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Guys.. Iam sorry to open this Threat but I have questions I need a answer for and I believe I have read everything.
I want to sell the device and that fore it want also the original SPL back.
My Situation:
I reflashed a reconstructed german htc rom and the original radio it was shipped with.
Question is now.. where can I get the SPL part from? I extracted the reconstructed NBH file and gut an NB file but far as I understood I should get more then one file. I believe this is because it is an recontructed rom. Maybe someone can confirm or denied.
Ok... lucky I am am I have got a second device. This device has never been flashed so far.
I managed to dump the rom and now I have these four RAW files but I have no idea how to create a NBH file from it or even better get the SPL/NB whatever file from it.
Is it possible to get it or does the SPL part only comes with a downloadable original rom.
Sorry guys but Iam a little bit confused at the moment. Hopefully someone can get a lite into dark.
Cheers

forget it for the moment. i guess i have found the part i missed.

Hmm.. no.. I learned nothing.
I have no idea what to do next. I have tried to use kaiserkitchen.12-21-07 to get the SPL/NB file but no idea how to do it.
Help is very appreciated.

Have you tried this link? It may be what your looking for.

Yep.. I did but the pproblem beginns at point 5:
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5. Download NBHExtract and follow the instructions in the link to extract the NB files from the ROM (essentially just copy nbhextract.exe to the temp folder where the nbh file is and run it from a command line - like so C:\temp\kitchen\>nbhextract.exe RUU_signed.nbh
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The problem is that I just have a reconstructed ROM. If I extract the nbh file I just get one NB file back.
Far as I understood with an original shipped ROM I should get more then one.
As I said I have also these 4 RAW files from the other device but have no idea how to get the NB file out from there.

Maybe this procedure for the niki could help you out,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369578
Just use Kaiser tools instead nike ones...but should be same. Have you been able to find an SPL for kaiser already ?
UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 take a look
thommic said:
Yep.. I did but the pproblem beginns at point 5:
The problem is that I just have a reconstructed ROM. If I extract the nbh file I just get one NB file back.
Far as I understood with an original shipped ROM I should get more then one.
As I said I have also these 4 RAW files from the other device but have no idea how to get the NB file out from there.
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Thanks guys!
Just one question. Is the modified SPL illegal or is it ok to have it?
If not i would prefer not to do any experiments with it anymore.
I found some SPLs but I am absolulty not sure if I should use them as I do not know if they are for a Kaiser.
I guess there are differences in the SPL.

thommic said:
Thanks guys!
Just one question. Is the modified SPL illegal or is it ok to have it?
If not i would prefer not to do any experiments with it anymore.
I found some SPLs but I am absolulty not sure if I should use them as I do not know if they are for a Kaiser.
I guess there are differences in the SPL.
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I don't think it would be considered illegal, but for the purposes of warranty, a carrier could refuse coverage if they go far enough as to check your SPL version, since loading non-carrier specific ROMs cannot be done without modding the SPL.

thommic said:
Thanks guys!
Just one question. Is the modified SPL illegal or is it ok to have it?
If not i would prefer not to do any experiments with it anymore.
I found some SPLs but I am absolulty not sure if I should use them as I do not know if they are for a Kaiser.
I guess there are differences in the SPL.
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The main reason why you'd revert back to the original SPL is for warranty return.
If your carrier (or HTC) honors warranty returns from second owner, then it is highly suggested that you revert your SPL back, so that they won't have unforseen problems, should they require to exercise the warranty. You can skip this if they're fully aware of this site and plan to install ROMs anyway
You can find the appropriate Kaiser SPL link in the sticky or the Kaiser wiki, under ROM Troubleshooting.

How to dump your original ROM and keep it ready in case of failures?

Hi,
If i have to keep my original ROM as backup to use in case of serious failures, like i am only able to boot up to boot loader and avoid INVALID VENDOR ID (294) error to reflash sucessfully this ROM. (without using USPL)
do i need to do:
1. create part00.raw, part01.raw and part02.raw using pdocread of exiting phone ROM
2. rename .raw files to .nb
3. run Dutty nbh tool and then???
What i have to provide in:
IPL, SPL, First Splash, Second Splash, OS, Ext. ROM, Radio, Device, CID Type, version, langauge, Signature?
4. Produce RRU_Signed.nbh and use it to flash with ROMUpdateUtility
Am i doing right?
Please help!
Thanks in advance

You really don't need to dump your ROM! Most of the official ROMs are available. Tell me your original ROM and I'll give you a link to it!

frauhottelmann,
I asked this because i came across this situation recently when i mistakenly upgraded my HTC S710 ROM with ORANGE UK latest ROM and in last it said corrupeted. After that i tried every things but it got only stuck at boot-loader.
From bootloader, i tried every ROM from FTP xda but everytime it was INVALID VENDOR ID or Corrupt ROM image. and worst part was; i could not use USPL.
If i would have my original ROM with me, i could have come out of this.
I had to pay some bucks in cash to HTC service and then i got it corrected. They simple put my original ROM in it, nothing else.
Thats why i asked if i have to dump my unique ROM to avoid INVALID VENDOR ID, how can i do this?

frauhottelmann,
Sorry to disturb you, can u help me on this?

So do you have an HTC S710 or the Orange version of it?

its HTC S710

And now the original HTC ROMs don't flash properly? I gues the problem was the orange ROM, if you don't flash ROMs other then HTC (or cooked - they don't use an own SPL) then this should not be a problem any more. If you flash a Orange ROM, you still have to do USPL first, because it's gonna say "No, this is no Orange phone" BUt then it still might screw up the SPL and your stuck. So just be carefull with flashing ROMs from an specific carrier.

you mean,
if i have original default HTC S710 ROM in my phone and if i try to flash with original HTC ROM like "HTC S710 ROM version 1.34.405.1" from boot loader then i should not get any error.
Also if i have Gonzo or your ROM or similar cooked ROM and try to flash with "HTC S710 ROM version 1.34.405.1" from bootloader i should not get any error.
if i have Orange or similar ROM and try to flash with any HTC ROM, failure everytime
If it is true, it would still give enough relief.

This is what I meant! The same would happen with a Vodafone or Dopod ROM!

i have the Vodafone V1415 (which is the same as the rest of the vatious Vox's) and i recently flashed an orange rom to it and it worked fine
before the orange rom, i had Mr Gonzos 6.1 v1.1, and before that, whichever one came on the device
ive never come across anything like that :S
admitedly after finally getting everything right (after various problems with different things) and the phone worked fine, i then managed to drop my vox onto a soft seat in such a way that it bounced off and the screen broke as it hit the floot

Original Htc S710 Bt Rom
frauhottelmann said:
You really don't need to dump your ROM! Most of the official ROMs are available. Tell me your original ROM and I'll give you a link to it!
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Can you kindly show me where to download original BT ROM for HTC S710?
You will save me.
YOSEFE

I see. There is no response to my quest.
I now have to send my phone to my SP, to avoid my dead end experience, how do I backup or do a ROM dump for my original ROM?
Cheers.

Reverting to official RUU with HardSPL

I have been searching all over for this but it's probaly right in front of my face. I read that you need to get rid of SPL.nbh from official ROMS before flashing back with HardSPL. The problem is, the official T-Mobile Wing ROM that I downloaded is an .exe file. How do I go about removing the SPL.nbh file since it doesn't display folder contents or anything, just runs the RUU?
Sorry for the double post, I realized I was in the wrong forum

flipside123 said:
I have been searching all over for this but it's probaly right in front of my face. I read that you need to get rid of SPL.nbh from official ROMS before flashing back with HardSPL. The problem is, the official T-Mobile Wing ROM that I downloaded is an .exe file. How do I go about removing the SPL.nbh file since it doesn't display folder contents or anything, just runs the RUU?
Sorry for the double post, I realized I was in the wrong forum
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I'm uploading a zip file which will have the entire thing already to go.
Just flash your device as you would with any other rom.
Hang tight the link will be available within 10 mins.

Thank you sir. Greatly appreciated

flipside123 said:
Thank you sir. Greatly appreciated
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Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.

One more question. I'm looking to keep HardSPL but I have to revert to original to upgrade ROMS don't I? I want to upgrade to your OT 6.5 ROM

flipside123 said:
One more question. I'm looking to keep HardSPL but I have to revert to original to upgrade ROMS don't I? I want to upgrade to your OT 6.5 ROM
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Okay,
I thought you wanted to go back to the original T-Mobile rom.
If your trying to HARD-SPL your device to install one of my roms or another cooks roms then thats another story.
Please read my FAQ or one of the stickies.

Ok, I think I got it now. So I don't need to revert to the original ROM to flash it since I have HardSPL? Thanks for the help

wen i did this i think i bricked my fone now its at the tmobile screen and it jus staying there

I tried the file that you uploaded here...And it went thru the whole process of flashing the ROM, but after it updated my wing just stays on the T-Mobiel screen and never boots past that.
It had that open touch software on it and I don't want open touch. I want plan old WM 6.0 on there.
I called T-Mobile and got an offical 6.0 update from them, but when I try that one it gets to 1% then says it has a disconneted and I get a connection error.

ttran001 said:
Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.
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So does this work? The two people who did this had problems. I need the phone to be all stock so I can have t-mobile send a free replacement because the screen is going on this wing.
***EDIT:*** Oka so this is the same as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364543&page=2 the first time I tried it it froze at 15% on step 2 so I installed the RAPI CAB like it says. Step two completed, phone rebooted and had white screen then I got error 260 I think. I have the stock t-mobile rom on it and had it on before I did this but it still has the yang from when I did a hard spl. Is there another way to get it to stock or am I doing something wrong? Plug in phone, let it sync, run herald-uspl.exe hit enter and so forth.
***EDIT*** Ok so this time it completed but is now stuck at the T-Mobile screen and I am now unable to even flash because I can't get past it And that damn yang still shows up in bootloader. Well went into bootloader and flashed from there so phone works but the damn yang is still there. And on a side note: Has anyone ever had a problem with their screen going very dark after flashing a rom from here? Phone was fine then I flashed OTP v7.4 TouchFlo 2D Lite.nbh yesterday and at night screen started going dark, would light up when opened in keyboard mode, then switched and then both were very dark and hard to see. I then flashed to OTP v7.3.1 TouchFlo 2D Final.nbh and still dark. Then I flashed to stock rom and have been able to see the screen since.

This is stupid easy to do... im shocked there isnt a post going into detail.
5 steps to going back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2998657&postcount=4

smokeingit said:
This is stupid easy to do... im shocked there isnt a post going into detail.
5 steps to going back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2998657&postcount=4
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Did not work. Do I need to install the cab files again? I know I deleted a file out of the stock rom so it would not overwrite or verify or something but I put that file back, should I not have? This has been a few weeks and still can't get the yang off. Screen on my girls phone is almost dead, she can't even slide it any more so I need to fix the spl so I can send back to t-mobile....anyone ?

this is what i do to get back to the tmobile orginal. download the software from tmobile. I downloaded the newest update from tmobile site. REMOVE YOUR SD CARD. Connected my phone via usb. Launched the update. It has never failed me yet. It is just like updating your phone. tmobile has to take it, it is their update. They sent me a new phone noproblem, matter of fact i have to do it again, the back on the phone keeps getting loose on me. so they are sending me another phone again. hope this helps.

Alternatively you can use the combination of uspl and stock rom ruu to return your device to stock tmobile rom...
1. Enter in to uspl like you were falshing one of ttran001 roms... You can get this HERALD-USPL-beta3 from http://rapidshare.com/files/79249048/Flash_Center.rar
2. ONLY use steps 1 and 2 from the black screen (getting the white screen on your device)...
3. For step 3 in the flasher exit out of the black screen (windows cmd screen) by pressing ctrl+C...
4. Fire up the official ruu from tmobile found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030 or alternatively if you have a tmobile account still active you can get the most up to date rom from http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
5. Fallow on screen instructions...
6. Back to stock rom...

Brick dopod C858
ttran001 said:
Done:
Remove HARD-SPL On The Wing
This is the same tool used to flash your device when it was not HARD-SPL.
I replaced the RUU_Signed file and SPL.nh file already.
It will bring your wing back to the stanard rom as when you first got it.
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Hello freind,
I have been downloaded the above "Remove_HARD-SPL_On_The_Wing.rar" files and flash it to my Dopod C858 which has the Chiness language, I suppose to change the language from chinesse to Englis, After flashing the above files, now the phone is only in bootloader mode.
If you start the phone it will stuck on white screen and turn off.
Please help me how to revive my phone back.
Thanks and best regards
Jhemzz

Hey I'm having the same problem as most of these guys who tried the file. The phone just idles on the white Tmobile screen... does anyone know what to do or how to help?
Please and thank you!

angest90 said:
wen i did this i think i bricked my fone now its at the tmobile screen and it jus staying there
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im having the same problem can anyone help me please?

hotsammysliz said:
im having the same problem can anyone help me please?
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Being stuck at the Tmobile screen isn't a true brick. Just reflash your ROM. (If you're not HardSPL'd, reflash your RUU.)

Remove Hard SPL from bootloader
Hi,
Anyone out there knows if we can remove hardspl from bootloader of Wing. Problem is my mobile displays splash screen, then switch offs by itself. Its been quite some time that I have hardspled it and have been using it. But recently I am facing this issue, so I am trying to move to original RUU and try if it works.
So for that anyone knows if we can remove hardspl from bootloader, because I am only able to enter bootloader. Moreover I tried several original roms from Flash Center as well as through SD card as well, but still be SPL version is 4.70.yang. Anyone knows any other alternative.
Also, if anyone has faced similar problem then kindly advice how you resolved.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Pankaj

How do i remove a flashed rom on my touch hd back to original?

Does anyone know how to do this? help please

Flash it again with an original ROM.

lol. deedee, did this require you digging into the depths of your brain?

lol, keep it simple, just how i like it

It was one of those flashes of inspiration moments.
Great fan of the KISS school of thought.

lol. nifty.

where would i find an original rom to touch HD?

squirtoise said:
where would i find an original rom to touch HD?
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ and SEARCH before posting...
Have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe

so these roms are .exe files. when i flashed my cooked rom it was a .nbh file and i just put it in the root of my storage card and when to bootloader mode. for this original rom thats an .exe file, how would i flash it? please help me because i don't really know. sorry for the inconviences, im still new to this stuff.

................connect your phone using a usb and make sure an activesync connection is active. Run the .exe and go through all the steps. It starts flashing and the percentage bar shows. It finishes and re-boots. Your done ....

and no need to do a hard reset after flashing original rom

thanks. i have one more question. if i flashed a rom using the storage card method, when i change my rom say to another cooked rom, do i just add the new .nbh file to the storage card and delete the old .nbh file containing the old rom?

Me = n00b
I have a touch diamond (gsm) with 6.5 but I wan't to downgrade to the original 6.1 rom from htc's website. Will hard-spl (olinex) prevent me from doing that?
Thanks in advance

No it wont hurt, in fact the hard spl will be reverted back to HTC original one, so all is well. Dont worry and just go for it... just curious, why you flashing back to original?

timmymarsh said:
No it wont hurt, in fact the hard spl will be reverted back to HTC original one, so all is well. Dont worry and just go for it... just curious, why you flashing back to original?
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Check out this thread will explain the whole thing, don't wan't to double up the whole forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502357
Daan

[SOLVED] Going back to Original ROM

Hi guys,
nice work from JockyW, ookba and everyone doing the job to bring us excellent software (pls if i forgot anyone, don't be mad ). I really appreciated the RUU_MAPL_3VOLUTION_WM65_3VO.2.50.112509 for a long time but I will sell my Maple now. It time to move on and try something new. Thats why I need to go back to the Official HTC ROM. I just cannot get it to work...
Obviously just flashing the original HTC Rom won't do the job because of the Hardspl, but how do i get around this. I just need some help on going back.
Thanks in advance, UKFencer

160 hits and nobody got an idea...? Or is the answer too simple?
If i am missing something pls point me to it.
Thanks,
UKFencer

Sorry, I don't think I have any idea. I *think just flashing the original ROM should work, I have upgrade/downgraded other phones with factory/custom roms with no problem. I have a question on top of yours. If I don't Hard SPL, what do I lose? There's a thread about downgrading the HardSpl to 1.19 or 18, I don't know if that helps. I would like an answer to my AT&T question as well. Sorry about hijacking your topic but I at least bumped it.

Download original rom in HTC website. Thats all.

Or you could use goldcard model to flash back to original WWE ROM

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Or you could use goldcard model to flash back to original WWE ROM
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where can i get that?

Sorry, for not replying any earlier, but was finishing my finally year project...took longer than i thought...anyway now i back to re-install the original firmware...
@Sonnguyen
doesn't work because of HardSPL...tried it.
@alinkwok
yeah, i've read about it...without a seccond mobile, i'll have to buy the software if i recall correctly.
So, any other tips where to look for howtos...?
UKFencer

Have you ever imagined looking into Wiki
If I were your Maple buyer I would apreciate more to have it upgraded to a cooked ROM, rather to have ugly stock.
You can go back and install any ROM you want

orb3000 said:
Have you ever imagined looking into Wiki
If I were your Maple buyer I would apreciate more to have it upgraded to a cooked ROM, rather to have ugly stock.
You can go back and install any ROM you want
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Yes, I agree with your sentiments regarding the ROM, point is however that once the custom ROM is flashed with the Hardspl, the original ROM cannot be flashed back, which is sometimes required, especially if something happens to the phone and it has to be returned for repairs etc to the retailers.

Strange, it´s the 1st time I know that an HTC device can´t go back to original ROM...
I´ll do some research...

The original SPL is included in the package you downloaded from here..... Just have to use it, flash original rom, and you are on your way....

How exactly do I flash the original spl nbh file? I tried replacing the hard spl nbh with the original and running RUU but the spl remained the same.

you need to get the one from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558003
there is a folder marked original spl in there. it is the same process you did when you put the hard spl on there, just using the original nbh