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I am a little confused. I have been trying to get WM6 on my T-mobile Wizard and actually got TNT 1.1 loaded and was working fine. I found that I could no longer view my contacts. The page would appear and then as quickly as it appeared it disappeared.
So I figured, I at least got it this far. I will just reload this rom and see if perhaps something did load right. Well after the reload. The phone boots up to the splash screen with IPL\SPL numbers and just sits. NOTHING.
I left it there for like 2 hours and still nothing. But I can still get into the BootLoader.
My questions to you gurus is:
Is the phone fubared?
Can I do some kind of master reset?
Why would it tell me "Invalid Vendor ID" when trying to flash the orginal T-mobile rom?
Are there any tools that can help me out? Paid\free?
Please help!!! Seriously! Please HELP!!!
Very much appreciated.
Thanks

Drunknasty said:
I am a little confused. I have been trying to get WM6 on my T-mobile Wizard and actually got TNT 1.1 loaded and was working fine. I found that I could no longer view my contacts. The page would appear and then as quickly as it appeared it disappeared.
So I figured, I at least got it this far. I will just reload this rom and see if perhaps something did load right. Well after the reload. The phone boots up to the splash screen with IPL\SPL numbers and just sits. NOTHING.
I left it there for like 2 hours and still nothing. But I can still get into the BootLoader.
My questions to you gurus is:
Is the phone fubared?
Can I do some kind of master reset?
Why would it tell me "Invalid Vendor ID" when trying to flash the orginal T-mobile rom?
Are there any tools that can help me out? Paid\free?
Please help!!! Seriously! Please HELP!!!
Very much appreciated.
Thanks
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if your device is G3, unlocking is required to flash any rom, before upgrade your device, it is recommended to flash an official WM5.0 rom (in your case T-Mobile rom) with IPL and SPL 2.xx then flash again.
in general there are many probabilities for your issue.
((Where is TNT1.1?? did you mean 1.0?? ))

My Bad meant 1.0
So to get it straight.... I will need to unlock my phone each time?
Oh and to correct myself again, when flashing with the T-mobile ROM it says UPGRADE ONLY. And the read me file says its the wrong RUU. But it is the same file from Tmobile I used when I first got the phone. But I will try again.
Are there any other suggestions?

You need to read the "how to flash" sticky.

I did. I am not any expert or anything but I believe the phone is unlocked already since I once had WM6 on my phone. The real issue I am having is that it wont boot past the splash screen after flashing.
And that is true when re following the steps in guide. After flashing to the button rom it will not boot past the splash screen.

Try another ROM.

Sounds like you need the "Wizard Love" rom. I dont have the link handy but I am sure someone else does.
Drunknasty said:
I did. I am not any expert or anything but I believe the phone is unlocked already since I once had WM6 on my phone. The real issue I am having is that it wont boot past the splash screen after flashing.
And that is true when re following the steps in guide. After flashing to the button rom it will not boot past the splash screen.
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Already got it. Thanks I am trying to load it now. But the only thing is that the last time it failed and I can understand what the error says. I know the number is 300 but can read the language.
But I will let you guys know when this load completes.
Thanks again for all the assistance.

No worky worky. The load completed and then boots the splash screen shows and then stays there.
Any ideas?

Try to remove the battery and let it out for at least half an hour. Then put it back in and see what it does then.

I thought the same thing too. So when it got done last night, out of frustration, I removed the battery and left it there to wait on when I get off work today. I will report back on what happens.
Again I would like to thank you guys for helping me. I really do appreciate it!

STEP 1 install the original manufacturer ROM
T-mobile UK
http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
T-mobile US
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Search for the original rom for any other
instructions on how to use the original rom can be found here
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm23294.htm?&A2L.SERVICE=AboutUpgrading
Put it in the bootloader mode.. ( three color screens )
hope this helps..
cheers
Praneet

Ok I did that and it gave me ERROR 296: UPGRADE ONLY
Then it tells me that the NBF file cannot be used for my PDA Phone. Please get newer NBF file.
Is there any way I can get the Tmobile splash and IPL\SPL number back to original, it doesnt need to boot all the way into WCE but atleast show the same numbers and splash during boot up?
Or any other way to get this thing to work?
Thanks guys
BTW it is a HTC Wizard from T-mobile.

If you are getting an error 300 you need a newer rom update utility, and regardless if your phone is a G3 or G4 it needs to be unlocked before you flash any rom.. LOAD a OFFICIAL cingular ROM onto your device before going any further, then unlock your phone either via www.imei-check.com or through some of the tools offered here...

Which one should I down load from Cingular? Even though I have a Tmobile phone?

what ipl and spl are you using and what radio are you using. Just post all the numbers from the bootloader

As soon as I get home, I will post them.
Thanks

Ipl 1.01
Spl 3.08
Thanks

Drunknasty said:
Ipl 1.01
Spl 3.08
Thanks
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uh oh. someone tell me if I'm wrong, but I think this is bad. it's the result of flashing a g4 with g3 or the other way around... keep searching, and good luck.

flash the original t-mobile rom. your phone doesn't appear to be unlocked. good luck

Help me please!!!

Tell me what Im doing wrong. I did the hard spl first and then I downloaded the rom I wanted to use. I extracted the rom and started it up and followed all the steps on the screen. It said that it successfully installed the rom and restarted my phone. Then it takes me to the screen where i have to align my screen so I did that and set up the device. then the home screen loads up and then its starts the customization process. When thats finish it restarts the phone again and then after the second splash screen it freezes and eventually my screen looks like the static on a television. Ive tried to go into bootlegger mode and reflash it and it does the same thing. Ive also tried to hard reset it when I get to the screen alignment screen because I read that in wiki and it still does the same thing. Im so lost what should I do. Thanks for your time and help.

If you CID unlocked it properly then reflash to the OEM rom and then try to reflash the ROM you want. Anybody disagree?
-McMex

It can also be aRADIO prblem that doesn't match with the ROM,
check this and try to replace the RADIO.
Ciao.

mcmexican said:
If you CID unlocked it properly then reflash to the OEM rom and then try to reflash the ROM you want. Anybody disagree?
-McMex
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Agree. If the OEM Rom doesn't work either, i'm betting on the CID Unlock having failed.
And... you do have a Kaiser, don't you?
One more note: next time you open a thread, try to at least come up with a decent topic title..

Confirmed... It is a radio conflict, I had the same problem after flashing a wrong radio by mistake..

change radio. click my link below and go to the radios folder and pick one. the new ones only work w/ 6.1 roms though.

Serious Help Needed Flashing Custom ROMS, Please Help!!

I am in dire need of some help when it comes to flashing custom ROMs. It appears that I can no longer flash custom ROMs. I can successfully flash the official 1.62 ROM from HTC website, the dumped TILT ROM, the Kaiser dumped ROM, and the WM6.1 WWE 3.03.405.0_radio_sign_25.70.40.02_1.64.06.04, but any other ROM I can’t. Let me explain my meaning of not being able to flash a ROM. Once it flashes 100% and reboots, when the “Tap the screen to begin to set up your windows-mobile device” is supposed to be displayed, all I get is a blank white screen. If I touch my stylus to the screen the text shows up, but none of the colored pictures that suppose to be in the back ground. Every section of the setup just displays the text no background images. Even my today screen won’t display any background images.
Does anyone have any information on this? I’ve abused this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615 like a cheap dirty whore trying to find a solution, but no avail. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

kjones2k1 said:
I am in dire need of some help when it comes to flashing custom ROMs. It appears that I can no longer flash custom ROMs. I can successfully flash the official 1.62 ROM from HTC website, the dumped TILT ROM, the Kaiser dumped ROM, and the WM6.1 WWE 3.03.405.0_radio_sign_25.70.40.02_1.64.06.04, but any other ROM I can’t. Let me explain my meaning of not being able to flash a ROM. Once it flashes 100% and reboots, when the “Tap the screen to begin to set up your windows-mobile device” is supposed to be displayed, all I get is a blank white screen. If I touch my stylus to the screen the text shows up, but none of the colored pictures that suppose to be in the back ground. Every section of the setup just displays the text no background images. Even my today screen won’t display any background images.
Does anyone have any information on this? I’ve abused this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615 like a cheap dirty whore trying to find a solution, but no avail. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.
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are you using 6.1 radios or the 6.0 radios?

P1Tater said:
are you using 6.1 radios or the 6.0 radios?
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For each ROM, when ever I flashed, it changed my radio. For instance Alex's 1.62 rom, when I flashed his ROM, it already to changed my radio to the need radio to 1.27.14.09

kjones2k1 said:
For each ROM, when ever I flashed, it changed my radio. For instance Alex's 1.62 rom, when I flashed his ROM, it already to changed my radio to the need radio to 1.27.14.09
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some come with radios, but most dont. You have to be sure if you need an AT$T specific radio or not.

P1Tater said:
some come with radios, but most dont. You have to be sure if you need an AT$T specific radio or not.
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When I was running the WM6.1 3.03 ROM with radio 1.64.X.X, I flashed to Alex 1.62 ROM and my radio changed to 1.27.X.X. Didn't this flash change my radio?

kjones2k1 said:
When I was running the WM6.1 3.03 ROM with radio 1.64.X.X, I flashed to Alex 1.62 ROM and my radio changed to 1.27.X.X. Didn't this flash change my radio?
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yes, if those are the only two flashes you have done, then it sounds like you might have had the unfortunate luck of having a bad flash. Reflash again and see what happens.
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Did you also do a hard reset at the "tap here to begin screen alingment" screen? If not, always do so.

P1Tater said:
yes, if those are the only two flashes you have done, then it sounds like you might have had the unfortunate luck of having a bad flash. Reflash again and see what happens.
Edit:
Did you also do a hard reset at the "tap here to begin screen alingment" screen? If not, always do so.
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I always hard reset when flashing new roms (learned alot in the kasier wiki). This is what I'm trying. Flashing to ATT 1.62 (Offical from HTC website) > manually flashing to 1.27.04.09 radio > Flashing to Alex's 1.62 ROM

Anyone else have any suggestions?

I have a few ideas that I think may help. PM me when you get a moment. It may Late saturday or sunday till I can get back to you, but I need to know a coupl of things. So, if you're still stuck, let me know.

GSLEON3 said:
I have a few ideas that I think may help. PM me when you get a moment. It may Late saturday or sunday till I can get back to you, but I need to know a coupl of things. So, if you're still stuck, let me know.
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PM sent

Check out the ROM Upgrading section of the Kaiser wiki under 'Troubleshooting' to learn how to enter bootloader mode.
Assuming that you installed HardSPL the first time you flashed, once you've booted into this mode, reconnect your device to your USB cable and flash another ROM.
For those who haven't looked at the Kaiser wiki in a while, I've completely revamped it w/TOC pages to make it alot easier to use (shameless plug)

_Alex_ said:
Check out the ROM Upgrading section of the Kaiser wiki under 'Troubleshooting' to learn how to enter bootloader mode.
Assuming that you installed HardSPL the first time you flashed, once you've booted into this mode, reconnect your device to your USB cable and flash another ROM.
For those who haven't looked at the Kaiser wiki in a while, I've completely revamped it w/TOC pages to make it alot easier to use (shameless plug)
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?? This is not my issue. I'm not a complete beginner when it comes to flashing. Ever since I flashed the WM6.1 3.03 ROM I haven't been able to flash a custom ROM without having an image problem. I can still flash OEM type ROMS without the image issue, but not custom ROMS. I have the problem with images once a custom ROM has been flashed. If more clarification of problem is needed, I am will to give it.

This may be extreme and largely untested, but have you tried 'clear storage' on the WM6.1 ROMs and chosen 'delete NAND' (or something to that effect)?
That should wipe your ROM memory clean, although I'm not sure if that would help or hinder your cause, as I haven't heard anyone try it yet...
Hope this helps!

_Alex_ said:
This may be extreme and largely untested, but have you tried 'clear storage' on the WM6.1 ROMs and chosen 'delete NAND' (or something to that effect)?
That should wipe your ROM memory clean, although I'm not sure if that would help or hinder your cause, as I haven't heard anyone try it yet...
Hope this helps!
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No, I haven't tried, but I guess I'll give it try when I get back in town on thursday.

Sorry I had to bug out....
Alex, his problem is a little different than a RUUBNH error that's commonly seen. I tried walking him through a CE reset using MTTY & he can't even communicate with his bootloader. MTTY wouldn't establish a USB connection. I agree that formating the Nand may help, but I think you really should also try & reflash hardspl as well. I suggest the new version with AT command support. I have seen a few funky hardspl flashes that inhibit communication, although rare.
I didn't forget you though Kjones, & I'm trying to duplicate your problem & find an answer.

ROM downgrade doesn't change the splash/first boot screen

does anyone know if this is normal after I flashed my tilt with AT&T Test ROM, the first boot screen changed to "For Test Only, Not For Sale...." but when I flashed the device back to an earlier HTC ROM, the Test Only screen is still there.

digitalextremes said:
does anyone know if this is normal after I flashed my tilt with AT&T Test ROM, the first boot screen changed to "For Test Only, Not For Sale...." but when I flashed the device back to an earlier HTC ROM, the Test Only screen is still there.
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Read the wiki on "Flashing a splash screen..."

Problems
I noticed that you started two threads for issues that are clearly covered in the Sticky with GWENI.
Both problems can be resolved fairly quickly with a trip down to the ONLY STICKY in this subforum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Both the downgrade issue and the keyboard issues have been discussed many times.

mzahiri said:
I noticed that you started two threads for issues that are clearly covered in the Sticky with GWENI.
Both problems can be resolved fairly quickly with a trip down to the ONLY STICKY in this subforum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Both the downgrade issue and the keyboard issues have been discussed many times.
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I guess I was more looking to find the root cause...which I think I found....it's ROM specific, then I flashed the tilt to the Test rom, the splash screen came up, when I flashed it back to original ROM, it didn't go away but when I flashed it with TNT rom, it changed to the TNT splash screen.
like I said in my earlier post about the other issuewith the keyboard, I tried the fix but it didn't work and I couldn't find the answer (didn't know that it could be ROM specific that the keyboard fix works with some roms it doesn't with others)...not sure why you are you yelling by using caps, i would recommend not replying at all instead of being angry.

The root cause is, not all ROMs contain splash screens. Therefore, the last splash screen you flashed is left on your device.
If you have additional questions, please post them in the ROM splash screen flashing thread. This thread is redundant and is now closed.

Jocky HardSPL etc

OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks

pachjo said:
OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks
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Read the SQL Questions thread in the Wiki. It will explain a lot of this to you.
In short, any HardSPL will allow you to flash, it's just the 3.* ones are more compatable with the latest WM6.1 builds.
EDIT:
Normally I'd flame you for this, but Im already flaming another noob atm That doesn't mean someone else wont flame you later.
Ta
Dave

pachjo said:
OK please don't flame me as I am going round and round in circles jumping from one thread link to another trying to get to grips with this stuff!
OK...
The other day I tried to install the hardspl and got the white screen problem.
I followed the thread to sort that out and all appeard ok and the phone continued to work OK under HTC stock 6.1
Yesterday I flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release and have been playing around with it trying to sort stuff out.
I then started reading the thread about ultimate radios and trying to work out what other radios work with this ROM and how I go about installing them and read I need to confirm the spl I am on and so did the hold camera button and reset to see the spl version.
It says the following:
KAIS130 MFG
SPL-1.0.0liPof
CPLD-8
Now from what I understand it should say SPL-3.2X or similar?
But it does not?
I thought that I needed the SPL-3.2X etc in order to flash cooked ROMS but it looks like I dont have that......so how was I able to flask L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release ?
Thanks
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If you are able to flash a ROM onto your device, then you must have an UNLOCKED phone. For simple instructions on upgrading to the new SPL I suggest you visit the following :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398565&highlight=step
Good luck.

Well I am sure I am gonna get flamed for this post, but here goes....
BTW "I AM NOT MOANING OR PICKING FOR AN ARGUMENT" I know this info here is given as is and appreciate the time people spend putting it all together
For the noob there is a trillion things to read here all of which lead to another trillion things which lead to ......
This phone flashing is all new to me and as I paid £434 for it I dont want to brick it, a term along with many I have never heard of before coming here.
I digress...
Anyway after reading and trying to understand it all I have flashed my phone and it works a treat and I am happy, just still in the dark about many things.
The thing is as a noob it is extremely daunting to start to read a thread, wiki etc to try to understand about a topic which diverts you to threads which divert, divert, divert so that after 3-4 diversions you foget what it was you were readiing about to start with!
And then you get to the point....I dont understand this...should I post lest I get flamed.......
So basically from a noobs point of view....everyone was a noob at some point, be gentle with us!
OK.....let the pachjo bash commence...........

Not a flame, just my way of working...
You raise some good points about the amount of info here. But like most here I managed to flash my device without posting a single new thread. If I had a problem with a step I posted there.
_Alex_ has consolodated most info into the single sticky. And there are step by step guides and FAQs on the Wiki.
I just took it one topic at a time:
*Found a ROM, said I needed HardSPL.
*Found HardSPL, installed it.
*Flashed ROM.
*No sound, found thread explaining about Radios. Flashed Radio.
*and so on.
I was (and still do) always reading thread that I found related to me learning as I go and helping where I can. I too like you knew nothing when I first joined and no one minds "noobs" asking questions in the relevant threads when they get stuck, but this is ROM development forum. All new threads should pertain to ROM "development".
Ta
Dave

you must use (aka JumpSPL )file before changing the SPL
this jumber must be in your device before flashing the new hard SPL
see hare and read carefuly :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
got it from here also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
cheers

Thanks guys.....am reading away and will take onboard your comments

first off, you can flash any rom with the olipof hardspl 1.0. the problem is, you will get screen freezes every once in a while. Using jumpspl, you can go to another hardspl. Usually jumpspl is included in all the new hardspls, but maybe not. Get familiar with what jumpspl is and then switch to hardspl.

thomassster said:
first off, you can flash any rom with the olipof hardspl 1.0. the problem is, you will get screen freezes every once in a while. Using jumpspl, you can go to another hardspl. Usually jumpspl is included in all the new hardspls, but maybe not. Get familiar with what jumpspl is and then switch to hardspl.
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Yep... I shall do that!
I have gone flash crazy as I am now gonna whack on L26_KaiserDiamond_V9
I am amazed at how fast my apps are loading now I am no longer on the stock ROM!
The phone reception is better, the SRS WOW is fandabbydosey its all good for me, and I have fixed (well found the solution to at least one of my gliches also)