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Hello, I am selling my HTC TOUCH PRO - Raphael. It has been used for 2 weeks.
The condition is AS NEW. There are no scratches, marks or dents at all.
Screen Protector was fitted from the day of purchase.
It comes boxed with all accessories that I have received with it.
It is unlocked to all networks and Hard SPL will also come installed on it. Unless you want Stock SPL installed. Any Rom of your choice will come installed or Any stock rom will come installed. You choose.
This phone has a small vodafone logo at the front and at the back.
I am not putting up any pictures because this is my only camera.
I will ship to the E.U. and will get proof of postage which means I have really posted it. Postage will be next working day for the UK using royal mail special delivery and for the rest of the countries will be 3-8 working days.
Payment is by paypal. Price that I want is 400GBP including postage.
This is a very cheap price because they are very expensive on shops.
Any questions please ask here on this thread. Or PM me.
I am a genuine person. The only reason I am selling this is because I have ordered a new TOUCH HD from play.com using my credit card. and will have to pay for it in the next couple of weeks. Therefore need to sell this ASAP so I can pay for the other one. Otherwise BANK will kill me. LOL
PS: paypal is gone highly secured now. They have removed their protection limits so that means if you buy the phone for 1000 POUNDS you are protected for the FULL ammount. UK postage will be covered up to 500 POUNDS insurance. International Postage will not be covered with insurance but it will be posted using the safest method of posting from Royal Mail.
PRICE: 400GBP INCLUDING POSTAGE. ANY QUESTIONS ASK HERE OR PM.
Thank You
Do you really think you can get that much price?
I've got a brand new in box with seal not even broken for 310 from ebay, the normal price on ebay for brand new is between 350-380
Good luck!
mephistodan said:
Do you really think you can get that much price?
I've got a brand new in box with seal not even broken for 310 from ebay, the normal price on ebay for brand new is between 350-380
Good luck!
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Hello, Thank you for replying.
I am sorry to tell you that you are mistaken, the cheapest price on ebay currently is 420pounds plus postage. If i put my phone on ebay I can deffinately get 400 including postage for it. If you got yours for 310 then you are very lucky. My reason to put it in here is that I am giving a chance to buy this phone to someone that is a member of this community. If i do not sell within a couple of days. I will put it on ebay. Thank You
I don't think it's really necessary to strike doubt in potential buyers' minds in the seller's thread, if you don't agree with his price, don't buy his phone. I feel bad for the rest of the world, including you guys in the UK who are trying to sell your Raphael, once the Fuze releases there will be a flood of unlocked European Touch Pro's on the market. Good luck with the sale.
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I don't think it's really necessary to strike doubt in potential buyers' minds in the seller's thread, if you don't agree with his price, don't buy his phone. I feel bad for the rest of the world, including you guys in the UK who are trying to sell your Raphael, once the Fuze releases there will be a flood of unlocked European Touch Pro's on the market. Good luck with the sale.
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I hope i sell it before the fuze comes out. Well you had 2 already.
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I don't think it's really necessary to strike doubt in potential buyers' minds in the seller's thread, if you don't agree with his price, don't buy his phone. I feel bad for the rest of the world, including you guys in the UK who are trying to sell your Raphael, once the Fuze releases there will be a flood of unlocked European Touch Pro's on the market. Good luck with the sale.
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Well considering the dollar is weak compared to the Euro or GBP wouldn't be suprised if people buy the HTC Fuze from the US. $500 bucks for a Fuze is great considering what somebody in Europe is going to pay. Granted you are losing the front camera.
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Well considering the dollar is weak compared to the Euro or GBP wouldn't be suprised if people buy the HTC Fuze from the US. $500 bucks for a Fuze is great considering what somebody in Europe is going to pay. Granted you are losing the front camera.
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And you're losing 3G, the Fuze is dual-band UMTS 850/1900.
Not likely for them to buy it for that reason.
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And you're losing 3G, the Fuze is dual-band UMTS 850/1900.
Not likely for them to buy it for that reason.
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Good point. Didn't think of that.
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And you're losing 3G, the Fuze is dual-band UMTS 850/1900.
Not likely for them to buy it for that reason.
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Fuze is tri band UMTS. This one is Dual Band
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Fuze is tri band UMTS. This one is Dual Band
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Why would the US version be tri-band while the European version is dual-band? It doesn't make sense... I can't say I've seen a retail box yet, until then I'm not sure.
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Why would the US version be tri-band while the European version is dual-band? It doesn't make sense... I can't say I've seen a retail box yet, until then I'm not sure.
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Coz the FUZE which is the US version accepts the all the UMTS bands. I have read it on review. If you want I can send u the link. But my question is why the hell AT&T or SPRINT or any US network remove the front camera from their phones?
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Coz the FUZE which is the US version accepts the all the UMTS bands. I have read it on review. If you want I can send u the link. But my question is why the hell AT&T or SPRINT or any US network remove the front camera from their phones?
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Because they don't support video calling. The Fuze certainly doesn't support ALL of the UMTS bands, that'd be a penta-band UMTS phone. 850/900/1700/1900/2100. If anything it does one of these 2: 850/1900 or 850/1900/2100.
actually its triband umts!! i was really surprised when i bought it as well. I can definately see the fuze being in more demand than the touch pro, as its truly a world phone. here is a picture for the doubters, right off the box of my at&t fuze:
doesnt that also make you think that the touch pro has these bands, but they need to be enabled via software? i know that people have been working on this un-successfully for a while, but it makes no sense for htc to make two different chips.. seems un-necessarily expensive and makes no sense, why would they want to limit such an expensive phone??
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actually its triband umts!! i was really surprised when i bought it as well. I can definately see the fuze being in more demand than the touch pro, as its truly a world phone. here is a picture for the doubters, right off the box of my at&t fuze:
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I stand corrected, thanks for the proof.
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doesnt that also make you think that the touch pro has these bands, but they need to be enabled via software? i know that people have been working on this un-successfully for a while, but it makes no sense for htc to make two different chips.. seems un-necessarily expensive and makes no sense, why would they want to limit such an expensive phone??
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Well, yes and no. Normally you'd say "oh man the Touch Pro has to support tri-band"... If that's the case, okay, 900/2100, and what? 1900? 850? Either way it's not supporting both North American UMTS bands unless it's a QUAD-band UMTS phone. We're forgetting the Touch Pro isn't 850/2100 or 1900/2100, it's 900/2100. So are you saying the North American version can have 900mhz UMTS unlocked via software as well? The Tilt was tri-band, I don't see quad-band UMTS in these phones, that's just my opinion.
Quoting myself from the Blackstone (HD) forum......
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I have the HD (collected from HandTec on Thursday) - I also have the Diamond and the Pro and so have been comparing them constantly for a few days now.
My conclusion so far for what its worth - the HD is NOT an upgrade from the Pro or Diamond - it is in fact a very different phone and should be considdered in its own right and not compared. As a business user - stick with the Pro - for general phone use - go for the diamond - for entertainment on the move - the HD "may" be the phone for you? I'll be sticking with my Pro for general business use and will continue to work on the HD for now....
Hope this helps......
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Nooooooo..... DON'T DO IT......!!!!! if you've ordered the HD as an upgrade from the Pro - send the HD back to play unopened - you'll be dissapointed....
If it was a completely different "phone" experience you were looking for then you'll be fine but if your expecting a step up from the Pro to the HD then you'll be dissapointed...... Sigh....
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I think the HD is really my kinda phone honestly, I love everything about it. I'm someone who doesn't own a digital camera, so my phone is my only camera... 5MP? Perfect. I also don't own an mp3 player... Headphone jack? Awww yeahhh! Keyboard would be nice, but with a 3.8" screen I'd be fine. The only thing that kills me is the lack of 3G, I do absolutely everything with my phone, and edge just won't cut it (no pun intended).
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Quoting myself from the Blackstone (HD) forum......
Nooooooo..... DON'T DO IT......!!!!! if you've ordered the HD as an upgrade from the Pro - send the HD back to play unopened - you'll be dissapointed....
If it was a completely different "phone" experience you were looking for then you'll be fine but if your expecting a step up from the Pro to the HD then you'll be dissapointed...... Sigh....
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Thanks for the advice but the HD is the best for me. 3.8inch WVGA. MOVIES oooooooo. 3.5mm audio jack ooooo again. This is the real iphone killer. Coz it has everything that the iphone has and other better thinggs. I LOVE IT. I am just waiting for it to arrive.
buying htc touch pro
hi, im interested of buying htc touch pro (2nd).
but i already made a deal (not pay yet) with a company. actually im doubting to their company as too many website are difference prices given.. they'd offer me to buy htc touch pro (new/unlocked)with just 280usd (1,000myr-im malaysian). so i didnt make a transaction via western union that their ask coz im feeling something in it.i dont want to get any risky and be victim...
so what about price now..i hope its realy reasonable for me as a student..
Like many of you, I have been a loyal HTC customer since 2004 when I bought my first HTC product. I have been buying at least one new HTC product each year since then. However, beginning two or so year ago, HTC stopped selling unlocked phones with 3G Radios which worked in Europe and the U.S.
For example, a few years ago when the HTC TyTN came out, we U.S. customers could pay a bit of a premium and buy an unlocked HTC TyTN which had 3G radios which worked in the U.S. and Europe before the the HTC TyTN variant (Cingular 8525) officially came to the U.S. many months later. The same was true of the HTC TyTN II (AT&T Tilt or 8925).
Beginning with the HTC Rafael (AT&T Fuze) a couple years ago, the unlocked phones offered directly from HTC had no 3G radios for the U.S. Next, the HTC HD Blackstone and then the HTC Touch Pro 2 were offered unlocked, but without radios that could work on U.S. 3G networks.
This makes me very angry for several reasons. First, AT&T is undoubtedly the best GSM carrier stateside in terms of 3G coverage. (Hopefully T-Mobile will catch up someday). All U.S. customers (if they want 3G) have to wait for months to get the hot stuff. By the time the new device arrives, it's old news and out of date (the HTC Tilt 2 for example). AT&T will undoubtedly receive all the good stuff last because of its exclusivity with the I-Phone which makes all the other manufacturers want to release their new stuff elsewhere first. (I don't blame them for this.).
Secondly, AT&T's branding is absolutely atrocious. I'd like to get my hands on the idiot at AT&T who keeps screwing up perfectly good QWERTY keyboards with AT&T idiotic silver keys and insane layouts. The silver wears off and makes the keys hard to see in bright light. The layout is insane because they change the masterful HTC layouts and have even changed patters from their previous keyboards. The caps and function keys have been switched. Whoever is in charge of keyboard layout should be fired and not allowed to work in the industry again.
Business people who live in Europe and travel to the U.S. should be equally upset. Their expensive unlocked HTC products won't pick up a U.S. 3G signal.
Am I the only one who doesn't like this trend? I think not. We all need to band together and push HTC to putting a bunch of 3G radios in its products. Personally, I'd like to see some unlocked products which had the following 3G bands - 850/900/1700/1900/2100. Or what about 850/1700/1900/2100 so that it could be used on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the States and also in Europe? No, they cannot do that, the carriers would have to actually compete on quality of service and price rather than on what phone they have.
I suspect that the hardware is not a limitation. If it is the limitation, the manufacturers could make plug in modules that could go from one frequency set to another. I bet that the reason the radios are limited is due to the totally anti-competitive practices of the U.S. carriers.
This is total B.S. Every single HTC customer who travels between the U.S. and Europe should complain to HTC about this. Can we get some kind of joint letter, etc, going?
I'd be interested to hear all responses. I'm frankly fed up.
I'm personally pretty frustrated with this issue. AT&T really f*cks up their keyboards, and adds so much crap to their devices. I'd have thrown my Tilt and Tilt2 out the window if I hadn't learned about cooked ROMs. The keyboard is the absolute worst, though. Whoever at AT&T decides to ruin the otherwise great keyboards on the unlocked devices needs to be shot. And as you said, they decided to change the CAPS and FN key positions, after I already learned to type the opposite way for two years.
However, the antenna hardware is a limitation, in a sense. Meaning, you can't enable the US 3G bands on an unlocked device if they internal hardware antenna doesn't support it. In a podcast with Mobility Digest, one the legendary producers of HardSPL (Olipro) said that he's hacked radios and SPLs to allow all the frequencies to be utilized, and there was no signal, because the antenna hardware was not able to pick up the frequencies.
I think the real problem is the carriers. AT&T doesn't want people to buy an unlocked AT&T compatible phone that I can use without an expensive data plan that I'm locked into for 2 years. They also don't want me to buy a phone that also supports T-Mobile, so I can decide I don't like AT&T and take my phone with me, 3G coverage and all. So what AT&T does is pressure HTC not to release an unlocked version with their 3G frequencies supported. You're absolutely right when you say that quality of service should be the deciding factor in a network, not the phones they sell.
I went through and other frustrations with HTC and at one point I swore I'd never buy another HTC phone again. Then I went and bought an iPhone. Problem is, while the iPhone is a pretty sweet phone, AT&T is still the same scumbag company regardless of what phone you own and Apple is even WORSE than HTC. Unless you jailbreak the iPhone, you can't do anything interesting with it and you're totally at the mercy of Apple and AT&T as far as apps and what you can do with them. Take Slingplayer, for example. It works over wifi, period. I can get it to work over 3G if I jailbreak the phone and install a utility that makes it think it's using wifi, but how much longer is jailbreaking going to be available? Apple is going to great lengths to put an end to jailbreaking thought patching the exploits that allow it to work and legally by trying to make it illegal to jailbreak it. You can't use your own sounds for message notification, you can't customize the screen, you can't do a lot of things. So Apple and AT&T take a nice phone and totally f**k it up. And that's why I'm back to using an HTC phone. In the grand scheme of things, HTC and Microsoft are, by a wide margin, the lesser of the two evils when put against Apple and AT&T.
I understand that HTC has limited the hardware so that even with the right software, the phones won't pick up frequencies for which they don't have hardware or antennas. It cannot be a big deal.
Always the optimist, I believe that if everyone who used this forum wrote HTC a letter demanding that they start putting the hardware in their phones to operate on multiple 3G networks, something positive might happen.
HTC has it in their power to make and sell unlocked phones. Five years ago, you never saw HTC's name on the phones. It was always, Cingular, T-Mobile, Siemens, Audiovox, etc. Now you see HTC doing direct advertising in the U.S. However, I don't think it will have any effect. The ignorant masses are so I-Phone crazy. The name HTC doesn't mean thing to them.
Soon that I-Phone will be sold on all the U.S. networks. HTC could advertise directly and sell tons of phones if the phones were unlocked and worked on multiple 3G networks. This is one of the principles of "Net Neutrality". People hate to be tied to any certain network. This idea of locking the customer into a two year contact to get a stinking phone is outrageous. Sure, the initial outlay for the phone is small, but the carrier more than makes it back with high than needed data connection fees. In the end, the consumer gets the shaft.
If HTC offered an unlocked phones with U.S. & Europe 3G, I'd buy a new one every few months if the phones were any good. I want an HTC HD2 right now. I'd also like to try an HTC Hero in a GSM 3G too. But I'll have to wait several months and hope my carrier gets it.
Let's not sit back and let this sorry situation continue. Let's spread the word and go after the HTC and get the message out there.
I'm not Dissatisfied with htc in regards to travel. But I am Dissatisfied with htc in regards to OS Updates. I dont think that HTC should allow the updates to be Choosen by the carrieer.
Example: HTC Touch Pro some carrieers are updateing to 6.5 and others are not.. and what pisses me off is HTC Touch Pro was designed for 7 then MS decided to push the release date back. so ALL Touch Pros should get the 6.5 update and when 7 comes out they should also get the 7 update aswell..
I'm so tired of this.. yes XDA is a good place to go for the updates but I should not have to rely on xda to give me the update.
I sware my next phone is going to be the apple iPhone.
radio stacks as far as I see it is not something htc are making a range of
they make one for each device and then make newer versions to tweek or fix issues with the first ones
the newest should in general be applied
about 3g frequencies diff between usa and the rest of the world is hardware differences not radio stack differences
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radio stacks as far as I see it is not something htc are making a range of
they make one for each device and then make newer versions to tweek or fix issues with the first ones
the newest should in general be applied
about 3g frequencies diff between usa and the rest of the world is hardware differences not radio stack differences
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The radio software is not the problem. It's the hardware. The hardware is deliberately made so that it only works on certain networks. I'm sure that cost and design are not the problem.
HTC needs to get back to devices that are true 3G 'world' phones! They have already lost a lot of the business folks!! Bring on the petition!!!
Agreed
I totally share your frustration. Similarly, due to heavy use I tend to buy a new phone yearly, Starting with Cingular 8150. I have many times purchased the same phone more than once, since no new devices were available when I needed a new phone. I am completely frustrated with being part of the largest consumer market in the world, yet only getting the latest technology more than a year after the rest of this planet. HTC has already lost an opportunity, by failing to fully and effectively advertise its products to Joe public, who was dazzled with the Iphone when it was first released. The fact remains that when we watched these Iphone adds, none of us was ever impressed with these features since they have been available to us for a long time with our HTC phones.
Rambo, I would like to encourage you to make a petition, as few of us are able to articulate this issue as well as you can and I would invite everyone to sign it, as a consumer block numbering in the thousands we can have our voices heard.
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HTC needs to get back to devices that are true 3G 'world' phones! They have already lost a lot of the business folks!! Bring on the petition!!!
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petition? just dont buy their garbage!
i havnt bought another htc since the htc tytn, that is like 4 years ago?
my previous phones, Imate 6150, Imate 9500, Eten X800, Sony X1, Acer F900, and now Acer neotouch S200, just preorder Acer Liquid, and soon Sony X10. what does all these phones have in common? they all works on ATT USA 3G! HTC can take their junks and stick it u know where! haha
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petition? just dont buy their garbage!
i havnt bought another htc since the htc tytn, that is like 4 years ago?
my previous phones, Imate 6150, Imate 9500, Eten X800, Sony X1, Acer F900, and now Acer neotouch S200, just preorder Acer Liquid, and soon Sony X10. what does all these phones have in common? they all works on ATT USA 3G! HTC can take their junks and stick it u know where! haha
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The only reason to petition HTC is because their hardware is not junk. It's very high quality stuff. They just need to make a few important changes.
dont be a pushy! haha
be a man!
it' like eatting at resturant, you are not allow to eat until everyone is finished eatting! that is just a insult to USA users! i wouldnt be begging them to let you eat at the same time as every1 else. i go elsewhere! haha
Thanks for using the Roman 'U' / sarcasm
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yep, fully agree. I buy a new phone per year, due to heavy usage, they are generally ready for the scrap heap. I live in USA, but have operations in EU, and Japan / South Korea and I only want one phone and one number, and push around large amounts of data. I have to have 2100 mghz for voice and data in Japan and Korea, 850/1900 in USA and while in EU, need the 1800/900 and now 2100 for 3G access there. As I said, I only want one device and one number to keep updated and ready.
Big pain that HTC and Nokia have decided not to blend the 3G radios in the same way we have quad band GSM services. The extra frequencies on the radios are minor costs, which I would gladly pay.
ATT also keeps HTC from adding the 3.5 mm audio out jack, due to their exclusive deal with Apple on the Iphone, which is ridiculous. These cheap little dongles are a pain to use and keep up with, since I use my tilt 2 as an MP3 player while flying, I have to keep up with another piece. I strongly prefer one device to have to carry chargers for while traveling, so my phone is my MP3 player, email device, voice device, and mobile gps device. I want ONE DEVICE that works everywhere and not be dependant on AT&T to decide what and when I will get what.
HTC has to be tied to these carriers by some contract or agreement and is likely lacking marketing infastructure to take their phones to market globally and feel some ties to these major carriers. Otherwise it makes no sense to cripple these new devices as they are doing.
My 3 cents worth.
MWS
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Big pain that HTC and Nokia have decided not to blend the 3G radios in the same way we have quad band GSM services. The extra frequencies on the radios are minor costs, which I would gladly pay.
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sony ericsson, and acer have no problems including USA 3g and EU 2100umts on their phone! retarded htc just dont want to! it like watching the new movie New Moon, you not allow to watch it until 6 months later! do u still get excited about New Moon 6 months later while every1 else already watched it? and Samsung is starting to wake up too! their lastest phone Omina II got USA 3g and 2100umts! (900/1900/2100umts)
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sony ericsson, and acer have no problems including USA 3g and EU 2100umts on their phone! retarded htc just dont want to! it like watching the new movie New Moon, you not allow to watch it until 6 months later! do u still get excited about New Moon 6 months later while every1 else already watched it? and Samsung is starting to wake up too! their lastest phone Omina II got USA 3g and 2100umts! (900/1900/2100umts)
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i second that..asus p835 also have us3g band
HTC exists to sell phones and make money.
If they wanted to sell phones that aren't carrier locked, it would have to be at full retail price ($500-600) and as a result MUCH less people would buy it. Plus HTC would have to open their own stores and such, or sell it only online.
The other option is to sell it through a carrier, but when you do that you're at the carriers mercy. And american carriers are scumbags when it comes to that.
For example, when the rest of the world uses the higher frequency that allows more users on the same tower and better speeds. America is still stuck with using ancient towers on ****ty frequencies...because carriers like AT&T are too cheap to upgrade it.
At the end of the day what do you think matters more to HTC (as a business), you deciding not to buy another phone from them (which would cost them very little, if anything, as it would be the carrier that sustains the loss) or them losing a multi-million dollar contract.
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so is any other cell phones makers. sony, acer, asus, and now samsung (with their latest omini II got USA 3G and 2100umts. you bought ATT iphone, you also get 2100umts, i believe LG Expo with 1G cpu also has usa 3g and 2100umts!
but if you bought a HTC garbage phone, it either 900/2100 or USA 3G only, no 2100umts !
update: maybe "garbage" is not the correct word, it' OLD JUNKS! but the time it get to usa, phone is already 6months old! would you want to see New moon in 6 months while every1 is watching it now? would you rather eat after every1 is finished eatting? you just eatting the left-over!
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so is any other cell phones makers. sony, acer, asus, and now samsung (with their latest omini II got USA 3G and 2100umts. you bought ATT iphone, you also get 2100umts, i believe LG Expo with 1G cpu also has usa 3g and 2100umts!
but if you bought a HTC garbage phone, it either 900/2100 or USA 3G only, no 2100umts !
update: maybe "garbage" is not the correct word, it' OLD JUNKS! but the time it get to usa, phone is already 6months old! would you want to see New moon in 6 months while every1 is watching it now? would you rather eat after every1 is finished eatting? you just eatting the left-over!
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What don't you understand about it not having anything to do with HTC?
HTC signs contracts with t-mobile, AT&T, verizon, sprint etc, which allows them to rebrand the phone and sell it ON THEIR SCHEDULE with the features/radios THEY WANT. As almost everyone in America is locked onto 2 year contracts, most will be unwilling to buy to a new phone at full retail price until their contract is over. Hence carriers will wait to stock up on new phones till a time when the majority of their subscribers will be nearing their time to upgrade.
This CAN affect their other phones as well, just depends on whats written on those contracts.
AT&T doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to t-mobile. So they lock out the t-mobile 3G frequencies.
T-mobile doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to AT&T. So they lock out the AT&T frequencies.
Verizon/Sprint, don't want you buying a global phone and switching to T-mobile/AT&T, so they lock out both those bands.
If carriers aren't giving a certain phone the 2100 frequency, it's probably because they sell a similar more expensive phone that is "global ready" and want you to buy that instead if you travel. (Like for example, the ATT touch diamond doesn't have the 2100 band. The ATT Touch Pro 2 DOES)
Sony Ericcson, and Acer don't sell their phones in America through a carrier so naturally they don't have to lock out the radios and can do whatever the hell they want.
What is so hard to get about this?
Yes HTC can make a new contract, but I highly doubt carriers will sign it.
And btw I wouldn't want to see new moon, because it's gotta be the worst movie ever and nor am I a 13 year old girl with no common sense.
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AT&T doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to t-mobile. So they lock out the t-mobile 3G frequencies.
T-mobile doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to AT&T. So they lock out the AT&T frequencies.
Verizon/Sprint, don't want you buying a global phone and switching to T-mobile/AT&T, so they lock out both those bands.
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i dont want a ATT or Tmobile branded htc old junk! i'm talking about HTC unlocked phone that they purposely left out USA 3G on it!
I have around $150 bucks I am willing to throw at a new phone.
I would like it to be able to use wifi, have a decent camera, and a physical qwerty keyboard.
Now I was reading some older threads that talked about buying an unlocked smart phone and then throwing your AT&T SIM into it and you would be good to go.
Is this still an option? Do you guys have any recommendations?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide, it is greatly appreciated!
I had my eye on the HTC S521.
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I have around $150 bucks I am willing to throw at a new phone.
I would like it to be able to use wifi, have a decent camera, and a physical qwerty keyboard.
Now I was reading some older threads that talked about buying an unlocked smart phone and then throwing your AT&T SIM into it and you would be good to go.
Is this still an option? Do you guys have any recommendations?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide, it is greatly appreciated!
I had my eye on the HTC S521.
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Any phone without AT&T branding will do. The way it works is they have a database of IMEI numebers of all the phones they sell. If the phone is not branded by them, it's not in their database, and therefore they wouldn't know what phone you're using. Try it out; When you get your new phone, pop in the SIM and log into your online account. Normally, it will show what phone you're using but now it should show a question mark or generic phone.
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Any phone without AT&T branding will do. The way it works is they have a database of IMEI numebers of all the phones they sell. If the phone is not branded by them, it's not in their database, and therefore they wouldn't know what phone you're using. Try it out; When you get your new phone, pop in the SIM and log into your online account. Normally, it will show what phone you're using but now it should show a question mark or generic phone.
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Thanks a lot for explaining that! So any unlocked phone would work? I suppose I can't use a Sprint Branded Phone or something right? I guess my only other question left is do you have a recommendation for a solid phone for my price range? I don't need anything too fancy.
If you know of a website with reliable reviews of phones that would be appreciated as well.
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Thanks a lot for explaining that! So any unlocked phone would work? I suppose I can't use a Sprint Branded Phone or something right? I guess my only other question left is do you have a recommendation for a solid phone for my price range? I don't need anything too fancy.
If you know of a website with reliable reviews of phones that would be appreciated as well.
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The only Sprint phones that I know of that would work on AT&T (or T-Mobile) are the Blackberry Tour (but has no wifi), Blackberry Bold 9650 (the SIM slot comes unlocked by default), and the Touch Pro 2. The Blackberries would run on EDGE though, not 3G, but the Bold has wifi built in. [Sprint is CDMA, not GSM]
But that aside, do you care if it's a smartphone or not?
Usually CNET.com and Phonedog.com (Phonedog also has a YouTube channel) do good reviews.
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The only Sprint phones that I know of that would work on AT&T (or T-Mobile) are the Blackberry Tour (but has no wifi), Blackberry Bold 9650 (the SIM slot comes unlocked by default), and the Touch Pro 2. The Blackberries would run on EDGE though, not 3G, but the Bold has wifi built in. [Sprint is CDMA, not GSM]
But that aside, do you care if it's a smartphone or not?
Usually CNET.com and Phonedog.com (Phonedog also has a YouTube channel) do good reviews.
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Basically I want the best bang for my buck while avoiding a mandatory data usage fee. I'm at college most the time and they have public WiFi spots that I can use.
The Touch Pro 2 really interested me but it was a bit pricey, although the Sprint Version is much cheaper. But I thought Sprint is only CDMA so how would that work with AT&T?
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Basically I want the best bang for my buck while avoiding a mandatory data usage fee. I'm at college most the time and they have public WiFi spots that I can use.
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Hmm...What about something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocke..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1301901933&sr=1-1
$150 for an unlocked smartphone is rare but Nokia's usually fall within that price range and are really good. Just search "Nokia" on Amazon. Also, you can hit up Craigslist. I know that you can unlock Samsung Vibrants from T-Mobile because the code is actually store inside the phone. Most technologically-illiterate people sell them for cheap because they don't know what they're worth.
EDIT: Also, if you want a slight upgrade to that Nokia, check this out. It's a little over your price range but not by much: http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-QWERTY-Camera-Navigation/dp/B003X26SLC/ref=pd_cp_cps_1_img
Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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As a rule, I prefer GSMArena for reviews and picture galleries, and ignore most else. Their Touch Pro 2 review will tell you a lot.
As far as custom OS' go, you'll want to steer very clear of Nokia if that's your intention. Their devices are built for Symbian (N900 excepted) and that's about it. The Touch Pro 2 has numerous builds of Android available, and came stock with Windows Mobile (not the new one).
Make four more posts and have a scour through the Marketplace here also, you'll find a good deal or two.
Good Luck!
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Ok so I am using this site as a reference "gsmarena.com" and they give the HTC Touch Pro2 a 8.4 Average while the the Nokia E5 only gets a 7.5, is there something I'm missing? Because the Nokia phone seems to have much better specs.
Also what about installing a custom/modded OS on these. Would I have an easier time with the Nokia or Touch Pro? (I like the bigger keyboard of the Touch Pro2)
I'm also considering trying to snag a HTC HD2 off of Ebay for around 150 bucks if I can.
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If you can get an HD2 off eBay, get it. It can run Android, Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.x, Ubuntu, Maemo, and a lot more. It's also equivalent, spec-wise to an Evo. Get it over the Touch Pro 2!.
Product F(RED) said:
If you can get an HD2 off eBay, get it. It can run Android, Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.x, Ubuntu, Maemo, and a lot more. It's also equivalent, spec-wise to an Evo. Get it over the Touch Pro 2!.
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Thanks for your help, I think the HTC HD2 at 150 is a pipe dream, but I'll keep looking haha.
juzz86 said:
As a rule, I prefer GSMArena for reviews and picture galleries, and ignore most else. Their Touch Pro 2 review will tell you a lot.
As far as custom OS' go, you'll want to steer very clear of Nokia if that's your intention. Their devices are built for Symbian (N900 excepted) and that's about it. The Touch Pro 2 has numerous builds of Android available, and came stock with Windows Mobile (not the new one).
Make four more posts and have a scour through the Marketplace here also, you'll find a good deal or two.
Good Luck!
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I'm guessing the Marketplace is hidden to me until I make 8 posts then?
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I'm guessing the Marketplace is hidden to me until I make 8 posts then?
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Not sure but you can definitely snag an HD2 off of eBay or Craigslist for cheap. People don't know what these things are worth.
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Not sure but you can definitely snag an HD2 off of eBay or Craigslist for cheap. People don't know what these things are worth.
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Ya they seem to be worth upwards of $400 bucks and I'm pretty sure I can get one for under $250, just not sure I want to spend that much...
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Ya they seem to be worth upwards of $400 bucks and I'm pretty sure I can get one for under $250, just not sure I want to spend that much...
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http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-T-Mobil...Cell_Phones&hash=item1e62a66712#ht_500wt_1156
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http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-T-Mobil...Cell_Phones&hash=item1e62a66712#ht_500wt_1156
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Thanks man, I'll be watching this and see how it develops tonight.
Blah that HD2 went for over 200 when you count shipping. I know that is still probably a good deal but more than I want to spend.
I'm also thinking of just getting the Tilt 2 now and going with the $15 data plan so I can take advantage of the 3G.
I just dumped ATT a couple of months ago and moved us over to Verizon with Droid X phones. Prior when I was on I was given 7 ATT BB 8300 phones by a friend when their company upgraded. for about a year all was fine. We were not using data on them so the small data plan from our old phones was fine. then about 6 months back every month I would get a txt from ATT saying that they had changed my data plan to an appropriate one for the phones. That was $25 a phone per month. Every month i would call and complain and they would tell me that they were removing it. then a few days later they would add it back again.
So be careful because ATT will add data plans on You.
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I just dumped ATT a couple of months ago and moved us over to Verizon with Droid X phones. Prior when I was on I was given 7 ATT BB 8300 phones by a friend when their company upgraded. for about a year all was fine. We were not using data on them so the small data plan from our old phones was fine. then about 6 months back every month I would get a txt from ATT saying that they had changed my data plan to an appropriate one for the phones. That was $25 a phone per month. Every month i would call and complain and they would tell me that they were removing it. then a few days later they would add it back again.
So be careful because ATT will add data plans on You.
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Only if you use AT&T branded phones. If you don't, they won't know what phone you're using because it's not in their database.
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Only if you use AT&T branded phones. If you don't, they won't know what phone you're using because it's not in their database.
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I'm having a hard time finding a decently priced phone that isn't AT&T but that will still work on AT&T's 3G. From my understanding neither the HD2 nor the Touch Pro 2 will do this.
Which is what has swayed me to just forking over the 15 a month and getting the Tilt 2 (Which if I'm not mistaken is the AT&T version of the Touch Pro 2)
I've already checked AT&T's site and this phone only requires 15 a month for a data plan.
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I'm having a hard time finding a decently priced phone that isn't AT&T but that will still work on AT&T's 3G. From my understanding neither the HD2 nor the Touch Pro 2 will do this.
Which is what has swayed me to just forking over the 15 a month and getting the Tilt 2 (Which if I'm not mistaken is the AT&T version of the Touch Pro 2)
I've already checked AT&T's site and this phone only requires 15 a month for a data plan.
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Yeah, I googled it and that's what AT&T decided to call it; The Tilt 2.
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
****ting said:
I'm wondering if anyone has used the non-tmobile version of sensation with t-mobile's T-zone / Web2go data plan. So here's the 2 questions:
1. Does the Asia/Europe version support AWS/1700MHZ 3G?
2. Does T-mobile block the Asia/Europe version's IMEI for T-zone / Web2go?
Much appreciated for your help!
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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1. All versions of the Sensation so far support the tmobile's AWS 3G band. Also, for those that don't know: AWS = 1700/2100. They put AWS because it's shorter than writing/explaining what it really is.
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
Good question. Does the International version of the Sensational work on Tzones or Web2Go?
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Thank you, does anyone know if the other version works with T-zone?
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The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
OccasionalDroid said:
The dude already gave you that answer,
All three Sensation models currently in the market support the tmobile usa bands..
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That wasn't the question though, was it?
He wants to know if T-Mobile US will allow an Asia/Europe Sensation to work with grandfathered T-Zones or web2go data plans. It has nothing to do with the bands. It has to do with T-Mobile's locking down of certain smartphones so that they can't use T-Zones or web2go regardless if they have AWS or not.
Since the phone's not out yet in the U.S., the majority of posters here are from the EU. They have no idea what T-Zones are. For my international friends, it's a legacy dumb-phone plan that allows you to use 3/4G data on an unlimited basis for half the price of the smartphone data plan. He's asking about the European IMEI because if T-Mobile U.S. has it in their database than T-Zones will be blocked.
OP, I'd ask again when more people in the U.S. actually have the phone.
P.S. - Since all the phones have AWS, I'd imagine that HTC provided T-Mobile U.S. with the full range of IEMIs. Just guessing but it makes sense.
Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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Now does the international Sensation get slower speeds than the Sensation 4G? Or is it going to be the same?
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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Thank you all for your answers, but this is my first thread in XDA. Since this phone is made in China, I can import one from China for less than $600. Would be interesting to see if T-mobile blocks all the IMEIs. I got my dad a Huawei U8150, which is the same as the T-mobile Comet, but T-mobile has no idea what that phone is. So it works fine on the web2go plan. I almost pull the trigger to have my friend in China ship me a sensation, but I'll wait for a couple more weeks.
Because I can get the EU version easier than the US version and wanted to be sure before I placed an order.... that and I was a little drunk
Now last question s about the rom, will the EU be able to have the US rom flashed to it
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should be the same. they're the same phone. only difference I've seen from pictures so far is the US version has 1 extra contact for the back antenna
also 2 things: why did you post this question in 4 different threads? & why do you care about the EU version if you're in the US. I'm pretty sure importing a EU version over to this side of the pond would be way more expensive than buying the US version outright.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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according to a seller on ebay, the EU version he's selling will work with the t-zone or web2go plan. But not sure if he's correct.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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Yeah, I wouldn't rely on that seller's opinion. It's just guess unless he's actually tried it (for a week at least). I doubt that he has.
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right, I guess we need a brave tester to let us all know.
I just got the HTC Incredible S, which does work on T-Zones/Web2go.
However, if someone does get Euro HTC Sensation, let us know if it works.
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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That's awesome! please let us know, i'm sure lots of people are eager to find out as well.
zahashingo123 said:
i think it should work as long as its not bought from tmobile or does not have the tmobile logo on the front top right of the glass
im pretty experienced with web2go and phones
android phones from tmobile all don't work with tones or web2go
as long as its not from tmobile it will work on the phone
and 3g will for if it has AWS bands
except nexus S because samsung gave all the IDs to tmobile. even the ones that tmobile doesnt sell
i ordered a htc sensation and will get it in about 36 hours
ill let you guys know how it works out
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
Not many ratings for Hi-Mobile.net. I honestly wouldn't trust them.
Integrontech.com- has reviews and seller feedback. $599.99- free shipping.
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Where did you order it from? Let us know if it is the unbranded version or the Vodafone version. Hi-mobile.net has the lowest price I've seen but I don't know if they are legitimate or not.
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I bought mine from Negri Electronics because i was watching reviews and this one review from like pocketnow or some pretty good review website said they got it from there and it was the cheapest i could find. it was $625 free shipping. but im from hawaii so i had to pay for the 2day air shipping for $30
Hope so...
Why not? SeaRay was already leaked so it should at least get a press release.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197224
wont be in US so really doesnt matter to me. Sad faise
I just want to hear about a CDMA device that will work on Sprint. But I have a feeling that's not going to happen anytime soon.
tiny17 said:
I just want to hear about a CDMA device that will work on Sprint. But I have a feeling that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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I'm on Verizon, we'll be the last to hear of CDMA based devices...
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I'm on Verizon, we'll be the last to hear of CDMA based devices...
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I seriously hate this. I have sprint and I am fed up with Android. And there is one wp7 available for sprint. Everyone says Mango, but where is the damn fruit already?
I don't want a small screen with a keyboard. If sprint doesn't get a better phone before/slightly after Christmas, I'm probably going to pick up the GSII.
The GSM carriers are loaded with various WP7 phones. Where is the love with CDMA?
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I seriously hate this. I have sprint and I am fed up with Android. And there is one wp7 available for sprint. Everyone says Mango, but where is the damn fruit already?
I don't want a small screen with a keyboard. If sprint doesn't get a better phone before/slightly after Christmas, I'm probably going to pick up the GSII.
The GSM carriers are loaded with various WP7 phones. Where is the love with CDMA?
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Trust me, I feel your pain, there is only one device with Verizon...and I waited for ever for the base WP7 device.
The problem is that GSM covers about 85-90% of the world, not just the US.
When a company makes a phone for the global market, it will make the GSM models first because that is where the money is. After the profits start slowing down from the GSM models, then will go towards a CDMA market because there will be more profits to make.
Unless your carrier (Sprint in your case or Verizon in my case) wants a big OEM (HTC, Nokia, etc) to create them a custom phone for their network (and WP7 is not big enough for Sprint or vzw yet), you have to wait till the offer models and that does not show up for a year later.
Look at all the old flip phones, Moto for example, the razor, GSM had it over a year before CDMA carriers did, same deal.
So, if you want new phones on their release, you need to be with a GSM carrier or just wait, like most CDMA users have to....
I'm dreaming of a LTE (Verizon 4G) based WP7 device with a 4" SuperLCD/Super AMOLED display, a QWERTY keyboard, front camera with a good 10-12mp rear camera, dual core CPU and better GPU (for newer games), very slim design and a 2-3 day(real world) battery without making the phone huge. Who ever makes it, I'll buy it...
but, I guess one could dream......
That's y I left Sprint because of the lack of cdma love. Never will make that mistake again. T mobile service sucks in my area wish I had my DVP on Sprint Sero. But I hope Nokia shows us something today.
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Hope so...
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What else would they show, they've made it clear that it's WP7 or burst, they better have one.
When are they debuting it. I've been looking on pocketnow and haven't seen anything
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That's y I left Sprint because of the lack of cdma love.
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Yeah, wish I could leave Sprint, but $40 a month for unlimited data, text, mobile to mobile, nights and weekends, free roaming, 500 anytime. . . well you get the idea. As much as it pains me to not have as many hardware options, I don't feel as much pain when it comes to bill time.
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Trust me, I feel your pain, there is only one device with Verizon...and I waited for ever for the base WP7 device.
The problem is that GSM covers about 85-90% of the world, not just the US.
When a company makes a phone for the global market, it will make the GSM models first because that is where the money is. After the profits start slowing down from the GSM models, then will go towards a CDMA market because there will be more profits to make.
Unless your carrier (Sprint in your case or Verizon in my case) wants a big OEM (HTC, Nokia, etc) to create them a custom phone for their network (and WP7 is not big enough for Sprint or vzw yet), you have to wait till the offer models and that does not show up for a year later.
Look at all the old flip phones, Moto for example, the razor, GSM had it over a year before CDMA carriers did, same deal.
So, if you want new phones on their release, you need to be with a GSM carrier or just wait, like most CDMA users have to....
I'm dreaming of a LTE (Verizon 4G) based WP7 device with a 4" SuperLCD/Super AMOLED display, a QWERTY keyboard, front camera with a good 10-12mp rear camera, dual core CPU and better GPU (for newer games), very slim design and a 2-3 day(real world) battery without making the phone huge. Who ever makes it, I'll buy it...
but, I guess one could dream......
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I know this sucks lol. Do you think they will go towards CDMA this quarter or no? The phones are in high demand from what I've seen. People are just waiting.
I don't know, I might just go out and buy the arrive. Its just like the android shift, but with a tilting display and running WP7. I don't mind the 3.5" display, but coming from an EVO screen size, do you think that is too small or no?
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I know this sucks lol. Do you think they will go towards CDMA this quarter or no? The phones are in high demand from what I've seen. People are just waiting. ?
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No, unless Verizon/Sprint request(aka: Pay big $$$) for a custom phone, no, they wont rush out a model (Note: Carrier or MS, MS could request that CDMA phones are released on the same time).
Think about it, Sprint and Verizon are US companies only and on a global scale, CDMA accounts for around 10% but, I believe it's less. So Verizon and Sprint both combined would be about 4-6% of the worlds sold phones, if that. Even if everyone in Verizon and Sprint was requesting phones, would you as a company put all your effort to companies that account for less than 10% of your market ? I don't think so...
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I don't know, I might just go out and buy the arrive. Its just like the android shift, but with a tilting display and running WP7. I don't mind the 3.5" display, but coming from an EVO screen size, do you think that is too small or no?
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The 4.3" display ? Yea, it is a quite smaller and it might be too small for some people but, in the 3.5-3.8" is a good size for a phone that fits in your pocket.
Want my advice ? If you want WP7, pick up an Arrive off contract. You should be able to get one for under $300 (seen some used go on ebay for under $200 but, for the most part under $300, Just make sure you get one with a clean ESN). So if some new awsome model comes out for Sprint, you don't use up your 2 year contract and still can get a new phone.
That's what I did with my Trophy, still have a $100 credit towards a new phone and I'll hold it till there is a phone that I really want.
My Trophy is a nice phone and it will hold me out till then.....
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Yeah, wish I could leave Sprint, but $40 a month for unlimited data, text, mobile to mobile, nights and weekends, free roaming, 500 anytime. . . well you get the idea. As much as it pains me to not have as many hardware options, I don't feel as much pain when it comes to bill time.
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Same sero plan I was on. Didn't help that my tp2 was almost non functional either. But I sure do miss my sero plan. Sprint service is better in my area than Tmobile. And I sure wasn't going to wait for that Tp3. I was not at all impressed with It so i just went and got the dvp with no contract.
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No, unless Verizon/Sprint request(aka: Pay big $$$) for a custom phone, no, they wont rush out a model (Note: Carrier or MS, MS could request that CDMA phones are released on the same time).
Think about it, Sprint and Verizon are US companies only and on a global scale, CDMA accounts for around 10% but, I believe it's less. So Verizon and Sprint both combined would be about 4-6% of the worlds sold phones, if that. Even if everyone in Verizon and Sprint was requesting phones, would you as a company put all your effort to companies that account for less than 10% of your market ? I don't think so...
The 4.3" display ? Yea, it is a quite smaller and it might be too small for some people but, in the 3.5-3.8" is a good size for a phone that fits in your pocket.
Want my advice ? If you want WP7, pick up an Arrive off contract. You should be able to get one for under $300 (seen some used go on ebay for under $200 but, for the most part under $300, Just make sure you get one with a clean ESN). So if some new awsome model comes out for Sprint, you don't use up your 2 year contract and still can get a new phone.
That's what I did with my Trophy, still have a $100 credit towards a new phone and I'll hold it till there is a phone that I really want.
My Trophy is a nice phone and it will hold me out till then.....
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Yeah that is a really good idea... CDMA phones are always last for everything. If I can pick one up for 200 or less, I'll just do that then. But hopefully one comes out by then.
If not, I guess I'll buy the GSII. Unless I can buy an unlocked trophy and use it on sprint? Is that possible? I don't really like physical keyboards.
The Arrive is a great phone - you will be happy with it, and the screen is big enough, especially since you have a nice keyboard.
But I imagine you are like me, and want a nice candybar form-factor, like the GSII. Hopefully Sprint will get one this holiday season, but until then, the Arrive is a very nice phone.
tiny17 said:
The Arrive is a great phone - you will be happy with it, and the screen is big enough, especially since you have a nice keyboard.
But I imagine you are like me, and want a nice candybar form-factor, like the GSII. Hopefully Sprint will get one this holiday season, but until then, the Arrive is a very nice phone.
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Yeah I am going to wait. I for sure do not want any other Android other than the GSII. I personally wish the hardware was up to date with WP7, but what can you do. At least it has a nice HD display.
Probably will check it out again tomorrow. I'm ready for a phone to actually "work" without a hassel of "oh **** I forgot the flash that fix", or "my battery is draining, I need to kill more apps, change kernels, switch CPU settings, blah blah blah blah blah."
Why are Androids even called "smartphones"? They have more problems than a farmer trying to grow crops in the winter. Its just pointless lol. I never play games, I go on facebook, (can't even sync anything = battery dead), check emails, and Reddit time to time.
WP7 would be perfect for me lol.
So, what happened to the Aug. 17th announcement?
tiny17 said:
So, what happened to the Aug. 17th announcement?
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nothing at all ...