Hi, first let me say im sorry if this has already been covered somewhere, i have spent all day searching the wiki and forum to no avail. If the solution is already here please point me in the direction and delete this thread.
I have just flashed my kaiser from the original vodafone WM6 ROM to Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700. At first everything seemed fine, then when i tried to restore the backup id created with sprite backup it restored, reset and now wont get past the loading screen. It shows the vodafone splash screen then duttys htc screen then goes back to vodafone.
I used Hardspl 3.29 before flashing. I tried hard reseting which made no difference. i cant get into the bootloader (tried the camera, power reset thing loads) and i cant connect to my pc as it wont go past the splash screen.
I had a look at MTTY but it doesnt give the options described in the instructions and after reading the warnings about MTTY decided i shouldnt mess around with what i dont understand.
Any help will be greatly apreciated, i love my phone and the idea that ive just broken it scares the crap out of me.
Thanks
Sandy
sandyfsx said:
Hi, first let me say im sorry if this has already been covered somewhere, i have spent all day searching the wiki and forum to no avail. If the solution is already here please point me in the direction and delete this thread.
I have just flashed my kaiser from the original vodafone WM6 ROM to Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700. At first everything seemed fine, then when i tried to restore the backup id created with sprite backup it restored, reset and now wont get past the loading screen. It shows the vodafone splash screen then duttys htc screen then goes back to vodafone.
I used Hardspl 3.29 before flashing. I tried hard reseting which made no difference. i cant get into the bootloader (tried the camera, power reset thing loads) and i cant connect to my pc as it wont go past the splash screen.
I had a look at MTTY but it doesnt give the options described in the instructions and after reading the warnings about MTTY decided i shouldnt mess around with what i dont understand.
Any help will be greatly apreciated, i love my phone and the idea that ive just broken it scares the crap out of me.
Thanks
Sandy
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first, are you SURE you can't get into bootloader?
I know it sounds stupid, but try REALLY pushing the camera button in while pushing the stylus into the reset hole. Once you get to the bootloader (tri-color screen), try flashing a different ROM
good luck
mbarvian said:
first, are you SURE you can't get into bootloader?
I know it sounds stupid, but try REALLY pushing the camera button in while pushing the stylus into the reset hole. Once you get to the bootloader (tri-color screen), try flashing a different ROM
good luck
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I agree here a lot of people don't realize the Camera button is a two stage button. It stops at Half-Press then you can push again to get Full Press. You need a Full Press to get into bootloader.
Just to clarify.
Press and hold the camera button and at the same time insert stylus in reset hole and hold until bootloader comes up.
In other words, do not let up until bootloader shows. It should take around 2-3 seconds.
yea ive been doing that. After trying many times i have found that holding the camera button down for around 2 minutes after the htc dutty series screen comes up brings up a white screen with the error message;
"the device is unable to boot either because you have turned off the device incorrectly or tried to install an application from an untrusted source. press send to reset or any other key to cancel"
The message dissapears if i let go of the camera button, and resets back to the vodafone screen and stays there. If i press the send button same thing happens (just an idiot check but the send button is the green pick up button right?) ive tryed the enter button and both soft keys but all to the same result. I have tried holding down each button on that screen as well and the error message stays as long as i hold the button but when i let go it just goes back to the vodafone splash screen and stays there.
I have tried holding the stylus with the camera button all the way through to this error message, doesnt seem to make a difference.
just to clarify, ive done what you suggest and still cant get into the bootloader.
Thanks for any help, this is driving me mad.
hold the camera button and use the stylus to press the reset button, and continue holding the camera button until the bootloader screen pops up.
i used to let go the camera button as soon as the screen go black, but then it just reset the device instead of going into the bootloader...
oh forgot to mention. Shotly after the dutty series screen comes up i get the window appearing sound but nothing comes on screen. suggests to me that maybe its trying to tell me whatswrong but i can see what it is. maybe, i dunno..
theclueless said:
hold the camera button and use the stylus to press the reset button, and continue holding the camera button until the bootloader screen pops up.
i used to let go the camera button as soon as the screen go black, but then it just reset the device instead of going into the bootloader...
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Im holding the camera button for around 2 minutes before it does anything, then i get the above error message.
Do you have a storage card installed?
yes. tried taking it out and doing the same thing. no different.
anything else i could try?
sandyfsx said:
Im holding the camera button for around 2 minutes before it does anything, then i get the above error message.
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OK But are you also holding your stylus in the Reset Hole?
If yes, And you can't get into Bootloader, well I think you are "boned"
Yes im doing that. Boned? really? What about the error message that eventually comes up? isnt there anything i can do from there? Any other way of reseting it so maybe the bootloader works?
And if its really broken, do you recon my network will send me another or have i just properly voided the warranty?
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I've searched everywhere, and I can't figure out what to do. I bought my 8125 with the faria crossbow rom already loaded. I made some registry changes, using the registry wizard. All I changed was to turn off the message sent notification. After a reboot, I see the IPL and SPL (both 2.26)...and then instead of going to the crossbow logo, it just goes blank. After a few seconds, the green light starts flashing...and when I hit anything, all the buttons light up. It almost seems like it's working, but it's not displaying. I've pulled the battery a few times hoping for a miracle, but no such luck. I can get to the bootloader screen. If I understood the instructions correctly, I should be able to flash it from here with the love rom? I downloaded it, and the update utility is not in english. I tried to get through it, and I think I did it right...but I'm pretty sure it was giving me an error saying it couldn't connect. When I plug in the usb cable from the bootloader screen, it does say usb on the bottom. I'm pretty much stuck from here. Does anyone have any suggestions on my next step?
Thanks in advance...
You can just do a hard reset. Turn off the phone, then hold down the comm and Voice buttons then turn on the device. It will ask you to reformat memory. Press the green Call Send button to confirm. This will put you back to a fresh install of that rom (and you will lose anyting you loaded on the phone in regular memory).
If that doesn't work, then you can look at flashing. Read the sticky at the top of this forum on how to flash (by Vippie) and you will be good to go with doing that... Good luck!
The hard reset did it. I tried that earlier, but I guess I wasn't holding one of the buttons down all the way...or something stupid like that. Thanks for the help!
I installed HTC Home Plug In (to SD card), HTC Customizer (to SD card) and a battery indicator in the Windows Start Up File. These are all apps I had installed before on previous devices including my HTC 3470 and AT&T Tilt -with no problem. It shows the O2 start screen, goes to the Windows Mobile screen, vibrates and then starts all over again - screen goes blank, O2 sreen, etc. Any ideas on how I get out of boot mode would be great. I know how to do Hard SPL, Flash a ROM etc. However, I can't get it out of the boot mode to flash it.
hard reset, cant remember the key combo though :/ try the wiki
badaas said:
hard reset, cant remember the key combo though :/ try the wiki
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Saw the wiki last night. it is holding down two keys and hitting reset button - hasn't worked yet but will keep trying
xchicagoan5 said:
Saw the wiki last night. it is holding down two keys and hitting reset button - hasn't worked yet but will keep trying
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just keep the buttons pressed!
just like this:
1. Press and hold the both lower buttons, and at the same time, use the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom of your device.
2. Release the RESET button, but continue pressing the the other buttons until you see a message that everything will be deleted.. bla, bla, bla.
Fixed. Your advice and patience has helped. I was too fast and wasn't waiting long enough for the screen to appear!! Many thanks!
I started haveing issue with the device last night, the phone app was locking the phone up, i tried restoring from my sprite, but it didnt work.
I got it to a point where it workied, but for some reason it lost all my contacts and email settings.
Well I said screw it, ill just hard reset and start from scratch, after a soft reset, it hung on the "Touch Pro" screen withthe red text at the bottom, then just sits there.
If I hard boot it does the same thing.
any ideas?
go into bootloader and then flash a new ROM there.
Hold Volume down and reset. You will go to bootloader. Plug in USB and flash from there. No need to sd flash.
it will not go past the touch pro screen, still sitting like that now. I cannot even turn it off, just reset it and get back to the same spot.
did you take out the battery for a time? but you do that on your own risk... for me that doesnt sound good ...
greetz
Boris
Yep, the best I have been able to get is plugging the phone in and getting it to constantly reset itself.
BRICKED!
New ohone in the mail, hope to have it tomorrow,
Now, do I use my old sprite back up from a week or so ago, or start from scratch?
BD
best is to begin new, but for me that would take 1,5 days cause i know nothinh about UC; thats why i restore my spb backup... with differen Romeos version i had never problems ... take the rom upgrade mode...
Greetz
Boris
Once I get to the bootloader screen, how do I flash the rom?
What is the latest stock rom and what is best link to download?
I finally got to the hard reset warning screen. It says press "send" to reset. Everywhere else (including manual) it says to press "volume up". Anway, I pressed and released "send" but nothing happens. It seems frozen on teh warning screen. Or does it take a few minutes to hard reset.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!
Did you tried the method with settings => system => "Speicher löschen" ( in german; "eraze memory" or something like that in english) => input 1234??
Greetz
Boris
I sent mine back, it did nothing.
hard reset
i had to hard reset my htc touch pro as well because i unistalled a program and it wiped out like half the stock programs. this is what i did....
1). make sure you back everything up that you have on your phone.
2). shut off your phone
3). hold the volume down button and the enter button at the same time. (enter button is the big cirle center button)
4). while holding those two buttons in, press and hold the power button on the top until the popup appears on the screen. then just follow the steps and your phone should be like brand new again!!
Funny thing I did it the first time and it worked like a charm. But now i'm having trouble in doing it again?? any suggestions?? anyone???
Hey guys
I woke up this morning because I got a message. Opened it and then replied. Went to shut the screen off but the backlight remained on. So I just did a soft reset. Now the bootloader comes up and says no Image file.
What do I do?
You could try download a custom splash screen, put it on your SD and start up in bootloader mode, and then flash the new boot/splash screen
Hope this fix your problem
i figured the "image file" its looking for was the ROM?
hehe ofcourse, sry for the post before, my head is a bit screwed... i have been working on getting win 7 and NBH Utility to work together the last 2-3 days xD.
well then reflash the rom using the same method... you have Hard-SPL right?
the latest NRG is working like a charm
Bowdowntozoltan said:
Hey guys
I woke up this morning because I got a message. Opened it and then replied. Went to shut the screen off but the backlight remained on. So I just did a soft reset. Now the bootloader comes up and says no Image file.
What do I do?
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Were you accidentally pressing volume down when you soft reset? That's what it sounds like to me. Maybe vol. down is sticking, for whatever reason. Does another soft reset get you out of the bootloader? Somehow, I doubt that your rom just up and walked away.
no i don't think i was on volume down. and no soft or even hard reset will even work. the bootloader tri color screen pops up and flashes white real quick and says "no image file" and then goes back to the tri color screen.
so i to flash it via SD card correct?
Have you tried pulling the battery for a bit? I still wonder if you have a sticky vol down button. Replace the battery, then push power. If you're still in bootloader, then you can either flash off your card or through usb.
how do i flash it via USB? just plug it in and run the rom install?
reflashed a new rom. nothing. still sits in bootloader mode.
ok so what based on what i'm searching ive found a couple things. I pm'ed a guy, and saw something about jumpspl. But apparently this is an app that goes on the phone? because windows xp wont run it? theres not a lot out there on jumpspl so i dont have a clue. should I retry flashing hard spl?
Hold on; your sig now says you have a tilt. But you've flashed a raphael rom to it? Flash a stock rom to it with the proper spl. You should ask mskip what to do in his Kaiser-flashing thread. This does not sound good. Did the phone actually work with the wrong rom on it?
Man, from what I've read about Kaisers, they are very delicate phones. If you flashed a raphael radio to it, it's deader than Michael Jackson. Are you sure you don't have a fuze? You gotta own a fuze, and not a tilt.
its a fuze sorry i have no idea why it says tilt.
Not quite sure why, but the phone is working again...
My $ is on a stick vol down key, and I'm riding that horse to the bank!
scratch that, it broke again. how can i fix the stuck down key? is volume down and reset like wipe the device?
if the phone had the volume down key "stuck" then it would constantly turn down the volume would it not? its fine when i can acutally get the phone to boot, but i shut it off and started it back up and it did it again. i have a feeling it has something to do with the wall charger, because i reset it multiple times before i put it there, but once i charged and reset, it died.
Yeah, that's true. I say I think that's the problem because holding volume down and soft resetting sends you into the bootloader. If your sd card doesn't have a raphimg.nbh in its root, you'll get the 'no image' error message. Then, if you try to soft reset, but vol down is still somehow stuck, you'll never get out of bootloader. That's why I suggested pulling the battery earlier. When you power back on, it should just boot up normally like after a soft reset, but I might be wrong about that.
It's just not normal to randomly go into bootloader when you soft reset (and to stay there). Clearly, the phone is picking up the 'go into bootloader' signal somehow or other. Maybe it's not the physical button, but there's just some sort of bug that makes the phone think the button is being held down when you soft reset. Bummer, whatever it is, I hope you get it sorted out.
You might want to bite the bullet and hard reset. If you have some weird bug (and not a physically stuck down button) this should solve it. I bet you can hard reset ok. Hold vol down and the d-pad button and soft reset. You have to continue to hold down both buttons for a couple seconds after you soft reset. Then press vol up at the prompt.
I have hard reset a few times. I think I'm going to try not to turn off the phone unless i have to. i reset it a few times yesterday even after plugging it in for a little and its still good. i'll try it again when i get home because i need my phone during work.
thanks for your help!
Hi all,
Perhpas this has been answered before, but I couldn´t find any related thread.
My Rapahel is turned on but can´t see anything on the screen! is totally black.
I know it´s turned on because I can up or down the volume key and I hear the sound and feel the vibrate.
Yesterday was ok, nothing new installed but today I just pressed the power button and nothing!!
This happened me before on Universal, problem was that in some way the phone change itself the brightness to cero.
If I conect to wall charger nothing happens also, not any sign that device is charging.
But still can see something. Now on my Rapahel I cant see anything?
Any help would be much than apreciated please!!
Thanks,
I would
1 softreset
2 hardreset
3 rma
Rudegar said:
I would
1 softreset
2 hardreset
3 rma
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thnaks,
soft reset done: nothing
hard reset done: nothing
sorry, what is rma?
Any other advice?
help please!
Hey masters!
A light would be great here!
Sorry to insist!
orb3000 said:
thnaks,
soft reset done: nothing
hard reset done: nothing
sorry, what is rma?
Any other advice?
help please!
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Not a master, but still try to help:
What happend during the soft or hardreset, is the screen showing during the booting ?
How did u do the hardreset, by holding keys ?
After the hardreset u have to get the screen aligned how did u get after that point ?
Help!
Ok this is what I did:
When sof reset not any screen was appearing during the process.
Yes tryed the hard reset presing volume down the center button and the hole behind the charging usb and nothing happened
Snince then I can just hear the sound but nothing on the screen at all
Thanks for any advice!
orb3000 said:
Ok this is what I did:
When sof reset not any screen was appearing during the process.
Yes tryed the hard reset presing volume down the center button and the hole behind the charging usb and nothing happened
Snince then I can just hear the sound but nothing on the screen at all
Thanks for any advice!
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Hard Reset the device:
This will wipe all the storage (not the sd card) and your device will be reset to default settings.
Hard reset (option 1)
1. Pull out the stylus.
2. With the device turned on, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN and CENTER buttons, then press the RESET button with the stylus tip.
3. Continue pressing the RESET, VOLUME DOWN and CENTER buttons until you see this message on the screen:
This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press ?VolUp to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel.
Hard reset (option 2)
You can also use Clear Storage to reset your device back to factory default settings.
1. On the ?TouchFlo3D Home screen, slide to the Settings tab and then tap All Settings or goto Start and press Settings.
2. On the System tab, tap Clear Storage.
3. Enter “1234” and then tap Yes.
Hard reset (option 3)
1. Pull out the stylus.
2. Turn device OFF.
3. While pressing the CENTER button, turn the phone on with the POWER button.
4. Continue pressing the CENTER button until you see this message on the screen:
This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press ?VolUp to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel.
This works on at least some Verizon CDMA phones on which option 1 will not work.
Hard reset (option 4)
1. Pull out the stylus.
2. With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN and CENTER buttons, then press and hold the POWER button.
3. Continue pressing the POWER, VOLUME DOWN, and CENTER buttons until you see this message on the screen:
This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to manufacturer default. Press ?VolUp to restore manufacturer default, or press other keys to cancel. (works with Alltel touch pro)
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Ok this is out of the wiki, u see that all methods let u press the vol up button to really start the hard reset than. So on either method do the key presses, wait a while and then press the vol up to start the process.
Its a little try and error because u are not seeing the the actual message to press the vol up. but mybe thats worth to try until u get the point. I think option 3 is a good and easy one.
hopefully the hardreset works, maybe u can try to take a torch or bright sun light to get the display information, if the display itself is not broke u should see a slight shadow of what is written on the display. I had that problem with my wifes phone once and the information was the but its not a reflective display so it was very faint to see.
Finally tho, if all that fails:
RMA = Return merchandise authorization
It means a warrenty return.
It sounds to me like the lcd has croaked. If you dont have suitable warrenty / insurance i'd suggest ebay! i've just found a screen & digitiser for less than £25 (thats for a Raph 100, i honestly dont know if parts are the same on different raph models but i suspect they are)
Good luck!
Thanks a lot guys but nothing worked
I cant do any hard reset option but sound stills hearing perfect
I can understand why one day was perfect and next no screen!!
Can anyone confirm that the LCD Display+Touch Screen For HTC Touch Pro T7272 form the last link will work on my At&t version?
Any other advice?
Thanks in advance
orb3000 said:
Thanks a lot guys but nothing worked
I cant do any hard reset option but sound stills hearing perfect
I can understand why one day was perfect and next no screen!!
Can anyone confirm that the LCD Display+Touch Screen For HTC Touch Pro T7272 form the last link will work on my At&t version?
Any other advice?
Thanks in advance
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Sorry to hear that nothing worked.
Not shure but if the phone fails to hard reset it is not only the screen that is broken ! Take this into account, do u still have warranty, maybe it is better so exchange the whole phone.
Well that is the problem
I live in other country so warranty is not valid here, and there is not a single place where I can take it to repair here
Very strange as one day was perfect ant the next day no screen!!
I took the battery out and then place it again, all works normal, it starts (vibrations feels) then nothing!, I know its turned on because I can move volume up or down and I hear the sound and vibration, if open the keyboard not any light turns on on it.
I´ll wait patient till some member can recomend more options in order to make it work again.
I´m so frustrated...
Thanks anyway for your kind help!
orb3000 said:
Well that is the problem
I live in other country so warranty is not valid here, and there is not a single place where I can take it to repair here
Very strange as one day was perfect ant the next day no screen!!
I took the battery out and then place it again, all works normal, it starts (vibrations feels) then nothing!, I know its turned on because I can move volume up or down and I hear the sound and vibration, if open the keyboard not any light turns on on it.
I´ll wait patient till some member can recomend more options in order to make it work again.
I´m so frustrated...
Thanks anyway for your kind help!
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Dont give up, hope that I not get on ur nerves. But still I think a hard reset must be possible.
When u turn ur device of how do you do that ? When u turn it OFF with the power button you have to answer a question on the screen, u do not see the question but is the touchscreen working or how do you know where the YES/NO field is ??
So another way is take the batt out, and when u insert the batt than turn it on with one of the mentioned hardreset procedures.
There is than a question also but this is answered with the Volume UP button.
Maybe u need a second person for helping with the buttons,
The hardreset must be possible somehow, it cant be a broken touchpro
OK I tried with my phone and procedure 1.
VOL DOWN and CENTER with Phone ON
Then Push RESET with the Stylus and hold all three until:
After 5 seconds the Bootscreen showed, after that the message to press VOL UP for Restore.
You do not see the boot screen but just wait the time
You are so kind my friend!
I have tested all the hard reset options but none seems to work
Aparently I can´t do a hard reset
as every time I follow any process and wait 5 sec, then press vol up and it seems that nothing has happened, not even a soft reset!
Pressed center button and vol down, then press the rest button located behind the usb port (the one with a symbol for headphones....)
But nothing happens.
I´lll upload a small video with me doing the process, hope it helps in anyway
Here the link of the video I took with my problem
https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZW9DQ3QxeWFEbUx2Wmc9PQ
Hope this helps in any clue to solve my mysterious problem
Thanks a lot!!
Ok will wait for the video.
Inbetween another option, did u try to flash the ROM.
Can u get a rom to download from ur provider, to do so ?
After the flash the device more or less does a hardreset.
Update:
saw the video, it seems that the phone is not reacting to the center or the reset button. Because when u push reset, even if it is not in hardreset mode, it should do a soft reset right away.
But ur phone is straight reacting to the Vol keys, very strange.
Is the mentioned ROM update an option ??
What is the reaction when u hock the phone to the pc, is active sync working ?
Do you see the internal memory of the phone ?
Remove the SIM and any memory card, maybe they are causing trouble ?
Exactly, Raphael is not reacting to a hard reset and dont know why?
I´ll keep trying all methods.
Yes, I´ll try to reflash to the original AT&T ROM for Fuze tomorrow as today I am not close to a computer.
If you have any link for that mentioned ROM would be great, if not no problem I´ll find it.
Once again thanks a lot and I´ll keep looking this thread in case someone else have another recommendation
Cheers,
orb3000 said:
Exactly, Raphael is not reacting to a hard reset and dont know why?
I´ll keep trying all methods.
Yes, I´ll try to reflash to the original AT&T ROM for Fuze tomorrow as today I am not close to a computer.
If you have any link for that mentioned ROM would be great, if not no problem I´ll find it.
Once again thanks a lot and I´ll keep looking this thread in case someone else have another recommendation
Cheers,
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Here ya go:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
Take the one matching ur cell phone. Check the thread links for more Info.
Thanks, downloading
Tomorrow I´ll try to reflash and post results later
Cheers,
(Anyone? another idea?)
UPDTATE: I conected raphael to my computer and using pocket controller I can see that all is working ok inside but nothing on the screen, or keyboard lights.
I´ll try to hard reset now...
Hope this can help in order to solve my problem
Thanks
Attached the picture
UPDATE 2: I performed the wipe data from the device, this must be exactly as a hard reset I pressume, and nothing....
So now is there anything I can check to see if there is something loose in the connection from device to screen?
Any recommendations on how to do this?
signal from device working perfect simply does not come to screen or even to turn on light on keyboard
Any help is GREATLY apreciated!!!
What rom did you have? I had a similar problem and just had to rma it.