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Its all soft and what not....I sold mine off last week and went and got a Vodaphone VPA Compact 3...this is quite sturdy which can withstand my abuse....So what phone do you guys think is good...lookingwise and stregnth wise????
Doh!
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
Gay, gay, gay... Quit being so PC.
Kaiser or Hermes both are loaded and from what I understand, durable.
both my Vario II (Hermes) and Touch (Elf) are thoroughly heterosexual mobile devices.
the Touch seems to be seen by some as a "ladyphone", but i've dropped mine several times and it's hardly got a scratch on it. except for when my girlfriend decided to cover it with sand on the beach in Cyprus.
still, i made her swim two miles to get me a beer and some ice cream.
gay?
well, i'm no fan of being PC by any means, but i'll say it looks like a girly phone. buttons look stupid and i hate the blue hue, so i got my girl a black herald instead and think it looks much better.
so, not "gay" but stupid. the SC430, Celica, certain Nokias are also girly looking, but still look good. no such luck for the Wing, especially when compared to all of american carriers' htc offerings. and yes, the MDA is the second ugliest of them all as well
yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I've got a Dell Axim and know it is sturdy and a lovely pda but it is not a phone and i am selling mine now just because I've got too many toys (can one have too many toys? My hubby thinks so)...and I was after another toy, so it's got to go...so sorry to let it go (no smilies here for very sad!)
I've bought it to try linux but could never get a decent distro for it as I am a very beginner on using linux. Also I've fancied wowing people with connecting it to a lcd projector for presentations without a computer!
I am planning to get an Ubiquio 503 because of the form factor but I've heard it's got ROM issues.
The "blue hue" is a rubber like material that makes it hold on to the surface of your car's dashboard, etc. It's actually quite useful. Black would have been better, but they wanted to be different. At least they didn't use their signature pink...
EDIT: The Wing also feels a good deal sturdier than the MDA it replaced.
So true
ivanmmj said:
The "blue hue" is a rubber like material that makes it hold on to the surface of your car's dashboard, etc. It's actually quite useful. Black would have been better, but they wanted to be different. At least they didn't use their signature pink...
EDIT: The Wing also feels a good deal sturdier than the MDA it replaced.
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Thats would have suked! lol
Sorry
yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I didnt know you were a homosexual! Sorry for using that term!
yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I completely agree with you in this matter, but honestly people in this world need to stop being so "sensitive". The problem with this world is that there are too many ******* and whine and complain about anything that is offensive to them. Some people just need to learn to man up and take a blow to the stomach rather than whining after someone used a deragatory term.
I am perfectly happy with the WING... which I bought to replace my MDA which sucked. I'd love to get a Kaiser next, but I'm perfectly happy with my WING and I don't think its "gay" by any means.... I'm sure the people over in the herald forum would agree.
duprade said:
I am perfectly happy with the WING... which I bought to replace my MDA which sucked. I'd love to get a Kaiser next, but I'm perfectly happy with my WING and I don't think its "gay" by any means.... I'm sure the people over in the herald forum would agree.
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....Agreed
If having a wing is gay, then consider me a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL. Because I effin love my wing.
Im waiting for 3rd party companies to start making some REPLACEABLE plastic for the phone, like perhaps a black "soft gay" back piece instead of the blue.
I guess once you go black "soft gay" you don't go back. I'm looking forward to new "soft gay" parts for my gay Wing.
TylerC161 said:
If having a wing is gay, then consider me a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL. Because I effin love my wing.
Im waiting for 3rd party companies to start making some REPLACEABLE plastic for the phone, like perhaps a black "soft gay" back piece instead of the blue.
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duprade said:
I guess once you go black "soft gay" you don't go back. I'm looking forward to new "soft gay" parts for my gay Wing.
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Im gay with excitement; no doubt.
LOL!
Its because of where I live and where I work, with Law. I consider use of these sorts of terms as bad as it gets. Its not about being politically correct, its about knowing different types of people and actually caring about the language I use because I know what I say will affect different people in different ways.
I remember one of my mates would call everything cheap or anyone who was tight a 'Jew' or 'jewish'.
I just dont think its nice or necesary. It shows that you are ignorant in regards to the different ways in which people think. Its nothing to do with being politically correct.
Anyway, thats your problem not mine regardless if you like men or ladies.....or Wings
My girlfriend agrees with me.
So does my other Jewish mate.
Everyone has to grow up at some point. This is offensive to me. If it was a racial slur I am sure people would not tolerate it.
Lolol
This actually reminds me of the sorts of posts that you get on the www.qj.net quick comment box's. Hundreds and thousands of kids all screaming your PS3 is PWned, your 360 is Gay.....
God damn it pisses me off!
Gets up my nose when I see it in my fav community.
Dr J said:
still, i made her swim two miles to get me a beer and some ice cream.
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Er how did she carry them back to you?
Okay, what shoudl this thread title be?
I see that the first poster caused offence by using the word "gay" but I wonder what other word he could have used to articulate what he meant. I am pretty sure he wasn't trying to offend the gay community in his post. He's just seen that this device looks a bit, well, erm, - what are you supposed to say without causing offence?
Effeminate? Camp?
I'd be interested in what words should be used in this context!
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Er how did she carry them back to you?
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no idea, she never made it back.
nobody scratches my screen and gets away with it
Similar specs, with few differences with pros and cons, BUT whats your choice and why?
I like kaiser. Elegant, bit bulky but decent. Excellent keyboard and tilt screen just look very sexy in your hand or on the table. I have installed HTC Cube and new HTC Album, so it is working as Touch. Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
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Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
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Yeah...kaiser has everything more than Polaris...even the size...
Am also torn between the two I sold my Kaiser last weekend abroad and wanting to buy a replacement. The long wait for polaris may even send me into the iMate ultimate den
The decision is very easy. If you need a keyboard as your typing the whole day, go for the kaiser. If you need something light and handy get the cruise. The 200g weight of the Kaiser is no joke, you feel it pulling in every pocket. Just try to carry around two 100g bars of chocolate the whole day. 50g less with the Polaris is a tremendous difference. I gave back my Kaiser because of this.
Polaris, because of the sunlight readable screen.
(But subject to seeing the actual device first!)
Dear Santa,
I would like one of each please!!
Polaris all the Life!
size first of all! amazing!
better LCD display!
I like so much the central weel.
all the rest is FUFFA! (for me obviously)
Bye
Kaiser has a keyboard that can also tilt...that is fragile!!! I can't imagine with all the vibration of the car while the tytn2 is attached to the car consolle.
Go for Polaris of course.
Polaris is my choice.....
- best case
- hardest display
- better design
- compact size
Polaris. Better screen than Kaiser, I think, without the weight, bulk and the 'formal' look.
Apart that Kaiser is ugly, big, thick and heavy everything seems to be ok. Not a match for polaris but ofcourse I don’t need or want a keyboard
Each year has his own dilemma:
Wizard / Prophet
TyTn / Trinity
Kaiser / Polaris
What will be the next?
Over the last years I never owned a device with a keyboard and I don't need a keyboard on my 'phone' either.
So my choice was easy, Polaris! I also happen to like the looks more and the fact it's less bulky is also a major pro in my eyes.
On the other hand the Kaiser is a very nice device and I guess if you need to do a lot of typing on the device that one would have a major advantage because of the keyboard.
Just the way you look at it, the lack of keyboard is very important to me in a positive way. For others it's very important in a negative way. (negative as in: not in favour of Polaris).
video problems??
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
I'm a current Artemis user and the wheel is a godsend!! I would definitely go for the Polaris (and pass the Artemis to my wife.. hehe)
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
Thanks
binners said:
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
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I am not sure if it is lack of drivers problem but there will be no difference in this issue bettwen Polaris kai Kaiser.
pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
MasK said:
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
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...and FM Radio.
MasK said:
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
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The Polaris screen will be the same as Touch. Compare the screen between Touch and Kaiser and you will figure out the answer by yourself!
binners said:
pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
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The hardware is the same. The software is different (because it is a touch PPC). TouchFlo and Cube will work better because of the different screen, not the hardware inside tha device.
I too have heard the screen is different for the Touch/Cruise. How is it different? Can some ellaborate on the technical details and how they traslate to making the TouchFlo work better?
After using the TouchFlo features on the Kaiser/Tilt, I am not impressed. Quirky to the point that it is not even usable. I find it to be a novelty at best and too prone to swipes being "interpreted" as taps.
So how does the Cruise improve on this?
Hi all,
Looks like HTC has finally made something almost good enough to replace the aging Uni.
The screen isn't quite big enough for my liking, but the rest of the specs are enough to tempt me into retiring my beloved Universal.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx
As soon as they are on sale, I shall be leaving the Universal forum.
I'd like to say thanks to everyone here for your support and help.
I will not be releasing any more Roms or packages for the Universal, as my new device would certainly arrive before I had any free time from work to start any more Dev work.
It has been a pleasure being part of this community, I have made many wonderful friends here
Cheers,
Beasty
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
TehPenguin said:
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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But unfortunately only 2,8" screen
TehPenguin said:
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanx for the hard ROM work man .
Too bad the Touch Pro does not have a TILT screen, then I would buy it...
Eelco
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
markymanxxx said:
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
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The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree with u. This is a replacement for Kaiser, touch dual, tytn, wizard, but not Uni.
No clamhell and small screen, but has the missed 5th row in the keyboard and the VGA screen. still there is no device has beaten Uni. In my opinion the replacement must has:
-Clamshell
- 3.5" VGA
-Full Qwerty with separate row for numbers
- The other stuffs that are missed in Uni. i.e. Camera (auto focuss and 3 mega) and GPS.
I don't think that HTC will release such a device as it will decrease their profits from other devices.
Win_XP said:
The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
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Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
markymanxxx said:
Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
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There is no need to close NF to listen an MP3 with 128 ram Uni The only thing that grabs me in Touch Pro is TV-out option
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
beast0898 said:
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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That's a good idea btw, here i'm agree with you
beast0898 said:
I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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I think you need to check the Sony Ericsson Xperia before being conclusive on the raphael...the SE has an 800x480 screen with almost similar features...
But yea, as of now, my love is for the raphael...touch pro i mean....
It would have been really cool if there was an upgrade to our unis with the same form factor being maintained, of course with a second external display...
cheers & thanks sooo much for all your contributions for our universals!
San
Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
Win_XP said:
Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
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Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
markymanxxx said:
Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
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The Eee is not bad, i have one at work, but it is twice the size of the Uni, and to be honest it isnt much more functional, the 7" screen sucks for working on continuously (at least for my poor eyes) it's a great package for kids, but not much room for it in a corporate market for full time use, and there is no way I can get it in my back pocket.
When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
beast0898 said:
When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
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You are the man
beast0898 said:
Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
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I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
TehPenguin said:
I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
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I doubt that mate, I won't have enough time to dedicate to it, we are still planning on emigrating to Florida end of this year earlt next year, and to be honest I don't think I have the experience to lead a project like that.
Hopefully there will be some familiar faces of old on the Raphael, Mamaich, Midget, Ivan, Jason maybe even Helmi might be tempted by it.......... we can but hope to see some of the gods of the XDA Devs forum return, maybe I can even tempt Leo away from his beloved (tiny) Kaiser........ I'll have words with him when he's back from his hols in Slovakia.
Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0
well its running winmo 6.1 & tf2d.. I Would say for 240 american that is a pretty good price for what may be carbon copy..
malloy0 said:
Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0
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I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC
orb3000 said:
I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC
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You probably pay a lot of money for a plain brick when you buy this.
I would say stick to HTC. (also saw HTC Diamond clone on internet last week, it was not even running on Windows Mobile).
My 2 cents/opinions. maybe help buyers-beware
cons
+ Internal electronics is different. OE HTC roms r no good for the HTY. (so, who knows where to find rom support specially with 6.5 pop'n up all over the place)
+ came with a Plain Jane WM6.1 English. No TF2d, GPS app, etc.. even though advertised.. Basically you'll have to locate all the apps and troubleshoot to get them to work since the hardware is different.
+ Some optional apps were on the 2g micro sd. but they were in Chinese.
+ Touch Screen/ Digitizer is a little thin and fragile. Seems like its easily creased. Noticeable at an angle in bright light.
+ Strange thing, it comes with what looks like an OE HTC cruise 09 manual. Useless, doesn't apply to the HTY.. why did they bother.. also, came in a generic box.
+ Wifi is weak. 1 bar strenth where my wizard got 3 bars.
+ No Navigation scroll wheel on the HTY like the HTC has. You can spot the difference by the button size. the HTY has a smaller round button than the HTC.
+ GPS fix takes looooooggggg...
+ the hook where you can attach a wrist leash is plastic
+ Basically, don't even consider thinking your getting an HTC Iolite. These are 2 totally different devices even though they look the same.
pros
+ 624Mhz CPU. pretty quick.. snaps and responds promptly navigating through apps
+ came with 2 batteries, headset, case, car and ac power adapters, useless cd and htc manual (those things don't apply to the hty, again why bother and waste materials)
+ Housing is pretty sold. Really not bad quality. (minus the touch screen)..
+ Battery life is good
+ very compact. Doesn't make your pocket bulg
Personally for me, if i knew what i know now i probably would have gotten a like/new used Fuze. The fuze has issues but so does this HTY. It seems more logical to deal with the fuze that has way way way more features and xda dev support at about the same price as that ebay posting. not to mention the awesome vga screen.
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Update: Removed -> "recommend this phone". Learning that there is too much troubleshooting to get it to function they way it should function based on it's specs.
Update..
Internal GPS really sux.. basically useless.. can't get a fix or takes extremely long.. 20+ mins. totally totally impractical..
Horrible screen in sun light. Can't see the screen at all in the car when trying to use the NAVi...
Change'n my mind.. I would not recommend this phone if your intent was to purchase one with internal GPS...
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Update: Found the GPS fix. posted the info here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525336&page=10
Still, beware if your thinking of purchasing this thing.. your gunna spend your hard earned money on a brand new item only to have to modify it to get it to work.. hope these posts inform people.
Update on the digitizer
The touch screen/ digitizer doesn't crease easily as i mentioned earlier. I took the phone apart and found out that its just poor quality (IMO). maybe a bad batch, i don't know.. the digitizer still functions great as it should. it just has a few depressions that gives it a wavy look on the reflective edges. really only noticeable at an angle in bright light. not too much of a big deal, but thought people should be aware if they were thinking of getting one of these devices
ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
poetryrocksalot said:
ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah... i know.. didn't do my research.. was in a rush.. didn't even get my hands on a fuze until after i bought the thing.. the fuze is nice.. kicked myself for a min after i held it. whats done is done.. its do'en its job as a phone and gps 4 now..
btw.. i agree this phone is definately not worth 240. i wouldn't get one at that price either.. not going to say how much i found it for.. no need to encourage promote'n it..
hope'n people can learn from what i posted..
Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0
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malloy0 said:
Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0
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Why are you getting rid of Fuze?
hi there,
i have xda exec with wm5 on i would like to upgrade it how can i do it?
and what version of firmware can i put on it?
cybercypher said:
hi there,
i have xda exec with wm5 on i would like to upgrade it how can i do it?
and what version of firmware can i put on it?
current version is os5.1.795 build 14847.2.0.0
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You could start by reading Wiki section for Universal, aka XDA Exec, it's an excellent, well written resource and has all the information you could possibly need and all the answers to the questions you could possibly have.
The ROMs you might be interested in can be found in their corresponding sections on this forum, each will have a description and list of things included, as well as comments by other members on performance, problems encountered and solutions.
enigma1nz said:
You could start by reading Wiki section for Universal, aka XDA Exec, it's an excellent, well written resource and has all the information you could possibly need and all the answers to the questions you could possibly have.
The ROMs you might be interested in can be found in their corresponding sections on this forum, each will have a description and list of things included, as well as comments by other members on performance, problems encountered and solutions.
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Hi Enigma1nz,
I was just wondering the other day if you had left us, coz ive not heard of you for a while. Did you get a 128 upgrade?
Regards
Jay
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Hi Enigma1nz,
I was just wondering the other day if you had left us, coz ive not heard of you for a while. Did you get a 128 upgrade?
Regards
Jay
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I am here, of course, where else would I be, hehe. I had my 128Mb for a while, just nothing new came out lately and I resorted to the best combination of ROM+SPB MS3.5+Opera10b and other bits and pieces, the trick was to find the combo where everything worked. Besides, I purchased a semi-broken LG KS20 running WM6.1 and played with that for a while - not bad, especially considering 128/256, but still a far cry from Uni.
Not sure where the Uni is heading now, but it is starting to fade out a bit. I renewed my contract with t-mobile last year and I took a G1 the andriod based machine. Well its good but.......just not got that something that makes a great machine. its got all the features to make it a great machine, and it does as its told, but it spends more time on the side than with a sim card in it. which Rom have you settled with in the end? I liked tomals 8.71, its well finished and it all works. its a shame SRS wow doesn't work on it, coz I like that prog a lot.
Regards
Jay
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Not sure where the Uni is heading now, but it is starting to fade out a bit. I renewed my contract with t-mobile last year and I took a G1 the andriod based machine. Well its good but.......just not got that something that makes a great machine. its got all the features to make it a great machine, and it does as its told, but it spends more time on the side than with a sim card in it. which Rom have you settled with in the end? I liked tomals 8.71, its well finished and it all works. its a shame SRS wow doesn't work on it, coz I like that prog a lot.
Regards
Jay
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The thing about SPB MS, as I mentioned more times than I care to be reminded ofmad, is that it removed the necessity for a flash looking ROM, so pretty much any Vanilla is fine, even WM5, if one is keen to keep VC. I had a great time with Tomal's 8-series, in particular 8.2, 8.5 and 8.9, but there were other conflicts, especially with Opera betas, I really liked the look of 10 and it appeared to be somewhat less problematic compatibility-wise than 9.5 and I didn't like 9.7. So once the Opera issue was settled - the rest was a smooth sailing.
As far as SRS WOW is concerned - Tomal's 8.2 was the last version it was running on i think...(have to check on that, not 100%), for other ROMs there is a patched Tomal's version.
I would dearly love for HTC to reconsider the return of the same form factor and size (funny, how so many people were against it in the first place) with updated specs to handle the pressure. Would be a winner for me. These days I tell everyone I have a MINI NETBOOK!!!! with touch screen/pad fold/phone capabilities and they want to cry with envy. All it needs is Shift's specs.
The unfortunate news for those keen on WM7 is that the platform will not support anything made for its predecessors, rendering pretty much everything done so far obsolete within a very short period of time. Only limited support for 6.5 will be offered by Microsoft.
enigma1nz said:
I would dearly love for HTC to reconsider the return of the same form factor and size (funny, how so many people were against it in the first place) with updated specs to handle the pressure. Would be a winner for me. These days I tell everyone I have a MINI NETBOOK!!!! with touch screen/pad fold/phone capabilities and they want to cry with envy. All it needs is Shift's specs.
The unfortunate news for those keen on WM7 is that the platform will not support anything made for its predecessors, rendering pretty much everything done so far obsolete within a very short period of time. Only limited support for 6.5 will be offered by Microsoft.
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Its funny how a different discription will sell an object. I was a joiner for my main job, and I was fitting a lady's window and she didn't want me to secure it with screws. she wanted it nailing in (lord knows why) anyway I told her I would secure it with threaded steel dowls (screws) and she was over the moon. so your mini notebook idea doesn't supprise me at all.
I gave up on spb ms as it eats a 64 mb memory to much, but I have plans to upgrade the memory so will go back to it. I recon HTC are following fashon with their phones, they all are the same thing, and one day we may end up with a return to the notebook style. I once bought a wvga tosheba 900, it was the worst pda I have ever owned. It wouldn't even play a video well, so I got a refund. So here I stay with my Uni and my Athena (now that is a big PDA) I seem to remember not having much joy with the srs wow patch, it did funny things to the camera and sound.
Regards
Jay
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Its funny how a different discription will sell an object. I was a joiner for my main job, and I was fitting a lady's window and she didn't want me to secure it with screws. she wanted it nailing in (lord knows why) anyway I told her I would secure it with threaded steel dowls (screws) and she was over the moon. so your mini notebook idea doesn't supprise me at all.
I gave up on spb ms as it eats a 64 mb memory to much, but I have plans to upgrade the memory so will go back to it. I recon HTC are following fashon with their phones, they all are the same thing, and one day we may end up with a return to the notebook style. I once bought a wvga tosheba 900, it was the worst pda I have ever owned. It wouldn't even play a video well, so I got a refund. So here I stay with my Uni and my Athena (now that is a big PDA) I seem to remember not having much joy with the srs wow patch, it did funny things to the camera and sound.
Regards
Jay
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True, I gave up on SRS WOW altogether, actually, the best ROM that worked with EVERYTHING was Tomal's 8.2, can't remember now why I wanted to move to 8.9 so much. Yep, with 128Mb SPB MS is a beauty and if my Uni didn't get enough attention from my friends, it sure does now with all the touch movements and screens shifting, haha. I got it fitted with an iPhone screen protector, took a bit of cutting to size, it's very glossy, so looks very close to those modern netbook screens, the protector is something like $1.20 for a pack of 3 and I don't peel the outer layer off right away, so use it for a few weeks until it gets mucked up, then peel it off to reveal the proper smooth protector underneath, that one lasts for ages and you can't even see it on.
P.S. Would love to lay my hands on Athena... Might advertise for a broken one, always wanted a Shift or similar, don't care about the size, just can't afford the price.
Forgot to mention. HTC is in the middle of court case. Apple is suing for partial Android copyright infringements. Should've gone after Google, really, but HTC is a much easier and smaller target.
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Forgot to mention. HTC is in the middle of court case. Apple is suing for partial Android copyright infringements. Should've gone after Google, really, but HTC is a much easier and smaller target.
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That is interesting news, I will watch out for that one.
I bought my Athena off Ebay in one of those rash moments, and once I bid I had that "oh ****, what have I done" moments. I remember all day I was wishing to be out bid, but fat chance. but they are dropping in price like a stone now. They are the dogs do-dah's of PDA's and spoil you for screen size, so now the Universal looks quite small screened to me now. The BIG problem with them is the phone, you cant use them to the ear coz they only work on speaker and if anyone is near then they hear the lot, so its bluetooth all the way. most of us use the LG style-I. Its a pen size thing that looks and works like a tiny phone, and leve the Athena in its large pocket or bag. Another great thing is you can plug into the telly, and with a bluetooth keyboard surf the net or watch your films on the big screen. Even the mighty Athena is getting old hat now though, but its down to what you need at the end of the day.
Jay