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PR: ageet releases the new AGEphone Mobile 2 Softphone for Windows Mobile Devices

Hey everybody! I've been around in the community for quite a while now and today I've got something for you if you have been looking for a decent Windows Mobile Softphone for a while now and have given up on the ones out there... cause what were your alternatives?
Fring: Nice protocol support, but only one VoIP provider and Frankenstein GUI... hardly a softphone.
SJphone: In beta for like... 2 years now? The company is gone and so is all hope of seeing a version that you can actually use without feeling a major pain in the...
Skype Mobile: Not much need to even start about them, but apart from not supporting SIP it's slooow, sloooow... and did I mention slow? Probably one of the most half assed desktop ports around.
Xlite: Discontinued and hopelessly outdated... does it even run on WM2003?
Windows Mobile 6: Good one! As in... joke!
So you see, there's bad and worse to choose from, but fear the not! A small Japanese company named ageet Corporation (that would be us) has come to the rescue with AGEphone Mobile 2! It supports Windows Mobile 5 and 6 not only in the Professional but also Standard Edition. It's ready for you to download at http://www.ageet.com/files/AGEphoneMobile2.CAB OR http://mobileage.notlong.com from your phones. For all of you who can't decide that quickly feel free to take a look at our...
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Press Release
(with nice colorful pictures at http://www.ageet.com/us/news/2008.02.08-agephone-mobile-2.0-release.htm)
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Kyoto, Japan --February 2008
ageet Corporation, the experienced Japanese producer of VoIP software products such as the Vista Sidebar and Google Sidebar VoIP Gadget "AGEphone Gadget" and possibly the world's smallest and lightest VoIP engine "microSIP Stack", today released a completely revised version 2 of "AGEphone Mobile" softphone. This program can be used to make VoIP phone calls on a PDA or Smartphone that is based on Windows Mobile 5.0 (for Pocket PC or Smartphone) or Windows Mobile 6 (Standard or Professional) and utilizes the fully SIP compatible VoIP engine “microSIP Stack” developed by ageet, which is extremely small, fast and therefore suited for mobile devices. AGEphone Mobile 2 has been enhanced to also support keyboard-only control on devices without a touch screen and has been optimized for portrait and landscape mode on a wide range of screen resolutions, so devices such as HTC MTeoR, AT&T 852, Motorola Q9 and many more are capable of taking full advantage of the features the program has to offer.
The dynamic interface went through a major overhaul to guarantee easy and finger-friendly use of the product. Whether AGEphone is installed on a touchscreen device or one limited to keypad input, navigation through the softphone’s GUI is quick and fluid. Context sensitive menus change according to what the program is currently doing, mapping the best action to the soft keys of the device and making it unnecessary to navigate through endless sub-menus. On touchscreen devices, there isn't much need for a stylus because most of the interactive buttons can be pressed with your finger.
When dialing a number, the user is supported by an intelligent auto complete function, and recent incoming or outgoing call's numbers are quickly accessible by a single click. Numbers that are inputted scale themselves to screen size to guarantee best readability. Both in portrait or landscape mode the available space is being used to its best.
AGEphone Mobile 2 offers several special functions such as the capability to use multiple VoIP services at once, essentially making yourself accessible through multiple phone numbers. It also introduces a Provider QuickSwitch with which the user can switch between his VoIP services by simply pressing a key or tapping the screen. This allows fast and easy selection of the most suitable service when placing a call - the best choice is just a click away.
Take advantage of the different profiles you can set your Agephone to. Have your device automatically answer an incoming call as if you pressed the "accept" button yourself. If you're away from the phone, send all your incoming calls straight to the answer machine. Even reject all calls if you're feeling the inclination to. The choice is yours to make just by pulling up your menu.
Furthermore AGEphone now offers a new power management section which allows you to control energy consumption. You could for instance keep your device’s wi-fi connection from automatically shutting down or advice AGEphone to activate wi-fi on startup.
AGEphone Mobile 2 now also utilizes the device’s integrated phone book application, allowing the user to instantly access previously added contacts and call them by VoIP on the spot.
The settings menu has also been completely revised. It offers clearly structured categories that are accessible by both keys and stylus, and assists the user with auto completion and preset values.
The "AGEphone Mobile 2" softphone can currently be purchased online via ageet Corporation's homepage, http://www.ageet.com/us/download.htm. The purchase price is $35 USD. Users who purchased "AGEphone for Windows Mobile 5.0" can get an upgrade for free. A free trial version is also available, and ageet offers customized OEM versions for interested business customers.

Orbit 2 ------- Static Navigation

Can anyone confirm if the Static Navigation on the gps chipset is ON or OFF ?
Or if the setting can be changed??
Thanks,
Burn

sabre3487 said:
Can anyone confirm if the Static Navigation on the gps chipset is ON or OFF ?
Or if the setting can be changed??
Thanks,
Burn
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Static navigation is a "feature" of the Sirf III chip and the orbit 2 does not have this chip ...
TDO

TDO said:
Static navigation is a "feature" of the Sirf III chip and the orbit 2 does not have this chip ...
TDO
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Static navigation may be a "feature" of the Sirf III chip, but the main reason for that question might be the effect of "not changing the NMEA-position by minor movements" of the device.
Noticeable by movements under 2 Km/h during slow walking or "geocaching".
An the Qualcomm in the Polaris eg. O2 Orbit-2 HAS THIS EFFECT!
Name it as you like.
We ask for a possible setting (firmware or registry) to DISABLE this feature!

Static Navigation on Qualcom?
How about the solution for the O2 Orbit2 Qualcom Static Navigation Problem? I like my Orbit2, but the internal qualcom GPS chip sucks for geocaching. If you use a geocaching tool like Beeline GPS, all movements under 5 km/h are freezed. This ist not acceptable for geocaching.
Who knows a solution to disable this behavior? I don't like it to carry an additional bluetooth GPS reciever if I walk for a geocache.
Regards.
Frank

I´ve used "aplsirf" to set static navigation off.... it was successfully....

I keep seeing people that say they have disabled it with that tool but can't see how it would work.
Have you noticed a significant difference in the position changes?
From what I can gather its something Qualcomm are going to have to help with but they aren't allowed.
....from the injunction summary
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
BROADCOM CORPORATION,
Plaintiff,
v.
QUALCOMM INCORPORATED,
Defendant.
_______________________________
AND RELATED CROSS-ACTION
"I. The ‘686 Patent.
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the defendant Qualcomm
Incorporated (“Qualcomm”), any of its subsidiaries, and their officers, agents,
servants, employees, and attorneys, and those persons in active concert or
participation with any or all of them who receive actual notice of this Permanent
Injunction (all of said individuals and entities being referred to herein as
“Qualcomm Parties”) are hereby permanently enjoined from infringing or inducing the infringement claim 3 of U.S. Patent No. 6,847,686 (“‘686 Patent”), until the
expiration of the patent, by:
(a) making, using, importing, selling, and/or offering to sell in the United
States the MSM6275, MSM6280, MSM6550, MSM6800, MSM7200, MSM7500,
and MSM7600 baseband chips, or any device not more than colorably different
therefrom (collectively, the "'686 Infringing Products"), or any device that includes
any '686 Infringing Product (including, without limitation, cellular telephone
handsets, Form Factor Accurate ("FFA") devices, and Subscriber Unit Reference
("SURF") devices); and/or
(b) assisting others in making, using, importing, selling, and/or offering to
sell in the United States any '686 Infringing Product and/or any device that
includes any '686 Infringing Product, by engaging in activities including, without
limitation, the following: (i) advertising, marketing, or otherwise promoting '686
Infringing Products and/or any device that includes any '686 Infringing Product;" and so on.

GNSS Internet Radio and Built in GPS

Hello,
I am new to the forum and also the owner of an HTC Fuze. I have been playing around recently with the GPS on the phone and got me thinking. I live in NY and we have a CORS network of gps base stations that are fed by the use of ntrip.
I was wondering if their was any way to use the gps signal on my phone and the connection to this CORS network to give me sub inch accuracy on my phone...then not sure what I would do with it then. But I do live on a farm and I would like to see some type of precision agricultural use.
I guess I need a way to have the GPS on the phone talk with the GNSS internet radio and then give me spot on guidance and such.
Please let me know your thoughts or if I need to explain better.
Thanks,
Clayton

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bump. Any ideas? Anyone

Great idea cwrisrey !
That will save the cost of a geodetic device, which is many times the cost of a Fuze. Further, it will lead the accuracy of the buildin GPS into millimum class.
Not dig into this further, would you go further to tell these:
Is that CORS data encrypted?
Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
Once again, great idea. Please do remember to update this thread once you got any progress. Thanks.

More info
Hello wg5566,
This site would probably answer alot of your questions clearer than I could:
http://www6.nysdot.gov/spiderweb/frmIndex.aspx
* Is that CORS data encrypted?
-I don't believe so, I think that it is just a form of compression, to distribute across the internet.
* Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Yes, the NYS CORS anyway. It accessible from the public internet (although they require you to register with them) But I believe there are other free streams. I also believe it was modeled after being able to be sent threw GPRS.
* Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
-I believe the ntrip is based on a GNU, I think the source code is available. http://igs.bkg.bund.de/index_ntrip_down.htm
Windows CE version:
http://www.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/crgb/gsr/downloads/installGNSS.CAB
Please, let me know your thoughts...
Thanks,
Clayton

My fast thoughts:
First make sure there is no satisfied freeware currently available for WM.
If so please ask a moderator to move this to the development & hackings section. And Add tyis sentence on the title: Call for developers for revolutionary GPS app!
I'm sure somebody here can develop this. You know the geodetic device was invented many years ago with very weak profiles comparing to current WM devices. The hardware on our phone should be capable to deal with these calculations, and the WM Pro platform should be capable to support such an app. Anyway it should not be a biggy for many masters here. But it is a biggy for gps users with high accuracy demand for any reason.
Edit: Did you try install that wince cab on your phone? I think some of WINCE apps can just run on WM. Please backup your data first.
Edit2: I tried to install it on my device, at first it did not show up in start menu, then I found the cab just put files and shortcut in the folder names in French. But there is no registry involved in the cab. Only three files. And then program UI itself is in English. Just run the executable from the folder will go right out of the box. So please try it. I did not try to connect & loggin yet, due to not registered account.
Edit3: Looks like the cab is only access the data from internet, convert the data format and export the data, but we still need a geodetic/gps software to process/use the data.
Disclaimer: I attatched these three files for the only purppose of exchanging software developement infomation. Anybody if download it please do not use it for any purppose other than this. Thanx.

Some thoughts on the subject
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any software capable of doing this. My idea is that it should be possible to accomplish this goal, using a combination of existing tools (which would be really cool!).
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: http://lefebure.com/software/).
More searching revealed a (dead?) project on codeplex: SharpGPS. It's an unfinished demo. It does however seem to be designed to do exactly what we're suggesting in this thread.
My idea: Completing the WM version of SharpGPS with parts of GNSS Internet radio / lefebure NTRIP client should result in a tool that's capable of upgrading a WM devices' gps signal to sub-meter accuracy through RTK/DGPS corrections over NTRIP.
Any ideas / suggestions about this?

It's already been done for the commercial market
Land surveyors, construction companies, and farmers use RTK GPS and RTK GNSS correction services on a regular basis. Some are free and some are paid subscription. They can be either NTRIP protocol with casters or individual TCP or UDP connections. Examples of software available are Carlson SurvCE and MicroSurvey. Read Carlson's support site for how they deal with the data flow using such networks on SurvCE (Windows Mobile and CE).
I have worked in land surveying using such equipment, and it generally requires dual frequency receivers, RTK corrections, and high quality antennas to achieve 1-2cm 95% CI horizontal precision. The current GPS chips in cell phones are only single frequency and so the best you could expect under ideal conditions is 2'-3' precision using some form of differential correction like WAAS or beacon or DGPS via NTRIP. Under average conditions, the precision will likely be in the 10-20' range. The dual frequency receivers take care of the large errors caused by radio waves traveling through the ionosphere.
Due to the limitations of batteries, antennas, and space for more chips in cellphones, the future of location accuracy will likely include some combination of GPS/GLONASS and cellular radio signal frequency timing calculations from cell towers. True Position, with its U-TDOA technology, is one example of measuring the time differences of cell phone radio waves using cell towers with known coordinates. Rumors (from surveying journals) have it that there are current patents in place that can allow for sub foot precision using such methods when sufficient cell towers are present for multilateration.

Has anyone found success on this topic? WM or Android...

Would be very interested, since there is a free NTRIP feed available in Switzerland... anyone?

*bump* it up

Been there still trying. Problem is no carrier phase off internal gps.

Grimli said:
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: /lefebure.com/software/).
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Lance lefebure is a really cool guy I'm sure he wouldn't have any problem building a wm version but it is going to takea lot more than that to get rtk to a cell phone.

Very good ,thanks.

Ed hardy bikini said:
Very good ,thanks.
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If you are confused just ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. I am in the ag industry and deal with RTK networks and different ways of connecting them and tons of different gps units on a daily basis.

Look at this:
http://stakemill.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/ashtech-mobile-mapper-100-supports-esri-arcpad-10-0/
and this:
http://www.ashtech.com/-2359.kjsp?RH=1272644205746&RF=1270806507068
Is that still a phone !?

wg5566 said:
Look at this:
Is that still a phone !?
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Nope PDA with support for external GPS with a builtin reciever that even sees glonass satellites (russian constelation). That was made specifically to do RTK mapping. It does have a GSM radio for data to connect to the cors.

Phone positioning using CORS
To perform a CORS (Network Reference correction we need a GGA stream from the GPS in your device. This allows us to remove the anomalies and provde the correction stream. As phones use a sirf II chip or similar they do not have input capability to output the NMEA stream to achieve this.

This one works great! it will connect to an Rtk receiver and get the nmea string from it or will use the internal GPS to be able to register on the CORS network. It will then stream the corrections over Bluetooth to a receiver or even a repeater radio. It won't however correct the internal GPS. http://antrip.dyndns.biz/Home/DownloadTrial

Accelerometer, GPS help required?

Hi there,
I need a computer scientist with ability to write algo's for accelerometers/ gyroscopes in mobile phones.
I have a team of developers working with mobile devices, but require this work done to implement movement recognition within a mobile handset.
The device must understand more than stationary device vs movement, we require walk, run, idle car, acceleration, deceleration, integration with gps for more accurate positioning, vibration etc.
Is this something you can help with? please send me a message
Project price offered.

[Q] GPS position update frequency on WP7 - anything faster than 1Hz?

My Samsung Focus only gets GPS position updates once per second (1Hz). At 100kmph (~62mph), you've already moved ~28meters or 91 feet. Thats pretty inaccurate.
Are there any WP7 phones with built-in GPS that update more frequently than 1Hz?
$40 external Bluetooth GPS units update at 10Hz and some wired usb units update even faster than that. But Microsoft isn't supporting the SPP Bluetooth profile even with Mango update and I see no way to communicate with a generic USB device through the micro-usb port cause you don't get native access to write a driver. So no luck getting external GPS working with the current framework
I'd like to build a list of the GPS update frequency of the various phones out there. Hopefully they are not all using the same crappy GPS chip...

10 Hz GPS update will drain your battery much faster... Also, GPS software have some interpolation algorithms. From my own experience with Navigon 3.0: I very like WP7's default GPS accuracy.

Thanks.
I don't care about battery life though; my scenario has power cable available (non-hand-held scenario).
The compass and accelerometer sensors are available on my device but unfortunately the Samsung Focus does not have a gyroscope.
Accelerometer and compass samples at 50Hz, but they are fairly noisy. The new Mango/7.1 Motion API should help filter some of that noise and maybe I could get a reasonably accurate equivalent of a 2Hz GPS with some tricky math.
Double the accuracy is double the accuracy!

BTW, for what kind of tasks you need this accuracy? As I said before, Navigon 3.0 (see corresponding forum) works very fine and precisely, as a standalone Garmin, for example (what is internally also WinCe device ).

I'm not doing GPS maps. Everybody's done that Mine is more of a real-time motion analysis and visualization. I don't want to give away too many details cause I don't want someone to beat me to the punch. I do know that nobody has an app that does what I want on the marketplace yet.

OK, it's up to you. Take a look to my advice : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15982827&postcount=574
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Oh cool. I wonder if mine is set to 1000 impliying 1Hz updates. 500 would be 2Hz updates.
But I reckon when submitting an app to the marketplace you're not allowed to edit the registry