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Ok, I want to use the XDAII in the LandRover for mapping, it is noisy in the truck, I also want to play MP3 WMA files via the car stereo.
I have a Garmin eTrex but am willing to get something dedicated if the price is right.
I want a cradle for the XDAII that will hold it securly,
I want to power/charge the XDAII and GPS
I want to get the audio out of the bottom connector into the front of the stereo (3.5mm socket) for music play back (poss hands free phone too)
I still have various bits of hands free kit from when I used to fix 'carphones' in the early 90's. It would be nice if i can fit a mic in car for voice dial and calls too.
If the info on the tech page is correct on the bottom connector it would appear all is straight forward to do myself, However we all know for the cost of the parts I could by something that would do what i want and more. So what will do it. I am unsure on the XDA to XDAII connection compatability.
Current experiance of produced products is a duel universal mount from memory-map, the GPS fits fine but the XDAII just falls out, not good for £30
Cheers
Hi,
I wish the same thing that you. I would like to use the Xda2 with Land Rover Discovery for mapping together my Garmin 3+.
To do this maybe we have to make a serial and power cable or find someone who can make it.
I think the pinage for xda2 is slightly different than the xda1. In myxda.com they said: "Most accessories are not common to both except for the car charger".
If someone here can help us to know what the correct pinage for xda2 than we can make one.
Or we can buy a serial cable from O2 (I am oredering one now) and check what is the pinage used for it and mix with the car charger adapter.
what do you think about it?
Charger from xda1, serial cable, gps, usb cable (charging problem) all work with xda2, cradle also works but you need to shave a little off the inside or you will mark your xda2. I have an arkon cradle/speaker, 2 usb power jacks, speaker jack with 2.5 to 3.5 converter from xda1, this works with xda2 but the rf break through from the phone to the speaker in the cradle is atrocious, i wish I knew how to fix that problem because when you receive a call you have 10 seconds or more of rf noise before you get to hear or speak to the caller, other than that it is fine and comes with lots of different mounting options.
pinout
When I get chance Ill get my scope on the pins and work it out. Ive had my eTrex working, used the standard serial lead for the XDA2 and the eTrex, just made a null modem adapter to connect between em (info on memory map web site) Works well but you have to dissable beaming as i think they share the same comm port.
I was going to buy the eTrex connector to bare ends from Garmin but it doesn't carry power only data!!! typical. Have thought of getting one of the dedicated GPS units.
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead. Id rather not chop up the lead as it cost silly money.
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TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
XDA connector
I need to find a UK supplier of the XDA connector, this would get the cost down. The easy way would be to buy the in car charger, strip it, mount the charger in the box, replace the cable with one that will do all the connections.
Ill try and play, get it set up and post somthing on here
Craddle for XDAII /MDAII
T-mobile germany sells one for €199, INCLUSIVE of sat nav software and wired mouse
Ready to mount
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Sorry. What is the meaning of PSU?
sublimatica said:
TDIPower said:
So the next best option is to have a cable from the XDA2 to a small box, this will have TX/RX audio, power and data. The box will have a PSU for the XDA and a cigar socket to for the eTrex standard lead.
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...and your price for building these for every owner of an XDA2 (cos we're all going to want one! ) will be....?
Sounds like this would be accessory number 1 for anyone with an XDA2 and a car.
I've also got an eTrex, and I bought a serial/power Y-shaped cable last year for it, so they are available. It has a cigarette lighter plug to provide the power, and a serial output too for my laptop. Let me know if you need details - seems silly to buy a new GPS just because you can't get a combined data/power lead for it. It cost me £24 mail order, IIRC.
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PSU
PSU is short for Power Supply Unit. the bit that powers/charges the unit.
Sorry im not used to multi language conversation.
PSU
No problem!
I will learn a little bit every day
I am also currently looking at my options as like you TDIpower, I am trying to use the XDAII in a noisey landy.
I am interested in the parrot ck3000 which according to the blurb connects your phone etc via a bluetooth unit into your stereo unit. I have not looking into all the issues but I assume you would be able to use the phone/navigation and MP3 via this unit through the vehicle speakers to be able to hear whats going on? Mind you when I'm going a full tilt I can hardly hear the speakers either??
I know a couple of others on here have the parrot unit so mybe they could shed some light on this??
Cheers
sdio fm trasnmitor
i do not know if it is exist (sdio fm trasnmitor) but this will be a good solution for this case!
Hey,
Sorry to bring up old posts, but has anyone found a solution for Mount, Power, GPS (etrex) and Audio?
Dave
Have you seen this one ?
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD-SMGF1XDAII
A friend of mine bought one for his iPaq and it's brilliant, just like a cellphone cradle, slide it in, and you are ready to go.
Hi
What you are asking for is available, apart from the sound in the form of the carcomm cradle http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4738_0.aspx.
According to the connector wiring on this site you should be abale to get sound from the bottom connector, but what the connector page fails to tell you is you only get sound out o fthe bottom connector during in a call, so its no use for MP3 or Navigation sounds. Currently I am using the jack plug which is a real pain to plug in. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=50643#50643
Re the Parrot CK3000, I have just taken one out of my car as it did not work with the XDA2 if you have installed bluetooth tools. And without bluetooth tools the bluetooth GPS device would not work. Also you cant currently send sound over bluetooth apart from when in a voice call.
If you find a solution to sound from the bottom connector please dont forget to post.
Good luck
JustinP
@justinp: There appears to be A way to get all sound from the bottom connector.
The T-Mobile MDAII Carkit (QTek2020 carkit and the Yeti carkit are the same make) do just that!
Unfortunately I have this (cheaper) XDAII / iMate (Expansys-sold like) carkit wich only give in-call audio via the bottom connector.
There is someting with pin19 and pin9 (I read on the german www.ppc-welt.info forum).
pin19 must be grounded
pin 9 must NOT be connected (it is on some carkits thus messing up proper operation).
Now if someone can verify this!!
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Anyone know of a headphone audio adapter that will adapt from the rose platform to the iPhone style earphones\microphone combo?
Ideally it would also allow for use of the FM radio on the phone speaker with just the adapter used and no headset.
Looks like these won't pass along microphone functions only but I assume otherwise they would work...
http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-G1-Stereo-Converter-Adapter/dp/B001GNLZTK/ref=pd_sbs_a_6
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Headphone-Adapter-Cable-Google/dp/B00218ZK4U/ref=pd_sbs_a_7
http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Headset-Speaker-Adaptor-phones/dp/B0013URK04/ref=pd_sbs_a_2
Hi, I use the HTC HS U110 adapter for using another set of different earphones with it.
Not sure whether microphone/earphone combo would work with it (never tested). When I had to make calls, there was a little mic on the adapter. And as it was clipped to near my mouth the other person could still be heard.
The adapter you're looking for is sold here.
There's also a coupon for budgetgadgets; SH5OFF which will give you 5% off everything. Free shipping by the way
Got one aswell.
I agree that having an aux jack on the Nexus One car dock would be pretty sweet, but it is what it is, and I wanted to move on... Here is what I did:
Nexus One (duh)
Nexus One car dock (...)
Kensington LiquidAuxbluetooth car kit: us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
Micro USB cable
Plug the Kensington L.A. into the accessory outlet, and connect the audio output plug to your AUX on your stereo. The L.A. provides a USB port to use for the Micro USB cable. (for charging)
Plug the micro USB cable in this port and route to your car dock.
Once you pair your phone with the L.A. place it in the car dock and setup the audio to be whatever combination you would like. I personally use the dock for calls (because the mic is better) and the L.A. for audio.
One accessory outlet, (no splitters) one wire coming from it to the dock, audio routed through the AUX in your stereo, and (IMO) really great call audio thanks to the dock and noise canceling, which still works with the phone in the dock...
Just sharing my experience, YMMV, IANAL, OMG, WTF, BBQ...
Pics - Add http to them to view (I can't post links yet apparently...)
yfrog.com/2r20100415073238j -LiquidAUX Device
yfrog.com/1420100415073316j - Plugged into AUX and has Micro USB connected.
yfrog.com/2m20100415073324j - Cable Routing 1
yfrog.com/j120100415073338j - Cable Routing 2
yfrog.com/4720100415073414j - Wheel wireless remote, media functions work, I couldn't get phone button to do anything, but that may be a settings thing.
yfrog.com/0b20100415073331j - Dock on the windscreen, the stock MicroUSB cable that comes with the phone is pretty 'stiff' and stays in place very well.
Pics please...
Awesome Find.
30 bucks with free shipping on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-LiquidAUX-Bluetooth-Remote-Phones/dp/B0011UIX2K
I'm about to order mine
+ 1. That looks like a really good solution. Another benefit you did not mention is that by powering the Car Dock with the Micro USB cable, you do away with the spiral lead that is on the Car Dock power supply. So easier to route and hide.
Any issues with charging the phone and powering the car dock? Isn't the car doc charger higher output than regular chargers and perhaps the one on the LiquidAux?
how's the music sound quality?
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logger said:
+ 1. That looks like a really good solution. Another benefit you did not mention is that by powering the Car Dock with the Micro USB cable, you do away with the spiral lead that is on the Car Dock power supply. So easier to route and hide.
Any issues with charging the phone and powering the car dock? Isn't the car doc charger higher output than regular chargers and perhaps the one on the LiquidAux?
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No issues I have noticed so far, there is no additional <warmth> on the LiquidAux I have been able to detect, and the phone charges just as quickly as it would when plugged in using OEM adapter. And yes, losing the spiral lead is a nice bonus...
yellowy0y0 said:
how's the music sound quality?
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Sound quality for me is great, there is no interruptions, etc I have noticed. But I suspect that this would be a YMMV kind of thing based on the car stereo used and the distance / path (if that even matters with the relatively short distance) between the LiquidAux device and the phone...
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Pics please...
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um, do you realize you can still use the headphone jack when the phone is plugged into the dock?
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?answer=178184
MonkySlap said:
um, do you realize you can still use the headphone jack when the phone is plugged into the dock?
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/answer.py?answer=178184
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Why yes, but some people in this particular forum were voicing their displeasure of having a mass of wires dangling all over their car / phone etc...
I was offering an alternative, and it worked well for me, nobody said or implied that you need to do it too...
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How long is that cable(the 3.5mm one from the liquid aux). Looks pretty short..
tokyomonster said:
How long is that cable(the 3.5mm one from the liquid aux). Looks pretty short..
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It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
Interesting solution, I like it
Here are clickable links for the lazy
http://yfrog.com/2r20100415073238j -LiquidAUX Device
http://yfrog.com/1420100415073316j - Plugged into AUX and has Micro USB connected.
http://yfrog.com/2m20100415073324j - Cable Routing 1
http://yfrog.com/j120100415073338j - Cable Routing 2
http://yfrog.com/4720100415073414j - Wheel wireless remote, media functions work, I couldn't get phone button to do anything, but that may be a settings thing.
http://yfrog.com/0b20100415073331j - Dock on the windscreen, the stock MicroUSB cable that comes with the phone is pretty 'stiff' and stays in place very well.
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It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
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Hmm. I guess, worst case scenario, I can just buy a short extender.
Another question for you... Does the remote work with the phone? I'm waiting for mine to get here but I had read from many reviews that the control did not work properly with the iphone, just wondering if the nexus one had the same problem.
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awesome writeup... Even if this thing doesn't work to pickup calls I don't care, I always have a bluetooth headset for the car anyhow. I think I'll get an extra socket and mount it all under the dash out of sight.
Even thought you can plug in a wire to the headphone jack I want a solution where I can stick the phone in the holder when I get in, and pull it right out without messing with cables every fricken time... Most the time I don't plug my phone in right now just because of that very reason.
With a nice setup like this I'd plug my phone in every time I get in the car... awesome, Thanks!
Just ordered mine off amazon.. seems like a great price for the product.
Nevermind, reread your first post, missed the info I wanted the first read through. Well, since I'm stuck with this post existing, may as well clarify, you said you can choose to have the phone calls go through the dock with this, right?
furbyslayer said:
It is in fact short (4") while this works fine for my use, YMMV...
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4 inches, is that all you've got? - that is short
I think perhaps you meant 4' or four feet.
yellowy0y0 said:
Another question for you... Does the remote work with the phone? I'm waiting for mine to get here but I had read from many reviews that the control did not work properly with the iphone, just wondering if the nexus one had the same problem.
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The media functions work fantastic with the Nexus, the iPhone does not support track skip, where the Nexus does. I have not been able to get the phone button to start voice dialing like the iPhone does. I have not actually had a call while driving to pickup yet, so I can't say for certain whether that (pickup incoming) works or not...
kitsunisan said:
Nevermind, reread your first post, missed the info I wanted the first read through. Well, since I'm stuck with this post existing, may as well clarify, you said you can choose to have the phone calls go through the dock with this, right?
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I have call audio go through the dock, yes. The LiquidAux has a microphone, but it is quite far away from the the speaker's mouth IMO. Additionally, the dock still uses the extra Michael for active noise cancelling and is quite crisp and clear for calls. (I have so far made several outbound calls with great results.) The music pauses, audio routes up to the dock for the duration of the call, then the music resumed on the car speakers automatically...
Anyone recommend a good car blue tooth speaker? My work van does not have blue tooth and so I bought a Jabra speaker for about $40 last year and it is horrible. Just looking for some help finding a new one, thanks
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Do you have an aux in that you can plug into? If so, I have the miccus mini jack rx and love it. It's small and if you use the usb power cable, it turns on and off with the vehicle (assuming your outlet turns on and off)
vonrandy said:
Do you have an aux in that you can plug into? If so, I have the miccus mini jack rx and love it. It's small and if you use the usb power cable, it turns on and off with the vehicle (assuming your outlet turns on and off)
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nope, no aux plug-in either. Good thought though
Might want to consider just replacing the headset/deck in the van.
Nevermind, I didn't see the word "work" before van. Why not just grab one of these?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16480663?...1=g&wl2=&wl3=21486607510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
The JBL flip bluetooth speaker is pretty impressive. Only thing I dont like about it is theres no forward and reverse button for changing tracks.
This won't help the OP, but along with the thought Kitsune was going to interject, if anyone is looking for a new head unit for their car that has BT hands-free calling & audio streaming, I can highly recommend the relatively new Kenwood KDC-X597 model. Just had one of these installed last week and it pairs & works with the Q nicely (even though you won't find it listed on the compatibility list on Kenwood's website). Easily the best stereo overall I've had in a vehicle.
Does anyone have a recommendation of a bluetooth audio receiver that would plug into my car's aux input? I looked at a few on Amazon, and none of them are fantastically reviewed. I like the idea of not having to plug in an audio cable.
flu13 said:
Does anyone have a recommendation of a bluetooth audio receiver that would plug into my car's aux input? I looked at a few on Amazon, and none of them are fantastically reviewed. I like the idea of not having to plug in an audio cable.
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i was in the same boat until i came across this and went ahead and pledged
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/119477083/vertus-same-bluetooth-audio-on-two-different-speak
I have this Smart mini Aux and I am not impressed with it: http://amzn.com/B008FQW5ZY
-I had to dremel it a bit to make it fit into my radio's recessed aux jack.
-It takes several button presses to get it to connect every time I want to use it in my car
-As hands free phone, quality is hit and miss
-It has a non-standard power connection (3.5mm to USB?!?!)
Based on the Amazon reviews, this Belkin is a better choice: http://amzn.com/B004CLYJ2I
jax5ter said:
i was in the same boat until i came across this and went ahead and pledged
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/119477083/vertus-same-bluetooth-audio-on-two-different-speak
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That's kinda cool. When you get it, report back on the audio quality, please.
flu13 said:
Does anyone have a recommendation of a bluetooth audio receiver that would plug into my car's aux input? I looked at a few on Amazon, and none of them are fantastically reviewed. I like the idea of not having to plug in an audio cable.
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If you can afford $50 then I recommend the Rocketfish bluetooth receiver.
Why? Because it's "APT-X" compatible which means your audio won't be severely compressed like normal bluetooth does. So the highs will be crystal sparkly and the lows will be harder hitting.
Note... you'll have to splice the AC power cord into a USB connector so you can power the device using a USB charger. Easy peasy.
Here it is:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...e&utm_source=AskAndAnswer&utm_content=Default
CZ Eddie said:
Note... you'll have to splice the AC power cord into a USB connector so you can power the device using a USB charger. Easy peasy.
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Easy peasy? Maybe for you. I don't think I've ever spliced anything.
I use this in my car: [edit - can't post links yet] Search Amazon for "HomeSpot NFC-enabled Bluetooth Audio Receiver for Sound System"
Bluetooth is a great convenience, minus the whole pairing part (especially if you use multiple bluetooth devices/receievers like me). The solution? NFC pairing. Tap your GS4 to the top the first time, it will ask if you want to pair, click yes. Everytime thereafter, no user intervention is required, just unlock phone and touch the top of the receiver. Paired.
Sound quality is sufficient for me, I don't notice much difference in it between my other BT devices, and it's priced lower then most other BT receivers that don't even have NFC pairing ($28), although you will need to supply your own cigarette lighter to usb power adapter.
I like it so much I bought 3 of them.
I use the Blackberry ones -- the older version was called "Blackberry Stereo Gateway", and the new model is called "Blackberry Music Gateway". Both work perfectly for car use -- they turn on when the car turns on, and they automatically pair up with my Motorola Photon 4G.
Many car radios have inputs for phone/navigation systems. The main benefit when using that input is that the radio automatically switch to that input when you are making- or receiving a call. I am using a Blaupunkt bluetooth kit myself, but I would probably get a kit from Parrot if I were to buy one today. Preinstalled car radios are usually both difficult and expensive to upgrade with a bluetooth system, but if you are able to program the head-unit and get a second hand bluetooth kit at eBay it "might" be an affordable solution. A troublesome bluetooth system, like most cheap kits probably ends up with, is probably less convenient than just using an earpiece when driving.
If you're just looking to stream music via bluetooth, then a bluetooth audio dongle will work. I bought this and it works great for over a year. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-3...luetooth_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item589b9646aa 3-4 hours per charge. You can also use it while it's charging.
I've been using the Belkin for almost a year now with the S3 and now the S4 and pretty happy with it.
itesla said:
I have this Smart mini Aux and I am not impressed with it: http://amzn.com/B008FQW5ZY
-I had to dremel it a bit to make it fit into my radio's recessed aux jack.
-It takes several button presses to get it to connect every time I want to use it in my car
-As hands free phone, quality is hit and miss
-It has a non-standard power connection (3.5mm to USB?!?!)
Based on the Amazon reviews, this Belkin is a better choice: http://amzn.com/B004CLYJ2I
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my car has native bluetooth and a usb port (designed to support the iphone). Any chance there's a way I can get audio to work via bluetooth? my guess is no, but figured it was worth a shot in asking.
2011 G25X if that helps any...
Your Bluetooth must support media streaming.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=380567439018
I ordered 2 of these when I had my HTC one neither were being recognized on my phone tried it on my buddy's mytouch still didn't work got fed up and dumped them somewhere. Does this work on your s4 Everytime? Or hit and miss?
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smckdwn989 said:
my car has native bluetooth and a usb port (designed to support the iphone). Any chance there's a way I can get audio to work via bluetooth? my guess is no, but figured it was worth a shot in asking.
2011 G25X if that helps any...
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I have one of these for 2012 Nissan Maxima. Google New Potato Tunelink Android, sorry cant post links yet
I have an Aux and Power port in my center console. I leave it plugged in all the time. My S4's Call Audio connects to the cars Bluetooth automatically for phone calls. Media Audio connects to the Tunelink automatically to stream audio. Not perfect but it works. It think they go for 75 on amazon.
gizak said:
I use this in my car: [edit - can't post links yet] Search Amazon for "HomeSpot NFC-enabled Bluetooth Audio Receiver for Sound System"
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That one looks pretty nice. Do you have to power it on each time? Or pair/connect it each time?
SammySack said:
I have one of these for 2012 Nissan Maxima. Google New Potato Tunelink Android, sorry cant post links yet
I have an Aux and Power port in my center console. I leave it plugged in all the time. My S4's Call Audio connects to the cars Bluetooth automatically for phone calls. Media Audio connects to the Tunelink automatically to stream audio. Not perfect but it works. It think they go for 75 on amazon.
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when you say you have an Aux, do you mean a 3.5mm cable? My G25X only has usb
smckdwn989 said:
when you say you have an Aux, do you mean a 3.5mm cable? My G25X only has usb
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My Maxima has an RCA Aux (yellow/white/red) port in the center console right next to the USB/Ipod input. I use a RCA to 3.5mm cable to plug the Tunlink into the car. Sorry I assumed since the Maxima and G25 were so similar they would have the same ports.
So, after reading some of these responses and thinking about it more, here's what I'd really like:
- Something that charges via USB.
- Something that will automatically power on when I start the car (i.e. when it starts charging) and automatically connect with my phone, but will not continue drawing power once the car is shut off.
- Not too crazy expensive.
The 1st and 3rd there are easy enough to determine. Any of the recommended products satisfy the 2nd item there?
gizak said:
I use this in my car: [edit - can't post links yet] Search Amazon for "HomeSpot NFC-enabled Bluetooth Audio Receiver for Sound System"
Bluetooth is a great convenience, minus the whole pairing part (especially if you use multiple bluetooth devices/receievers like me). The solution? NFC pairing. Tap your GS4 to the top the first time, it will ask if you want to pair, click yes. Everytime thereafter, no user intervention is required, just unlock phone and touch the top of the receiver. Paired.
Sound quality is sufficient for me, I don't notice much difference in it between my other BT devices, and it's priced lower then most other BT receivers that don't even have NFC pairing ($28), although you will need to supply your own cigarette lighter to usb power adapter.
I like it so much I bought 3 of them.
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that looks awesome! i am tempted to buy this right now but i already have pledged for that other product