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Single press device Lock

Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.

Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking

Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry

How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.

I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V

vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.

Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V

I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.

yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.

Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!

It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.

mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.

pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!

GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))

fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.

I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?

Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

PTT remap/fix

Good Evening
I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks

The PTT might be hard wired to the PTT hardware needed for ATT's push to talk, kinda silly really I don't see why they still push this I've yet to meet anyone on ATT who uses this feature, maybe one day ill run into a cunstruction worker who knows.

TazMan1688 said:
Good Evening
I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks
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I'd love to see a solution to this too. I tried the Tilt registry hacks that let you re-map the PTT button but all that did was disable the button completely. (Which is still an improvement because at least now I don't have the PTT message come up every time I accidentally hit that button...)

Black93300ZX said:
CONFIRMED, this is how to keep that annoying PTT message from coming up on American Touch Pro's (Fuze maybe? whatever).
Keep in mind, you can't individually map this button with this method, that may come later.
Step 1: Registry editor, remove HKLM/Services/PTT
Step 2: Create a key in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys called "40C2"
Step 3: Create a string within that key, titled Name with the value being "Button 6" or whatever
Step 4: Soft reset.
From this point on you can remove 40C2, but your PTT button will simply perform with a press what your send button performs with a hold (which can be remapped easily... Settings/Buttons/Button1(Hold)).
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10 chars..

I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.

TazMan1688 said:
I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.
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Um that is the easiest way right now.
And it does as B). Just change what Button 1 (Hold) to whatever you want and that's what your PTT button will act as.

Alright, its Button 1...awesome. Now lets see if I can find that setting ;-)
In settings/personal/buttons
...there is only an option for button 5, and button 5(hold). 1-4 do not show up there. How would I go about editing button 1's action?
Thanks alot

I found a program called AE BUTTON PLUS, it allows you to map any hardware button on the device. The PTT button is not listed by default so you need to "add button" it will then ask you to press the hardware button you would like to map, after that it shows up on the list and you can map it... I have found that adjusting long press setting causes issues, but tap and double tap work fine. I have tap disabled since I always hit the key by accident, double tap is Torch. Working fine so far. I believe you can even map individual keys on the keyboard in the same way.

I tried to use AE Button Plus(registered it), and had no luck creating an action for the PTT button. So I followed the registry ediit intructions, again..with no avail.
My PTT is disabled, which as previously stated, is better than nothing.
I would like to clarify two things. Does 40C6, and 40C7 relate to PTT on all devices, or is this a phone by phone basis? 40C6 could be PTT on a tilt, but the touch may be 33D4. Noobish question, but I'm not sure how this stuff works.
Also you said its "Button 1". Again, does this refer to hardware button # 1. Or is this just a random name we give it so we know which one to edit in the buttons menu?
So if I use 40c6, and 40c7 for "Button 1", and "Button 1(hold)"...it should work?
...I also used Button 6 & Button 6 hold as in the Tilt instructions. Same function.
I appreciate the assistance gang!

any1 have any luck?

If you want to remap the PTT button using a cab file (instead of manually doing reg tweaks) just look here: http://www.fuzemobility.com/ptt-remapping-revisited-application/
pretty simple but read the 'update' at the end

Long End Key remap

Hi. Suppose I just want to remap the long end key press button to something other than the HTC dafault. Do I need AEBPlus for that? I assume that would be a overkill for remapping just one button. The HTC interal app only allows to either display the quick list or make 4 other actions. I was wondering if I can change that to something else without using the AEBPlus app. I just wanted to run the comm manager rather than the htc options
Thanks

Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..

craigwillie said:
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
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Actually I don't need it working with the TouchFlo, as I don't use TF. I only want to remap the long end press button to the comm manager. Of course it would have been great to also map a long press on the Home button or the Back button but I think I read that's not possible even without TouchFlo ?

what no one answered ? wow i thought that's easy,a metter of registry or link change. quite disappointing.

I am also looking for a way to change the back button to run some other program...

How to assign a shortcut to EndKey, SendKey ....
Not tried myself on TP, but maybe it's useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322

Create a shortcut in your windows directory called long_end.lnk
whatever the shortcut points to will run when you long press the end key.
There are a few of these hard press shortcuts
long_end.lnk
long_send.lnk
long_power.lnk
long_ptt.lnk
short_power.lnk
short_ptt.lnk

I can remap all the buttons except the Long End. Somehow the Long End button is mapped to the phone Lock. Where can I disable that and allow for my own?

Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software

I cooked my own rom and I didn't put in long press end key. I assumed it wouldn't have installed any reg settings for it, guess I'll have to check. Thanks!

For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.

baub said:
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
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Yeah, I recooked the Long End Key Press in, but there isn't a custom selection part of it so that must be a different version of End Key software. It's ok not too important.

AEB
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.

Using my HTC Touch Pro. I am still unablet to map the Long press End Key to something other than the limited options that the HTC Long Press End Key program settings offer.
I simply wish to map the long press end key to run a different program. I tried the suggestion offered on this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616) but it doesn't work. I put a file called Long_End.lnk in the windows directory, soft reset the device and still it doesn't map to that. Only displays the HTC 'quick list'.
I am not running TF3D.
Anyhelp ? To map to any program I choose ?
Thanks

So no buddy managed to map the End button long press to some other program than the options that the HTC's prg in the settings allow ?
I want to remap the End key to open Phone Weaver Profiles which is much more useful than what the HTC Long End Pressapp offers.

nik3r said:
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
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That's not the full story ....
on ex: HTC HD
there are buttons:
"Green Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
"Home Key" -> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key" -> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel

Proto732 said:
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
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HI!
I'm another one that tried everything to remap the long end key without that HTC app and no solutions.
What we really need is to know how to disable that app from the system.
Anyone help us!

Lock TP without going to Home screen + bonus question

Hi,
I have a question about the default WM lock - is it possible to lock the device but keep the application that is running shown on the screen?
I use long press of the End key to lock the TP but it jumps back to Home screen after locking.
I know Gyrator has a feature that doesn't but I'm wondering if there is a simplier way to do this. Any registry tweaks can manage it?
Thanks for the reply.
PS: (this might seem stupid) Which button is the PTT button? I can see it in the Button settings menu but I can't figure out what to push to make the particular appl to run. Thx

ferus said:
Hi,
I have a question about the default WM lock - is it possible to lock the device but keep the application that is running shown on the screen?
I use long press of the End key to lock the TP but it jumps back to Home screen after locking.
I know Gyrator has a feature that doesn't but I'm wondering if there is a simplier way to do this. Any registry tweaks can manage it?
Thanks for the reply.
PS: (this might seem stupid) Which button is the PTT button? I can see it in the Button settings menu but I can't figure out what to push to make the particular appl to run. Thx
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So you want to be able to see the program running while your device is locked? I wouldn't know how to this because i just use the power button to put my device on standby.
BONUS!
If you look on the left side of your device, assuming you have an At&t HTC Fuze, the button under the volume up & down buttons and is marked "PTT" is the ptt button

fone_fanatic said:
So you want to be able to see the program running while your device is locked? I wouldn't know how to this because i just use the power button to put my device on standby.
BONUS!
If you look on the left side of your device, assuming you have an At&t HTC Fuze, the button under the volume up & down buttons and is marked "PTT" is the ptt button
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Yep, exactly - I need my device locked but see the app running. But it's not the same as standby, I use my power button for that as well.
Bonus - this was indeed a stupid question I'm too embarassed to say that I own a non-branded TouchPro. That's why I couldn't find the button. Ah well, thanks for the reply.

I use AE Button Plus, and map a quick double press of the "red/hangup" button to lock screen.
I'm using the stock T-Mobile UK version of the Touch Pro (MDA Vario IV), still with TouchFlo3D enabled and this works with almost all applications, leaving the application running and on screen (but dimmed).
Hope that helps!

please help after a lock cab and 3g cab or tweak

Hi before ppl have a go lol, i checked the forums but couldnt find anything,
if after 2 things
one is a lock cab that i can have a shortcut on the front screen, and also makes the phone screen sleep, instead of hitting start, lock and hitting the right button
and the other cab is to make the 3g only turn on when using the net, and then turn off and when im off the net and back to using g network
hopefully ppls will understand that, im english but my english is bad lol
thanks in advance

danjohnson19855 said:
Hi before ppl have a go lol, i checked the forums but couldnt find anything,
if after 2 things
one is a lock cab that i can have a shortcut on the front screen, and also makes the phone screen sleep, instead of hitting start, lock and hitting the right button
and the other cab is to make the 3g only turn on when using the net, and then turn off and when im off the net and back to using g network
hopefully ppls will understand that, im english but my english is bad lol
thanks in advance
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There is no need for a lock cab, as all you need to do is press the right-hand button ('hang up' button). This locks the screen and switches it off (it will show the locked screen if a button is pressed)
In regards to the 3G cab, there are several threads mentioning a "MoDaCo No Data" cab, try searching for that.

rp-x1 said:
There is no need for a lock cab, as all you need to do is press the right-hand button ('hang up' button). This locks the screen and switches it off (it will show the locked screen if a button is pressed)
In regards to the 3G cab, there are several threads mentioning a "MoDaCo No Data" cab, try searching for that.
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i really want a lock cab like the energyrom, i use the hang up key , but just want a one touch cab

Here is a shortcut to devicelock, you could use soft key or remap a button to it. I used the shortcut on the manila left soft key to lock without having to press and hold end key.