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Trying to decide between the Touch cruise and Kaiser...

I did a list of downsides for each (only in relation to each other).
Downsides of Kaiser:
- relatively Big and heavy.
Downsides of Touch Cruise: (from more worse to less worse)
- No cheap version (like AT&T's TILT - $500 USD).
- Insensitive touch screen.
- Bad reception on Bluetooth.
- Mediocre build quality (loose volume control, etc.)
- No hardware keyboard (becomes a bigger problem if the touch screen is insensitive).
- Smaller xda community (might change in the future).
It seems like the choice should be easy, but I just don't know how easy it will be for me to live with a 200 gram brick in my pocket...

As a former kaiser and now a polaris owner, I can say:
The Polaris is cheaper than the kaiser
the touch screen works just fine (same as with the tilt)
community for polaris & kaiser is almost the same
the polaris has more & newer functionality (applies to original rom)

As a former kaiser and now a polaris owner, I can say:
The Polaris is cheaper than the kaiser
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As I said, for the Kaiser there is the cheaper option of going with the AT&T TILT, which can be had NEW (with warranty) for $450-500 USD on ebay. The lowest price on ebay for which the Polaris can be bought is around $700 USD. That's a HUGE price difference, for two products which basically have similar functions and hardware.
the touch screen works just fine (same as with the tilt)
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I've read just too many posts from people with the Polaris saying the touch screen is insensitive. Are you saying it's a non issue and both the touch screen sensitivity of the Polaris is not worse than the Kaiser ? (it's important for me to hear it from someone who came from the Kaiser).

Noam23 said:
I did a list of downsides for each (only in relation to each other).
Downsides of Kaiser:
- relatively Big and heavy.
Downsides of Touch Cruise: (from more worse to less worse)
- No cheap version (like AT&T's TILT - $500 USD).
- Insensitive touch screen.
- Bad reception on Bluetooth.
- Mediocre build quality (loose volume control, etc.)
- No hardware keyboard (becomes a bigger problem if the touch screen is insensitive).
- Smaller xda community (might change in the future).
It seems like the choice should be easy, but I just don't know how easy it will be for me to live with a 200 gram brick in my pocket...
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I had a kaiser for 1 month or 2 also then sold it because I realized I didn't use the hardware keyboard as much as I thought I did.
When I took the cruise out of the box I thought it was a fake phone because it is lighter then the kaiser (obviously) and my s730, hell, even lighter then my Motorola v60 I think! lol
Here was my mini list
Kaiser:
More mechanical components mean greater chances of something physically breaking/wearing down. I drop kaiser on the city bus, I am screwed!
jog wheel works fine, but it's a little loose sometimes too, like the cruise volume slider (this thing is almost useless at the moment unless I can "work it in")
The hard keys on the front are great, but on a lot of kaisers, they are loose. I had two kaisers, and both hard key face plates were loose. had to send the first one back because depending on how much the plate had slid, i couldn't go up or down with the d pad.
I really liked the touch keypad that i installed on the kaiser, but the buttons were harder to press with thumb in corners or a long the side cuz of the groove where the screen meets the casing.
Kaiser is around the same size, but just a lot thicker obviously.
Thoughts on the cruise so far;
Volume slider sucks ass, have to use my nail to move it. Luckily whatever i am listening to i can either use that REALLY cool dial pad/jog wheel thing. I set hat more than I used the kaiser jog wheel. Or I use my headset.
The screen is flush with the sides and tops of the casing, so hitting buttons on the corners or sides are no problem, but if you have a case then it's the same as having a kaiser.
About the insensitive screen. I have to agree with you on that somewhat. With the kaiser, it looks like what's there is just the screen. But with the cruise, it looks like the screen is underneath another layer of something. This is how we have the flush face with the cruise, there is something else over the screen that the kaiser does not(i don't think at last) have. sometimes if you press hard enough (which you shouldn't have to do ) you can feel your thumb hit the "second screen" (the actual lcd), not the thing that we actually touch on top). It's hard to explain clearly
I have sensitives on very high using kaisertweak and playing with reg keys. I've got it pretty close to sensitivity of kaiser now. I do notice with cube i have to press a little hard to OPEN it, but not left or right or close it. kind of weird.
It's true about the communities, it is a little small right now, but also I think tytn i had abig following so it's natural tytn II would now also. but again, cruise and tytn ii are pretty much the same inside.
I bought my cruise for 699 Canadian, new.
The radio is really cool too (amazing, for such a high tech modern device, something as old school as an FM radio is what really impresses me.. lol)
Another gripe so far about cruise is that i dont know if its the rom i am using, or if its all roms, or if it's the extra layer over the screen, is that when I am typing out a message, with ANY keyboard, but ONLY in the messaging application, i get no feedback from the keys. Nothing highlights if i press it quickly. The letter appears, which is great, but i don't see any of the keys being highlighted unless i hold onto it longer. This could be the rom id downloaded, but i tried on 2 roms I think, and it might have even been like this on the original rom too, I can't remember. I am still trying to figure it out. But visual key feedback is very important to me. I didn't have that problem with the touch keyboard installed on the kaiser. I think I'll do some more testing on that tonight actually.

A few other things.. haha, on a roll.
With the Kaiser.. I noticed that the way I hold it with one had, my pointing finger woudl ALWAYS land on the damn camera lens because the lens is on the top half of the casing the back. Pretty annoying to obsessively clean that lens. With the cruise, the main camera is in the middle, and my finger does not touch it
I do admit the Kaiser is nicer to actually hold because of the rounder corners and it's thickness. If fits in the hand better.
The cruise has more of a rectangular/pointy shape. It takes a little getting use to but I didn't really notice the difference until today. Also, depends on how you hold it i guess.

Kaiser (i've never owned one, although I have a Hermes)too thick....looks dated (very shallow statement..I know)
Polaris..I've never had a problem with the touch screen...barring ofcourse when you try to select a different SIP from the taskbar.
The PocketCM keyboard is one the best touch software around...very intellegent...I was never a texter..but with this keyboard I very rarely have to backtrack my typing...and in general touch software is only going to get better.
besides IMVPO I dont like thick pullout keypads....
Just my 2 pence worth...

briggs81,
Thank you for your words.
From what you say I think I'll go with the TILT. I simply can't justify paying $200 USD more for the cruise. If they were both at the same price, I would have taken the cruise with its faults, but the price difference is the last straw.
In the following year I'm sure lots of great devices wil come out, including probably HTC devices with proper video drivers. We should always be ready to upgrade, and I don't feel the cruise is such a good investment at this time (if you're on a budget, that is).

Screen insensitive??? Lol, with the right tweak the screen is to sensitive haha...mine is quick and very alert for touches.

Yzord said:
Screen insensitive??? Lol, with the right tweak the screen is to sensitive haha...mine is quick and very alert for touches.
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Maybe on your device, and in your opinion. No point in laughing.

Don't know about everyone else, but my screen is extremely sensitive, it has never missed a tap EVER. FYI, I roll w/o a screen protector (they ruin the look too much imo but I always keep the phone in its suede case when not in use). BTW, Kaiser is really a brick compared to the Polaris, and the polaris is pretty much a one handed phone for me whereas the Kaiser is definitely not, furthermore as far as looks there is really no competition. However, if you need the keyboard Kaiser is clearly the only choice. I emphasize need, bc you will most likely find that you get along just fine with the onscreen touch keyboard.

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Maybe on your device, and in your opinion. No point in laughing.
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No... this is true. There is not any touch-sensitivity problems with Polaris as it can easily (very easily) can be improved with some registry tweaks.

I own one of the first Touch Cruises (first one reported here in the Forum) and I also have a Kaiser for conducting an end-user custom ROM review. I am free to put my sim card in either device, but it always ends up in the Cruise. I have to force myself to keep the Kaiser active for any time over a few hours.
With the Kaiser custom ROM, I have all of the TouchFlo interface features as the Cruise. I have never perceived a problem with the screen sensitivity on the Cruise. To the contrary, I have more struggles with the Kaiser and most often, I find the landscape/portrait getting out of sync due to accidentally nudging the screen slider on then back off before the swap has time to apply. If you're bothered by the pointy corners on the Cruise, get the Orbit II but this is really only cosmetics. For me I have no issues with the volume slider on the Crusie. The scroll wheel is kind of free and easy, but for the limited number of times I've ever needed to use it, it works fine. I think you can tell which device I prefer. For me, even if it were $200-$250 less for the AT&T Tilt, I don't like it sitting side by side with the Cruise.

Indeed you can edit the registry setting for the sensitivity of the screen, although it is not needed (atleast for me).
I find it strange that you have to pay 200 dollars more for a cruise then a kaiser.
A kaiser here costs around 670 euro, the cruise costs about 500 euro
Also the pictures I am taking have far more better quality then on the kaiser.
Maybe my lense on the kaiser wasnt clean enough, i don't know.
But as said before here, the position of the camera is way better then on the kaiser. No more fears for dirty fingers on the lense
I switched from kaiser to touch cruise and until now i hadnt have one moment of regret

Damn it guys, you are making this decision harder for me
Regarding the screen of the touch cruise, how can you protect it if it's on the same plane with the sides of the device, I mean, how will the screen protector stay in one place and not move ?
I find it strange that you have to pay 200 dollars more for a cruise then a kaiser.
A kaiser here costs around 670 euro, the cruise costs about 500 euro
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That's because you don't have the AT&T TILT version of the Kaiser in europe.

Regarding the screen of the touch cruise, how can you protect it if it's on the same plane with the sides of the device, I mean, how will the screen protector stay in one place and not move ?
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The TC comes with a screen protector which sticks to the screen via adhesive (I haven't put it on though as I'm careful with the phone and keep it in its oem suede/microfiber case when I'm not on the phone).
BTW, I was actually in a position to get the ATT Tilt for just $100 after rebates and discounts...I still chose the Touch Cruise as its ridiculously better looking and a lot more usable for me as the flush screen paired w/Touch Flo allows for one handed usage (one-handed usage is key for me, esp as I'm a former Smartphone user).
FYI: I did pick up another smartphone from ATT to sell on eBay so that I could in a way subsidize the cost of the Polaris.

on tuch cruise screen sensitivity for finger, not for stylus. so its easy for finger & hard for stylus.

The TC comes with a screen protector which sticks to the screen via adhesive (I haven't put it on though as I'm careful with the phone and keep it in its oem suede/microfiber case when I'm not on the phone).
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But can't it still catch a scratch from the stylus ?, is the screen of the touch cruise less prone to scratches ? (like the Iphone)
Also, using adhesive will destroy the look of the phone, no ?, and how will you take it off if you want without leaving residue ?
on tuch cruise screen sensitivity is for finger, not for stylus. so its easy for finger & hard for stylus.
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Really, it will be easier using a stylus with the Kaiser than with the Cuise ?, a lot of software is still for stylus only...

I have never found a need for using a screen protector on any of my devices. As they have been passed down through my teenage sons, they too have learned proper care and use of the screens. With the Cruise, I definitely don't like to prospect of having a 'sticker' on the face if it. Just learn how to properly care for and use your screen and it will last.

I have never found a need for using a screen protector on any of my devices. As they have been passed down through my teenage sons, they too have learned proper care and use of the screens. With the Cruise, I definitely don't like to prospect of having a 'sticker' on the face if it. Just learn how to properly care for and use your screen and it will last.
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I intend to put the phone in my jean's pocket (without anything else) with the screen toward the leg.
Could this thing cause a problem ?

alipi2007 said:
on tuch cruise screen sensitivity for finger, not for stylus. so its easy for finger & hard for stylus.
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I don't have this issue, its easy for me to use my finger just as it is easy to use the stylus. Both require very little pressure. I did use a Kaiser in a shop once, and it actually required a lot of pressure (prob due screen protector they had installed on it).
I intend to put the phone in my jean's pocket (without anything else) with the screen toward the leg.
Could this thing cause a problem ?
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I wouldn't think so.... but I would still use the oem suede/microfiber sheath, as its extremely thin and doesn't add to the bulk of the device, but protects it from lint, and any inadverdent scratches just in case something happens to already be in your pocket.
But can't it still catch a scratch from the stylus ?, is the screen of the touch cruise less prone to scratches ? (like the Iphone)
Also, using adhesive will destroy the look of the phone, no ?, and how will you take it off if you want without leaving residue ?
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The screen seems very resistant to scratches from the stylus and the stylus glides across the screen without any resistance. In fact, you got me curious and I applied a moderate amount of strength to the stylus just to see and its still smooth as silk without any scratching.
As far as the adhesive from the screen protector, my guess is that this is a non-issue. I don't use screen protectors as they tend to look kind of cheap, but I'd imagine if it did leave any residue behind, it could be cleaned up fairly easily.

Screen Distortions

I am very happy with my Touch Pro. In fact, I bought 2. Now I have very many HTC Devices, however, both Touch Pros now show a very strange
behaviour.
I get some ghosting on the screen, which means, if I use solid colour
backgrounds, they previous graphic is partially visible.
Best example is the volume control. I get very strong distortions against the solid background.
Anyone else has this problem?
I also noticed that the mounting points on the edge of the screen, causes
a slight distortion close to ever corner of the screen...
never had this before.

I have the same issue. I've heard that this issue is programmatic not physical lcd burn. Usually a restart helps. Try

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I have the same issue. I've heard that this issue is programmatic not physical lcd burn. Usually a restart helps. Try
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Yes, soft reset helps. But i find the location of these distortions really strange.
i get them around the LCD mounting points.

Indeed it is strange and looks really like a physical damage but I think it has something to do with the software (BIOS or whatever is on that position in pda) link to the screen power management. I have this kind of distortion once per week and often it also goes away itself. Actually it almost doesn't disturb me. Ii yours very strong?

This is interesting. I always look over my LCD displays in laptops very carefully for defects. Sometimes corners are pinched and produce dark areas. Sometimes the inverter is bad and gives bad illumination.
My Raphael's screen seems pretty decent so far, even if I look at its edges from extreme angles I don't see much of a problem.
Can you post pictures or youtube? I am curious to know what you are seeing.

The G1 and "touch" Surface Area

can the G1 calculate surface area of a point touching it? or would it be possible to do that? it seems like it could work, but i'm not sure lol or else i wouldn't be asking this.
the reason i'm asking this is, we can make apps that emulate "pressure" so if someone barely taps the phone, it will have less surface area, and if someone presses the phone hard, it will have more surface area, there could be A LOT of things done with it

Don't see why not being it has been shown to be able to handle multi-touch. I agree though... would have many possible applications

yeah it could be used for games and such where u could see how fast you can match the weight on a weighing scale of some sort. i'm just saying it should be easy since we've seen multitouch on the phone. this would have an extra benefit over the iphone.

People are always asking for scales on touch screen devices and never get them.

Or finger painting with pressure driven line width or opacity!

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yeah it could be used for games and such where u could see how fast you can match the weight on a weighing scale of some sort. i'm just saying it should be easy since we've seen multitouch on the phone. this would have an extra benefit over the iphone.
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The scale idea wouldn't work on a capacitive screen. The sensor detects the area being touched and then approximates the center. The idea of a "pressure sensor" would have to adjust based on variances from the initial contact. My thumb would make a much bigger initial contact than my pinkey, that doesn't mean I'd be pushing any harder.

but it is basically inferred that everyone will be using their thumbs for these types of apps so it wouldn't matter. but HEY guess what? its basically proven that the G1 CAN infact determine "pressure"!! i've had this app for a while now, but i just recently opened it up again to mess with it, and to my surprise, i noticed that the app could tell how much "pressure" i was puttin on the screen. now i dont know if its actual pressure its calculating, or if its the surface area it is calculating, but it sure as hell knows the difference between a light, medium, and hard press.
the app is called BouncingBall in the games section (it would definately be the last place i would see a pressure sensitive app lol) it may seem like such a dull app (no offence) but it really is a great concept. try it out. you just click the screen, and a ball appears where you tapped the screen, and depending on how hard you tap the screen, the size of the balls differentiate. and i know it isn't a "how long you held the screen" type of thing, because i pressed the screen pretty hard a couple times very quickly. like a quick hard jab with my thumb lol. and the ball that was created was large. but anyways, test it out.

I'm not sure if pressure data is made available/enabled in Android, but the synaptics touchscreen and driver definitely do support pressure detection. Check out the driver in git:
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...drivers/input/touchscreen/synaptics_i2c_rmi.c
and search for ABS_PRESSURE. Technically it's a misnomer as capacitive sensors don't deform or directly measure pressure in any way. "Pressure" is actually the change in capacitance as a finger (or any other object) approaches the touchscreen. It is used by the driver to determine thresholds for which the touchscreen should signal the system finger_down and finger_up events. Since no contact is needed to measure a capacitance change, the sensor may actually report a change in "pressure" even before the finger has touched the screen.
Still, I don't think this would be a very good idea for use as a user input. One reason is that everyone's physiology is different. My thumb lightly touching the screen may give a value of 10, whereas your thumb lightly touching the screen could give a value of 20. Another reason is that I don't think it would be very wise to encourage users to be liberally applying pressure to the screen.

Palm Wrap Eliminator?(Thinking Out Loud)

So I was thinking about the issue of palm wrap. I think the implementation of it would be fairly simple. This would probably require root access, but I digress.
You would basically disregard any input happening within 1/8" - 1/4" on the border of the screen. Well not any inputs, but any prolonged inputs. Like the inputs that happen when your fingers hang off the edge of the screen, or the palm of your hand grazing the screen when you try to press something with your thumb.
There are very few programs that use the full screen, especially near the edges. If there are it would just be a matter of putting the anti-registration on hold when the app is in the foreground.
You could even create a setting for "fat" fingers and "slim" fingers. The fatter the finger, the further out you would disregard inputs from there.
The caveat being that you have to have it running on the system level. Now that google has finally added multi touch support on their apps, I wouldn't be surprised if you have access to input information on the system level.
(I know jack about making programs on adroid, but the rum is helping my mind think)
What do you guys think?

I haven't had palm wrap problems since I bought my seidio innocase. Adds a little beef to the unit as a whole (just a little, nothing major) but keeps my palm off the edges of the screen.

i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone

Good idea my friend.

Just out of curiosity, does everyone here hold there phone in one hand and use the other to input anything? Because I can't see any palmwrap problem unless I do this.
I almost exclusively use my nexus with one hand doing inputs with my thumb if I'm not in landscape mode and I've never had any problems with palm wrap (I might be misunderstanding the concept completely though, so feel free to correct me).

I guess it depends on the length of your fingers the base of my thumb is what mostly affects one handed use for me.

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i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
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[off-topic] That is 'not' a good road to follow...get one of the soft cases or atleast the skins that you dont even notice it (personally I bought THIS and its amazing, has amazing 'grip' and it fits perfectly, unnoticeable).
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I dont seem to have this problem either. But it could be helpful to others with bigger hands maybe?

I have this problem sometimes and it is annoying as heck. I don't even think you need to go to all that trouble to fix it. I think just enabling multitouch on the dexktop might fix it. Don't know how difficult that would be though.

General The Bezels of the ROG 5 aren't Symmetrical!

Greetings, so I have been a proud owner of the ROG series since the beginning, I have owned the original ROG, and currently I still own the ROG 2 & 5. I haven't owned the ROG 3 because it wasn't much of an upgrade from the 2 and there were compromises as we all know with the headphone jack,.. etc.
Up until the ROG 5 the bezels of all the ROG phones were symmetrical, but not the case with the ROG 5. I am drawn to symmetry especially when it comes to phones, I hate unsymmetrical bezels or phones with notches thats why I keep avoiding flagship phones because none meet my preference (I know it's not a big deal but in my case unfortunately it is).
So coming back to the headline, I have measured the top and bottom bezels and the bottom bezel is smaller by almost a 0.5 mm - 1mm. I have been noticing it since the moment I got the phone but I kept doubting it until I measured it, also i didn't believe ASUS will do it since there was no justified reason for them to do it in the first place (Disappointed honestly because I love this phone dual speakers design out of all the ROG series).
Anyway I wanted to point it out for those people interested, since I haven't found any mention of it in any thread or website.
Device:
ASUS ROG 5 ( Chinese model CN_1005D)
12GB/128GB version
P.S : I added a photo of my phone scanned, then i measured it in Photoshop. This is what it turned out to be (As accurate as i could be ) ( A difference of 0.6 mm)

Are you sure it isn't a defect? Can't replicate your results.

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Are you sure it isn't a defect? Can't replicate your results.
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How can it be a defect, just by looking at the bezels from every angle you will notice that they aren't identical, now regarding the difference in measure I could be off but it's =<0.5 mm.

tyfor me it's perfectly even

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How can it be a defect, just by looking at the bezels from every angle you will notice that they aren't identical, now regarding the difference in measure I could be off but it's =<0.5 mm.
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You answered your own question. Your bezels aren't identical.
Got out a ruler just to make sure and mine are a perfect 1 : 1 match.

@Rashad83 I always thought I was the only one
None of my friends ever understood my problems with most phones and their notches/punch holes and bezels.
I would rather have exact same bezels than a larger screen ratio.
Anyway back to the topic: thanks for your information. From the pictures it looked perfectly.

The first picture with the stickers on the display might seem off because the adhesive wasn't sticking but the drawn line is correct I assure you. I hate to say it but they aren't identical 100% sure!

So this is the bottom bezel with the sticker on it.
Now I took the bottom sticker and placed it on the top bezel, you can clearly see they aren't identical.

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You answered your own question. Your bezels aren't identical.
Got out a ruler just to make sure and mine are a perfect 1 : 1 match.
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I am happy for you if that is the case, but still I can't believe it's a defect because as I understand it these displays come out from the same mold used to create all the ROG 5 displays. Basically I couldn't be the only case with this issue, it's either all the ROG 5 devices are suffering from this issue or I am one of the few( Maybe not a few, will have to see) suffering from this issue.
Anyway thanks for the feedback.

Lol, you weren't suppose to notice this

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I am happy for you if that is the case, but still I can't believe it's a defect because as I understand it these displays come out from the same mold used to create all the ROG 5 displays. Basically I couldn't be the only case with this issue, it's either all the ROG 5 devices are suffering from this issue or I am one of the few( Maybe not a few, will have to see) suffering from this issue.
Anyway thanks for the feedback.
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I never said you were the only case. Your issue would likely be an entire run (or location). I get that you are worked up about it, but a defect can be in the mold. It's still a defect.
What may be helpful is to post where you bought it and which version. There are two that work in the US, so this may be something that sways people if it only applies to one of them.

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I never said you were the only case. Your issue would likely be an entire run (or location). I get that you are worked up about it, but a defect can be in the mold. It's still a defect.
What may be helpful is to post where you bought it and which version. There are two that work in the US, so this may be something that sways people if it only applies to one of them.
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Thanks for the tip, the version I own is the Chinese version/model, i bought it locally so it wasn't shipped to abroad. The funny thing is that this is my second unit, the first unit I bought had scratches on the charger head so they replaced it for me. By the way I bought it from ASUS online official store.

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Rashad83 said:
Thanks for the tip, the version I own is the Chinese version/model, i bought it locally so it wasn't shipped to abroad. The funny thing is that this is my second unit, the first unit I bought had scratches on the charger head so they replaced it for me. By the way I bought it from ASUS online official store.
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That's actually really interesting. I know mine is Tencent, but it came with the WW firmware. I wonder if Taiwan got a separate manufacturing location.

So this topic got me interested in comparing other ASUS ROG 5 screen bezel sizes. I found this clear sample from Androidauthority Website , credits go to them .
I measured the length of the top (0.28 CM) and the bottom bezel (0.26 CM) in Photoshop, which results in a ratio of (1.076923076923077 : 1).
Now by my phone measurements the top bezel from the top speaker to the start of the display i get a measure of (~0.5 CM). Now if we multiply the ratio by the size i got, the bottom bezel should be (0.4642857142857143 CM). So a difference of ~ 0.4 MM.
Either way this proves that they aren't identical, It's not a big deal or a shocking discovery. None the less it's good to know for people wondering.

Rashad83 said:
So this topic got me interested in comparting other ASUS ROG 5 screen bezel sizes. I found this clear sample from Androidauthority Website , credits go to them .
I measured the length of the top (0.28 CM) and the bottom bezel (0.26 CM) in Photoshop, which results in a ratio of (1.076923076923077 : 1).
Now by my phone measurements the top bezel from the top speaker to the start of the display i get a measure of (~0.5 CM). Now if we multiply the ratio by the size i got, the bottom bezel should be (0.4642857142857143 CM). So a difference of ~ 0.4 MM.
Either way this proves that they aren't identical, It's not a big deal or a shocking discovery. None the less it's good to know for people wondering.
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Starting to sound like an old cigarette commercial. That extra whatever millimeters longer

I wouldn't be surprised if it is intentional. The more I was thinking about it, the screen protectors have a black top and bottom that partially cut into the screen. The manufacturer just assumes they are identical and ends up covering it up. That would explain varied results.
The camera in the top likely requires just slightly more space. The screen has to be a specific size, but they might not have been able to make the phone any taller. Rather than make the screen smaller or put the camera into the screen, you end up with slightly different sizes.

This phone could use even more top & bottom bezels if you ask me! If you use it for gaming with max touch responsiveness, you know what I'm talking about - a lot of accidental touches around the lower corners in landscape. Not cool when gaming. The area block function in A-Crate doesn't work for me.
In addition I wish the display corners were just good old full size square corners instead of being as rounded as they are.

Andrologic said:
This phone could use even more top & bottom bezels if you ask me! If you use it for gaming with max touch responsiveness, you know what I'm talking about - a lot of accidental touches around the lower corners in landscape. Not cool when gaming. The area block function in A-Crate doesn't work for me.
In addition I wish the display corners were just good old full size square corners instead of being as rounded as they are.
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I cannot agree more. Unfortunately there is no newer phone that meets these requirements. However the rog 5 is the least guly one in my opinion.
I hope that "no bezel", Notch, Punch hole trend with rounded corners ends as soon as possible.