3G PDA phone for Tmobile USA - General Topics

Hi,
I am on Tmobile USA currently and waiting for it to launch 3G in my city. Reports suggest that it will do so on Oct 1. Do you have any information about what kind of PDA phones with 3G support will it launch?
Alternatively, what kind of PDA phones out there will be able to utilize 3G on Tmobile in USA? I am currently looking at buying Touch Diamond, but don't think that it will be able to use 3G on Tmobile USA.
thanks for your input.

here's a prior thread on the same question...maybe some info there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2428865

galaxys said:
here's a prior thread on the same question...maybe some info there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2428865
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thanks for the link, however that thread is old and doesn't have any information about what PDA phones can be used! thanks anyways

yeah, it's hard to get a straight answer from t-mobile! I just called the store and they said 3G is aproved for my area (Las Vegas)...but they are waiting on the new devices for it? They said one would be the google android, some blackberys, bla bla... They are not going to get many customers with that 3g bandwidth, since all current ppc's will not work.

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AT&T "Tilt II" Touch Pro / Raphael Discussion

Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
north american version has passed your ffc fcc? federal communication ...
kareem9nba said:
Wish us ATT users can know if it's going to be picked up or the x1 :\.
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99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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Well I don't know whether to be happy or said :S and i hope the X1 wont outperform it.
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
I will snoop around on my side and report anything to this thread with any positive news.
Lol, I would say they're that bad , however i can imagine them releasing it sometimes in Q4 (October-ish?) or early Q1 of next year.
I thought CDMA version is coming out first for Verizon. or was it for Sprint... I read it somewhere in Engadget or BGR.
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
Why does the US seem to get this stuff last? I blame it on the carrier cartel that refuses to adopt the mobile phone industry models the rest of the world has.
If the only experience with HTC i had was my wizard, I'd be all over the Raphael. I paid 588USD for the tilt (off-contract) and get the shaft from them. Now, I'm up for a phone upgrade, and I'd really, really like to get my hands on this device, but I don't know if I trust them anymore.
Still LOOKS kickass, though.
AllTheWay said:
99% sure this device will be on AT&T. Some prominent member informed me that they have a AT&T touch pro ROM
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well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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That hos nothing to do with it. Verizon, Tmobile, and all the US carriers can pick up the phone. Whether another carrier decides to pick it up or not doesn't mean that ATT wont.
M3XICAN5 said:
well im 100% sure its not
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
tmobile ftw along with the diamond
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I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
AllTheWay said:
I will prove you wrong in a couple of days.
By your analysis that means the T-Mobile in the USA would have the MDA Vario III which they don't.
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i have talked to a certain someone... might not have to wait a couple of days to prove this person wrong...
The Juggler said:
Isn't the Raphael/ Touch Pro missing the GSM 850 freq? I thought AT&T uses GSM 850/1900.
Seems like it's made to be a T-mo device. (GSM 900/1800)
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there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
shogunmark said:
there is a rumor that the missing band can be enabled by a radio firmware upgrade!
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I would be VERY surprised if the Raph couldnt be sorted out like this, remember the Hermes didnt have necessary bands for telstra in AU which was eventually sorted with a hack to allow the necessary frequency to be used.
Details details people, if AT&T were going to use it i imagine the bands situation would be trivial, im sure they are going to carry it.
herg62123 said:
this will be called tilt II for at&t. this is a rumor i heard from a friend from at&t wireless side.
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Why would they call it a "Tilt"? The Touch Pro's screen doesn't tilt like the Kaiser does it?
lavalamp said:
I can only assume, AT&T will need to have their own "uniquely named" device and not the vanilla Touch Pro the rest of the world will enjoy. This in itself will add 6 months to any official release date of the Raphael in North America. I hope I'm wrong.
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You and I can hope but I'm 98% sure you're right. Trends point to AT&T releasing this sometime next year, as to not disturb the X1 and without the front facing cam. Right now it seems like Sprint is going to get this first as they're getting the Diamond sometime in September.
OK well lets just say in a matter of days we shall see if AT&T WILL be carrying the Raphael..............or not.

what is sprint?

hello all,
i am about to buy an htc touch pro from ebay but that "sprint" word is confusing me. even i have been looking for it on internet and xda-developers site couldnt find information. As i am in ukraine, will it be a problem using it here? or it is just smt like a gsm service and i will not be able to use the service here?
You are not searching hard enough. Any search engine with the title "sprint touch pro" will give you the top returns of a US CDMA carrier called Sprint having released it's version of the Touch Pro.
NOT GSM as you are looking for. The same confusion exists on this forum where the name Raphael/Touch pro has become quite generalised and convoluted as it may cover either the GSM or CDMA version.
Keystone said:
You are not searching hard enough. Any search engine with the title "sprint touch pro" will give you the top returns of a US CDMA carrier called Sprint having released it's version of the Touch Pro.
NOT GSM as you are looking for. The same confusion exists on this forum where the name Raphael/Touch pro has become quite generalised and convoluted as it may cover either the GSM or CDMA version.
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Exactly. Sprint decided to keep the Touch Pro name, and they are a US CDMA carrier and it WILL NOT work on GSM networks.
You want an HTC branded GSM Touch Pro.
i see. thanks for help. seems like i need to wait a bit more to buy.
Sprint is a phone company here in the U.S.
Google.com is your friend.
insomniack said:
hello all,
i am about to buy an htc touch pro from ebay but that "sprint" word is confusing me. even i have been looking for it on internet and xda-developers site couldnt find information. As i am in ukraine, will it be a problem using it here? or it is just smt like a gsm service and i will not be able to use the service here?
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I've seen some pretty worthless threads in my lifetime but this one might top them all.
Congratulations!

HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) 3g on Tmobile US network

Hi all,
Can anyone confirm that the Kaiser can fully utilize 3g data on the TMobile US 3g network? I have seen several (old) articles that pre-date the release of the Kaiser saying it may be the 'first 3g windows mobile phone available'. I have the opportunity to get an AT&T tilt from someone I know, but before I go through the process of unlocking the sim and flashing the ROM I'd like to know if it is worth my while. I've been waiting for the pharos traveler 137 to be released for a few months now but I know that Tmobile has no interest in carrying it ( I talked to a few service reps, and they just play dumb and say they've never heard of pharos or a 3g capable WM phone). So without the plan upgrade discount the phone is going to be $600, all for the luxury of using the 3g network on a phone that actually supports msexchange email.
between aardvark ( company developing ms direct push app for android), the pharos smartphone, and getting info on this TyTn II i feel like I've been doing a whole lot of waiting for a phone that has what I feel are two very basic features nowadays on other networks
Comments appreciated,
djrakun said:
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm that the Kaiser can fully utilize 3g data on the TMobile US 3g network? I have seen several (old) articles that pre-date the release of the Kaiser saying it may be the 'first 3g windows mobile phone available'. I have the opportunity to get an AT&T tilt from someone I know, but before I go through the process of unlocking the sim and flashing the ROM I'd like to know if it is worth my while. I've been waiting for the pharos traveler 137 to be released for a few months now but I know that Tmobile has no interest in carrying it ( I talked to a few service reps, and they just play dumb and say they've never heard of pharos or a 3g capable WM phone). So without the plan upgrade discount the phone is going to be $600, all for the luxury of using the 3g network on a phone that actually supports msexchange email.
between aardvark ( company developing ms direct push app for android), the pharos smartphone, and getting info on this TyTn II i feel like I've been doing a whole lot of waiting for a phone that has what I feel are two very basic features nowadays on other networks
Comments appreciated,
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Works Good Dude!! i'm in CT, in USA and have used a kaiser with my tmobile sim, works faster
unfortunately, you get Edge only. Few PPC's have tmob 3G off the wall 1700/2100 mhz radio combo. The G1 has it, and maybe a few other New PPC's.

HELP Buying Touch Pro for Australia

I live in Australia and I'm thinking about buying a Touch Pro from USA since it seems cheaper. I was wondering is there anything I have to look out for that might stop it form working here. Eg. Network issues.
I'm thinking about this one
Hi,
The phone in the link operates on the CDMA network, you'll want the GSM version (the one that uses a simcard). It is also network locked and will need to be hacked/unlocked.
Very cheap though...
Thanks
Some of them say A & T service required for some of the features. What does that mean?
you don't really need to "hack" it. just get someone to create your unlock code for you. you can get it here on xda or even ebay. I believe olinex can provide you the unlock code for a price. I can gaurantee that these guys here at xda are very helpful so dont' worry about that too much.
you should think about what band your provider in aus is using.
Good luck!
EDIT: those "features" are ATT specific and you can make those disappear. check the links on "unbloating" your phone. It's pretty annoying but it does not do anything for your phone if you don't use ATT's network. Check out the thread on flashing for beginners. Read it carefully and if you have questions, be very specific.
Thanks for the help. I been using a jasjam (hermes) with a flashed rom but the hermes is in bad condition so thinking about getting a new phone.
Dood, I'm in Aus and also upgraded to Touch Pro from JasJam.
A warning. You will not get Telstra NextG video calls. The touch pro does not operate on Telstra's band. Just in case you were/are a Telstra man...
Also, you should be able to ebay a cheap as new unit in Australia... I've seen many go for under $300.
A brand new phone for less that $300???
What are you searching "HTC touch pro"?
Touch Pro or Fuze in Australia?
Mate, check the 3G/UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA frequencies used by your provider!!!
The TP AND the Fuze will work AS PHONE in almost any GSM network (beside some Asian countries i.e. Japan) since they are 4 band GSM devices. However, using the benefits of high speed data aka 3G you have to check which band your provider is using. AFAIK Telstra is using 850/1900 which matches the ATT US network while t-mobile and the std. TP use 900/2100. IF you are with Telstra get a Fuze and it will work. People here in the US buy the HD (not offered here in the US by ATT) in Australia to operate it in the US network.
Good luck and don't get screwed.

U.S. Cellular

I'm planning on pre-ordering the phone very soon, but have one question: will it work in America? I'm going to Florida - for 2 weeks - in December and while the phone won't have any issues with cellular bands in UK, I'm not sure if this can be said in America.
Possible carries are Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. Can someone answer this for me, so I won't have to worry about getting a budget phone just for the trip there?
Hi
I can suggest you should go into the link and i will hope you will get your answer .here is the link(http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Unlocked-International-Warranty-Original/dp/B00AXXOXKW ) . Thank you

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