement dialer, but rather just a skin. That's not the read Paul's post, but again, I'm not a coder so .... ??
(and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
Unfortunately, this is all built-in code, so unless you know of a contact app replacement that can do this well, I would (have) to write an app from scratch to do so.
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I've never seen any replacement app that handles "add new contact" and all those pieces. Why hasn't HTC written one? They're slowly but surely replacing usage of many Windows Mobile apps, but that's beyond my pay-grade to understand.
the ability to get Windows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assumes you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... Good idea, I'll have to do some research on this one.
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Does HTC's "Album" solve that in their implementation? A_C has been steadily improving "S2V" (slide to view), but it doesn't alleviate that Windows problem, and i'm guessing it's too bloated for your lean standards. ... A related note: in "Microlab's" (PDAviet's) latest ROM, he's added a control setting that lets users assign which folder S2U2 should go to for Wallpapers, so he's somehow broken apart one of the setting controls A_C uses within both S2U2 and S2V... and the photo folder selector functionality is some subset of A_C's S2V app, but as far as I know, Microlab has not cooked in the whole S2V app. All of which is just my speculations that those 2 people would be good sources for code solution ideas. I don't know how freely people share code, but i know that's a core value of XDA, and I know for fact that A_C and Supbro collaborate and share solutions. Not sure this is helpful, but just trying to compile all I know of "what's out there right now".
You mean like a shortcut in the program menu instead of the comm manager? Or do you mean instead of a double click the first time to initiate the driver? (Which I can fix at the cost of some RAM.)
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Either in shortcut menu, or a dedicated icon/link for those who use app launchers (I would use it in TouchFLO or ifonz). There's a cab called AE Wifi Trigger which accomplishes this perfectly. It switches on WIFI, (some people complain "but it notifies you, I don't like notifications"...) and then promptly pops up the wireless networks found in range. Tap it again and it turns wifi off. Honestly, if I were information-designing Windows Mobile, I'd have ditched the Comm Manager long time ago, replacing it with the single function applets that just do what you want without drilling down, then having to select, then having to open settings. For joining a wifi network, that's 4-actions to accomplish what this particular trigger does in 1-tap. (Reminder to self: please refrain from bashing MS)
(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.That's one of my unreleased ROM's features. When you press the "IE" shortcut on the keyboard of the Wing and the HTC Atlas, it opens up OperaMini.
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That sounds great!
The only thing is that it doesn't take in links to sites, it errors out on them. This might still be doable.
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I'm not clear what you mean. Are you referring to OperaMini's inability to launch a "Favorite" at the Windows OS level, and have it go to that site?
WMP is required for the ring tones to work properly. If I can figure out where the dependencies come from, this might be doable.
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I see. I didn't think of that
Unfortunately, the author of all the PCM software does not like cooks using his software in ROMs that are released to the wild...
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I respect that. installing as a cab works fine anyway, for me. ... But speaking of PCM, I forgot who his "competitor" is for finger-controllable calendar -- the people who make "ThumbCal"... That app now has a fee, right? I do like it, and *some* kind of calendar is essential. Too bad once again MS hasn't done anything to improve theirs in years, if ever.
I so look forward to what you cook up. Thanks for being patient with verbose style. Most of the Herald people tell me to get to the point.
oh, one last thing: Not sure you consider Google Maps essential or not. But about a month ago Google released "My Maps" for their mobile app, replicating most functions of the desktop web version -- but only for Android so far. But this is cool -- The Developer Project Lead for the whole Google Maps line lives in my neighborhood, and she was telling me she was hopeful that people would use the API to port versions of the Android version of "My Maps" to Windows Mobile. I told her about XDA-dev and she was thrilled with the prospect of someone at XDA dev porting it to Windows Mobile. And as a footnote to a footnote, the designer of the G1 phone also is in my neighborhood; he was responsible for the Android user interface as well as aspects of the T-Mobile phone design as well. Just in case anyone reading here is part of the team at XDA seeking to port Android to Wing.
Can't wait!
Sounds great! I will try it! Shure!
P.S.: of course I would like to see a kitchen of this rom Just a Joke!
Status Update:
So far, I've got the following running FAST and Stable:
XIP: 20924
SYS: 19588.1.1.2 (I'm having some problems porting the 20924 SYS.)
Once I get the SYS properly ported and the OS 100% stable, I'll start working on the little details. So far, I did replace the dialer for something more stable. The new dialer has a easier "add to contants" on it, too.
That's excellent news! I was wondering where you'd gone, then it hit me. "He went to work on it". that's great re an improved way to "add new contact" from a phone call interface.
Good luck on the project!