4 Germans: The best ROM? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Hi there!
I played around now with nearly each german ROM provided in this forum and thought it would be a nice idea to share my conclusion so far:
My requirements: a rom that is
o reliable
o stable
o fast
o economical
My conclusion:
o Tejaks V5 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2348896&postcount=125)
o Radio ROM: 1.65.16.25
I really tried about a dozens radio ROMS / each german ROM and realized that a good number of them seems to suffer from the "battery drain" bug which makes the device unusable for my opinion...
My actual configuration like stated above (ROM and radio ROM) contains around 50 installed 3rd applications and uses only - tadaaa - between 1 (!!!) and 5 mW during standby (measured with battery status). Note: other ROM/Radio ROM combinations used a lot more (from 50mW up to 200mW and even more in standby!) <-- so much for battery usage / economy
For stability: I had NO call disruptions at all (not like with the newer radio ROMS) and got my GPS fixes pretty fast. The ROM never hanged so far.
Skype works! (I dont know any other german WM 6.1 so far)
Igo8 works!
I cant provide a benchmark so far - but this combination gives me the very best feeling related to speed.
No german keyboard bug!
No backlight timeout bug!
No camera bug!
So if you are german and wondering which ROM / Radio ROM you want to use - give this one a chance!
(PS: This is just my very personal impression of the avaliable ROMS... I give all my respect to ALL of the cooks - you all do very valuable work!)

Hi!
Thanks for the information. I installed Teijak's ROM yesterday - my first impression is very good (fast!). My only (little) concern is about the amount of free RAM (I guess because of the pagepool size?) - but let's wait and see.
The official HTC 6.1 ROM was really disappointing me (unstable, performance very different).

HI,
just change the PagePool Size to Dynamic with the Page Pool Patcher Tool. And you will get ~55 MByte Free of RAM. And the Device will going to be awesome fast ;-)
What i miss in this cooked Rom is a pre installed VOIP configuration and the Live Messenger.

...best german ROM?
Hello, I also search for a good, stable and fast (new) german ROM to flash first time my Kaiser...if someone else have good experience with new roms please post here your opinion, bugs and so on...
Thanks for your help,
Lou

I completely agree with licht77!
first, yes I am a nooby. But never-the-less I managed to flash the V5 yesterday night together with HardSPL 3.59. Radio is 1.65.16.25. Before this upgrade I was running the official HTC 6.1 upgrade.
I have changed the page pool to 6MB. My impression: this ROM really rocks!!! Even with this low page pool it is much better than anything I run until now.
Teijak, keep the good work running.
BTW, I am located in the Munich are and Vodafone customer...
Cheers.

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Jester aku2.2 vs. Jester aku2.3 vs. LvsW2.2 vs LvsW2.3

not sure about you guys...but I am getting confused with all these updates...so i am making a poll here to see which one u guys like best ...in terms of stability / speed / overall performance etc...
Comparing:
Jester Aku 2.2 -b1 8mb page pool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283255)
Jester Aku 2.2 -b1 12mb page pool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283255)
Jester Aku 2.3-b2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283819)
Jester Aku 2.3-b3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283868)
*new* - as of nov22,06
LvsW Aku 2.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283601)
LvsW Aku 2.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283965)
*new* - as of nov22,06
Original Qtek S200 WWE Aku2.2 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283245)
but Thumps Up for Jester and LvsW and mwiberg for bringing us all these updates!
jester aku2.3
anyone have any info on this, links, what rom its based on etc.
please vote!
vote & review
cheguevara said:
please vote!
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I think besides a vote, a mini-review will be helpful.
I'll start with what I have tried:
1) RUU_Prophet_G3_2151327_AKU23_023021_P16MB_PDAMobiz_v2307 (not in this list)
Plenty of extra software. Some useful, some not. A matter of individual preference. Speed overclocked by default, but can easily be reverted. Pretty stable, a minor glitch when opening word files, pword opens and closes. Another tap would then open the file. (could be due to my device and not the ROM itself). Speed is OK, can't really say it's faster than the official 2.15 ROM. My major dislike is the program memory. After installing all my apps such as calligrapher & voice command, I'm left with 14+MB after a soft reset. After opening up more and ore applications, it will go down to 3-4MB very quickly and some of the progs will automatically close. In comparison, this was not so severe when I had the official 2.15 ROM.
2) RUU-Prophet-G3-AKU2.2-2.20-2.47.21-Jester-b1
New OS. Feels faster than the PDAMobiz ROM even though this is standard 12MB pagepool. No extra software. Stable. No issues so far, but I've only been using it for several days now.
Next to try: LvsW Edition: RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721 (AKU2.3)
If anyone like to compile their reviews in this thread, it'll definitely help lots of people.
You should test all of them if you want to get relaiable results. Otherwise people will only choose the ROM they are currently using, whitout ever touching they other ROM's
For this you should create some kind of performance test procedure.
If you can make this reliaable then you might use it as a standard in the PPC world Since I havn't seen any test procedure to test performance of different ROM's.
I've seen benchmark results, but they were compared to WM2003 devices. So you should have one made just for OMap processors. Then you also have the issue between the results and "daily use", like menu speed etc.
Maybe we can set up some kind of procedure here on XDA DEVELOPERS?
Yes i think a benchmark would be excellent...
So-so
I've been confident over the years to rom-cooking and tweaking devices (long live my old hima) but with so many bugs in the Prophet's roms, even the official ones! it's hard to reccommend actually those "beta" versions, each with it's own set of bugs.
Actually we are forced to choose from the set of bugs you can live with! USB not charging, BT Active Sync profile dissapearing, Slooowww performance, undocumented Registry limits, (Contast size for instance) and so on.
So my vote was on the "official" Qtek rom, at least until I can cook my own ROM and have control over what I drop on my Prophet.
Anyway, impressive work from jesterz, lvsw, the pdamobiz guys and the rest of you for giving us all those roms to try and enjoy tweaking, it's somewhat adictive!
i go test lvsw 2.3 it's very good ?
uppppppppppppppppppp
foufou55 said:
i go test lvsw 2.3 it's very good ?
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I voted for LvSW 2.3, but I'm actually running one of his earlier versions, with the old RadioRom and ExtRom. Things are pretty stable, if slow. I have a G3 version.
Would it be worth my while to upgrade to the current LVSW 2.3.1? Is there a big radio improvement from 2.19 to 2.47.21? Will there be an upgrade to 2.3.1 to fix the frozen input method problem?
Alan

Best WM6 Rom so far!

Hello,
Ok, Im completely confused by now!!! What is the best wm6 room avaiable? Is it based on a final wm6 rom or still beta? Is it usable, does it work? what are the issues?
thanks,
Joao Oliveira.
Joao Oliveira said:
Hello,
Ok, Im completely confused by now!!! What is the best wm6 room avaiable? Is it based on a final wm6 rom or still beta? Is it usable, does it work? what are the issues?
thanks,
Joao Oliveira.
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I think the most stable WM6 rom for Prophet is "Smart1"'s CLEAR rom.
But I can sync with my outlook, I have upgraded to Activesync 4.5 though.
Do I need to upgrade to activesync 4.5 English version? Because I am using Chinese one.
Since at the moment that I have tried there is none that works completely well, they usually have mistakes with the BT, I have returned to WM5 and have put the rom of ASERG AKU3.3 v.12, very good and stable
tiggerbcn said:
Since at the moment that I have tried there is none that works completely well, they usually have mistakes with the BT, I have returned to WM5 and have put the rom of ASERG AKU3.3 v.12, very good and stable
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Same here.. ..a friend of mine has the Most Beautiful ROM running on his Wizard right now. It seems to me that's the best WM6.0 ROM out there at the moment. Disappearing SMS problems are solved etc.
Would be great to see this ROM running on the Prophet
But it should solve:
- IR problems
- Include the charge fix
- SMS storing problem
- BT pairing history
We just have to wait for a willingly and smart Prophet user who can give this a try
So let me get this straight:
1. ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is currently better than any WM6 ROM currently in this forum (for a Prophet) ??
2. Can someone please show us images comparing WM6 ROMs and AKU ROMs (how they look like) ? please...
thanks
Palpoule said:
So let me get this straight:
1. ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is currently better than any WM6 ROM currently in this forum (for a Prophet) ??
2. Can someone please show us images comparing WM6 ROMs and AKU ROMs (how they look like) ? please...
thanks
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1. For the Prophet, yes.
2. Look HERE for info about the different AKU's.
And take a look HERE for info about WM6.0.
thx mccune!
i have looked at the differences... it seems that AKU is more stable and everything (since i have installed smart1's WM6 ROM and there are a few unresolved bugs...)
but anyways, i like WM6's appearence way better... and this is what matters more for me hehe
but... im still a bit confused about something... what exactly is AKU ? i mean ... does it have anything to do with microsoft? or is it simply another OS in competition with microsoft's WM ? :S
i can see the widows logo in the AKU's pics... thats y im confused
in other words: Why are there AKU and WM6 roms in this forum ? :S whats the difference ?
thx in advance
It says it all in the link he gave you
"Review of update packs (AKU) for Windows Mobile 5.0""
Looks like AKU is a set of upgrades which Microsoft release, maybe like "service pack" for XP. These include patches and tweaks for the OS.
SO ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is the old version of Windows Mobile, (WM2005) but with latest updates from Microsoft installed.
Ahh okayzzz...
so AKU is like WM5 SP# and WM6 is... well, WM6
thx
ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 Issues
Recently loaded this rom on my Prophet multiple issues with Rom, Calender is in Russian or something, unit runs really slow, drains batt fast, unable to select notifications from Voice msg and be connected directly to voice mail, running of programs is delayed or crashed.
Know this is the most recent one out there just not sure if it fully functional.
dpast said:
Recently loaded this rom on my Prophet multiple issues with Rom, Calender is in Russian or something, unit runs really slow, drains batt fast, unable to select notifications from Voice msg and be connected directly to voice mail, running of programs is delayed or crashed.
Know this is the most recent one out there just not sure if it fully functional.
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Why are you so negative about this ROM?
- Calender is in Russian -> Change your region settings
- unit runs really slow -> Never heard off such problem
- drains batt fast -> Maybe your device has been OC-ed using BatteryStatus?
- Other point I don't use, so no comment.
I've tried almost every ROM available for the Prophet and I must say this is one of the best!
To me the best WM6 Rom is the smart1 clear... but it's just a opinion.
Rom Issues
The phone has no Batt issues, untill loaded this rom batt at time runs hot, turning the unit off is inpossible w/out taking the Batt out - the shut down screen only restarts the unit or puts in in standby, attaching the unit w/ a bluetooth - if the unit is actually restarted or shut off does not recall the prev settings - have to re-attach the unit as a new item, Wireless - will not keep WEp keys stored in system, again if re-start unit must re-activate the whole sys & keys, MS Messenger will not log on at not point even re-starting the unit will not work & finally when the rom is initially run not all the programs install have to manually go back in to install application (ex. batt tester, batt charge notification on desktop are some f/ example). To actually speed up the system needed to re-run the rom update 3X not the best thing to have to do. Additional suggestion rom could use a PDF initial install prog. instead of having to install after rom run & set up.
My present rom is aserg's 3.12
Hi guys, I still think that Aserg's 3.12 rom is the best. However, I am waiting too for a good and (more) stable WM6 rom to use the new features. Wm6 stiil has too many problems to fix e.g. not working IR , etc.
I include 3 pics of my current rom with 2 versions of my today screen. Isn't it what someone asked in this thread? If anyone knows a better WM6 rom, please let me know.

Original vs Cooked ROMs

A few days ago I posted something on L26 V5 Diamond thread. It was either a very broad subject or a very naive one that nobody cared to write something in reply. Maybe I shouldn't have posted there.
Now I bring the subject here in a separate thread hoping that we would all share our views and experiences with regard to Original/Official WM6.1 ROMs vs the cooked ones. I already apologize if the subject doesn't deserve a thread and leave it to mods to decide whether the thread should remain or be closed.
Here's what I'd posted there:
So far as bugs are concerned, who's the culprit : build 19588.1.1.4 ? or L26_K_D_V5 ??
It seems an error is repeating so often & so regularly that it's becoming a systematic error. What am I talking about?
Well, we usually get so much focused on L26_XXX ROM or Dutty's_XXX ROM ...etc. that we totoally forget about the "Original/Official" ROMs these cooked ones are based on.
Somewhere in the devine XDA text , God once said :
Flash an "original/official" ROM / HR / flash the XXX cooked ROM / HR
The above is now a universally accepted verdict among us frequent ROM flashers. But how many of us do stay upon the "Original/Official" ROM - whether HTC or AT&T ...etc - for 10 minutes (or 10 seconds for that matter !!) ??
We flash the "Original/Official" ROM (whatever version it is - though , we generally tend to flash the Latest Original/Official one) only for the sake of the above said verdict and certainly not to see how that original ROM works on our devices. Understandably, this happens because we're in a hurry to flash the beautiful cooked ones.
What is my point?
How many of the rulings we pass (and the bugs we report) on L26_K_D_V5 have been tested (over a period of a week or so) upon the "Original/Offical" ROM the V5 is based upon (i.e. CE 5.2.19212 Build 19588.1.1.4) ?
Perhaps it's time that someone with an authoritative knowledge of ROMs takes the list of reported bugs/issues of V5, flashes the Build 19588.1.1.4 , rests upon it for a while , and sees if these are native issues of the "Original/Official" ROM or Leo's V5.
Does it sound too idiotic and naive? Maybe. But at least I can claim that I have not seen such thorough comparison between these two specific ROMs anywhere in the forum. Of course, the wise redbandana (God bless him) usually brings us news of (and introduces to us) new Original/Official Kaiser ROMs in separate threads. But what I mean is thorough comparison between these two specific Original/Official and Cooked ROMs.
Cheers
i see your knoweldge and believe that you are on to something, i don't remember what ROM i was on cause i have flashed almost all of them, but when i went to the official of the same build a lot of the same errors were being seen. most times as long as the chef knows of these problems in the official rom they try to cook the fixes into their version but it is not easy to see every bug in a rom by yourself.
tubaking182 said:
i see your knoweldge and believe that you are on to something, i don't remember what ROM i was on cause i have flashed almost all of them, but when i went to the official of the same build a lot of the same errors were being seen. most times as long as the chef knows of these problems in the official rom they try to cook the fixes into their version but it is not easy to see every bug in a rom by yourself.
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the fact is , up in the heaven , all mods/chefs/very_senior_members know all about these things. My point was to open up a window for us mortals down here to have a clearer idea about what we see in (and pass judgements on) cooked roms.
The undeniable truth is that each chef cooks his rom on a specific original version/build and a clearer knowledge of the original built in each case (and a comparison between the two) allows us mortals to have a better understanding of what the chef has actually done in his rom.
As a very minor and silly example, while in L29 V5 Diamond I am struggling to to see why the "disconnect" button in GPRS connectivity bubble is missing, it would be helpful to know whether this is the "default" option of the original built or is it Leo's - and if it is Leo's, what are the merits/faults of his choice.
You may ask why I don't do such thorough survey myself ? Well, to be honest, I would really die to have such extensive knowledge and expertise. But the fact is, some people are savvys and gurus and some are not. It takes me a lifetime to be as knowledgeable as Dutty or Leo or Alex ...etc. I just hope that in here each of us can bring just a little piece of his/her info to share with others on the subject of this comparison.
Well, I've been using HTC original ROMs for a long time, so here's my report:
Original HTC WM 6.0:
- Great radio (1.27.12.17), GPS fix fast, good battery life
- Skype works
- Cleartype works OK on landscape
- No missing G icon or disconnect button when you click the connection icon
- Feels fast enough (a lot of RAM free)
Original HTC WM 6.1 released on may
- Less than 60 MB RAM available on boot
- Bad radio (1.65.16.25), problems connecting to WiFi with WEP enabled, slow GPS fix
- Skype does not work
- Cleartype does not work correctly on landscape
- Does not feel faster, needs new SPL to avoid random freezes
- No missing icons / apps
Original HTC 3.02
- My favourite unless Nothrills comes up with something better
- Excelent radio (1.58.26.20), best GPS and WiFi
- Skype does not work
- Landscape mode works OK
- Camera can be easily patched or updated to 5.04
All of them come with Office and Onenote, Windows Live, and usual utilities
All of them can be tweaked with KaiserTweak or AdvancedConfig and you get a pretty much fast and estable ROM that just works.
No screen redraw problems, no blank screens, no missing buttons, no missing apps...
vcespon said:
Well, I've been using HTC original ROMs for a long time, so here's my report:
Original HTC WM 6.1 released on may
- Less than 60 MB RAM available on boot
- Bad radio (1.65.16.25), problems connecting to WiFi with WEP enabled, slow GPS fix
- Skype does not work
- Cleartype does not work correctly on landscape
- Does not feel faster, needs new SPL to avoid random freezes
- No missing icons / apps
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It's amazing that while reading your report on Original HTC WM6.1 , I suddenly felt as if I was reading the threads of some of the new cooked kasier roms! Everything you said (and a lot not mentioned here) are exactly the same problems reported in those threads over and over again.
So next time when one reports in , for example, Dutty's new rom thread that : "Skype is not working" , or "the cleartype in landscape bug" he should know that these are exactly the same issues in the original 6.1 and has nothign to do with Dutty's rom.
I agree with you so much. Amazingly to Cook a rom is a few files added here, a few files deleted. Put in what you want, make a few tweaks to the registry and Whaaa Laaa.
AMazingly, WM6.1 has a lot of bugs. Probably not what Microsoft expected when they developed the software. The landscape issues I try to tell everyone over and over it has nothing to do with what the Cook did, its a WM6.1 problem.
I do not use skype but I am assuming the same thing. I think in this thread, we should add the most common problems that we have so we can start looking into them more deeply.
Obviously the cooks inherit the bugs of the ROMs they use as base.
HTC finally released an official WM 6.1 ROM for the Kaiser, with "improved graphics" but at a cost.
- Bad radio. 1.65 radios are not better than 1.27 or 1.58. Ask anyone about GPS fix or battery.
- They changed a display routine so it's faster, but they screwed cleartype on landscape mode, that was working on previous HTC ROMs
- A lot less memory available, and I do not see a big speed increase in return
- The ROM feels heavier than previous one, the screen switches in one move, but the total time to do the switch is longer than previous ROMs
- Skype does not work, it was working on WM 6.0
Some of these bugs have been corrected by cooks when adding files from other builds. HyperDragon III works OK on landscape, ROMs from L26 and Dutty work with Skype... But they introduce other bugs like the missing G icon, or disconnect button.
I hope they interchange their findings so we finally have a ROM where everything works. I don't care if it gets 1432 or 1512 points on some benchmark, if HSDPA does not work, or the device soft-resets while playing MP3, then I'm not going to use that.
Reading all of this makes me wanna downgrade to 6.0. Until we have a working Android, that is...
Just wanna share with you as I am using an official ROM for a long time now.
Original ROMs are the best as they have every thing working. Yes everything, sometimes a minor bugs are annoying like I was unable to send a vcard as sms using one of the super ROMs.
I think the only point is tweaking. If we tweak the original ROM they will perform as good as the cooked one.
As much as the chefs change in ROM as much as we get bugs. My opinion is chefs should concentrate on main issues and always release lite versions leaving options for users.
I have to admit that I have learnt a lot from cooked ROMs which helped me to tune the original ROM to my best.
msharaf said:
Just wanna share with you as I am using an official ROM for a long time now.
Original ROMs are the best as they have every thing working. Yes everything, sometimes a minor bugs are annoying like I was unable to send a vcard as sms using one of the super ROMs.
I think the only point is tweaking. If we tweak the original ROM they will perform as good as the cooked one.
As much as the chefs change in ROM as much as we get bugs. My opinion is chefs should concentrate on main issues and always release lite versions leaving options for users.
I have to admit that I have learnt a lot from cooked ROMs which helped me to tune the original ROM to my best.
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Yeah, that's what I have suggested yesterday but met the offence only.
Well, different people, different opinions.
ryncppr said:
I think in this thread, we should add the most common problems that we have so we can start looking into them more deeply.
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ryncppr, apart from the need to learn more about Original roms, i also came across another strange fact that is widely ignored.
Does anyone care "what" original rom to flash before flashing his desired cooked one? I read many of the threads ; it seems that nobody does pay any attention to this matter. BUT the type of Original rom we flash before flashing the cooked one (depending on our geographical location and the make of our phones), DO CERTAINLY COUNT A LOT.
This is what I noticed and just posted on Dutty's V1 thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271&page=90
Technically, I don't understand why this happens (perhaps you as a good chef could explain this matter in technical terms) , but I have no doubt now that it is crucially important what original rom we flash first.
Bardia Garsha said:
ryncppr, apart from the need to learn more about Original roms, i also came across another strange fact that is widely ignored.
Does anyone care "what" original rom to flash before flashing his desired cooked one? I read many of the threads ; it seems that nobody does pay any attention to this matter. BUT the type of Original rom we flash before flashing the cooked one (depending on our geographical location and the make of our phones), DO CERTAINLY COUNT A LOT.
This is what I noticed and just posted on Dutty's V1 thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271&page=90
Technically, I don't understand why this happens (perhaps you as a good chef could explain this matter in technical terms) , but I have no doubt now that it is crucially important what original rom we flash first.
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A big problem is that people do not believe you need to hard reset after you flash a ROM. You do. THe process that WM has built in only clears the memory and storage files, leading to useless junk that gets left behind.
I used to think if I flashed a ROM it was completely getting rid of the last rom, which has found not to be the truth. Though a clearing system file is now shown on the screen, it is not truly getting rid of all the old files, hence the problems with putting ROM over ROM.
bad practice
I know it's a bad practice to have, but I very rarely hard reset my phone after a flash, and I have to admit I never flash the originals back to my phonebefore flashing. once in a great while I hit a weird glitch that I can't seem to find a solution for, and so I hard reset to fix it. I guess part of it is that i'm so impatient that I can't stand to wait a few extra minutes. I check the site anytime i'm not working and if there is a new rom available I've downloaded and flashed before looking through the bugs found. I guess i'm gonna start going to originals first and hard reset every time, now to help on that, is there a way that we know of that will automatically do the hard reset one time right after a flash? I know UC wouldn't work cause it runs after the hard reset/flash so it would loop. if we could cook the rom to auto reset once and one time only it would help out those that ocasionally "forget."
on a side note, this was typed through my phone so sorry for any spelling errors there might be and thank you ryncppr for a great rom.
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I know it's a bad practice to have, but I very rarely hard reset my phone after a flash
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The truth is you are a big boy and can handle the giltches/issues. Just take a look at hundreds of posts out there in which people complain and report about some of the most unthinkable issues (e.g. "my phone resets itself every 5 minutes" (Jesus Christ) !! or "when I push the call button my phone starts media player"!! perhaps soon we should expect posts that will read: "after disconnecting the bluetooth headset, our washing mashing stopped working" !
I know that for example Dutty is very serious on his belief on flashing original/HR/cooked/HR every single time one wants to flash a rom - and for god's sake this man really knows what he's talking about.
Sometimes very bizarre things happen when one ignores the above must-do process.
However, my main object here was to invite people to share their bits of info on what a specific original rom does (or might do) to our devices when it's flashed prior to a specific custom rom , and why.
and btw, your spellign is brilliant.
original HTC Tytn II ROM
Hello, since I`ve updates my HTC Tytn II I have too much problems with my internet connection, wifi, gps,...so I would like to upgrade to the previous Version WM 6.0 Prof. (original, german).
Have someone a linke where I could find original (geman) ROMs?
Thanks for your help,
Lou
loubega said:
Hello, since I`ve updates my HTC Tytn II I have too much problems with my internet connection, wifi, gps,...so I would like to upgrade to the previous Version WM 6.0 Prof. (original, german).
Have someone a linke where I could find original (geman) ROMs?
Thanks for your help,
Lou
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I'm afraid your post has nothing to do with this thread - just wonder why u posted this here !
anyway, you can find the original/official kaiser roms here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
HTC & AT&T do different things
Ok, in oder to see the effects of different original/official roms we flash before the custom rom, i did the following and noticed an obvious difference:
1) flashed AT&T offiical WM6.1 CE 3.14.502.1 (built 19209) and then L26 V5
- flashed the same official AT&T and then Dutty's Diamond V1
in both cases, both L26 and Dutty's roms were not functioning optimal on my device. had to deal with many issues (from BT to GPRS to connectivity ...etc. as well as general responsiveness of the device)
2) flashed HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0 and then L26 V5
- flashed the same original HTC and then Dutty's Diamond V1
in both cases , both L26 and Dutty's roms were functioning a lot better on the device. almost %90 of the previous issues were gone.
in both 1) & 2) I used radio 1.65.16.25 and observed strictly the same procedure (usb flashing, same HR, no SD card inserted, no 3rd party app installed ...etc.)
what's going on? i'm now more confident that the type/version of the original or official rom we flash prior to the custom rom affects the custom rom and its behavior on our devices hugely.
this is still widely igonored by the chefs as i've never heard them on their threads mentioning/suggesting what original/offiical rom should be flashed prior to flashing their cooked roms.
I think alot of what you are trying to accomplish here was discussed previously. I have always been a proponent of trying to use Original ROMs in order to better understand what is "original" vs what is cooked and doing all tweaks by myself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389519
Just stumble upon this. I think this one is quite insightful. But yet we have only Cooked ROM threads, reviews, and comments. Not on Stock ROM... once a while though *wonder why.. LoL*
Maybe we should encourage people who use stock ROM to start a thread for their own stock ROM version and make some reviews among the users? Not so good idea, but not so bad either.
I mean this thread is not only to know what work in 6.1 and what doesn't, right?
And for the current moment maybe we could have common concensus for responding to 'bizarre problems after flashing ROM xx.. bla.. bla bla' with : reflash stock rom -> hard reset -> reflash cooked rom -> hard reset -> still have problems?
Just stumble upon this. I think this one is quite insightful. But yet we have only Cooked ROM threads, reviews, and comments. Not on Stock ROM... once a while though *wonder why.. LoL*
Maybe we should encourage people who use stock ROM to start a thread for their own stock ROM version and make some reviews among the users? Not so good idea, but not so bad either.
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Schizo, im gonna do it in few days! I'm working on cooked first. But i have in plans to test Stock ROMs...

Overview of the many roms created here and a vote for the best rom for the Universal

Guys there are a lot of roms created by the genious minds of rom cooks here. id like everyone to share there view of the roms overview and a vote for the best rom cooked for the Universal. Sounds fun huh!
my list (sorry if I missed anyone)
ROM really depends on your needs . If the cook has put in the apps you use, go for his rom. Otherwise it takes up more space adding your own apps - or alternatively go for rDosti/B&L vanilla and add all your own.
The free memory is important to me (being a 64MB Uni owner!!), and I have recorded the free memory on a clean install with no SD card in.
I want working camera, TCMD TCPMP and Route66N7 to work properly (which likes its memory!). I don't use wkTask, but prefer QuickMenu or currently playing with Battery Status (but after making own theme with weather, this took up too much program memory, and although looked nice I decided that I needed functional and not eye candy!). Fast is also good . I also need my Blade BT headset to work with my BT GRPS mouse.
My observations (in no particular order):
Tomal 7.7 OS 19900 (19900'2), 27.8 MB free (program memory) here
-this is stable and has all apps I like *my favourite* (also has flash-disk)
EFN 2.4 OS 19588 (19900'3), 27.4 MB free here
-seems stable, need to add few apps (eg, TCMD, TCPMP), but has VC - keeping my eye on this! (more of want than need as I don't get 3G at home!)
rDosti 9 OS 19188 (19174), >33.9 MB free here
-seems stable, vanilla so need to add all apps you want (incl. Word, Excel, .NET etc). Built on my old favourite ROM from thingonaspring (below) - but with same problem. Can't get Blade (BT headset) to work
PDAVIET 2.61 OS 19949, 28.6 MB free here
-hangs occasionally, couldn't change alarms
-not a rom cooker on this forum, so feedback is useless from here!
Mo3ulla 1.5 OS 19588, 26.97 MB free here
-seems stable, but was disappointed with free program mem
Thingonaspring 41.28 OS 19188 (19174), 29.8 MB free here
-stable, excellent free memory, settings/buttons had no lock or backlight, some components getting old (TCMD) - has real VGA (if you like that sort of thing!)
-seems to have stopped cooking any more universal rom's - anyone heard from thing?
JWRights here
-no information, except was slow in dealing my cards in Patiences game
Beasty&Laurentius 2.08.01 Business here
-they also have newer test version and older FullFlavour/Vanilla versions, and were my favorite cookers
-beasty still pops back to help, and may produce newer rom, but has gone on to some wierd htc machine​Advice: pick your ROM(s), and help the cookers sort out bugs & features by encouraging them - and they can use this information with others too.
Hope this helps someone
great
thanks jonmorgan for your effort and views. come on guys more overviews will help our good rom cookers to improve their cooking by giving out your reviews of their great and effortfull work..
My vote goes for....
Ranju´s v7.6 & v7.7 definetly!
Cheers!
Ranju's 7.6 here!
Using Tomals 7.7 I must say, eaven after testing some others...
This is the best.
Its stable, fast, i love flashdisk and storage space
for this poll i Vote for Tomal/Ranju 7.7
JonMorgan said:
ROM really depends on your needs . If the cook has put in the apps you use, go for his rom. Otherwise it takes up more space adding your own apps - or alternatively go for rDosti/B&L vanilla and add all your own.
The free memory is important to me (being a 64MB Uni owner!!), and I have recorded the free memory on a clean install with no SD card in.
I want working camera, TCMD TCPMP and Route66N7 to work properly (which likes its memory!). I don't use wkTask, but prefer QuickMenu or currently playing with Battery Status (but after making own theme with weather, this took up too much program memory, and although looked nice I decided that I needed functional and not eye candy!). Fast is also good . I also need my Blade BT headset to work with my BT GRPS mouse.
My observations (in no particular order):
rDosti 9 OS 19188 (19174), >33.9MB free here
-seems stable, vanilla so need to add all apps you want (incl. Word, Excel, .NET etc). Built on my old favourite ROM from thingonaspring (below) - but with same problem. Can't get Blade (BT headset) to work
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--- Did you try 9.1 (it has extra support for BT mouse and other BT devices. I would suggest trying that and then letting me know if it doesnt work with your Blade... I believe 9.1 should fix that (the main reason i released it).
Regards
great replies guys
man you guys are great keep on helping our friends, the genius rom cookers for their hard work thank you cookers without you all we could never make the universal the way it is today. thanks all guys for their overviews.
Ranju´s v7.6 & v7.7 definetly!
Ranju/Tomal is the best!!!
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Mo3ulla 1.5 OS 19588, 23.2MB free here
-seems stable, but was disappointed with free program mem
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That's one of the fastest roms or may be the FASTEST rom ever created for the Uni, and no, the free program memory after reboot is 26-27+ MB with some programs in start up on 64 MB Universal! You guys don't write some stuff before test it
Greets,
Win_XP said:
That's one of the fastest roms or may be the FASTEST rom ever created for the Uni, and no, the free program memory after reboot is 26-27+ MB with some programs in start up on 64 MB Universal! You guys don't write some stuff before test it
Greets,
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Yes, I can also confirm this rom is THE FASTEST so far for universal, it is very stable and was the only rom that did not give me phone hang-ups, but because it is so vanilla I had a few issues getting some parts of phone to work...so had to switch back to 7.7 rom
Win_XP said:
That's one of the fastest roms or may be the FASTEST rom ever created for the Uni, and no, the free program memory after reboot is 26-27+ MB with some programs in start up on 64 MB Universal! You guys don't write some stuff before test it
Greets,
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Sorry, I did test it. I have now re-flashed and can report it to be 26.97 (I have edited my post).
This is strange - the total is only 46.27, where-as other ROM flashers are getting their totals much higher. I wonder if Mo3ulla got this higher, the free program memory would also go up.
I don't know how to test speed, except if my card game goes slow
Tomal is the best
I also have flashed tomal ranju's 7.7 rom and its really col and stable but what i noticed is it drains my battery very much is this normal or have i done something wrong?
anyways ranju 7.7 is the best for me.
and guys keep up the great work
Well, Ran's 7.7 is the one I like the most now as he provides me the apps I need. No wasting time to install , just up rom and use. I'm looking forward to the official release of version 8.0 from Tomal. Stable, no irritating problems though there're small problems with my EXEC, not sure whether those happen to other universals.
Cheers!
wm5
im going back to the wm5 aku3.5
my prblem is solved in sdhc driver. damn it it was sdbus.dll and sdmemory.dll after all.
ryt now im sticking on video call my uni is lame w/o it.
for cooked ROM probably ranju 7.7
but i got all apps for wm6 the contol panel thing so i used rdosti clean ROM v5-v10
ill wait rdosti v15 it could be 64mb free of RAM i think. joke
nice looking:
pamquang diamond rom
cons: freezes, call slow response. sometimes shutdown automatically..
efn video call- it didnt work on mine
rdosti - lots of memory free but apps its up to you spot wer the good version is because my opera 9.5 build 405 not run on v9.1..
hey anybody cud share a files/hacks to run opera 9.5 on wm5.
Pdaviet 2.61 Os 19949
PDAVIET 2.61 OS 19949, 28.6 MB free here
Try it you ll love it
salehjs said:
PDAVIET 2.61 OS 19949, 28.6 MB free here
Try it you ll love it
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That's the main point! Most people didn't try all ROMs and therefore their oppinion isn't accurate...
I've tried all, except rDosti v10 and my favorite are rDosti v9.1 (I don't use because we can't install VCall out cab) (probably the fastest) and PDAVIET 2.61 OS 19949 (the 2nd fastest ROM)!
PS: I don't have problems to set the alarm on PDAVIET's ROM!
Ranju 7.7 .......
Tried Darkforce, mu3ulla and rDosti.
rDosti is my favourite, because
- his ongoing support
- quick problem solving with new ROM
- a lot of free program memory
Only things I miss at the moment:
- Flash disk (where is it? What is it?)
- good BT support (Please leave BT enabled when connection to my GPS!)
But, hey, he's posting a new ROM every day, so maybe next week?

Cotulla 3.03 or 3.04

Wich one is better ? More stable ? I read some comments here and there, spend some time googling it, and lots of ppl says that 3.03 version is more stable and got more functionality, is that true ?. Anyway can i run wm6 applications and games on that cotulla rom ? I mean is this rom changes a lot, or this is just some kind of visulization ?
I dunno if the 3.03 is more or less stable then the 3.04, as I have used them bothe for too litle time now to make a comparison. But what I can say is that these ROM's change a lot. I use a couple of WM5/6 only programs on these and all that I tryed do in fact run perfectly, on bothe ROM's. I dunno if that is true for all WM6 software around, but for those I use these ROM's worked like I charm!
1- After a lot practical experince with both 3.03 and 3.04, I can say definitely 3.03 is more stable in various ways. If you'll introduce your device with WM6.1 for the first time, I advice you to choose 3.03, you won't regret it. Anyway, there isn't much differences between them, they are both the same ROMs but the latter one has some ins and outs from the first one (3.03).
2- Yes, after upgrading to Cotulla's 3.03 ROM, you will be able to use any application suitable for WM6.1 (of course usage of some programs can depend on other extra applications such as macromedia, windows frame work etc). Since it's not theme or visualisation, it's pure and real WM6.1.
in reality there big differences between 3.03 and 3.04...
about the best version... everybody have own opinion.
but I will suggest u to install the last one, if u want help me with project
i like 3.04 better.
it seems faster and is over-clockable. (with extra cooling)
blue tooth is better (not turning off as much)
i still run 3.03 on my second xda, and must reset it each and every day. (problems vary but reset and it goes away)
the sound quality is an issue with all three roms. it may have something to do with the radio rom. (1.12)
also have issue with mms/data or internet. can not use wap.
thank you all
3.03 has camera support, 3.04 no..

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