Audio while in cradle - General Topics

Hi all,
I think this will be a simple one.
I have an O2 XDA Stellar for which I've bought a car cradle. When I dock the phone into the cradle, it mutes the phone.
having spoken to the people I bought the cradle off, they advise me that there should be an option to prevent the phone routing it's audio through the mini usb connection.
Any idea where this option is?
Thanks in advance
Stu

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XDA II Car Kit

Does anyone have the Car Kit sold on the Expansys site ? (see below)
Can I have your feedback on it ?
It's on preorder.... !!!
How can anyone have it allready...
jpiek said:
It's on preorder.... !!!
How can anyone have it allready...
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It's on preorder on Expansys, but maybe not elsewhere ...
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109748
External speaker? Does it have any way to plug the audio into the car stereo?? 3.5mm audio jack would be nice while the microphone continues to function on the Car kit.
I really want to know if this one has a GPS connection, so I don't have to swap my Holux GM 210 for a BT mouse......
Is this for the XDA or the XDA II?
their connector is suppose to be the same so it should work on both of them
Give this one a try it will be out end of this month as they said for the I-mate
and here is the specs :
Item
Seidio G2500 GPS Ready Mount
Power input 12V-24 V DC
Input Power cord - Detachable cigarette lighter cord
- Detachable cable for hardwiring
PDA charging 5.2V, 1200 mAH DC
DC output 5.4 V, 600 mAH DC
4.0 mm DC jack
Receiver connection RJ-11
Speaker 2.0 Watts
Volume control Yes
Audio In: 2.5 mm Jack
Available Color Silver and Dark Grey
Size Cradle Size: 5 in (L) x 3.5 in (W) x 0.7 in (H) (Notes: Height: Exclude height of the PDA holder)
: 128 mm (L) x 82 mm (W) x 18 mm (H)
Weight 4.5 oz
Additional Features Hands Free Speakerphone
PS2 GPS cable adaptors available
Blue Tooth Receiver Charging
Available Models Dell X5
iPAQ 2200 Series
iPAQ 1900/4100 Series
iPAQ 3800/3900/5000 Series
Garmin iQUE 3600
Palm Tungsten T/T2/T3
Treo 600
XDA2/I-MATE/Q-TEK2020
What is in the Box
1 Seidio G2500 GPS Ready Powered cradle with detachable DC power cord.
1 8" Super Strong Suction Windshield Pedestal
1 Slide and Lock Air Vent Pedestal
1 360 Degree Swivel Adaptor
1 Audio Cable (used to enable the speaker)
2 GPS wired receiver adaptor cables (allows to use with most of the wired receivers)
http://www.seidio.com/company/Product/Navigation.htm
How do you order one ?
re
http://www.seidioonline.com/
not sure the xda 2 model is availabe yet though ?
cheers, shire
Doesn't sound like that one has audio out for playing music through the car stereo. I want audio out from the XDA 2 serial port on a car kit!
called expansys today and they said their product will be on pre order till march 16th o4!!!!!!!!
Expansys Now have them in stock mines just arrived not fitted it yet but it looks to be excellent
heres the link if u want one
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109748
AJL said:
Expansys Now have them in stock mines just arrived not fitted it yet but it looks to be excellent
heres the link if u want one
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109748
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Can you confirm it works with the XDA II?
How does it connect to the XDA II headphone jack?
Does it have an external headphone jack?
(Asking this because I'm currently using an iSound FM transmitter to play MP3 from my XDA II through my car stereo.)
Thanks.
Ed
yes its for the xda2 and has an external headfone jack and gps socket
james
Is this a professionally fitted car kit, hard wired into the power and radio system of the car ?
Also can you tell me what sort of GPS socket it has, I have a Holux GM 210 which has a PS2 type connector??
Cheers
Nick
Anybody can hel with professional car kit
Hey everybody,
I purchased the Prfessional car kit from Expansys for the XDA II and I'm having a few problem I hope someone can help me out.
When I inserte the Pda in the car kit this ared the problems I have fvind:
1 No sound from car kit or pda when screen is tap.
2 No sound from car kit or pda.
3 When the Tom Tom Navigator is saying the ruote non sound from Car kit or PDA
4 When an incomingb call is received swound is hear trought pda notg car kit, whedn you answer the call the car kit start working only to receive call.
5 I've noticed that if i put the headset in the 2.5mm jack at the bottom of the cradle the sound is hear throught the headset and it disconnect the car kit.
Any help would be very helpful.
Send already 2 email to expansys no reply call the they say that I can only contact support by email or forum now I'm stuck do no if it is a fault unit or the car kit work in this manner if it does it is useless.
Regards
Gigi
eXpansis Proffesional car kit
I just had the kit installed and it looks ok. The problem is that the audio is only present when I'm on a call and it's only phone audio. What I need is a way to get the PDA audio (i.e. the navigation speaking) to come through either the car speakers or the speaker included with the kit. The fact that call audio comes through both makes me think there are two problems.
- The first problem seems to be that the kit only passes audio to the speakers when the mute signal is live for the car audio. This wouldn't be the case when listening to pda audio (navigation instructions). This seems more like a problem with the car kit which with a bit of work I could prob. get around.
- The second problem I see is that only phone (call) based audio is passed through the car kit. This problem seems to be more with the XDA. I wonder if there is a registry hack to force all audio to look the same. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS IS THE CASE? If so I would really appreciate some pointers on this.
I'm using the Navman 4410 BT navigation system BTW.
Thanks,
Lyndon.
i think it is indeed a software problem.
when i first got my xda2 i made my own carkit
1 cable with audio out to carstereo, connection to my gps, connection to the charging unit
sound like mp3 and voice calling was fine
now when i updated the ROM it doesnt work anymore, i know 100% that my carkit is fine.
akira said:
i think it is indeed a software problem.
when i first got my xda2 i made my own carkit
1 cable with audio out to carstereo, connection to my gps, connection to the charging unit
sound like mp3 and voice calling was fine
now when i updated the ROM it doesnt work anymore, i know 100% that my carkit is fine.
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You made your own XDA2 carkit ?
btw. for the Expansys carkit users: Does it have an GPS-connector ? Some dutch guy at expansys said it didn't. But then again, i had to give him the link before he knew they actually sold XDA Carkits

Safe Talk Handsfree Carkit - How's it work

I ordered the Safe Talk Handsfree Carkit but not instructions were included
-anyone know how it works?
chow
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/images/accs/safetalk.jpg
looks to me as if you just plug the thing into the lighter socker stick the holdero nthe dash put the xda in the holder then clip the charging/speaker bit cable into it and the other wire might be for a mic?
not sure but thats what it looks like to me
Safe Talk kit
thanx 4 trying but I'm still not having much luck with it
I can't believe there are no instructions for this - and I can't seem to find any on the net.
Anyone got this kit and know how to use it?
thanks
Looks pretty simple, plug it into the lighter socket, it looks like there is a plug for the phone as well, if you want to use the mic then use it but I think the pickup on most phone mics are fine for incar use.
using the Safe Talk Handsfreee carkit with the XDA II
cruisin-thru said:
Looks pretty simple, plug it into the lighter socket, it looks like there is a plug for the phone as well, if you want to use the mic then use it but I think the pickup on most phone mics are fine for incar use.
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thanks for that, I have got it 'working' at last
- a little strange how it operates, I've had to plug in the stereo earphones/mic that came with my XDA II into the XDA, and then the carkit unit charger lead plugs into the bottom of the XDA.
- with the carkit unit plugged into the lighter socket and switched on, calls/phone audio is amplified through the carkit unit speaker. and speach is taken from the mic on the stereo earphones.
There is a privacy button which redirects the audio to your earphones.
I don't think it's really 100% compatible with the XDA II which probably goes some way to explain the strange config described above.
safe2talk Car Kit Instructions
after a chat with the company that sold the kit to me I managed to get hold of details of the original seller - ora.co.uk. They were able to fax me through the instruction guide.
(It comments on the phone holder as well, but of course, this is supplied for the XDA II)

Mount, Power, GPS and Audio

Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers
Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?
Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.
pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.
Re: pinout
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here
Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount
Re: pinout
Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.
PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day
I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers
sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!
Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave
Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.
Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP
@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
:?:

help with lead, not even sure what its called!?!

Hi
Ive got a emtac GPS bluetooth reciever and this comes with an in car charger. The charger lead splits into 2 with one side going into the emtac and the other should go into the XDA II
However the connecting lead is missing. So I need a lead that goes from the split into the bottom of the XDA II - I already have a XDA II power connector that goes into the bottom of the XDA so its just the lead to connect the 2?
I hope I have explained that????
Any help would be great
cheers
rich
It would be very unusual for a bluetooth wireless gps to be supplied with a lead that links the pda with the gps, if you have the car charger for the gps and a car charger for the xda then all you need is a double adaptor for your lighter socket to take both chargers. If this doesnt answer your question then try here and look at all the different leads, if your gps uses a standard mini usb plug then you can use the Fortuna lead to power your pda and gps a the same time. If you are going to be using a cable that links both I wonder what the sense is in buying a wireless gps because it rather defeats the object.
hi
thanks for the response, i can see your point about connecting a BT device to a BT XDA with wires - sorta defeats the object!
However I suppose it is saving on chargers?
I already have a 4 way in car adaptor, but one is taken for charging my phone, one for my BT headset, one for the BT GPS reciever and the 4th can only be used for an actual cigarette lighter, meaning I am one short for my XDA
So if I can get the lead to connect the GPS power to the xda then im fully charged!
My car looks like spaghetti junction with all the wires!
cheers
rich

Best Car Holder + Car Handsfree for Desire HD??

I'm more than sure than this has been asked before, But I've already looked at the forum and I found so many different models of car holders and blue-tooths that I already don't know which one might be the best one.
I'm looking for something nice hopefully minimalistic in design.
I already have a car charger with a double USB connector port so I'm looking only for the car holder and a good blue tooth device...
Thanks in advance to everyone, I know how annoying can it be to see some one asking something that it might have been answered before, really thanks.
I Hv the genius HTC desire HD car charger set (free with my phone) , it hold the phone well , only down size is I need to remove the TPU case every time I use it ...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Do you have a link to look at it???
Thanks in advance
I use a brodit passive holder with the the specific pro clip for my car, just looks nice and part of the car. For Bluetooth I connect to the parrot add-on for my kenwood set, 1amp car charger I wired in myself. A bit of work but saves trailing cables over the dash.
The genuine brand HTC Desire HD holder is very capable and secure; Clicky You can use the cable with another 12v socket with USB output; Cable automatically activates the Car Panel, which is useful.
I have a Samsung WEP870 bluetooth headset; Comes with lanyard-equipped stereo headphones which you can plug in to the headset, giving you a solution for music too. Sound quality isn't great, but ok for a walk to the pub.
Thank you all I will take a look
do any of you have problems with the phone not being able to see the cable correct? sometimes mine on car dock see the cable as cable ion car sometimes as connect to pc and sometimes a charger, really weird
I got a universal 1 from Amazon, fits any size. Great purchase.
The Modern-Tech In-Car Dashboard Mount is also very handy to hold the phone on your car's dashboard. It's adhesive, you just have to set the phone on the mat and pull it off later. It's not so great for charging though.
Have you looked into HTC Desire HD Herbert Richter suction mounts?
Where can I look at those???
Here's the link.. Aesthetically, I love the way this particular one looks.

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