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Single press device Lock

Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.

Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking

Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry

How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.

I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V

vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.

Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V

I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.

yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.

Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!

It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.

mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.

pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!

GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))

fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.

I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?

Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

Slide2Unlock Replacement

I am in love with the functionality of Slide2Unlock but it seems to eat memory like crazy and cause weird issues on every ROM I have used (WizardG3).
Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?
I can't always be tapping the screen with my finger or taking the time to get the stylus out.

Hi Xoom, sorry I want to ask you a question instead answering your question.
You asked, "Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?"
Does it mean using Slide2Unlock, I could wake the phone from standby only by tapping the screen, without pressing any button?
Thanks.

Hi
Which version of S2U you are referring to? Version 1 or 2? V.2 now only occupy 1MB of RAM.

MDCT said:
Hi Xoom, sorry I want to ask you a question instead answering your question.
You asked, "Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?"
Does it mean using Slide2Unlock, I could wake the phone from standby only by tapping the screen, without pressing any button?
Thanks.
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Currently with slide2unlock (v2) Using the D-Pad you can unlock the phone or you can use the slider on the touch screen, both to bring the phone into an unlocked state (displaying the today screen)
I notice it runs with 1mb of memory. Maybe it's just a scapegoat along with Voicecommand running at 1mb but something is killing the performance on my phone and having it lock up all the time.
I think I just need a new/custom version of wm6.

Xoom said:
Currently with slide2unlock (v2) Using the D-Pad you can unlock the phone or you can use the slider on the touch screen, both to bring the phone into an unlocked state (displaying the today screen)
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But can it wake the phone from standby (screen completely off) only using the touchscreen?

MDCT said:
But can it wake the phone from standby (screen completely off) only using the touchscreen?
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No, Sorry for the confusion, I have to push the power button then use the d-pad or touch screen to unlock. If it were possible, I don't think I would like that solution, I figure the phone would be getting "touched" in my pocket all the time.

Xoom said:
I don't think I would like that solution, I figure the phone would be getting "touched" in my pocket all the time.
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I was thinking maybe only parts of the screen that is "touchable", so it's not always getting "touched" and would save some batt. And even if it's being "touched", it's still locked and it won't do any unwanted action... at least.
I guess, I'm getting paranoid with the button. But someone's confirming it:
"Naturally I set it to the power button, but after a while, that button got worn down and stopped "working" so I naturally set it to recognize any other button.
This experience has taught me the hard way, that its a good choice to have (or maybe even a necessity in some cases) that other buttons to wake the unit up in case of situations like this."
Taken from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315329
I know we could remap the button, however, it is still pushing the button. Eventually, it could wear the button off.

Su2u has a sweet config app translated to most languages, and has a lots of config options, look into that..

where is the Start - Settings - System Key Lock?

hi, i can't seem to find keylock application that locks all hardware buttons but power when device is on sleep mode. have you got it on yours? i had it on my old tytn II

do you have a
settings->buttons->lock ?

no. have you? i've got only Program buttons, Up/Down Control and backlight tabs there

hmm...you mean setting up a lock to turn off all keys until you hit Unlock then confirm by tapping the key on the screen?
Press and hold the "End" button and that locks the device.
It is configured under start>setting>Long key press.
MIGHT NOT be the thing you are meaning though.

no, you know when you pres power button phone goes sleep mode? there should be a setting where you can decide if you want to allow other hardware buttons wake phone from sleep or other wise.
currently which ever hw button i press phone wakes up i.e send (green) button, terminate call (red button) or action (round) button.
this is no good when phone in your pocket. a small touch to any of them wakes phone up. i thought it is standart wm option as i had it since wizard

Hmm, when i power off the only thing which will power back on is pressing the power button, opening the keyboard or removing the stylus?

I've just got a touch pro and when I power off, no other buttons will wake up the phone.
That being said, I still have my Tytn II and the Key Lock application is found under Start...Settings...System...Key Lock. The Long Key Press app is not what you're after.
It seems strange that your Touch Pro wakes up on any button push. Maybe you need to change a registry setting instead?

wierd ; on mine apart from those, any button powers it up. only config tool i used is advanced confing and there isint any setting regarding this on that tool

inspectorgadjet said:
Maybe you need to change a registry setting instead?
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do you know which key i should change?

On touch Pro there is no Keylock option in the settings.
Only way how to activate the device is to:
1. press power button
2. open the keyboard
3. take out the stylus
There is no config like on the HTC Touch/Diamond.
I've contacted Julien Schapman, vendor of advanced config and asked him to add this settings to his application.
this is his answer:
Ok I will look at it when I could get a Touch Pro.
Best regards,
Julien Schapman.
So I hope his new version will have this settings. This is really missing.
But maybe someone is able to export this registry path on the HTC Diamond:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\OEM\KEYBD
there should me something like
"KeyLock"=dword:1
Or maybe another. I don't know.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
very cool app to unlock and lock the phone.
Tested and works on touch pro.
I'll be replacing S2U2 with this!

nolovelust said:
hi, i can't seem to find keylock application that locks all hardware buttons but power when device is on sleep mode. have you got it on yours? i had it on my old tytn II
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It should be in the \Windows directory:
\Windows\Keylock.lnk
\Windows\Keylock.exe
Create a shortcut in \Windows\Start Menu\Settings

I don't have this in my HD2 - any ideas if it can be installed seperately?

No idea as I have an at&t Fuze and this is a RAPH/TP/Fuze forum You might have better luck if you posted a link to this thread in the HD2 forum? Also, an alternative to s2u2, check THIS thread (QuickShutdown)
n-Joie! (Enjoy)

KeyLock
eugene7 said:
I don't have this in my HD2 - any ideas if it can be installed seperately?
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I haven't KeyLock in my ROM by default too, but I found it on another forum after many hours searching in the Internet
Unpack it and put enywhere (in example: "Windows" or "Program Files" and run).
Greetings.

Re-map Home and Back to SoftKeys

I'm using Butler [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611 ] to use the extra functionality of the hardware keys ... the only thing missing for me now is the possibility to use the 2 top buttons of the touch pro [Home and Back] for the left and right softkey (that's the only thing I miss from the kaiser). Any ideas how to do it without AEB ?
And is there a program you can launch to go to the today screen?

I'd be interested in this also. Thus far Da_G's latest roms have been able to reprogram every button except volume, home, and back keys.
Unfortunately the Volume, Home, and Back keys give me the most trouble. I always keep my phone on vibrate and I never use the Home/Back buttons. Even a good way to simply disable these keys would be a start. I'd much rather be able to use my dpad without ending up at the today screen.
Although someone said they used AEB to remap the Home/Back buttons to ONLY function on a double tap.

i was just thinking about this. i noticed i could change long press for send and end as soft keys. not enough buttons on the device you know.

I also would love to be able to reprogram the home and back keys to be the left and right softkeys. There has to be some way to do it...

I did some more searching on this topic. Try DredSensor. It works for me so far.
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I'm using Butler [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611 ] to use the extra functionality of the hardware keys ... the only thing missing for me now is the possibility to use the 2 top buttons of the touch pro [Home and Back] for the left and right softkey (that's the only thing I miss from the kaiser). Any ideas how to do it without AEB ?
And is there a program you can launch to go to the today screen?
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If we can get the home, back button, set as left and right softkeys as well as set pressing the center button in as OK button then i would have zero complaints about my att fuze. Sometimes i turn my tilt back on just to use programs such as opera mini, life is so much easier with softkeys!

DarrenUtd said:
I also would love to be able to reprogram the home and back keys to be the left and right softkeys. There has to be some way to do it...
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Yes im sure everyone is aware of dredsensor which is what i have to use when running opera mini on my fuze. What we are talking about is setting the home and back button as softkeys for good for all apps by default and also having the center button as OK as well. Do we really need a home and back button anyways? I mean we have touch screen phones, i can drag my thumb to get to home screen and press the center button to go back if set to OK button.

No we don't need an Home and Back button. The home button works the exact same as the End key. The back button is iffy. While I don't use it much, I'm sure "some" people do. There are the occasional situations when the back button is useful.
If you make the Center button "Close/Ok", then you won't have a select button. What WOULD work is set the center button to default, but do an "Close/Ok" on Center Hold.
I wish we had all the buttons unlocked to do what we wish. Using Home/Back as softkeys aren't a big deal to me, BUT being able to at least disable them or remap them in games would be sweet. (yes I know about DredSensor... I'm talking about permanent).
Another thing I am aiming for is a "virtual D-pad" using the touch pad area around the center button. Allowing us to navigate simply by making contact to the "hotspots". This would at least fix the problem with using the Dpad in games without ending up at the today screen.
If we could offload the navigational functions to the touchpad... then we could remap the buttons up/down to launch programs or whatever (left and right too).
So Pressing the buttons on the touchpad could launch apps or be used as softkeys or whatever but touching the touchpad would navigate.
Here is the thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473023

The last couple of posts have been playing down my earlier suggestion to use dredsensor to remap the home and back buttons to be the left and right softkeys (the topic of this thread). I'm not affiliated with dredsensor in any way, but I wanted to clear up this issue.
Since version 1.1 was posted on 1/17, you can in fact remap the buttons as stated above. In your config.ini file, for the [Default] profile with WindowTitle=* and ClassName=*, you have the entries:
HardKey_Launch1=Key:SoftKey1​and
HardKey_Launch3=Key:SoftKey2​
I'm not sure what you guys mean by "permanent" or "for good for all apps by default", but with this configuration these rules should apply in any app, which would seem to be what you want. I've been using this for a few days now and it works for me in the applications I've used. Anyway, it's just a suggestion. Maybe give it a try and I hope it helps.

i followed your suggestion..but i find the behavior erratic..sometimes it looks like it just goes to sleep and the keys are back to normal, and then out of nowhere starts to run again :\

drcursor said:
i followed your suggestion..but i find the behavior erratic..sometimes it looks like it just goes to sleep and the keys are back to normal, and then out of nowhere starts to run again :\
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From what I've read, there could be problems if you have G-Scroll installed, or maybe on some specific ROMs. Maybe post the issues you are having so that the developer can fix it in the next version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472280&page=2

Home button = Red key

Hi,
Does anybody know a way to disable the red key going back to today screen before shutting down the screen?

option + red button to screen off and lock keyboard and touchscreen
option + red button again for screen on and unlock
also mapped hw button for screen off command could work

vlodeck said:
Hi,
Does anybody know a way to disable the red key going back to today screen before shutting down the screen?
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Nope.
And what sucks is theres no hacks to do this either. I can post a cab that will allow the side button to kill the screen. Years later and its still annoying.
This is the ONLY palm device that did this.
Supposedly it was a request by vodaphone to make the treo work similar to a regular cellphone where the end button takes you home first.
Who knows if any of that is true.

There's a registry edit to change this behavior in the 800w. Don't know if it'll work for the 750, but let me try to find the info...
EDIT: Found it.
HKLM\Software\Palm\Keyboard\
Change EndKeyAsHomeKey from 1 to 0