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I've very new to all this, having used a non-PDA/smartphone (SE637) for many years before purchasing a Tilt. While quite PC-literate, I find myself very intimidated with all this. I read as much as my mind allows before requiring large quantities of diet-coke -- then I need a nap to calm myself down from the soda before reading any more, or my head explodes.
I think that I need a new ROM, but I'm not sure why! Everywhere I read, that's what I'm told.
This community is very knowledgable and seems very helpful. As this appears to be more for developers than users like me, I'm hesitant to ask my question for fear of offending a developer, which isn't my intent. I'm looking for information that might assist me in choosing which ROM to use.
I suppose that I want the phone to run faster, be easier to use/see (I don't see as well as I did 50 years ago... ), and have the latest of whatever is the best at the moment, spending as little as possible in the process. A truly never-ending story...
Before you start flashing decide what's important to you. Are you looking for a certian look & feel? Is fuctionality more important or do you want spped/stability?
Then research the different Roms, most include feature lists & screen shots in the first few posts of the thread.
So what it really comes down to is a lot of reading.
Oh and be sure to HardSPL your device BEFORE doing anything.
Also, like kyphur said read and do the hardSPL first but for me I found it's most helpful just to try some. Download a few, flash them give it a whirl and see what you like. Once you try a few you'll find options and programs you love and will start looking for roms that have what you need and more importantly what you don't like. And if you never find anything you love then start cooking. There are a lot of great wikis here to guide you step by step.
Hope this helps.
Start with Wiki first. Once you hardspl, load your first rom. You will find how easy it is and start to flash more roms like crazy. Experiment, and then you will find what you like. After flashing your first rom, you will realize how much better your new rom is compare to the stock rom.
just start off by choosing a few roms...then read about it as the chef would describe their rom...see which one fits u most...then make sure u read teh wiki and faq before u actually start ur flashing...to make sure nothing goes wrong...and then if that doesnt fit u..try another rom..but all the roms here...are better than stock for sure
I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?
MarkAtHome said:
I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?
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HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.
eenie meenie minie moe
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however, for Christ sake, please have hardspl installed.
Just pick one by reading the changelogs usually located in the first couple of posts.
P1Tater said:
eenie meenie minie moe
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Yours sounds best!
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HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.
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Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?
MarkAtHome said:
Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?
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The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.
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The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.
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Thanks, NotATreoFan. I found info on what a bootloader is, and this is the info displayed:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
What should my search criteria look like to find the HardSPL that I need to use?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use
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Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?
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Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?
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You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...
man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.
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You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...
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Will do ask you suggest. Just a thought... by doing this, will anything on my phone be affected (programs, settings, etc.)? I'm, obviously nervous about all this, and while I will follow your instructions with hardSPL, I'm not yet ready to flash a ROM.
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man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.
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Your information was very valuable. I just needed a little more detail to help calm my nerves...
Ok ive looked everywhere and im slightly confused on what im missing ive searched around and cant find a simple answer on how to go about flashing a new ROM for my fuze.
Ive got ROMeOS 1.40.1, CustomRUU, and HARDSPL
I havent got the phone in yet its supossed to be coming in today and i was wondering what do i do with the .nbh file and should i install both CustomRUU and HARDSPL or will one do the trick?
If anyone could explain this i would greatly appreciate it!
thanks, boo
7boo said:
Ok ive looked everywhere and im slightly confused on what im missing ive searched around and cant find a simple answer on how to go about flashing a new ROM for my fuze.
Ive got ROMeOS 1.40.1, CustomRUU, and HARDSPL
I havent got the phone in yet its supossed to be coming in today and i was wondering what do i do with the .nbh file and should i install both CustomRUU and HARDSPL or will one do the trick?
If anyone could explain this i would greatly appreciate it!
thanks, boo
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Check these pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_HardSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Ive been to those pages but it still fails to explain on how to flash the ROM? Or am i missing something?
Which one should i use to install the ROMeOS ROM?
Sorry for being so lost its my first PPC
7boo said:
Ive been to those pages but it still fails to explain on how to flash the ROM? Or am i missing something?
Which one should i use to install the ROMeOS ROM?
Sorry for being so lost its my first PPC
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I flashed my first rom (ever) 3 days ago, so I'm clearly not the most knowledgeable person to answer this question, but I'll give it a shot and old hands on this message board can correct me. I will warn you though, you can search the website for this answer.
The wiki page is helpful... Read it and read this gazillion posts in this forum on that topic before you do anything. Make sure you phone is sync'ed with activesync, make sure your battery is over 50% charged and run HardSPL while your phone is connected via USB. HardSPL will walk you through what you need to do via on-screen prompts.
Once that's done, make sure your NHB & custom RUU file are in the same directory on your PC. Same warnings as before (activesync completed/50% battery) except this time run the custom RUU file. I actually used RaphaelWrapper.exe which you can find on this forum and this provided the same guided prompts on installing the ROM. That should do it.
What did I miss?
I tried running HARDSPL and it sticks on 0% what am i doing wrong?
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I flashed my first rom (ever) 3 days ago, so I'm clearly not the most knowledgeable person to answer this question, but I'll give it a shot and old hands on this message board can correct me. I will warn you though, you can search the website for this answer.
The wiki page is helpful... Read it and read this gazillion posts in this forum on that topic before you do anything. Make sure you phone is sync'ed with activesync, make sure your battery is over 50% charged and run HardSPL while your phone is connected via USB. HardSPL will walk you through what you need to do via on-screen prompts.
Once that's done, make sure your NHB & custom RUU file are in the same directory on your PC. Same warnings as before (activesync completed/50% battery) except this time run the custom RUU file. I actually used RaphaelWrapper.exe which you can find on this forum and this provided the same guided prompts on installing the ROM. That should do it.
What did I miss?
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Thanks, that worked perfect explained very well! everything went smooth!
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Thanks, that worked perfect explained very well! everything went smooth!
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Glad I could Help.
i use t mob usa and already have an unlock tilt with the at&t rom (i think) it boots up showing the at&t logo and has a lot of at&t files. i want to load a new rom and have seen the rom for noobies thread but was wonder if i needed to do steps 1 - 3 or can i just download and load the rom without losing my lock and turning my phone into a brick. my friend has a dutty screen. any suggestions on a nice rom?
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i use t mob usa and already have an unlock tilt with the at&t rom (i think) it boots up showing the at&t logo and has a lot of at&t files. i want to load a new rom and have seen the rom for noobies thread but was wonder if i needed to do steps 1 - 3 or can i just download and load the rom without losing my lock and turning my phone into a brick. my friend has a dutty screen. any suggestions on a nice rom?
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If you are already using that phone with T-Mo, then security unlock, hard spl and flash away! The best thing to do here is read read read! And dont be suprised if they move your thread! You can PM me though if you have any more questions! I will help you if I can!
sorry, just so that i dont turn my phone into a brick but what you are saying is that i can just flash my rom without any other steps.
thanks for the quick response.
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sorry, just so that i dont turn my phone into a brick but what you are saying is that i can just flash my rom without any other steps.
thanks for the quick response.
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As far as what you mean by " lose my lock" I am not sure, but, you will need to CID unlock and hard-spl for sure! Do you have the AT&T Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1? I canot stress how important it is to read everything you can and be as informed as possible before you flash! I dont want to sound like I dont want to help (thats why we are here) But If you are already SIM unlocked it would still be wise to follow all the steps just to make sure you are covering all your bases, after all we do love our phones alot (often brought up by my sometimes jealous girlfriend! LOL! Read and use this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Then if you get white screen dont panic just reset and go here follow instructions then go back and do the first one....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
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As far as what you mean by " lose my lock" I am not sure, but, you will need to CID unlock and hard-spl for sure! Do you have the AT&T Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1? I canot stress how important it is to read everything you can and be as informed as possible before you flash! I dont want to sound like I dont want to help (thats why we are here) But If you are already SIM unlocked it would still be wise to follow all the steps just to make sure you are covering all your bases, after all we do love our phones alot (often brought up by my sometimes jealous girlfriend! LOL!
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i have att windows 6.0. its already unlocked and i'm using on tmobile. what is
Hard-SPL? is this a file i should see on my phone?
bigguyhawaii said:
i have att windows 6.0. its already unlocked and i'm using on tmobile. what is
Hard-SPL? is this a file i should see on my phone?
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No SPL is the bootloader on your phone when you hard SPL it keeps you from bricking your phone and allows you to flash non oem ROMs! If you Follow and read the links I just posted for you, you will be fine! I also use T-Mobile on a Tilt and I followed the steps and read alot and everything worked out perfect! I had to do the whitescreen fix, so it does work! I hope that helps!
P.S. Follow the instructions step by step, they are very important! Time consuming but worth it!
thank you very much
Please re-read the Newbies threads if you need an explanation as to what HardSPL is and how to install it and then flash a ROM. If you merely SIM unlocked to get on to T-Mobile, you will still need to CID unlock, so as a precaution you should do EVERYTHING in the newbies guide. Also, instead of just asking what HardSPL is, try following the links provided.
The community tends to be much more helpful when you have done your research and taken initative before asking for a direct hand out. This thread is better than average, but I thought I'd give you the heads up before flames come in from others.
Do everything here, all of it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Also note, the steps saying to remove your SIM and SD cards are very important.
Travito said:
Please re-read the Newbies threads if you need an explanation as to what HardSPL is and how to install it and then flash a ROM. If you merely SIM unlocked to get on to T-Mobile, you will still need to CID unlock, so as a precaution you should do EVERYTHING in the newbies guide. Also, instead of just asking what HardSPL is, try following the links provided.
The community tends to be much more helpful when you have done your research and taken initative before asking for a direct hand out. This thread is better than average, but I thought I'd give you the heads up before flames come in from others.
Do everything here, all of it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Also note, the steps saying to remove your SIM and SD cards are very important.
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thank u flashed it already.......sorry for the simple question re: hard spl.
HardSPL
Follow the tutorials. Get Hard SPL. Don't cut corners, you may brick your phone. Hard SPL will allow you to flash basically worry free.
It's great that your phone is unlocked, but that doesn't mean you can't brick it. I'd try to explain in greater detail, but the sticky posts at the top of this forum should be much better at it than I am.
Please post your questions in one of the threads already created. No need to create a new thread for random new questions.
Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.
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Hi everyone, I have recently bought a htc touch pro from polish orange provider. I have browsed dozens of topic, trying to make my windows mobile 6.1 life more satisfying, but I have few questions to ask.
1. What does Hard-Spl do ? And can I hard-spl my phone ?
2. To install advanced config, do I have to jailbreak my windows, or do anything to install it ? I don't want to end up with useless phone
3. When I try to upgrade my default opera browser to the newest build, the instlaler cannot uninstall previous version of opera, neither can I because it is not listed in add/remove programs menu. And, if I ignore the warning, I get an error in installling the newest build, but somehow I have 2 opera mobiles listed in programs menu.
Thanks in advance, r4ster.
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I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.
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I probably can't answer your questions like a pro, but I had a few experience that I can share with you.
1. I don't know what Hard-SPL do, but I guess it's like jailbreak for Windows Mobile device. If you want to flash to a new custom Rom, you need to Hard-SPL it first (don't need to do this if you flash back to the original ROM). And yes, Hard-SPL your device
2. Jailbreak is only a term to unlock your iphone... With a Win Device, you don't need to unlock anything to be able to download and install other software. This is the beautiful part of a Window mobile.
3. Definitively can't help you here... but I know that plenty of thread has been posted for this matter... just do a quick search. However, I strongly suggest (with no responsibility) you to "Hard-SPL" and "CID unlock" your device and flash it to a new ROM. It will make your phone faster and much cleaner. Also, you'll get your new Opera install.
The question now is, which ROM
I suggest NATF's v2.3, but he'll be releasing a v3 today or so. Don't flash to it right away... just flash to v2.3 first and see if v3 is stable or not by reading people posts.
Flashing is not as hard as people claim... just read and be very carefully before you do it. Don't skip any step. The first time is stressful, but after that it's just a daily burger.
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So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?
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So, I can flash any rom I want, and still have a fully working phone, after hard spl ?
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you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.
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you have to hard-spl first before Flashing any Rom. Please read those sticky carefully. I do not take any responsibility of what you're doing.
This is what I did (it works for me without any problem)
0- I backup everything I need with PPCPimbackup and outlook
1- I HARD-SPL my device
2- I CID unlock my device
3- Flash to NATF's v2.3 ROM, hard-reset my device
4- Flash new Radio (this step is optional... and to find the best one, you have to test one by one.)
5- Restore my backup
6- Re-install extra software that I need.
Like I mention earlier, these steps work for me, and there are big chance that it will work for you as well... but I do not take any responsibility. Before you Flash to any ROM, HARD-SPL your device. and after flashing your ROM, HARD-RESET it.
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Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !
r4ster said:
Ok, what if the hard spl goes wrong, is there a way to unbrick the phone ?
And thanks for all the help !
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Well, first I hope that it doesn't go wrong. And second, I'm pretty sure you can stand the temptation of flashing to a new ROM, so you'll probably going to do it very soon. But Third, So far I haven't seen any thread that someone can unbrick their Touch Pro after a bad flash (he/she didn't Hard-spl before flashing, that's why)... However, there is a way to do it with the Kaiser... so don't lose hope there.
Just READ everything carefully, you have a 99.5% successful rate if you do. I would say that the 0.5% is just your bad luck (example Computer stop working during the flash... but that's just pure bad luck and you can't blame anyone but God)
So here is the story.
I'm more of a linux user than anything else. I use Ubuntu Studio and Linux Mint on my home computer, and when I heard about the developers preview of Ubuntu Touch, I got excited.
Following the instructions in one thread here, I found it fairly simple to install Ubuntu Touch, and it looked perfect. However, it was much too early in development for use. Everything was kind of a placeholder, there was no network connectivity, phone capabilities, etc. So I went back and installed the rom I had used previously.
Here's where the problem happened. After successfully flashing the Rom to my phone and booting up into the GUI, if I clicked on anything it would reboot. Seems kinda funny, so I had tried about 5 other working roms, and they all did the same thing.
So I assume that when I installed ubuntu touch, it had actually removed a lot of the drivers for my Sensation.
HTC has been NO help at all in obtaining the correct software so I can fix my phone. Additionally, they don't even answer back my emails with comprehensible responses. I've explained this problem to them in great detail, and the extent of their responses are "if u can not find the softwares on htcdevs.com you will have to send your device in for repairs. If the damage is not covered under warranty we will let you know how much repair will cost, if you dont want repair you pay for shipping of unrepair device back to you."
Like, really?
I would like to do a fresh installation of the kernel, drivers, OS, etc so that I can use my phone again.
If you need more information don't hesitate to ask.
I hope someone has had a similar scenario, or at least know what I'm talking about and might be able to help me a bit.
What you probably need to do is flash (is it flash?) a RUU (Rom Update Utility). You can find them here.
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Hmm.. You probably can't run .exes on Linux, can you? Maybe with Wine?
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What you probably need to do is flash (is it flash?) a RUU (Rom Update Utility). You can find them here.
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Hmm.. You probably can't run .exes on Linux, can you? Maybe with Wine?
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he can extract the rom.zip from ruu and flash it from bootloader
see here for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425 (step 4)
rzr86 said:
he can extract the rom.zip from ruu and flash it from bootloader
see here for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425 (step 4)
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Oh thank you, I will check that, because I had just downloaded a RUU and booted into my windows partition, and attempted to run it. Since I can really only boot into recovery, it was only mounting my SD card, not my internal storage (i seem to recall it used to mount the device itself). So, the RUU for pyramid wouldn't run. If I can flash it, that would be best, I will have a look at that thread, thank you.
I think what happened is Ubuntu Touch stripped down android on my phone... I'm not sure if roms run as a replacement for that, or on top of it, I'm really still a beginner when it comes to phones, but usually I can manage to find the information I need to fix a problem... This is the most difficult problem I've had. Thanks again for the link.
rzr86 said:
he can extract the rom.zip from ruu and flash it from bootloader
see here for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425 (step 4)
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Thank you again. You pointed me in the right direction and I got my phone working once again. Re-rooted and s-offd and now installed CM9. Thanks again for your help.