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I bought att tilt today and want to know what's the best rom so far for it
Thanks
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow a little harsh huh? why the sour response?
Well, Doug is probably coming from some other forum where a new "Which is the best ROM?" kind of post is started each week. It is a natural question, but it gets old after a while.
In the Hermes thread for example, there are multiple kitchens for making ROMs, so everyone and his brother are putting out new ROMs constantly that suit their needs. Asking which is the best is kind of like asking which restaurant is best in San Francisco. There are good ones and bad ones, cheap ones and expensive ones, it is all a matter of taste.
At this point though, with three or so cooked ROMs out for the Kaiser, I think it might be a valid question. Most knowledgable people will have tried all three and come to some sort of conclusion.
Yeah really ! why would this piss anybody off ?
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wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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Really, a good way to find out what's best (for you) is to try them out. I know, everyone says that. But they say it for a reason.
A great place to find out before flashing is to hop into the individual threads for the specific ROMS and read what's included in each and what comments (good and bad) have been posted. There's only a few ROMs out at the moment, so that won't be hard at all.
Usually when anyone starts a thread like this they just want someone to throw out an easy "The best ROM is...". I am personally using the HTC stock at the moment. I like it for now, others don't. So, you'll have to decide for yourself.
Have fun finding out!
hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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My issue with the question is that if there truly was a "best ROM so far" available, it would be posted as such and probably stickied. The point is that there is no BEST, even with only 3 of them out there. Each is different.
I've tried all three ROMs and seem to be about the same. Only differences are the apps included, and storage space. Check them out and see for yourself.
Kaiser Roms, which is best?
I spent the last two days testing out all the variants of the ROMS out there, and there are pretty much only 4 English versions available.
Here you go, a nice summary of the results in one quick read, but i've not included the links to the files, some work for you
1. the stock HTC one - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe (uses WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620)
and then 3 or so (because he has sub versions to remove unnecessary programs) variants of the same ROM by Helmi:
2. helmi_Kaiser_1.57.000.1_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - a cooked version based on HTC WWE version but has newer WM6 CE base code (WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908)
3. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.02_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - another cooked version of HTC_WWE version but has selectable "activator" directory of cabs that the user can install as desired. Also uses same WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908 as above.
4. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.03_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - yet another flavour, but this one has virtually all extra programs removed in a good attempt at freeing up as much memory as possible, it also uses a newer version of WM6 CE OS 5.2.1921.
see Helmi's link for all the info. My hats off to you Helmi.
In the end, I decided to go with the standard version as released by HTC, as I didn't notice much of a difference myself. I have naturally upgraded various cabs and installed my ideal base set of apps to get the machine setup as I prefer. My decision to go this way was based on what I prefer and you should really try the ROMS yourself to make the correct decision, I didn't try every program with each version so perhaps i missed things.
I upgraded the Radio to version 1.27.12.17. -(this doesn't appear to make any difference to my terrible radio reception or the random dropping off of the radio link to GSM, neither does selecting the gsm option under band instead of auto). Thank god that I don't use 3G as there seems to be a real problem with the UMTS radio code. I just hope that I don't have a hardware fault, but I doubt it as numerous other people and links reflect similar issues to mine. We can only hope that HTC will release new RADIO code soon.
So, I wish you well in your endeavor to find "the perfect ROM".....
While I wouldn't have posted "best rom" question (as I agree, that is so subjective), that is a great help SAppie! Thanks!
Agree and Disagree
Not wanting to piss everyone off
I think the OP was requesting ROM test result and comparison, like SAppie comment, as I also agree there's no such thing as 'best ROM'.
Now, there're release with WM6.5 and others. Anyone can update this with newer ROM's comparison?
As a newbie in WM myself, some of the thread has 1000 pages .. to read all will be tough, but sometimes that's the only way. The FAQ and sticky is helpful as starting point for me ..
well i tried athineos os, hyperdragon III, life in 3d and now i will try 6.5 beta but so far the fastest is the athineos and it greaat
This is an old topic with no real constructive merit, so I'm closing it.
Perhaps this thread is what you're after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Thanks
Dave
Sorry for asking but everyone is a newbeeeee sometime, right
I just found this site and I really want to upgrade my HTC TyTn II with WM 6.1.
I understand that on this site aloooooot of people are writing there own application and changing the org. RAM etc etc.
I wounder WHAT RAM I should install, the official Microsoft 6.1 or...
Where to looooooook ?
Pleazzzz have faith and once more, I'm a beginner
since you are new....1st thing to do before asking a question is use the forum search function and/or go to the wiki page for your device most of your questions if not all can be answered by doing those two things...
I'm going to give you the best piece of advice I can. Don't forget the name GSLEON3. I have a feeling you might need him in the near future.
i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
Well, you won't be changing ANY RAM for years bud. No offense, but that would take a lot of address work to alter the ram alotment.
You're best friend is the wiki, & the second post on the page called Start Here.
Now I don't expect to see another question for at least 5 days to a week, becuase if you are that new, you've got a bit of reading to do.
Start with the basics & learn about roms, radios, & basic tools that make flashing & cooking possible.
DO NOT PLAY WITH THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you're not comfortable with a process or don't understand it, DON'T DO IT! Just like anything else, you're actions will have consequences, some are good some can be devastating. So start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Then go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
After reading all of the info there, then you can start asking questions for clarification without being royally flamed.
flushbeer said:
i would take the last one that came out... and everytime a new one is available -> flash it.
other possibility: start with the wiki.
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Ohh, & one last though, never trust a solution that is just flash it!
Red, read, read, understand...Then HardSPL before you even think of flashing anything.
sorry... forgot
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I thought that was clear.
OK here we goooiiiiinnnng to reeeeead and reeeeeeaaad an.......
Godnight & over and out
I learned everything I needed to know from here. Everything is extensive. With a little dedication and a little geekism, you'll figure it out
My RAM doesn't fit!!!!
I'm so sorry that I didn't get to chime in earlier but I was changing the RAM on my Tilt and totally screwed up trying to fit my Laptop RAM into my phone. I couldn't find the Wiki on how to fix it. Can I tether it using Active Sync?
Could someone have a look over what im planning to do and if im planning anything wrong let me know, thanks a lot. I upgraded my last orange tytn2 to the official HTC wm v6.1 a couple of weeks ago and encountered the dreaded screen lag problem. It was so bad and made by phone so unusable i gave up and called in orange care to bail me out.. broken screen, honest.
I have got a replacement now and still want wm6.1, i quite like some of the newer features, especially the threaded txt features. I have read all the forums and downloaded all the software (and have i noticed a fix for the wm6.1 lag problem that caused me so much grief two weeks ago).
This is what i plan to do....
1 Backup all docs and personal data.
2.copy the JumpSPL1.56-KAIS.exe to my device and run it (my last tytn had the white screen prob, this one will prob be the same)
3.unplug and replug the usb cable
4.flash with the HTC SPL 3.28
(or should i use this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922)
5.run RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship to upgrade the rom
6.reflash with HTC SPL 3.28 then reeboot
will the above process be ok and more importantly will it avoid the screen lag problems.
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(or should i use this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922)
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use that one, make sure you have done the procedure correctly. After that you have hard spl, and you can begin flashing any of the wonderful Kaiser roms that are available in this thread.
Now for my soapbox:
This information regarding proper flashing procedures is readily accessible in multiple locations including the wiki, and the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Please take the time to try to learn some of this by reading, and if you have questions about any particular part, please please please post in that thread instead of creating a new one. This place is getting messy in here (though that's partly due to all the wonderful chefs whipping out the new roms constantly...we appreciate your work guys!)
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will the above process be ok and more importantly will it avoid the screen lag problems.
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thats what are new hardspls are for: to get rid of screen freezes in wm6.1. Please read wiki and all important and relevant info before flashing. The track you have chosen is pretty much accurate, but posting a thread like this will get you scolded by the mods...
Thanks for your replies guys, and sorry to the mods if this posting has caused any problems in this forum.
Now for my soapbox:
This information regarding proper flashing procedures is readily accessible in multiple locations including the wiki, and the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Please take the time to try to learn some of this by reading, and if you have questions about any particular part, please please please post in that thread instead of creating a new one. This place is getting messy in here (though that's partly due to all the wonderful chefs whipping out the new roms constantly...we appreciate your work guys!)
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I just received my Kaiser a yesterday coming from being a long long time Wizard user. Before I even received it I began reading everything I could to be ready to flash.. If there is one thing i could comment on though is that it appears that in the past month or so the Kaiser Rom flashing process has been changing a bit. I mean a new official 6.1 was released, diamond roms are coming out, and over coming various radio problems.
That being said, the wiki probably needs to be examined and updated as much as possible in these changing times. Once I get kaiser ground underneath me, I will be more then glad to contribute, as that is what this site is about, developers helping other developers. For instance, the page about ROM Upgrading basically just says flash pofs hard spl 1.0. Yes the new jockyws hard spl just came out, but still...
I don't know.... Just throwing it out there..
Coming from a wizard, the kaiser it a entirely different beast.. I am glad i have put in the time to do some reading, and its good to see some over the old wizard cooks here, and excited to to test out some new stuff.
OK, heres the deal. I have a FUZE and want to flash it. As much useful information as there is on this forum, it is nearly impossible (as stated by many of the members here) to find anything in threads with 30, 50, 90 or even 300 pages. It just is not efficient. There is no good guide that has only constants (e.g., they all say you may need this version of SPL, radio, etc.). I would like some sort of UPDATED, concrete guide. I am willing to donate to whichever one of the developers handles this for me and I also think it would be hugely beneficial to the users of the forum. My hopes is that it becomes a locked thread so it cannot be polluted and it only stays a useful guide. The people on this forum are amazingly knowledgeable, probably the best on the net... There just needs to be organization and I'd really like to get that ball moving. Here is what I'd like
1) The fastest, cleanest, most stable ROM
2) The most efficient radio (I'm fine with my current signal strength, which radio does that equate to)
3) The LEAST maintenance, meaning internet settings for AT&T, proxies, settings, all the task manager junk that has to be done.
I would even take one of the cleaned up AT&T ROMS as long as it isn't as slow as a 500lb man in a 40yd dash.
I understand that creating ROMs is no easy task; However, being proficient in the business and technology world, I can bring a few things to the table. Inaccurate and disorganized information usually causes the collapse of many businesses and I feel that is the biggest downside of this forum. Just think about how hard it would be if your file cabinet of work was turned upside down and there was little to no organization? Someone from the outside trying to look for a file would have no clue where to start (e.g. looking at all of the thread names is quite overwhelming... [ROM] [ENG] [READY!|15 NOV] ROMeOS² v1.40.1 (19974.1.2.8|STABLE)). Noobs (including myself) have NO IDEA what any of that means until we start reading.
Therefore, if anyone is willing to help me get this started, I would gladly donate.
Thanks for listening, guys... I look forward to working with everyone.
Well, the first place to start is the Wiki specific to the Raphael. There you can find all the necessary info about the Raphael.
It seems you want to flash a ROM to your device. Right now there's only a handful available and you will have to try to see what best fits your needs. If you flash one, you don't like it, flash another.
If you read the Wiki you will see that you NEED to HardSPL before flashing a ROM. This is a must and I'm not sure where you're finding that it may be needed or not. Just HardSPL before you flash your ROM. And right now there's only 1 HardSPL, at least that I know of in this forum.
As for ROM naming/etc, go to the specific thread to find out more info. I understand the point about the overwheling messages that are here and many times there are just repeats of things that were answer before. However, everyone should take the time to read the sticky posts in the forum as they have very important information you need to know before you start messing with your device. I've been flashing ROMs for about a year now on my Tilt and recently move to the Fuze. A name as the one you referenced
"[ROM] [ENG] [READY!|15 NOV] ROMeOS² v1.40.1 (19974.1.2.8|STABLE", you should be able to figure most of it. It's a ROM, it's ENGlish, It's READY, release 15 Nov, and it's STABLE. The other info is specific to the person who releases it and you will find the info by reading the first 1-3 posts within the thread. What you wrote is the equivalent of reading something you don't have any idea about and you want to understand it all in the same sentence without doing some type of research. Not sure how that works.
The guys that releases these ROMs take their time to make sure all the necessary info for a specific ROM release is contain within the first 3 posts of a thread. It's the best place to gather all the info you need about a ROM.
Anyway, hope this helps you.
As has been said MANY times:
1) there is no BEST rom
2) there is no BEST radio
Each is measured subjectively based on your needs. Most of the information you need can be found in the threads related to HARDSPL, Radios, & the roms you're flashing.
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Is there a list of ROMs anywhere or can could people tell me what is available? I have spent hours and hours searching the Internet, searching this forum and I have only come up with a few and I know there has to be more than what I am finding.
The main reason I want different ROM is because I don't want my Tilt to lock up with my bluetooth anymore and hopefully my sound won't disappear making me reboot to get it back. Everything else is a bonus.
So any help is appreciated before I drive myself more insane than I already am.
(and no, I don't want to know which one is the best, I will figure that out on my own )
I really doubt you've searched, because there was a recent thread attempt to list them, and you'd have known about our WIKI.
We do not give out handouts. Put in the EFFORT.
Your phone shouldn't be locking up often with the stock ROM. If it is, there's probably something wrong with it or your bluetooth device or some crummy software you've got on it.
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I really doubt you've searched, because there was a recent thread attempt to list them, and you'd have known about our WIKI.
We do not give out handouts. Put in the EFFORT.
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Put in the effort? I have been doing this for 3 days now and have been up until 2:00 in the morning trying to do all of this and I get a message like this? I have never had someone be like that to me on a forum. Unbelievable. Nothing like being helpful.
Please do me a favor and close this, I would rather spend my days searching instead of this crap.
I flash roms more often then a Trench-coat wearing man in a70's porno I normally end up on blackstone, PDA ultimate or the vista one all three IMHO are rock soild stable and feature packed if you read the wiki which is sticked at the stop of this forum you will learn all you need to learn about unlocking the wiki also contains the links to all the patched and bug fixes as well as a huge number of add-on's
Closed, follow suggestions, read the wiki for Kaiser it has a comprehensive list of avaliable stock & cooked Roms.