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Anyway to modify the hardware buttons

Is there a way to modify which apps the hardware buttons run?

There are reg keys to change the right softkey. I really want to change the voice dial one though. I never use it, but it'd be so nice to change it to something more useful like a task manager.

Which registry key exactly needs to be changed?
I'd like to be able to hook the two keys which are left and right of the 5-Way Navigation. Actually what are the official names for these keys?

aloshka said:
There are reg keys to change the right softkey. I really want to change the voice dial one though. I never use it, but it'd be so nice to change it to something more useful like a task manager.
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I tried my best to change the "Voice Command/Voicenote" key at the left side (the one below the volume up/down keys). No luck yet. See the last posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306794
Anyone else knows how to remap this key? And does anyone know how to remap the left- and right Softkeys?
EDIT:
Finally found the right tool for doing this. It's called AE Button Plus and it's great.
You can find it here: http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php

NO MORE PTT, BUTTON REMAPPED :) o

CONFIRMED, this is how to keep that annoying PTT message from coming up on American Touch Pro's (Fuze maybe? whatever).
Keep in mind, you can't individually map this button with this method, that may come later.
Step 1: Registry editor, remove HKLM/Services/PTT
Step 2: Create a key in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys called "40C2"
Step 3: Create a string within that key, titled Name with the value being "Button 6" or whatever
Step 4: Soft reset.
From this point on you can remove 40C2, but your PTT button will simply perform with a press what your send button performs with a hold (which can be remapped easily... Settings/Buttons/Button1(Hold)).
NOTE: This apparently doesn't work on all Fuzes, trying to work that out now. It worked with my pre-release, but I'll update this post if a better way is found. Apparently on at least 1 Fuze it only DISABLES the PTT button.

Bump, a few people have asked about this, so bring it up to the top.

Black93300ZX said:
Bump, a few people have asked about this, so bring it up to the top.
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any chance someone can make this a cab
edit: and there is a standard option to give the send button a hold program? nice

lbhocky19 said:
any chance someone can make this a cab
edit: and there is a standard option to give the send button a hold program? nice
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I don't have means to create a cab, nor do I still have the phone, so I couldn't help ya... It's really not difficult though, if you want just grab a registry editor like PHM and do those quick steps. Another note, I think you have to hard reset to get PTT functionality back. Or maybe replacing the PTT part of the registry will make it work again, not sure. I know soft resets and removing the 40C2 will not change it back to working PTT.

Black93300ZX said:
CONFIRMED, this is how to keep that annoying PTT message from coming up on American Touch Pro's (Fuze maybe? whatever).
Keep in mind, you can't individually map this button with this method, that may come later.
Step 1: Registry editor, remove HKLM/Services/PTT
Step 2: Create a key in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys called "40C2"
Step 3: Create a string within that key, titled Name with the value being "Button 6" or whatever
Step 4: Soft reset.
From this point on you can remove 40C2, but your PTT button will simply perform with a press what your send button performs with a hold (which can be remapped easily... Settings/Buttons/Button1(Hold)).
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FWIW, this does not remap the PTT button my Fuze. It disables it - which is definitely a plus because I can't stand the annoying PTT message that came up when I accidentally pressed the button - but it doesn't remap it to the same functionality that the Button 1 (Hold) has.

ITNV said:
FWIW, this does not remap the PTT button my Fuze. It disables it - which is definitely a plus because I can't stand the annoying PTT message that came up when I accidentally pressed the button - but it doesn't remap it to the same functionality that the Button 1 (Hold) has.
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Well, that's good to know... Perhaps the pre-release was different? Check if you can add another button to your available mappable buttons. Instead of deleting it leave the reg key there, then go to settings>map buttons or wherever it was. Is there a Button 6 there now?

Black93300ZX said:
Well, that's good to know... Perhaps the pre-release was different? Check if you can add another button to your available mappable buttons. Instead of deleting it leave the reg key there, then go to settings>map buttons or wherever it was. Is there a Button 6 there now?
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It shows up as available to map but if you map it to anything, it doesn't work. I tried press and I tried press-and-hold and I tried every registry key from 40C0 through 40CF. I have a feeling the TF3D is somehow managing the keypress actions but I'm not sure how. Hopefully once the Fuze is in full release someone can figure it out!

My fuze doesn't have button remap option
I think I've got an official release, and when I go to settings-buttons all I get is button 1 hold option, it's set to Voice Command, which is fine.
Advanced config has some soft key remap options, but ptt isn't in there.
I don't have any option for PTT/button 5 or any other. Has anyone tried the slueth pttfix cab that worked on the 8525 in great fashion?

cparkhorn said:
I think I've got an official release, and when I go to settings-buttons all I get is button 1 hold option, it's set to Voice Command, which is fine.
Advanced config has some soft key remap options, but ptt isn't in there.
I don't have any option for PTT/button 5 or any other. Has anyone tried the slueth pttfix cab that worked on the 8525 in great fashion?
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Well I had the same thing with my pre-release, button 1 = holding send. When I put the 40C2 key in there it linked the PTT button to "button 1", so both had the same function. Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better than seeing an annoying "Initialize PTT service?" message when I hit the button accidentally while playing teeter.

when i had the offical at&t rom, i couldnt find a way of remapping. but now that i've flashed romeos rom, it's automatically remapped to comm manager. so i can turn on my bluetooth, wifi, etc with 2 clicks, real convinent

omaralt said:
when i had the offical at&t rom, i couldnt find a way of remapping. but now that i've flashed romeos rom, it's automatically remapped to comm manager. so i can turn on my bluetooth, wifi, etc with 2 clicks, real convinent
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I'm finalizing my "lite" AT&T ROM which I will release as soon as I can acquire a Fuze and test it. It will (hopefully) have Voice Command mapped to PTT, and Comm Manager mapped to Long Press PTT.
I'm still working on the exact reg keys, and I've stripped out 70+ MB of junk, so the ROM should be pretty snappy.

NotATreoFan said:
I'm finalizing my "lite" AT&T ROM which I will release as soon as I can acquire a Fuze and test it. It will (hopefully) have Voice Command mapped to PTT, and Comm Manager mapped to Long Press PTT.
I'm still working on the exact reg keys, and I've stripped out 70+ MB of junk, so the ROM should be pretty snappy.
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Good (yet unexpected) to see you jumped ship from the Kaiser, I know a few people that are too attached to get a Fuze.

Black93300ZX said:
Good (yet unexpected) to see you jumped ship from the Kaiser, I know a few people that are too attached to get a Fuze.
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As soon as it was announced, I decided it was time to jump. I skipped the 8525 launch, and wore the hell out of my 8125 because, at the time, 3G didn't mean anything to me. However, the Fuze has improved on the Tilt is just about every way... I rarely "tilted" the Tilt anyway.

We, the end users of the world, salute you....
Next I'll be asking how to flash the rom and get the "traditional" black TF3D theme... lol
Thanks again!

If someone can figure out how to map it to be a camera button like the one on tytn Id be super grateful and could def make a paypal donation for the cause

I've tried this with my release Fuze and it doesn't work. It disabled PTT but it did not map that button to the same as button 1 hold. A button 6 does show up in the buttons menu, but when I try to map it to anything, nothing happens when I press it.

PTT Wont remapp
Thank for the start on the reg edit but I still cant re map the ATT Fuzes PTT Button. I got the PTT alert Msg to go away after I Deleted its reg. and Button6 now show in the button remapping menu, but No matter I assign to it, it wont work even after many soft restarts.
Any ideas?
Thx for help

Yea, a remap to camera button would be awesome.
Thanks.

NotATreoFan said:
I'm finalizing my "lite" AT&T ROM which I will release as soon as I can acquire a Fuze and test it. It will (hopefully) have Voice Command mapped to PTT, and Comm Manager mapped to Long Press PTT.
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Now that you released your ROM, could you post what changes you made to the registry for the PTT button?
Thanks...Brian

remap
how do i get into advanced config?

Long End Key remap

Hi. Suppose I just want to remap the long end key press button to something other than the HTC dafault. Do I need AEBPlus for that? I assume that would be a overkill for remapping just one button. The HTC interal app only allows to either display the quick list or make 4 other actions. I was wondering if I can change that to something else without using the AEBPlus app. I just wanted to run the comm manager rather than the htc options
Thanks

Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..

craigwillie said:
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
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Actually I don't need it working with the TouchFlo, as I don't use TF. I only want to remap the long end press button to the comm manager. Of course it would have been great to also map a long press on the Home button or the Back button but I think I read that's not possible even without TouchFlo ?

what no one answered ? wow i thought that's easy,a metter of registry or link change. quite disappointing.

I am also looking for a way to change the back button to run some other program...

How to assign a shortcut to EndKey, SendKey ....
Not tried myself on TP, but maybe it's useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322

Create a shortcut in your windows directory called long_end.lnk
whatever the shortcut points to will run when you long press the end key.
There are a few of these hard press shortcuts
long_end.lnk
long_send.lnk
long_power.lnk
long_ptt.lnk
short_power.lnk
short_ptt.lnk

I can remap all the buttons except the Long End. Somehow the Long End button is mapped to the phone Lock. Where can I disable that and allow for my own?

Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software

I cooked my own rom and I didn't put in long press end key. I assumed it wouldn't have installed any reg settings for it, guess I'll have to check. Thanks!

For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.

baub said:
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
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Yeah, I recooked the Long End Key Press in, but there isn't a custom selection part of it so that must be a different version of End Key software. It's ok not too important.

AEB
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.

Using my HTC Touch Pro. I am still unablet to map the Long press End Key to something other than the limited options that the HTC Long Press End Key program settings offer.
I simply wish to map the long press end key to run a different program. I tried the suggestion offered on this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616) but it doesn't work. I put a file called Long_End.lnk in the windows directory, soft reset the device and still it doesn't map to that. Only displays the HTC 'quick list'.
I am not running TF3D.
Anyhelp ? To map to any program I choose ?
Thanks

So no buddy managed to map the End button long press to some other program than the options that the HTC's prg in the settings allow ?
I want to remap the End key to open Phone Weaver Profiles which is much more useful than what the HTC Long End Pressapp offers.

nik3r said:
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
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That's not the full story ....
on ex: HTC HD
there are buttons:
"Green Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
"Home Key" -> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key" -> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel

Proto732 said:
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
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HI!
I'm another one that tried everything to remap the long end key without that HTC app and no solutions.
What we really need is to know how to disable that app from the system.
Anyone help us!

Fuze PTT button remapping problem

Before I start, I apologise if this has already been answered elsewhere, as I've spent about five hours trawling through threads looking, in vain, for a solution.
I have bought a new Fuze but the PTT button causes a problem with the aluminium case I bought for it. The problem is that the case is for a Touch Pro and the latch is right where the PTT button is (meaning the button is permanently depressed when the case is closed). It cannot be remapped in Settings/Buttons.
All I want to do is to be able to disable the button completely, or failing that make it an 'OK/Close' button. I have got rid of the PTT link but would greatly, greatly appreciate if someone could tell me what commands should be written in "short_PTT.lnk" and "long_PTT.lnk" to be able to do this. I've tried just leaving both blank but then the PTT button brings up an error message when pressed about not being able to find the shortcut.
Is there a way to achieve either of these solely using the registry, and without using third-party software?
Thanks for your time.

Here's full instructions on remapping your PTT button: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=598
To just disable it so it does nothing follow the steps at the beginning:
Using a registry editor delete HKLM\Services\PTT.
Next delete HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT.
Navigate back to the Windows directory and rename PTT to PTT2
Now create a new folder called PTT and set the properties as System and Read Only
If you follow all of those instructions and want to map it to close use this app and map it: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1249

Problem fixed
You're a great person, bugsykoosh. I had done the first part you suggested, but the second link - and use of a tiny program called Zap It - fixed it perfectly.
Thank you heaps.

Okay so what is the joke why does this work for EVERYONE, except me. I mean seriously. I followed the steps but nothing. I press the button and I get nothing at all except the noise that indicates the keypress was succesfull WHAT GIVES.

bugsykoosh said:
To just disable it so it does nothing follow the steps at the beginning:
Using a registry editor delete HKLM\Services\PTT.
Next delete HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT.
Navigate back to the Windows directory and rename PTT to PTT2
Now create a new folder called PTT and set the properties as System and Read Only
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This is overkill. You don't need to mess around with the PTT directory. If you just stop the PTT service from running, nothing will look in the PTT directory and its contents don't matter.
Just change HKLM\Services\PTT\Dll to an empty string and soft reset. The button will be completely inert. You can then remap it using AEBP or the short_PTT/long_PTT shortcuts, if you choose, or just leave it inactive.

Today
WMM,
If you change as you suggested, it looks like the long and short still work. I've remapped and did all the steps, but it looks like yours may be a little easier/cleaner. I'm curious, and I've looked extensively to no answer, but if I want the short press to just send my Fuze back to "Today" (in TF3D), is there a way to do that? If I press Start the first option is Today and this does exactly what I want. There's no shortcut that I can locate anywhere (and I'm sure it's my ignorance/technical inability) and the next step is to make a copy of that shortcut and name it short_PTT which I can handle. Any suggestions?

So, it isn't possible to map the PTT button from the Settings - Buttons screen? Looks like the method linked to above, with the short_PTT and long_PTT shortcuts, won't allow me to map the PTT buttons to work as the left and right softkeys.

As far as I know (which isn't very far, sometimes), the only way to get the PTT button to execute "Home" or the left/right soft keys is to use AE Button Plus. There may be applications that do those things that you can download (I know there are for things like toggling wifi and bluetooth, killing the current application, etc.) -- these are really tiny utility applications that are specifically intended for mapping to a button -- but I don't know of ones that do those particular things. (AEBP is able to do all those things, as well as giving you four mappable events -- single, double, triple, and long press).

okay seriously here do the links need to have special settings or anything. I mean what attributes should they have. Nothing works!

For the life of me, I can't remap my PTT button.
On a short press, it activates the voice command system.
On a long press, it activates the camera.
This seems to be from flashing NATF's ROM.
Following instructions above, I have no HKLM\Services\PTT or HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT in my registry editor.
I did the short and long_PTT/link and PTT folder in Windows. The links work there, but doesn't change what happens when the button is pushed.
I have AEButton Plus, but can't get it to add the PTT as a button.
Any suggestions where I can find in the registry what is making my PTT button act as it is? I'd rather have it do nothing than what it is doing now.
Thanks,
Chris

txemsdoc said:
On a short press, it activates the voice command system.
On a long press, it activates the camera.
This seems to be from flashing NATF's ROM.
Following instructions above, I have no HKLM\Services\PTT or HKCU\Software\HTC\PTT in my registry editor.
I did the short and long_PTT/link and PTT folder in Windows.
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Yes, I believe NATF did not add the PTT stuff from AT&T into his ROM; the instructions above are for the stock AT&T ROM. You'll have to ask NATF how to remap the PTT button using his ROM.

jro2020 said:
okay seriously here do the links need to have special settings or anything. I mean what attributes should they have. Nothing works!
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I'm not sure what you're talking about here. As I mentioned in my last posting just above this one, this probably only works in a ROM that supports PTT, like the stock AT&T ROM; if you're running something that doesn't support PTT, it would be a real surprise if "short_PTT" and "long_PTT" meant anything special, no? Assuming you are running the stock AT&T ROM, here's a step-by-step procedure for creating the short_PTT link to point to the Camera application using the built-in File Explorer.
1) Open File Explorer. If the drop-down box at the upper left says anything other than "My Device," tap the small down-arrow next to the label and then tap on "My Device."
2) Tap on "Windows" and wait a few seconds for the folder contents to appear.
3) Scroll down until you see "Camera" (the one that's 794K). Tap and hold that until the pop-up menu appears and then tap on "Copy".
4) Tap on "Menu" in the lower right, then "Edit", then "Paste Shortcut".
5) Scroll to the very bottom of the folder contents and you'll see "Shortcut to Camera" that was created. (The name may be truncated, depending on the size of the font and the screen orientation. Mine says, "Shortcut to Ca..." in portrait orientation. In any event, it will be the last thing in the folder contents.) Tap and hold on that until the pop-up menu appears and then tap "Rename". Then just type "short_PTT" to overwrite the existing name and hit return.
That's all you need to do. (If the application you want to run with the PTT button is in a different folder from \Windows, navigate there, tap-hold on the application executable, and select "Copy". Then navigate to \Windows and do steps 4 and 5 exactly as above.) This works exactly the same for the "long_PTT" shortcut.
If you do exactly that, does it not work? What happens if you tap the "short_PTT" shortcut in File Explorer? Does it start the camera?

Here is a link to a cab that will allow you to remap the PTT button: http://www.fuzemobility.com/ptt-remapping-revisited-application/

Remap PTT to launch phone Speed Dial?
I have disabled PTT so that I can use the button to launch programs - I just dont know how to launch phone speed dial - Does anyone know if there is a file that will launch speed dial that I can use to link to the PTT button?
Thanks!

pdafish said:
I have disabled PTT so that I can use the button to launch programs - I just dont know how to launch phone speed dial - Does anyone know if there is a file that will launch speed dial that I can use to link to the PTT button?
Thanks!
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if your goal is to map your PTT button to call a single person check this posting: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3635

Here is another source that gives you step by step instructions.
http://htcblogger.com/2009/06/07/ho...utton-on-your-att-fuze-htc-diamond-touch-pro/

Note that if you're using the stock Fuze ROMs, the updated ROM from HTC adds the ability to remap the PTT button without any registry hacks.

PerfAlbion said:
Note that if you're using the stock Fuze ROMs, the updated ROM from HTC adds the ability to remap the PTT button without any registry hacks.
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Can you post instructions as to how? I tried it already and the pulldown that shows you the available apps you can pick only shows PTT.
Best regards,
JD

So I followed the registry edit method, and created a file (not a folder) called PTT and things work great .... except ... when its on Airplane mode (Phone, Bluetooth and Data set to off) and I press the button (short or long) the PTT function kick off.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Anyway to change this behaviour?

jdomi99 said:
Can you post instructions as to how? I tried it already and the pulldown that shows you the available apps you can pick only shows PTT.
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Something's odd with your phone, then. Mine shows the full list of apps and options. I remapped PTT to VC without an issue.
Is it possible that you've got an application that's taking over the Buttons Control Panel? On mine, I had to remember to shut off SPB Pocket Plus's control over the buttons since it doesn't work with the Touch Pro line. When I first fired up the control panel, it listed no apps until I remembered that I had Pocket Plus running and turned of that feature.

Re-mapping keys / Creating or re-assigning keyevent

OK, I've looked around but can't find an answer. Or at least an answer that I can understand. Basically what I'm trying to do is add the ability to quit/exit an app. I've read all about the differing opinions on quitting an app versus pressing back. However, just for my own self-teaching purposes, I want to learn how to do this. I'd like to be able to long-press or double tap a key to either immediately exit an app, or bring up an alternate pop-up menu that allows you to choose an action.
I am thinking specifically in relation to the Browser. The quit option was more necessary pre-CM6 because often times, it would take forever to load the home screen after pressing "home" in order to stop using the browser. A simple exit/quit option that some apps have, usually acts much quicker. Everyone knows that if you've been browsing through a bunch of webpages, hitting the back button repeatedly is a pain in the ass. The other option is to hit menu-->windows-->then close all the open windows-->then hitting the back button once the new window pops up because browser automatically opens a new page once all open windows have been closed.
Another annoyance is not being able to quickly get to your home page. Is there a way to remap/reassign/whatever, keys so that on long-press or double-tap of say, menu, or trackball, a menu pops up which has a "exit/quit" option and a "home page" option?
Another option is to add to the menu (when you hit menu), a "quit/exit" or "homepage" option.
Any help would be appreciated.

So much for a "supporting community". Way to help each other out.
What your trying to do should be located in the /system/usr folder. It has the key information you are trying to edit.

bubonik said:
So much for a "supporting community". Way to help each other out.
What your trying to do should be located in the /system/usr folder. It has the key information you are trying to edit.
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Yeah, most people are probably trying to figure out a way to tell me I posted in the wrong section or that I need to use the search function. Thanks for your answer but I am familiar with the /system/usr files...I don't see anything in there relating to an action that quits/exits an app. Is there a specific action that is called when someone presses menu while using an app, and the menu brings up options including quit/exit?

Really? Nobody?

The keymap files are stored in /system/usr/keylayout, open them up and have a look at the things you can assign to keys.
Pull-edit-push the correct version for your handset hardware and reboot, changes will take effect. Obviously Magics are sapphire-keypad.kl and G1s are one of the trout files. Most G1s are trout-keypad-v3.kl though you can confirm your specific hardware version with getprop.
Have a search for "keymap" and "keylayout", you'll find there's already a bit of work been done of this, for example this auto key-changer.

I appreciate the help but I guess I'm not explaining myself properly. I have looked at the files in /system/usr/. I know how to remap a key so that, say...volume down = pause music, or change the menu key to have it end a call if I wanted...I know I'm not using the correct terminology all the time but when looking at the various .kl files, there are various "actions" that can be attributed to a particular key. For instance, keys 107 & 62 = Endcall, key 158 = Back, key 10 = the number 9.
In the column next to the numerical keycode in each of the .kl files, there is an "action" that results from pressing the particular key. The action I am looking for is a "quit" and/or "exit" action to apply to a particular key. Let's say I wanted to have key 231 in the sapphire keypad, kill the app I am using. Right now, pressing key 231 = CALL button. Is there a keyevent such as Kill_app or something to that affect that I could put in place of the CALL action so that key 231 = Kill app?