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T-Mobile Dash Bluetooth Modem Mac

When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.

joshstte said:
When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
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The Dash has AKU3, which means it lacks BT DUN and only has BT PAN. This is why you don't see DUN, unlike with pre-AKU3 devices.
I'll publish a big article on all these questions in a few hours, where I explain all these questions in detail. Stay tuned!

Menneisyys
Is there a way to get a Tmobile dash paired with a G4 Mac Powerbook?
I want to access the internet on my powerbook via my Dash.
I see in your reply above you were going to write an article on this. I've not found out how to get this to work.
thanks for any help
John

I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.

hatoncat said:
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
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Let's all hope the Widcomm BT hack will some day also have DUN support, even under AKU3+. See the Hermes / Wizard forums for more info on the hack.

DUN / PAN Problems with OSX
I know OSX doesn't support PAN, but check this site out --> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007194/blackjack_mac_connection
It's a write up on how to get the Samsung BlackJack working with OSX, BlackJack I believe also use PAN.
I tried it, but wasn't able to get it to work. I have to leave the office right now, so maybe someone else might have better luck than I do.
-kz

working with p3600
It seems working with a P3600 using the new network sharing feature with the USB Cable! The mac sees a ethernet port (with ip already asigned by p3600)under systempreferences>network.
I donnu if its because i have missing sync (demo) installed that that connection just comes up...
cheers..

Update: Working on MBP CoreDuo...
I've got the dash, and I set it and my macbook pro to be discoverable, went thru the wizard on the mac side which found no usable services, then enabled the "internet sharing" app on my dash, and immediately selected the "join network with tmobile43" option on the bluetooth menu on my mac, and volia! i'm typing this to you via this connection.
Solid! Now if only bluetooth charged the battery

tmobile dash bluetooth modem problem
Ok this is wat i have to say i have a macbook and when i go to bluetooth setting it says in can use the kind of network interface that ur powerbook doesnt support and the reason ur powerbook doesnt support it is either u need to upgrade ur airport card or mabye upgrade to leopard like i did or do both because im running my macbook with the 802.11n wireless and bluetooth card and with 10.5 so that might be a solution to ur problem and i also know that u should upgrade to a macbook or a macbook pro if u want excelent peformance or heavily upgrade ur powerbook g4 and anyway wat are the specs on ur powerbook??
(macbook white 2.0 ghz 80gb hd and 2 gigs of ram)

sorry i put in powerbook for some reason i meant to say wat mac do u have

It seems to me that OS X (Leopard at least) wants to use the Network Access Point Bluetooth profile with Bluetooth PAN. I got it working with WM6.1 but I had to change Bluetooth PAN from PANU to NAT.
See ]Fixing 0803xx Bluetooth PAN on OS X 10.5.
NOTE: The thread number has changed from 382057(broken) to 373138 or go directly to the post.
UPDATE: Apparently the threads have been renumbered... or at least the thread with my post in it has changed... here's the link to the post: 2080487

Active sync through bluetooth

Hi Guys,
complete newby, know-nothing-boy here.
Got my xda orbit and just trying to get it all set up the way I want it to work. this is not easy given that I am a complete technophobe so everything's a massive learning curve.....
.....so, I got my orbit 2 connected to my works pc through Active sync and it talks to the calendar and everything appears to be fine and I've set up a bluetooth connection and can beam a file from my laptop to the phone. However, I cannot get my calendar/emails to up-date through bluetooth and neither me nor our IT guy can figure out why not!!!!
Can any guru on here help please.
Thanks,
David

Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.

namaste74 said:
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
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I'm on XP and I have not downloaded the new mobile device centre. where should I ge tit from??
Thanks,
David

Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David

Hi David,
1. You have to pair your Touch with XP
2. Create a incoming port.
3. select the incoming port in active sync for connection
4. start activesync on touch
if you need further info please use the search function.
Best Regards
Yoshi

david_miller70 said:
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
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Windows mobile device center works only with Vista

David,
I feel for you sir.
I've been a PDA / Pocket PC user for a LONG time. I've used a Kyocera 6035 (Palm-based Cell/PDA), Sprint 6601, Sprint 6700, AT&T 8525, and even a BlackJack II. So I've used Windows XP with a Pocket PC LOTS of times, but *I* had trouble while in Chicago this week.
A co-worker lent me his Sony VGX-UX280 for that trip. It's a Ultra Portable "laptop" with Bluetooth, Wireless, and Windows XP loaded. Having setup my phone to "tether" (aka provided an Internet Connection) to my Dell Inspiron 9400, a MacBook Pro, a MacBook, and other laptops... I didn't have any concerns about using my phone for Internet on the road. Boy, was that a mistake.
So I'm on the road, and I try to use Internet Sharing on my cell to provide a connection the laptop. It seems to connect, and the laptop tries to pull an IP connection over bluetooth, but it NEVER got a private IP address... so it assigns itself a 169 address that as many know isn't a "connected" IP for most network situations. It's a fallback, when a network device can't find a DHCP server to provide an IP address. Instead, it assigns one to itself, but it's offline.
I confirm that the "sharing" is part of the problem by running Internet Explorer. When "sharing" is connected", I couldn't get to a web page on the phone. If I disconnect, everything works as it should. So I'm like WTF?
I came out to this site and others from my phone browser, and one post said I needed ActiveSync connected between the phone and laptop to tether. So I tried setting up ActiveSync over bluetooth, but try as I might if would NEVER connect.
I then downloaded WMWifi something or other. It basically turns your WM phone into a Wireless AP so laptops and other devices can connect to the Internet. But similar to the Bluetooth problem, I couldn't pull an IP. This was VERY odd, because the Wifi program let you configure which IP numbers you wanted to use. Several options were available, such as 192.168.0.x, 192.168.1.x, up to 192.168.3.x. And there was another range as well, but none of these worked. Not even when I set a static IP address in the proper range on the laptop, or turned off the IP setting in the Wifi program, as suggested in their documentation.
So while trying to "fix" things, I tried deleting my existing Activesync profile. BAD idea, as that deleted all my contacts and such from the phone. So then I'm in Chicago, 2000 miles from home, and the only phone numbers I have with NO names is what is in my call history.
At this point, I figure I have one of two problems.
1) The config to the AT&T network on my cell is wrong, which is why the connection isn't working as it had in the past. I do know that while the AT&T settings auto-configured by the Touch Cruise weren't perfect after the wizard ran. I went out to AT&T's web site, and customized my settings to match the Tilt recommended configure. I also configured a "standard" GPRS setting that DOES NOT use the AT&T Proxy Server. That's been the ONLY way I can use Skype .6, as it can't connect to their website through Media Net.
2) One of the many programs I've installed on my phone has fouled the registry/config of my phone. I made a list of all the apps I've installed on my phone, and I suppose any one of these could have screwed up my ability to tether...
Skyfire .6
Flash Player Active X
CoreCodec Coreplayer
HTC HTC Home - Schen 2.10
MS Remote Desktop
Bluefire
Total Commander
PM Registry Editor
iNav iGuidance
Franson GpsGate 2.0
Google Maps
With the above, I can navigate anywhere in the US, connect to my work network with VPN, control my computer there like I was in my chair, and much more. But obviously not being able to get to the Internet on the road is unacceptable.
Probably will hard reset the phone this morning, and take it from there.
Sorry if it seems like I took over your thread. But like you, I had NO luck connecting ActiveSync through Bluetooth.
(Quick note: Even when I borrowed a USB Cable on the road, and tried to tether my laptop to my phone for Internet... I STILL couldn't get IE to connect to websites via my phone. I COULD use Activesync, but by then I'd already lost my contacts, etc. So I'll get that back on the phone now that I'm home.)

Internet Connection Sharing over WiFi

I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers

its built in i think in the commanager last option. but it is set to bluetooth pan standard if i am correct.
you can try use advanced config 3.1 and goto data connections.. change private interface for internet sharing to wlan.

i was surprised to see Advanced Config had the option there. But it still doesn't work
I changed the private interface from the default of 'Custom' to WLAN11g1 and it asks me to soft-reset the device, which i did. Then I go into Internet Sharing, and I still only get 'USB' or 'Bluetooth PAN' as options. Am i missing something?

there is another wlan option in there.
i have no idea how this is supposed to work :/
one would think that setting this option would set the setting to wlan as supposed to. not sure if you should change it or not afterwards with the connectionsharingsettingstab. it probably overwrites the value in registry.
here is something you can try :
turn on wifi
set the option in adv config to TnetWln1
reset
turn on this wifi AP application and try using it

WMwifiRouter
Just tried WMwifiRouter on my Touch Pro and it worked fine

Works fine for me too. Takes all the hassle out of it!

adityasen said:
I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers
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2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....

Manni01 said:
2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....
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ICS has nothing to do with your carrier. It works the same way on your phone as it does on the pc. it merely routes the gateway to the devices connected to the ICS network.
I myself have a TP and use ICS with Softbank (softbank roms do not contain ICS) and it works fine.
I agree with you however, when it comes to bluetooth. Even if your PC doesnt have BT, it is well worth it to buy one of those nifty mini adapters.
they are so tiny, you wont even see them. But easy to setup and fast enough.

im with 3. nomal mail / web works fine. there are no restrictions by the network for ics. as for the BT question, I dont have BT on my laptop. it has built in wifi and i want to use that. i also have a mac n have never managed 2 get BT PAN working with os x.

Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.

latest version works ok
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the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck

adityasen said:
the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck
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its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually

da_jojo said:
its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually
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Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.

henkreyn said:
Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.
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First make sure you have no active BT connection, either on your desktop/laptop or on the TP (i.e. BT Headset).
You need to go to Comm Manager (BT switched on of course!), select BT Options (lower right menu), Mode, and select "make this device visible to other devices".
Once you've setup a partnership, it will probably say "connection denied" on the first connection.
Don't be as dumb as me, got to internet sharing (all programs) and select BT Pan and Connect... Then try to connect BT Pan again...
It *should* work (works a treat on my Vista 32 desktop and my Sony TZ11 Laptop, I get around 400-500kbps down and a bit less up).

BT PAN
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.

Maybe you should try IcsControl.
It's free and works great.

Id go wmwifirouter route. I have never had good luck with icscontrol never could get it to work and it pissed me off instead

henkreyn said:
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.
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You need to update the bluetooth driver for your laptop. Check the manufacturer (in, the device manager), usually widcomm or toshiba, and try to get it from their website if HP doesn't provide it (although they should). Vista drivers usually work, but I guess you're using XP? It may be worth checking on HP website to see if their offer updated BT drivers for your laptop.

Nighthawk said:
Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.
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I've tried both versions of the program (free old V0.91 and trial for the commercial V1.11).
They both work with the Touch Pro (tried with my Vaio TZ11).
V1.11 is however around 20% faster (I get an average of 500kbps with V0.91, and consistently above 600kbps down with the V1.11).
So the old version gives about the same bandwidth as my BT Pan (without the convenience of sharing between more than one client), while the V1.11 seems to be better optimised and provides better bandwidth.
The response time is around 100ms for both (against around 140ms for BT Pan). Upstream is around 300kbps for both version , against 400kbps for BT Pan.
This is on a UK T-Mobile HSDPA connection, with 3/4 bars signal strength (could those who manage to get it to work let us know if they get better figures?).
You should obviously get much better with Vodafone in a 7.2Mbps area like London/Major airports.

Remote Desktop via direct Wifi

Is there a program or way i can use remote desktop without having a router connect to my laptop. So using the built in wifi on the laptop to connect to my HD2.
Or even bluetooth..
Just an idea as I can't have a router here at uni.

are you trying to basically surf the web from your laptop using your HD2?
you need something like internet sharing which is available on the Device itself (its a standard Windows thing). you need to set it up though, and of course make sure your device has internet access (GPRS/whatever connection methods).

Nah not using the internet, but to view and control my pc from my phone over wifi.

gotcha. why would you wanna do that?
but anyway...dont think it is possible like that as the wireless on the laptop will not act as a DHCP (like a router does) to give an IP to clients who are connecting to it.

It would be cool though to be able to use it as a remote control to perhaps skip or play music etc. But connecting through wifi would be impossible i think.
I recall with my old old old sony ericsson phone I could connect to my computer using a bluetooth dongle and control music and even the mouse cursor...such an awesome feature. A bluetooth program for the HD2 would be good providing you have a bluetooth dongle.

funny you should mention an app like that as I developed an app a few years ago which does just that called WMP Remote.
basically, you connect it via bluetooth or wireless (as long as you get an activesync connection going, or even wireless with a router) and then get a list of files from a certain directly, play/pause/vol up/down from the Mobile application and play files in full screen and so on....
haven't updated it in a LONG time but was a big hit back then.
also developed another app called DAR~ling, which is a Digital Audio Recorder

firehawk2010 said:
funny you should mention an app like that as I developed an app a few years ago which does just that called WMP Remote.
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Firehawk
It looks an awesome App, but does not work with WM6.5 & Windows 7 (not sure which one cause the issue).
IMHO worth some re-development and putting on Windows Market Place $$$ I'd buy.
Ben

aww, thats encouraging mate! Thanks!
not sure why it doesnt run on your devices? I ran it on my Samsung omnia which runs WM 6.1 - works fine.
I've also got a WM5 device...works fine on that. the issues are just the screen display!
I have been meaning to "start" the project again but just had no time at all. been so busy.

HELLO
T2 REMOTE TOUCH
Very nice program. I use it to do anything to my computer because I'm too lazy to get down of the bed. I use it when it was beta and the only bad thing was that he only had color mode for free
Anyway if you can manage to create a wireless network connection (AD-HOC) with designeted IP's it's going to work. I don't know about the port dough.
Anyway, I have windows XP, and I don't know very much about win7's configuration.
GOOD LUCK

voip works on lan not wan

Hello All,
XDAndroid 2.2.1 (fxr04)
After some trail and error I have CSipSimple app working as my voip wifi app on an HTC Touch Pro phone on my lan.
Problem: I can never get the phone to register to my LAN/server , remotely.
I have,of course tried all the extra 'proxy server',etc, settings.
I have two of these phones and they both register fine remotely using PortGo under WinMO so i know this is not firewall related.
I run into this same scenario quite a while back trying to use the native WinMo sipstack. It too, would work ok on lan but no wan. It appears the stack simply can not traverse nat correctly.Thus I had to use a thrid party(PortGo) app.
Note: I ONLY use this phone under wifi(I'm cheap).
Has anyone else gotten a reliable voip app for the Android phone?
Thank You,
Barry