Orbit 2 ------- Static Navigation - Touch Cruise General

Can anyone confirm if the Static Navigation on the gps chipset is ON or OFF ?
Or if the setting can be changed??
Thanks,
Burn

sabre3487 said:
Can anyone confirm if the Static Navigation on the gps chipset is ON or OFF ?
Or if the setting can be changed??
Thanks,
Burn
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Static navigation is a "feature" of the Sirf III chip and the orbit 2 does not have this chip ...
TDO

TDO said:
Static navigation is a "feature" of the Sirf III chip and the orbit 2 does not have this chip ...
TDO
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Static navigation may be a "feature" of the Sirf III chip, but the main reason for that question might be the effect of "not changing the NMEA-position by minor movements" of the device.
Noticeable by movements under 2 Km/h during slow walking or "geocaching".
An the Qualcomm in the Polaris eg. O2 Orbit-2 HAS THIS EFFECT!
Name it as you like.
We ask for a possible setting (firmware or registry) to DISABLE this feature!

Static Navigation on Qualcom?
How about the solution for the O2 Orbit2 Qualcom Static Navigation Problem? I like my Orbit2, but the internal qualcom GPS chip sucks for geocaching. If you use a geocaching tool like Beeline GPS, all movements under 5 km/h are freezed. This ist not acceptable for geocaching.
Who knows a solution to disable this behavior? I don't like it to carry an additional bluetooth GPS reciever if I walk for a geocache.
Regards.
Frank

I´ve used "aplsirf" to set static navigation off.... it was successfully....

I keep seeing people that say they have disabled it with that tool but can't see how it would work.
Have you noticed a significant difference in the position changes?
From what I can gather its something Qualcomm are going to have to help with but they aren't allowed.
....from the injunction summary
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
BROADCOM CORPORATION,
Plaintiff,
v.
QUALCOMM INCORPORATED,
Defendant.
_______________________________
AND RELATED CROSS-ACTION
"I. The ‘686 Patent.
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the defendant Qualcomm
Incorporated (“Qualcomm”), any of its subsidiaries, and their officers, agents,
servants, employees, and attorneys, and those persons in active concert or
participation with any or all of them who receive actual notice of this Permanent
Injunction (all of said individuals and entities being referred to herein as
“Qualcomm Parties”) are hereby permanently enjoined from infringing or inducing the infringement claim 3 of U.S. Patent No. 6,847,686 (“‘686 Patent”), until the
expiration of the patent, by:
(a) making, using, importing, selling, and/or offering to sell in the United
States the MSM6275, MSM6280, MSM6550, MSM6800, MSM7200, MSM7500,
and MSM7600 baseband chips, or any device not more than colorably different
therefrom (collectively, the "'686 Infringing Products"), or any device that includes
any '686 Infringing Product (including, without limitation, cellular telephone
handsets, Form Factor Accurate ("FFA") devices, and Subscriber Unit Reference
("SURF") devices); and/or
(b) assisting others in making, using, importing, selling, and/or offering to
sell in the United States any '686 Infringing Product and/or any device that
includes any '686 Infringing Product, by engaging in activities including, without
limitation, the following: (i) advertising, marketing, or otherwise promoting '686
Infringing Products and/or any device that includes any '686 Infringing Product;" and so on.

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Why no answering machin ?

as i heard the mechanism of ppcs cant accept any answering machin ...
is that right ? why ?
Probably due to some government regulations of sort, or some intervention of the carriers. The same reason I guess why you cant get a vocoder for the ppc.
As fun as it would be to speak in a robot voice to your m8's I'm not sure if we can, due to the same limitations.
Saying that, anyone found a vocoder for ppc ?
Actually this this is not true for all phone edition PPCs.
Gigabyte g-smart comes with a built in answering machine and 'background sound - alibi' software, and I think there are others too, but HTC models so far have hardware separation between phone and PPC voice systems.
Even despite that there is at least one company (I can't remember their name or site, but they were mentioned here so pleas search) that successfully made a commercial answering machine software that reportedly works well on most devices.
I seriously doubt there is a government regulation on the subject as I read that recording conversations you are part of is allowed in Europe and most of the U.S. (without informing the other party), but the cell companies stand to loose a lot of money from their voice mail services.
That is the same reason some cell co. don't offer models with WiFi - so customers will have to pay for GPRS / 3G.

i-Mate ULTIMATE 9502 GPS is ASSISTED!!!

These are MSM7200 Data Sheet:
http://www.ent.eetchina.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf?SOURCES=DOWNLOA D
http://www.qctconnect.com/products/gpsone.html
• Next-generation gpsOne ® Assisted-GPS solution, with an enhanced GPS engine for greater sensitivity and faster start times
• Enhanced filtering software optimizes GPS accuracy and availability for tracking and satellite navigation applications
• Full integration with JAVA and BREW-based development environments to support commercially deployed location services
• Support for MS-Assisted and MS-Based modes, and Standalone GPS mode which enables off-network support
• Support for UMTS Control Plane, GSM Control Plane and OMA SUPL 1.0 User Plane Assisted-GPS protocol
• Supports multiple modes of GPS, inclusive of standalone, MS-Based, MS-Assisted, Hybrid, and gpsOneXTRA™ Assistance
• Enables enhanced standalone GPS through gpsOneXTRA Assistance
• Supports – 160 dBm tracking sensitivity
• Standalone TTFF Hot, Warm Cold (1s/29s/35s) respectively
• Compatible with Qualcomm's QPoint Location Based Server as well as 3GPP and GERAN compliant location servers supporting UMTS control plane and GSM control plane and OMA SUPL 1.0
So,from that spec, i-Mate ULTIMATE 9502 and all MSM7200 based gadgets must have Assisted GPS feature as well as gpsOneXTRA™ Assistance. But, mine is not assisted nor have gpsOneXTRA™ Assistance.
The QUESTION IS: How to enable that feature?
YEah mine took ages to acquire sattelites. I bet ts another 'optional' software implementation for the MSM7200 that I-Mate didn't bother with like graphics drivers
Sign a petition!!!
how about if we make a site like HTC Class Action,make a petition and force imate to make our so called "ultimate" device become the true ULTIMATE as advertised? do lawsuit or something like that... or all the gurus and programmer here develop the driver and enable all the feature that supposed to be enabled...
Coz, we pay for it.. We must get it... just like Kaiser case...
9502 is not cheap, and we MUST make it ULTIMATE!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Kaiser class action get absolutely nowhere?
And making drivers takes a lot of time and money. It's taken all this time with the Kaiser and the people trying to develop it have only really scratched the surface.
True true...
yup,you're right,some guys on forums.imate.com mentioned the same... HTC doesn't bother to do anything yet... so does imate... sigh...

GNSS Internet Radio and Built in GPS

Hello,
I am new to the forum and also the owner of an HTC Fuze. I have been playing around recently with the GPS on the phone and got me thinking. I live in NY and we have a CORS network of gps base stations that are fed by the use of ntrip.
I was wondering if their was any way to use the gps signal on my phone and the connection to this CORS network to give me sub inch accuracy on my phone...then not sure what I would do with it then. But I do live on a farm and I would like to see some type of precision agricultural use.
I guess I need a way to have the GPS on the phone talk with the GNSS internet radio and then give me spot on guidance and such.
Please let me know your thoughts or if I need to explain better.
Thanks,
Clayton
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bump. Any ideas? Anyone
Great idea cwrisrey !
That will save the cost of a geodetic device, which is many times the cost of a Fuze. Further, it will lead the accuracy of the buildin GPS into millimum class.
Not dig into this further, would you go further to tell these:
Is that CORS data encrypted?
Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
Once again, great idea. Please do remember to update this thread once you got any progress. Thanks.
More info
Hello wg5566,
This site would probably answer alot of your questions clearer than I could:
http://www6.nysdot.gov/spiderweb/frmIndex.aspx
* Is that CORS data encrypted?
-I don't believe so, I think that it is just a form of compression, to distribute across the internet.
* Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Yes, the NYS CORS anyway. It accessible from the public internet (although they require you to register with them) But I believe there are other free streams. I also believe it was modeled after being able to be sent threw GPRS.
* Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
-I believe the ntrip is based on a GNU, I think the source code is available. http://igs.bkg.bund.de/index_ntrip_down.htm
Windows CE version:
http://www.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/crgb/gsr/downloads/installGNSS.CAB
Please, let me know your thoughts...
Thanks,
Clayton
My fast thoughts:
First make sure there is no satisfied freeware currently available for WM.
If so please ask a moderator to move this to the development & hackings section. And Add tyis sentence on the title: Call for developers for revolutionary GPS app!
I'm sure somebody here can develop this. You know the geodetic device was invented many years ago with very weak profiles comparing to current WM devices. The hardware on our phone should be capable to deal with these calculations, and the WM Pro platform should be capable to support such an app. Anyway it should not be a biggy for many masters here. But it is a biggy for gps users with high accuracy demand for any reason.
Edit: Did you try install that wince cab on your phone? I think some of WINCE apps can just run on WM. Please backup your data first.
Edit2: I tried to install it on my device, at first it did not show up in start menu, then I found the cab just put files and shortcut in the folder names in French. But there is no registry involved in the cab. Only three files. And then program UI itself is in English. Just run the executable from the folder will go right out of the box. So please try it. I did not try to connect & loggin yet, due to not registered account.
Edit3: Looks like the cab is only access the data from internet, convert the data format and export the data, but we still need a geodetic/gps software to process/use the data.
Disclaimer: I attatched these three files for the only purppose of exchanging software developement infomation. Anybody if download it please do not use it for any purppose other than this. Thanx.
Some thoughts on the subject
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any software capable of doing this. My idea is that it should be possible to accomplish this goal, using a combination of existing tools (which would be really cool!).
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: http://lefebure.com/software/).
More searching revealed a (dead?) project on codeplex: SharpGPS. It's an unfinished demo. It does however seem to be designed to do exactly what we're suggesting in this thread.
My idea: Completing the WM version of SharpGPS with parts of GNSS Internet radio / lefebure NTRIP client should result in a tool that's capable of upgrading a WM devices' gps signal to sub-meter accuracy through RTK/DGPS corrections over NTRIP.
Any ideas / suggestions about this?
It's already been done for the commercial market
Land surveyors, construction companies, and farmers use RTK GPS and RTK GNSS correction services on a regular basis. Some are free and some are paid subscription. They can be either NTRIP protocol with casters or individual TCP or UDP connections. Examples of software available are Carlson SurvCE and MicroSurvey. Read Carlson's support site for how they deal with the data flow using such networks on SurvCE (Windows Mobile and CE).
I have worked in land surveying using such equipment, and it generally requires dual frequency receivers, RTK corrections, and high quality antennas to achieve 1-2cm 95% CI horizontal precision. The current GPS chips in cell phones are only single frequency and so the best you could expect under ideal conditions is 2'-3' precision using some form of differential correction like WAAS or beacon or DGPS via NTRIP. Under average conditions, the precision will likely be in the 10-20' range. The dual frequency receivers take care of the large errors caused by radio waves traveling through the ionosphere.
Due to the limitations of batteries, antennas, and space for more chips in cellphones, the future of location accuracy will likely include some combination of GPS/GLONASS and cellular radio signal frequency timing calculations from cell towers. True Position, with its U-TDOA technology, is one example of measuring the time differences of cell phone radio waves using cell towers with known coordinates. Rumors (from surveying journals) have it that there are current patents in place that can allow for sub foot precision using such methods when sufficient cell towers are present for multilateration.
Has anyone found success on this topic? WM or Android...
Would be very interested, since there is a free NTRIP feed available in Switzerland... anyone?
*bump* it up
Been there still trying. Problem is no carrier phase off internal gps.
Grimli said:
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: /lefebure.com/software/).
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Lance lefebure is a really cool guy I'm sure he wouldn't have any problem building a wm version but it is going to takea lot more than that to get rtk to a cell phone.
Very good ,thanks.
Ed hardy bikini said:
Very good ,thanks.
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If you are confused just ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. I am in the ag industry and deal with RTK networks and different ways of connecting them and tons of different gps units on a daily basis.
Look at this:
http://stakemill.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/ashtech-mobile-mapper-100-supports-esri-arcpad-10-0/
and this:
http://www.ashtech.com/-2359.kjsp?RH=1272644205746&RF=1270806507068
Is that still a phone !?
wg5566 said:
Look at this:
Is that still a phone !?
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Nope PDA with support for external GPS with a builtin reciever that even sees glonass satellites (russian constelation). That was made specifically to do RTK mapping. It does have a GSM radio for data to connect to the cors.
Phone positioning using CORS
To perform a CORS (Network Reference correction we need a GGA stream from the GPS in your device. This allows us to remove the anomalies and provde the correction stream. As phones use a sirf II chip or similar they do not have input capability to output the NMEA stream to achieve this.
This one works great! it will connect to an Rtk receiver and get the nmea string from it or will use the internal GPS to be able to register on the CORS network. It will then stream the corrections over Bluetooth to a receiver or even a repeater radio. It won't however correct the internal GPS. http://antrip.dyndns.biz/Home/DownloadTrial

WiFi Chipset INFO

This app simply shows WiFi chipset vendor from the WiFi MAC Address.
Download WiFi Chipset INFO: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.wifichipset
Enjoy!
v1.0.2: Minor bug fixes.
v1.0.1: Initial release.
All fine on Z Play with LOS14.1
Everything is fine for me. thanks for all
My Xperia S should have a BCM4330, but it's just reported as "Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB"
My Nexus 7 (2012) bas a BCM4330, too, but is reported as "Asustek Computer Inc" ... nevertheless as far as I know th BCM4330 should be secure.
Stock HTC U11 is save
Is this checking 43XX or only specific models? Based on the CVE my S8 is affected seeing as it's BCM43xx (S8 is BCM4361 )
My ZTE Axon 7 is fine! No worries there!
Is this app open source?
All fine on my Motorola Nexus 6 with latest Pure Nexus Rom :good:
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Labs
I believe this app just looks at the MAC Address OUI of your wifi interface - which is not an accurate way of determining if your phone is potentially vulnerable to Broadpwn
WARNING TO ALL
Bogus results, do not trust this app at the time of this post! States my WiFi chip in my LG G5 is "made by LG Electronics" and I'm safe from BroadPwn. However, a physical teardown (https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/LG+G5+Teardown/61205) clearly shows the motherboard using a vulnerable Broadcom BCM43xx series chip, namely Broadcom BCM43455.
LG's own Security Bulletin page also has not listed BroadPwn's code CVE-2017-9417 yet, so it is still not patched by the manufacturer and thus is vulnerable. (https://lgsecurity.lge.com/security_updates.html)
The information this app is pulling from the system is inaccurate. MAC Addresses tell you the manufacturer of the entire device, NOT the specific WiFi chip on the motherboard itself. Otherwise Samsungs and LGs and Apples would *all* be listed as "Broadcom" in router logs...
Many here actually have Broadcom chips and are now duped into a false sense of security as a result of this app. This needs to be removed from here and the XDA Portal ASAP before more are fooled. Users, please remain skeptical and investigate your hardware more closely than just this one app.
Please update the app to detect BCM4361 in S8/S8+. It should not be looking at the Murata packaging.
The app uses the wifi mac address and runs it again a mac address database.
That is not a working solution to detect the wifi chip in a smartphone.
The OnePlus 3 uses a Qualcomm QCA6174 chip. But it is detected as "OnePlus Tech (Shenzhen)Ltd" because they use their own mac address like nearly every smartphone vendor
It would be better to use other hardware IDs e.g. the one you get via lspci.
If you are not checking the patch level the Nexus 6 should be listed as vulnerable as it is listed in the original article.
MAC Addresses tell you the manufacturer of the entire device, NOT the specific WiFi chip on the motherboard itself.
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Nope, the above quoted clause is not correct.
My Galaxy Note 4 comes with the WiFi MAC address 90:B6:86:1A:74:FE and it's from Murata Manufacturing Co. (a manufacturer from Japan), not from Samsung itself.
OnePlus 5 safe.
vndnguyen said:
Nope, the above quoted clause is not correct.
My Galaxy Note 4 comes with the WiFi MAC address 90:B6:86:1A:74:FE and it's from Murata Manufacturing Co. (a manufacturer from Japan), not from Samsung itself.
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Let me clarify by revising that statement to be "MAC Address will tell you the network components' vendor (may or may not match manufacturer of the rest of the device), but NOT the specific chips used as part of the networking circuits."
That's why BroadPwn is a very scary exploit, the Broadcom 43xx chips are used as part of many different networking packages and rebrandings from vendors other than Broadcom itself. This chip family is so common it affects billions of mobile devices.
**Your rebuttal precisely shows yourself to be at risk.**
Murata Manufacturing Co. is sourced on many Smasung devices to provide networking components, but they source specific chips from others. If you look at their products pages you will find they list the specific chipsets used, many of which are Cypress brand chips. e.g. http://wireless.murata.com/eng/products/rf-modules-1/wi-fi-bluetooth.html
Cypress acquired Broadcom; all CYW43xx chips are direct renames of BCM43xx chips mentioned at the heart of the BroadPwn exploit. http://www.cypress.com/documentatio...wifi-ieee-80211ac-macbasebandradio-integrated (PDF link on that page explains the renaming of the chip series.)
To summarize: Samsung often uses Murata packages, which include Cypress, which includes Broadcom. In the case of your Galaxy Note 4, it has a BCM4358 chip in it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/9
BCM4358 is specifically listed as a known vulnerable target of the BroadPwn exploit. It will be discussed in detail at Black Hat USA 2017.
https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2017-9417
https://www.blackhat.com/us-17/brie...os-via-a-bug-in-broadcoms-wi-fi-chipsets-7603
If I may ask the exact method of your app, is it simply looking up the MAC Address against a vendor database? If so,1) Vendors not named Broadcom that use BCM43XX chips as a piece of their packages will erroneously show as OK, and 2) Broadcom's own networking products not including chips from the BCM43XX family may falsely be reported as vulnerable.
All of this said, please reconsider keeping your app published as it is; either take it down or revise the code ASAP. To reiterate it is dangerous to erroneously tell other device owners they are safe based on MAC Address info alone, just because it returns a vendor value other than "Broadcom". A vulnerable BCM43xx chip likely still lurks underneath the other names.
OK thank you all for your clarifications.
To avoid misunderstanding, I have removed the "BroadPwn check".
The app now only shows WiFi MAC vendor from the WiFi MAC address.
It does not check for the BroadPwn issue anymore.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
The app is up again in the Play Store.

Traffic messaging Channel.

I see there has been a few mentions of TMC here and there on xda that haven't amounted to much, but I came across an old article elsewhere that discussed the possible inclusion in android. Although several years old it has a link to a basic linux based software decoder.
Link - h**tp://linux.downloadatoz.com/simple-rds-tmc-decoder/
No special hardware required (UK anyway) as RDS data is received anyway by android head units radio. It just needs filtering and injected into appropriate nav. No special hardware necessary and no need for special mcu access.
I'm sure anyone born later than 2000 will never have heard of TMC and would cite google or waze as a better alternative of info / data received over an internet stream anyway.
While this is true, the cons are
1, needs permanent reliable data connection
2, reliance on google apps / services.
3, subject to google (and others) spyware, personal location tracking.
4, possible heavy data use costs.
5, not easy to implement in a head unit, and relies on a dongle or smartphone
6, may have in app costs associated.
RDS TMC has none of these disadvantages. It is always on provided FM radio is receivable. For basic info / data It is completely free, although some providers offer extra services and charge.
It has been around and used for years in win ce based systems (before android) yet it seems to have lost favour to android based manufacturers and users. Is that I wonder because of its advantages, and big companies want people to switch to more chargeable services with personal data harvesting??
What are peoples thoughts...?
I would love to have rds working with this radio so I could get it working with some nav programs.

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