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I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy
Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.
Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy
One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?
Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy
Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.
I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/
Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer
sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!
can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks
I cant count the number of times I have read the new release about HTC supporting BB Connect on the S710...but i just got mine and no sign...
Tried the BB Connect that works on my Dash but not luck...PIN Pending.
RD
Whenever I hit "register now" it just goes to the homescreen really wanna get this working....
Same problem
Ciao.
I'm from Italy and I have same problem. No way to get BB Connect work on my HTC S710.
I can't find the PIN to activate it. Infact when I install the BB the phone try to connect but don'f find the PIN and stop the connection (as you told back in home page!!).
I tried to contact HTC customer service and they told me that HTC and RIM maybe will support BB Connect just with Carriers (i.e. TIM or VODAFONE in ITaly, ORANGE in France and UK, etc..). But why a lot of peaple can use BB connect with the carriers they wont and me no???? As you can see, also DOPOD ASIA support BBconnect in HTC devices!! So let's try together to find a way !!!
I really believe in this.
Thank you to everybody.
Davide.
I am guessing we are all using the BB Connect client from the s620... I think we need a new client for the S710
We will likely have to wait, just like last time
until it gets released by Dopod. They seem to get the BB Connect clients out first, and I have never seen a BB Connect client that wasn't model specific, so it will have to be a Vox variant to work on the Vox most likely. Start sniffing and asking around on Dopod boards, at least then they will know we are looking....
There will be a BBC client for the vox. This will be bbc v4, watch this space (or the ftp )
doedoe said:
There will be a BBC client for the vox. This will be bbc v4, watch this space (or the ftp )
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Do you have it?
I am dying for BB Connect too, if it's 4.0 that would be awesome!!! I will ditch my dash when that comes out...
Not yet but I will do soon.
There is a full WM6 version waiting in the wings, lets hope it appears soon.
Here you are
It works great in HTC S710 spanish. Good luck.
http://www.hutch.in/blackberryconnect/bbc4[1].0.0.76.zip
You are my hero! I am trying it out on my dash right now on WM5, then will try wm6...though I may end up getting a vox this week now I can have bb connect!!!!
nmanero said:
It works great in HTC S710 spanish. Good luck.
http://www.hutch.in/blackberryconnect/bbc4[1].0.0.76.zip
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well, maybe you´ll try cortado
it works with active sync fantastic on my s710
www.cortado.com (or .de; .co.uk and so on...)
sting0r said:
You are my hero! I am trying it out on my dash right now on WM5, then will try wm6...though I may end up getting a vox this week now I can have bb connect!!!!
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I have downloaded, the bb connect and notice that it is meant for the windows 5 platform. Although it works on the dash, i dunno whether it will work on the vox as the vox is wm 6. This is my observation from having the hermes where if the hermes is flasg to wm6 the BB connect 4 meant for WM5 doesnot work unless there is some ehex editing on the device to make it look like WM6. Any useH anybody git it to connect on the vox yet.
i am also about to rush out and buy the Vox and just want to confirm this detail before doing so, any body tried it yet?
Just got the stuff,its a dopod C500 and i can safely say that it is working and receiving email. Thank you and apology for doubting the earlier post. All i can say is yippee
I read the XML in the cab, and it says this will work for all WM 5.x versions
This applies to Windows Mobile 5 and Windows Mobile 6 (internal version is 5.2). So, I know this works on my Vox(Win Mobile 6), as I am downloading emails just fine with it now, but does it work on the Dash/S620, etc as well? If it does, what versions does it work on? Just Windows Mobile 6, or also Windows Mobile 5? It should work on both. Now the next question, does it work on other devices like the Samsung BlackJack(Windows Mobile 5)? This would make this the closest we have seen to a universal Blackberry Connect client! One can hope, right?
work fine also in italy by tim
is the best many thanks tp DAVIDE......
It doesn't work on Samsung i600. There is an error when installing.
I may soond noob for this one ... but
WTF is BBConnect ???
blackberry connect
What's the point of using a blackberry app on a HTC smartphone???
KevinSephiroth said:
What's the point of using a blackberry app on a HTC smartphone???
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I use it on HTC on S710 whith French Orange operator
it work fine
Guys and gals, sorry for not re-editing the entire article so that I can incorporate the update into the main body of the article. Hope it’ll be still be understandable.
UPDATE (10/02/2007): there is an even better, easier-to-install and, what is more, even MS Smartphone (Windows Mobile Standard)-compatible hack. Just download the CAB file linked from THIS post (I’ve also mirrored it HERE, just to be on the safe side, should you not want to register at XDA-Dev to access the download), install it (by simply clicking it on your handheld), power down your device (if it’s a Pocket PC – in order to make sure the Registry changes are all flushed) and restart it.
This hack will add full BT DUN to both platforms. I’ve thoroughly tested it on both my WM6 HTC Universal (a Pocket PC) and WM6 HTC s710 / Vox (a Smartphone) and found it excellent. Note that the traditional, BT PAN-based Internet Sharing will still work alongside with the added BT DUN (tested on both devices).
Note that it has a minor annoyance. After you terminate the connection, you will still be unable to access the Net on the Pocket PC or Smartphone that you used as a modem (also see THIS and THIS for similar bug reports). The solution to this is pretty simple: instead of (lengthy and/or awkward) soft resetting your handheld, just make sure you tap either the data connection icon in Comm Manager (this seem to be sufficient with Smartphones) or, as with, it seems, with Pocket PC’s (like the Universal), just dis- and, then, re-enable the phone connection itself (or, alternatively, en-, and, then, re-disable Flight mode). This all makes this small bug easy to live with.
Finally, Smartphone users: remember NOT to long-press the Red dial button to lock your device – it’ll also terminate the call. Instead, use the standard lock menu accessible via the Power button.
There is also a tutorial on making USB connection work with Modem Link HERE, should it be messed up. Also, the entire thread might be worth giving a read, should you still have problems.
Thanks for FX Belloir for pointing out this hack!
(end of update, the now-outdated original article follows. This means you’ll want to prefer the new hack explained above, NOT the old one I still keep for historical purposes only. It's only the first sections, which explain what this is all about, are worth reading for casual users.)
Anyone having read my article New dial-up networking model of the WM5 AKU3 – a must if you use your WM phones as modems knows WM5 AKU3 (and, of course, WM6) has dramatically changed the way dial-up networking is handled – not necessarily in the good direction. (Please DO read the article if you don’t have a clue what I’m referring to and you have ever wanted to use your Windows Mobile handheld as a cellular modem!)
Microsoft, so far, haven’t really done anything to the problem, except for publishing an article (also discussed for example HERE). Therefore, hackers needed to concentrate their forces on solving the problem. After the first failed attempts (for example mine, as is explained in the first-linked article), at last, some excellent XDA-Developers folks have managed to enable this feature with a comparatively easy-to-do hack. I’ve developed the hack further, making it compatible with several handheld models and ROM versions (the previous version available at XDA-Developers doesn’t support the Universal, Wizard and, probably, several other models because it doesn’t do any forced Registry import – it might only be compatible with the P3600.)
The hack makes it possible to use most WM5 AKU3 / WM6 devices in the traditional (pre-WM5 AKU3) DUN dial-up method, in addition to the new, in WM5 AKU3 introduced Internet Sharing.
This means you can use BOTH technologies and can have the advantages of BOTH approaches. With the “traditional” DUN dial-up, you still have the freedom of NOT having to manually start / reconnect Internet Sharing AND the ability to use clients not supporting the BT Personal Area Network (PAN) profile required by the new Internet Sharing. And, as Internet Sharing is still supported, you can still have a real internet sharing approach, making it possible to use the Internet on both the Windows Mobile device acting as a modem and the client that connects to it (and can still have the other goodies Internet Sharing also offers: for example, the accessibility of the phone even with an ongoing Internet session.)
Again, it’s almost impossible to emphasize how important, how revolutional this hack is! If you’ve EVER tried to use your WM5 AKU3 / WM6 Windows Mobile phone as a modem you know Internet Sharing can be a REAL pain in the back, particularly if the client you’d like to use it from doesn’t support BT PAN.
Installation
Import THIS registry import file (via, say, the brand new, EXCELLENT desktop-side Registry editor of SOTI’s Pocket Controller 6) and copy the contents of THIS file to the \Windows directory of your Windows Mobile device. Soft reset your device and voliá: after this, clients discovering the Bluetooth services your device provides will also see it offering the DUN service (in addition to the PAN one) as can also be seen in HERE.
After this, everything will work just great – as in the pre-AKU3 days. Follow for example THIS tutorial on using DUN modems if you don’t know how it’s done.
Problems
It’s incompatible with some HTC Wizard ROM versions, namely, the official AKU 3.3 T-Mobile ROM – see THIS. It, however, has no problems with mfrazzz's XDA Mobile 6 Release 2a Full at all.
It seems it’s incompatible with WM6 MS Smartphones (Windows Mobile Standard). I’ve tested this on my HTC Vox (S710).
Compatibility
In my tests, it worked just great on my HTC Universal and HTC Wizard. A lot of people have reported other success stories; for example, with the AKU3 HTC Trinity (P3600).
Verdict
Again and again: if you EVER plan to use your handheld as a modem, this hack is a MUST!
UPDATE (11/02/2007): There's a version specifically meant for the T-Mo Dash is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 .
Note that if you have a MS Smartphone (as opposed to a Pocket PC), it MUST be application unlocked for the hack to work. See for example See for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2004&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more links on application unlocking. Note that app unlocking is absolutely legal.
Error on a StarTrek
Hey all,
I get the following error after installing:
"Alert
Can't find 'ATCIUI' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the required libraries are available."
Any ideas? All the components are there...
qnonsense said:
Hey all,
I get the following error after installing:
"Alert
Can't find 'ATCIUI' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all the required libraries are available."
Any ideas? All the components are there...
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Which one did you try? "Technology"'s CAB? Mine?
Menneisyys said:
Which one did you try? "Technology"'s CAB? Mine?
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I tried both CABs, as well as simply copying the files into the Windows directory, all to no avail. My phone is application unlocked and I've verified that the registry entries are all in place... Very confusing.
Motorola Q9c
I couldn't get it to work on the Motorola Q9c either. Any chance there is a way to get it to work with this device?
What Are You Trying To Do
mabmarc1 said:
I couldn't get it to work on the Motorola Q9c either. Any chance there is a way to get it to work with this device?
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If you have bluetooth on your device, then I believe it will work on your device! If you are trying to configure the bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up configuration setup on your Motorola Q9c, then it will never work. Just install the bluetooth Dun.cab on your Motorola Q9c to the MAIN MEMORY! (NOT IN THE WINDOWS FOLDER)! Soft reset your device. Next turn the bluetooth on, pair the two devices, now the Motorola Q9c is ready to be use as a "modem" for bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up. Nothing else is to be done to the Motorola Q9c. The bluetooth {"DUN"} dial-up configuration setup should already be on the other device (PDA, Laptop, ect...) that you paired with the Motorola Q9c............! The directions that I'm giving you are for the bluetooth Dun.cab in my thread only............!
VZW Moto Q not working
Okay so I tried the .cab file and stupid me forgot to back up my device before hand. Yeah now I don't have any working Bluetooth.
2 questions.
1) Could someone please provide me with the files from a WM5 AKU3 phone?
ATCIUI.exe
ATCIUI.lnk
atcmdint.dll
bthatci.dll
2) If I can't get these files from someone will a Master Reset get my device back to normal or will it leave the broken files still in place.
This worked great on my Treo 750 w/ATT used it on my TomTom 920. THanks!
Anyone got luck using this on a HTC S730?
I'm trying to access the internet from my QTek 9000 (HTC Universal) through my HTC S730 phone. No luck.
On QTek 9000 (with crossbow's WM6) no clientside PAN is supported and on HTC S730 I cannot get DUN working...
Yes bmorg, master reset will revive your device
user 888
user888
matey did you make any progress with your query?
user888 said:
Anyone got luck using this on a HTC S730?
I'm trying to access the internet from my QTek 9000 (HTC Universal) through my HTC S730 phone. No luck.
On QTek 9000 (with crossbow's WM6) no clientside PAN is supported and on HTC S730 I cannot get DUN working...
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Your quest is similar to one I have. I have a T-Mobile Dash with HTC-S620 WM6.1 Smartphone ROM and EDGE data that I want to access the internet from a SE TM506 with HSDPA 3G data. There is no clientside BT PAN on the S620 and no way to BT DUN to the TM506. I have clientside serial port on the S620 to the TM506 but no app to take advantage.
So far quest was futile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433074
Help for WM6 GSM dial-up internet connection
Hello,
can anyone help me?.
I would access internet with my cell phone (Samsung SGH i780 os WM6) without having any kind of fast data connections with my provider, like gprs edge or hsdpa.
In other word I would connect to the service with a dial-up gsm connection at 9600bps, but WM6 seems to haven't capability to connect to internet this way.
I found here: http://www.modaco.com/content/smartp.../#entry1048254 some related like informations, think to understand that this post tells about to connect a BT device like gps, trough BT connection of a WM6 cell phone, via DUN to internet; someone think this could also be useful for me? If so how?
Please forgive me my english I hope it could have be understandable.
Tankyou.
Roberto Ruvinetti
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Hi!
Has anyone got the Planet3 (Skype, MSN and TV) working on this phone.
I tried the User agent hack and the browser.dll (posted by Sub69), but in one case it says my phone is not supported and the other will redirect me to the www.three.co.uk main site (browser.dll one)
I would really like to get it working as Three has the best internet for mobiles in UK (at least what I could find).
Please help me!
Anhtuan
EDIT - After soft reseting few time (one didnt do it), it seems to work with a url - mobile.three.co.uk/hb/singleurl. Have the N95 browser.dll active also. So let the testing begin
anhtuan445 said:
EDIT - After soft reseting few time (one didnt do it), it seems to work with a url - mobile.three.co.uk/hb/singleurl. Have the N95 browser.dll active also. So let the testing begin
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The TytnII is supported and sold by 3UK. To make your phone appear like a TytnII, amend the broswers useragent string to
HTC_TyTN_II Mozilla/4.0
Then going to mobile.three.co.uk will give you the HTC version of Planet3, which you have already found. No need to make your phone pretend to be a Nokia when it can appear like a Kaiser
Hi, i am an aussie 3mobile user here and would like to use the skype on planet three as well. Can you guys let me know if it works and also just a brief guide how do i make the changes so that i could download the skype app from 3planet into my TP. Thanks!
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Hi, i am an aussie 3mobile user here and would like to use the skype on planet three as well. Can you guys let me know if it works and also just a brief guide how do i make the changes so that i could download the skype app from 3planet into my TP. Thanks!
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Three don't have a Skype client for Windows Mobile, you need to install the iskoot client and make some registry changes so it points at the 3 Skype servers.
I got my Hermes working with the free Skype service on 3 by following post #46 on this page
http://tinyurl.com/6gaf4a
This is for UK users so you'll have to google to get the correct settings for your country, but the basic principle will be the same.
Hi guys,
i have bought a portable foldable bluetooth keyboard but it won't work with my diamond2.
i am using the energy rom with mobile 6.5.
my diamond does see the keyboard and also connects to it but doesn't see any "service".
i tested with a mobile 6.0 diamond and it worked.
does anyone have a solution??
check for these files in windows folder:
bthhid.dll
bthidsvc.dll
conshid.dll
hidparse.dll
kbdhid.dll
they are part of service to run BT keyboard.
as maybe 0.1% of users would use it, cooks usually disable them in custom ROMs.
if those files are are not present, run a cab I attached.
It's not certain it would work, this's not a proper way. The service is run by modules, I converted them to dll. They should be added to ROM, but it might work as well so give it a try.
I know this is an old thread to bump, but I gave this file a shot in energy.09.cookie classic on my HTC Pure/ TD2
It enables blueinput to work again, and when browsing keyboard services it lists a russian character that looks like an A (as opposed to not listing anything). I can't simply connect to the keyboard without blueinput, i have to start it, delete the keyboard from bluetooth devices, then reconnect it with blueinput running in the background.
My keyboard is relatively functional, but many keys are incorrect, swapped, or nonexistant. the Nataly rom for my device worked properly without blueinput if i recall. great first attempt though, thanks.